Talk:Armour

RuneScape armour is under deletion vote. Time to collect anything useful (possibly going back to an older version with more detail). Ace of Risk 17:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Make a note on my talk page if it's already gone. I'm an admin at English, so I can get information from deleted articles. -- Ricky81682 00:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I will try to make as many edits to get the items u said for the clothing section :) --Kakashi0070 00:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably need someone to fix the melee armor section, when i removed the vandalism i couldnt figure out how to restore the old stuff XD newb at wikis ;P --Zerofighter5 11:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

best armor
dont you think we should add this and i beleive its this gear

torags helm torags plate torages legs dragonfire sheild (50) barrows gloves rune boots Amulet of fury crozier berzerker ring--Kohora 08:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've been thinking about making a list of armour required for the maximum defense stats in stab, slash, crush, magic and ranged. I might do it sometime.--Andy mci 18:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed a mistake: the dwarven helm give a +6 crush attack bonus, and not5 like said... this should be changed.

New table
I made the following table, based off the table in the Weapons page. Not sure if/how this could be used in the article.

Ranged armour and melee stats
The ranged armour section states that it does not affect melee stats; whilst in almost all sets of ranged armour that is true is it not worth mentioning that armadyl armour DOES affect melee stats?

I'll leave the editing to you lot, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to wiki sites ;) 86.141.0.74 00:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

prayer amour
Is Verac_the_Defiled the barrows version of prayer amour? 129.11.222.239 14:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Summoning
I realized that we will have to go through all of our Armour topics and add the new summoning bonuses. The template for equipment will need to be changed to add this bonus to it. Dark shark31 21:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I already changed the template. However, "summoning" is quite a long word so I put the picture instead... not sure if it's the best option though. 21:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the picture will be good, if all the others are skills. If it's too small, just condence the letters closer together or something. 23:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the new template, adding all the new summoning bonuses and editing the pages will be very time consuming. Dark shark31 01:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Highest hit possible
Whist full Dharok's can do the highest hit in the game with MELEE I have seen a 150 been hit on a Steel titan with ruby bolts(e)
 * I'm not too sure on this, but what about a keris dagger against kalphites?Mjc3 17:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Max Strength bonus for f2p
This section does not make sense because you cannot wear both a berserker shield and a 2h. Maybe this should be changed. 75.155.102.10 18:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I just fixed a lot of misadded numbers in this section. Also fixed mismatched subs to the notes on the bottom. And there are no (t) or (g) vambraces....removed all references to that. Added in Magic Staff for max magic defence Ddaanniiellh 06:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great job! 75.155.102.10 19:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Attack Vs. Defence
Do we really need to have the defence bonuses for the armour on the attack table? For example (ranged attack)...

I don't think its needed. The table listing the greatest ranged defence is underneath the table listing the greatest ranged attack (and the same for all other attack styles).

The choices are:
 * Delete that column (for all tables), and only have the bonus related to the table;
 * Or, list all bonuses (in all tables).

Either one I'd be happy to do, I just thought I'd ask for a community decision. 18:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Max Prayer Bonus, Skill Cape Pictures
The max prayer bonus with a cape comes with a trimmed skill cape as listed, however all of the pictures are of untrimmed skillcapes.Mjc3 17:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Runecrafting Guild
I just thought I might add that a Runecrafting staff gives a 15+ magic boost instead of 10+ for a regular Magic Staff. So in time you should update the list.

Costs
A point raised by Jdogy15 on Talk:Ranged - adding a note saying the total cost for all parts of the outfits for each highest bonus tables. It would be quite useful - what does the comunity think? 18:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I for one support it, (obviously because im jdogy15) and to my dismay every article i put the cost for each one was deleted. it does take a little work to find and calculate those. (i put it up on ranged, strength, and magic). Jdogy15 22:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

new high f2p
with the new corrupt dragon armour, the highest hit and the highest defence bonus is now a lot higher for F2P 09:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Ancient Warriors' Equipment
Right. With a lot of the Ancient Warriors' Equipment now being the best available for a lot of things, we need to know what to list in the Best Bonuses sections. Should we list:
 * 1) The attack/magic/ranged/defence level for the corrupt versions (i.e. level 20, like here).
 * 2) The levels for the normal versions (i.e. level 78, like here).
 * Or, not list them at all, and instead use the next best item, that doesn't disintegrate after a short period. (i.e. if barrows armour is the best, use that - it doesn't disintegrate, it degrades and is repairable; like here (see crush specifically))

In all cases leaving a note stating the next-best non-disintergrating armour (or, in the case of number 3, the relative Ancient Warriors' armour, explaining that it disintegrates), the bonus for that item, and new total bonus with that/those items.

The wiki needs consistancy in this region!

Hope a consensus is reached. 21:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

No Best Melee Attack Bonuses for Block Attack Style
Can somebody do with it?:)--193.138.240.146 13:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No can do. "Block" is the name of the style, while stab, slash and crush are the bonuses that actually determine your accuracy.

