RuneScape:Chat/Logs/29 November 2012

 23:15 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Defleshed sounds like they lost their flesh, the Unfleshed as if they never had it to start with 23:15 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; yes i cannot decide 23:15 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; which sounds more intimidating 23:15 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; flay flay flay &gt;:O 23:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; because it's a little esoteric but still sounds formidable 23:16 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; mm i dont like that 23:16 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; doesnt sound as good 23:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; what does Monkey Madness have to do with this?! 23:17 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; what? 23:17 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; *mm* i dont like that 23:19 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Ok I swear I'm going in circles with this quest 23:20 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Aside from Traiborn, Ellaron and Seridor, who do I have to speak to about the danger to the tower? 23:23 -!- XAsmir has joined Special:Chat 23:23 &lt;XAsmir&gt; hey guys im back 23:23 &lt;Hairr&gt; Hello 23:23 &lt;XAsmir&gt; crystal bow degrades after all 23:24 &lt;XAsmir&gt; but update is that it doesnt become weaker 23:24 &lt;XAsmir&gt; stats stay the same 23:24 &lt;XAsmir&gt; ill test crystal shield tomroow toa 23:24 -!- XAsmir has left Special:Chat. 23:28 &lt;BrenRS&gt; First tower robes 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; Cook Me Plox 23:29 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Wizards' Tower basement key 23:29 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; hi 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ((1/3) * (3/6))/(1/6) 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; 1.0 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ((1/4) * (4/7))/(1/7) 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; 1.0 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; am I messing up? o.o 23:30 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; for the bayesian classifier? 23:30 &lt;Hairr&gt; Ya 23:31 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; spellwisp 23:32 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; so there are 6 total pages, 3 spam pages and 1 page where your word is used? 23:32 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; if the one page where your word is used is a spam page, it'll return 1, yes 23:33 &lt;Hairr&gt; But what about the 2nd time, how come it still returned one even though it appeared to have more pages without the word 23:34 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; the second one is saying that you have 7 pages, 4 of which are spam, and there is one page that uses your word, and that is a spam page 23:34 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; regardless of how many pages there are total or how many spam pages there are, if that word is the only thing you're parsing and it's only used on a spam page, it'll return as 1 23:34 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; you're doing it right but maybe not understand what's going on behind it 23:34 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; understanding* 23:35 &lt;Hairr&gt; So there could be 10000 pages in the data and only 1 instance of the word "penis", but if it matches to the word, the word is immediately classified as a spam word? 23:35 &lt;SovietHero&gt; :D (wc) 68 23:36 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; yeah 23:36 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; which is why I suggested a minimum threshold for a number of uses of a word before you use it in your calculation 23:36 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; or weighting it by the number of uses 23:36 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; but that will usually get drowned out when you're calculating the spam value for an entire thing of text, because that's only one word 23:37 &lt;Hairr&gt; So could I do something like: 23:37 &lt;Hairr&gt; have a bad page file; have a good page file; look for the uses in both files 23:37 &lt;Hairr&gt; return = bad_found/(bad_found + good_found) ? 23:38 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; uhh, that's one way of doing it 23:38 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; It seems like the way most people do it is by looking at individual files 23:38 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Wait, no, that doesn't make much sense 23:39 &lt;Hairr&gt; that equation thing? 23:39 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; yeah 23:39 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; you're already doing that calculation by looking at the number of pages that use the word and whether they're good or bad 23:40 &lt;Michagogo&gt; Hairr: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=((1%2f4)+*+(4%2f7))%2f(1%2f7) 23:40 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; bad_found/(bad_found + good_found) would be sort of meaningless, I think 23:40 &lt;Michagogo&gt; That calculation does indeed come out to 1 23:40 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Mich, it's not the number he's worried about 23:40 &lt;Michagogo&gt; Oh 23:40 &lt;Hairr&gt; if I had 3 instances of "penis" in the bad file and 1 instance of "penis" in the good file 23:40 &lt;Hairr&gt; 3/(3 + 1) 23:40 &lt;Hairr&gt; ~ 75% chance it's spam 23:40 &lt;Hairr&gt; of course the data would be much larger tho 23:40 -!- Bander147 has joined Special:Chat 23:41 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Yeah 23:41 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; I doubt 1 in 4 penises are legit 23:41 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; no, you're not combining all the files 23:41 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; well said, EpicPancakes 23:41 &lt;Bander147&gt; elluu 23:41 &lt;Hairr&gt; I know 23:41 &lt;Hairr&gt; good file and bad file 23:41 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; you're looking at how many pages use penis, not how many times penis is used overall 23:42 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; penis is used a lot. 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Tell me about it 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; BA DUM TSH 23:42 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; penis penis penis 23:42 &lt;IN008&gt; i wish i didnt join chat now. 23:42 &lt;Bander147&gt; what the f*** are u guys talking about 23:42 &lt;BrenRS&gt; Bren's penis 23:42 &lt;Bander147&gt; lol 23:42 &lt;IN008&gt; good job guys.. 23:42 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; penis... duh 23:42 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Bander, Naive bayes classifiers 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Everyone uses penis a lot, MAIRITE 23:42 &lt;Michagogo&gt; THE BEEPS 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; *AMIRITE 23:42 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; let's use a different word 23:42 &lt;Bander147&gt; i just join and all i see is "penis" 23:42 &lt;Michagogo&gt; THEY BURN 23:42 &lt;BrenRS&gt; sausage 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; fine 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; How about "wang" 23:42 &lt;Bander147&gt; no 23:42 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Or "Shlong" or "Chode" 23:43 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; or not 23:43 &lt;BrenRS&gt; how about trout 23:43 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Unless chode makes a beep 23:43 &lt;Michagogo&gt; Bander147: They're talking about how to catch that word in a filter or something 23:43 &lt;BrenRS&gt; "trout" 23:43 &lt;Bander147&gt; thats, um 23:43 &lt;Bander147&gt; i guess 23:43 &lt;Bander147&gt; fun 23:43 &lt;Bander147&gt; maybe? 