Talk:Gender

My edit, 8:00 am, december 4th

 * I deleted the references as no other article has them, and it just links to the Knowledge Base which is more or less a given as a source of info, and the info is in the articles we've already linked to anyway.
 * Replaced "thievery" with "Thieving" per the style guide - call skills by their proper name and capitalise it.
 * Replaced lots of 's with a as it cleans up the edit page.

I put all this here as a sort of advice-type thing to whoever wrote the article. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 08:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC) tag in wikis, but I will not tamper with these in this article if the layout is improved with them there. Other than that lot, I think I will pretty much just see what other people do with this article. :-) Leevclarke 21:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, that doesn't mean you can't disagree, though. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  08:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * References do exist in other articles, but probably only because I have been citing them. I know it seems trivial to link to the manual, but Jagex may revise the numbers for levels required, experience gained, etc., and I think it would make sense to cite sources for one-click verification.  Does a references policy exist on this wiki?
 * My apologies for referring to Thieving as "thievery" - I spent an awful lot of time playing Might and Magic II in my younger days, and it was called "thievery" in that. Also, RuneScape's skills are not consistently named (cf. Hunter instead of Hunting), and it can be confusing.  :-p  I also looked up the style guide (for the first time, I confess), and skills should indeed be capitalised.  I will be diligent about this in the future.
 * I very rarely use the
 * We don't have a references policy. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  21:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So should we be citing them? I would prefer to, JIC the numbers change with all the updates.  It seems like a good habit, and may also set this wiki apart from other fan sites.  ;-)  Leevclarke 23:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Male/female pictures (For Tarikochi and Cool Spy)
Come on, you're supposed to use talk pages, girls. Anyways, would a half-decent compromise be for Tarikochi to change to more male-typical clothes for her male picture, instead of identical clothes? I mean, how many men do you see wearing supershort shorts? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 18:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry Vimes. Simply, as stated in my edit summary, that identical clothes make it hard to tell body features (and slightly redundant too.) Anyway, I'll remove that image entirely (meaning delete it from the Wiki) if her character's clothing can be changed somewhat from the female model. Cool Spy0 18:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Groovy. Why couldn't you come to this conclusion without me? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  18:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because you're smart and I'm not? :P (Also kind of because my picture was first, but that's not really important to me.) Cool Spy0 18:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Technically, my image was there first as according to its credits and history and I already had plans to put it in this article when it only had four edits in it, but I had to deal with real life issues first. However, I attempted to compromise by not removing the other image right away.

Seeing as some of the argument was on who was there first, both of those images were used in some other similar articles such as Account and Human, making it appropriate to use it in this one also, even more so as the subject suits it.

Along with that, the differentiation is more clear between the exact same models with one difference, rather than two models with a large amount of variables of differences. It is actually harder to tell with different clothes than identical ones in this subject. Tarikochi 22:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Tari - A little give and take. Come on, we all know the difference between a guy and a girl. So making those differences a little more obvious won't hurt. Think about it. If this draws out into another lame debate, chances are the article will be EVEN WORSE afterwards, so just accept the compromise? Please? It won't kill you, nor will it detract from the article. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  22:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And just to clarify - if you don't accept this, it WILL turn into a lame debate, and the article WILL be ruined. And it will be your fault. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  22:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It sure is appropriate to blame someone for something. Regardless, I have not started removing any images until it was deemed by judgement on which was first and which looked more appropriate to the subject.  [[Image:Bowman_hat.png|12px]]Tarikochi 00:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Can i add my opinion? its a talk page after all, what i think is that the images are nice, but it wont hurt that the man image has long pants, it would look more manly and it's not such a big difference as she says, it isn't lots of variables, it's just the pants, i don't think you will go broke by spending 6k on this, or a little more time on recording, saving as animation and uploading, it's just a recommendation, do it if you want 22:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * We don't exactly want to give the opinion that men on this game look gay all the time do we? Whiplash 22:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, you simplified what i was trying to say 23:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Homophobe. :-p  Leevclarke 00:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The issue is with the female image, not the male one. [[Image:Bowman_hat.png|12px]]Tarikochi 00:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

While tanning hides in Al Kharid, a player complained to me that the animations all have the same person in them. Maybe a bit of variety would help, instead of putting the same animations on virtually every page. Cool Spy0 23:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No one complained to me about it. In fact, a huge amount phrased me, even ones not talking about Wikipedia.  [[Image:Bowman_hat.png|12px]]Tarikochi 00:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd upload my dude, but I don't know how to make animated images. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  23:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the point of graphics is to illustrate, not to please the whims of everyone with an opinion. Personally I don't at all mind seeing an image (or animation) used on several pages, if it adequately demonstrates its relevance to each article.  There seems little point in creating a hundred different images for the sake of variety when three would do. Leevclarke 00:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)