Sorry
About the accidental rollback. I lagged on the page and clicked around and accidentally hit that button. 00:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

PvP Armour
I think that PvP armour should not be put up in the main table because of it's disintegration, however it should be in the notes underneath saying that it has higher statistics, however it will disappear after an hour. 18:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, pvp armour isn't that practical for most people to use due to its current price. Or maybe make a separate table for it? 01:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

F2P Max Magic Damage
In the article, it says that combat robes can boost the maximum hit of fire blast. Seeing as I am ranked 82nd in fog at the time of posting this comment, and as such I can easily get combat robes, I'm going to see if this is true, or just a rumor. --Its a Pwner 00:08, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I checked the history page and apparently a registered user put in that information somewhere in november. 00:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing that's mis-information, as only two things boost the max hit of any spell: chaos gauntlets for bolt spells, and a the castlewars brace's effect when fighting the banner carrier. Though it may be true; we shall have to wait and see. 18:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I was gone so long. CB robes don't increase the max. Its a Pwner 01:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Category: Clean up
This artical has clean up category at the bottom but it dosn`t need clean up, i think this should be removed.--Gbadude3 18:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Free Equipment Section
I thought this might be interesting, there could be a section listing the best armor you can get replaced for free. Stuff like achievement diary rewards and quest rewards like the ram helm. It could be useful for people not wanting to risk expensive armor in a dangerous situation.
 * That does sound like an interesting concept, however I can't image the list of free items that give stats would be very long. 18:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, this isn't a complete list but we have Sea Boots, Varrock Platebody, Falador Shield, Explorers Ring, Bonesack/Ram Helm, Seers Headband, Anti-Dragon shield, Beacon Ring, Gnome Amulet, and Karamja Gloves. I guess it could also include any item which spawns on the ground somewhere in runescape, and theres certainly gonna be more achievement diary awards in the future.  Actually, I guess there could be a category or page to list all these items as well.--KaBob799 19:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I likes the idea. Here is the preliminary table - add further items to it (snazzy red border deliminates what will be on the page):


 * 1. All enchanted versions (Cooking, Goldsmithing and Chaos) give the same bonuses.
 * 2. The Training sword gives better crush attack (-2), slash defence (+3) and crush defence (+2) bonuses.'
 * 3. All versions of the Explorer's ring give the same bonuses.
 * 4. All god capes (Saradomin, Guthix and Zamorak) give the same bonuses.


 * No weapon chosen, since I'm not sure of it (excalibur, enhanced excalibur, silverlight and darklight aren't free to get back, they cost 500/1000 coins). I chose the bonesack to have a cape, but the ram skull helm probably would end up with better bonuses... of course you can't have both. 21:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Once again Gaz to the rescue! Don't forget that the new quest gives us a choice between Bonesack(e) and a Ram Skull Helm(e), although I'm not sure what the stats are now, or what the cost is (if any). I'm gonna add the Training sword (the only completely free weapon I am aware of) and the Family gauntlets from Family Crest, but I can't do it right now because I have to leave soon. Although knowing Gaz they'll be here by the time I get back! 22:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I'm guessing we would be better off using the Ram Helm than the Bonesack, if this is supposed to be best stats possible. Someone needs to confirm this, but are the god capes re-obtainable?  Also, the Beacon Ring is +2 magic attack and +1 magic defence which is fairly equal to the Explorers Ring.  I added the Gnome Amulet and agile legs (agile top needs to replace varrock armor) and tweaked the karamja gloves info.  Also, if we do add a weapon, wolfbane would count.  Which bonus are we aiming for here though?--KaBob799 23:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Added wolfbane (training sword however gives better slash and crush defence), changed to ram skull helm (bonesack(e) has +6 rather than +4 apparently, so I guess ram skull helm(e) has increased stats too; RS Game Guide doesn't mention them though), changed to family gauntlets (better bonuses in general than karamja gloves), changed to Agile top (better defences and no reduced offensives), added god capes (good catch, they are freely re-obtainable).
 * What bonuses? Well what I see here is a good, compiled list of bonuses with ifs and buts - using your example: if you want prayer bonus, go with the explorer's ring, but if you want magic attack the beacon ring is better, and for everything else both are equal; another: for magic defence and prayer, go with the seers' headband, otherwise ram skull helm all the way. We can format these into multiple tables later. 00:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that the setup we have here can go down as the best melee setup, however we might need to make separate setups for best free mage and range gear. Individual best stab/slash/crush defense/attack probably isn't worth going into a lot of detail. I dunno, there's no reason not to I guess... Also should we consider negligable costs? Like what about Climbing boots? Those are like 15 gp, and even the 1k cost of the Enhanced excalibur is pretty tiny for something which is a LOT better than Wolfbane.  00:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If we do a seperate page for the more specific stuff we could have a "items worth almost nothing" section, but I think it would be too much to add to this page. For this page we could just have top melee, top range, and top mage and leave the stab/slash stuff for the seperate page.--KaBob799 01:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I just added in the Ram Skull Helm(e) (as it turns out its only +2-4 better than the normal, I should have expected as much!) and also changed the tense to have it all in the past tense, since I think it sounds better, lulz  01:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)