23:43 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; fine 23:43 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; How about "fart" 23:43 &lt;BrenRS&gt;. 23:43 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; I doubt that's used often 23:43 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; hair, for a single word it would be... 23:44 &lt;Dark Zestal&gt; But that sounds mature =p 23:44 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; penis 23:45 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; ... 23:45 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Why 23:45 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; Why not? 23:45 &lt;Hairr&gt; I'm using edits that the bot has already reviewed. Meaning, the bot reviews the edit, if it's good (after going through math), it'd be added to the good file, if bad, then the bad file. That way it can be classified for edits in the future too. so yes, "penis" is used a lot but in what case would it be classified as good 23:45 &lt;Hairr&gt; :3 23:45 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; wenis, the useless skin on your elbow 23:45 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; Seriously 23:45 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Hair you're not just having good and bad files 23:45 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; when is penis ever used in an rs article 23:45 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; You can't calculate anything with that 23:45 &lt;Hairr&gt; Okay, what else am I having 23:45 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; cook 23:45 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; Suomi 23:45 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; You have GROUPS of good and bad edits 23:46 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; brb 23:46 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; delete 23:47 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; for a single word you need to calculate how many times penis is used in spam pages, how many times it's used overall, how many total spam pages there are, and how many total pages there are 23:47 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; cook 23:47 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; if you combine the files you can't determine how many total spam pages there are 23:47 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; blaze is a noob and accidentally recreated 23:47 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; WAT 23:47 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Bander147 23:47 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; block 23:47 &lt;IN008&gt; his name isnt even Suomi... 23:47 &lt;IN008&gt; its S U O  M I 23:48 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; It's S U  O  M I 23:48 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; Did he really quit? 23:48 &lt;IN008&gt; hence the spacing S_U__O__M_I. 23:48 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; lol noob chat 23:48 &lt;IN008&gt; you tried to be smart didnt you? ;D 23:49 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; yeah :( 23:49 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Yes he did 23:49 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; done drawing 23:49 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; ow my hand 23:50 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; A shame, we won't see another max experience player for a while then 23:51 &lt;IN008&gt; someone finish transing this image? battleben didnt trans it properly- http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Void_range_helm_chathead.png 23:51 &lt;IN008&gt; and before you say it, im busy 23:51 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; fine... after: 23:51 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; You do it 23:51 &lt;IN008&gt; cant 23:52 &lt;IN008&gt; i need to sleep later. 23:52 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; keyword later 23:52 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; trans it nao 23:52 &lt;IN008&gt; -_- 23:52 &lt;IN008&gt; actually ill go in game and take a picture of it without the stupid mustache tommorow :P 23:52 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; prepared fire rune 23:53 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Is Rune Memories P2P? 23:53 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; Yes 23:53 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; anyone wanna see this newb drawing of mine 23:53 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; yes 23:54 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; jk no 23:54 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; I wanna see your *amazing* drawing 23:54 &lt;SovietHero&gt; Coelacanth0794 I'l take a peek at it 23:54 &lt;SovietHero&gt; *I'll 23:54 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; well ok be gentle 23:54 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; http://i.imgur.com/ll7ZB.jpg 23:54 &lt;Blaze fire12&gt; 2spooky 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; I like how you signed with your full initials 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; too bad I can't read your handwriting 23:55 -!- PlasmaTime has joined Special:Chat 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; hi plasmer 23:55 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; it's better than nixon's sig 23:55 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; *plasma 23:55 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Short for Kevin Coelacanth 23:55 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; that's an S 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; that makes sense 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; S!? 23:55 -!- TonyBest100 has left Special:Chat. 23:55 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; Soelacanth? 23:55 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Soelacanth 23:55 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; DAMMIT 23:55 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; gtfo 23:56 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; tbf, it *is* pronounced Seelacanth 23:56 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; theys call me bill 23:56 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; your irl name is Bill? 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBw_BXcjDoU dat top comment "Even I'm trying - Chuck Norris" 23:57 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; and a variety of other names, mol 23:57 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; trying? 23:57 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; it says crying 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; sldfjsldkjf 23:57 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; "I am not quitting RS/YouTube but I won't be playing hardcore anymore." 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; crying* 23:57 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; hairr 23:57 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; I wasnt aware RS was "hardcore" 23:57 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; there was a comment by John Wall 23:57 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; but he wasn't the real one 23:58 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; and it was a top comment 23:58 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; That's not that real chuck norris either 23:59 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; *the 23:59 &lt;PlasmaTime&gt; i know 00:00 &lt;TyA&gt; Haaai 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; lol 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; nice 00:00 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; get owt 00:00 &lt;Hairr&gt; sexy avatar 00:00 &lt;IN008&gt; @pancakes 00:00 &lt;EpicPancakes&gt; what 00:00 &lt;IN008&gt; the way suomi did play rs was redonkulous. 00:00 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; !updatelogs