User talk:The Mol Man


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Barrows
If the stream explicitly says that "for each brother killed, one roll for rewards is done", killing all 7 brothers is better than killing only 6. Regardless of whether this does or does not increase the exact chance for a barrows tem from a single roll. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:57, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Other relevant things he stated in the stream:
 * It is not possible to get two of the same barrow pieces from one chest. Either he wasn't clear about this or I didn't pay proper attention, but he /may/ have implied that this is "more than one piece from a single brother's set" as opposed to just "duplicate pieces".
 * He said that it is theoretically possible to:
 * Get an empty chest (with all brothers killed), but this requires having the 7th brother (no I cannot spell his name...) available, only then can a roll be empty, and having all 7 reward rolls end up empty.
 * Get 7 barrow equipment pieces from a single chest. (Here he mentioned something about each roll having to land on a piece from a different brother, which made me wonder about the "two of the same pieces" thing above).
 * IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:08, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I should mention, "for each brother killed, one roll for rewards is done" is not verbatim, rather from memory, but he did explicitly state that meaning. 7 brothers killed gives you 7 reward slots. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:09, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Your rewording looks fine, but I wonder about this bit:

"Killing a brother will only add their items to the chest as a possible reward, so if a certain brother's items are undesired, he can be ignored without decreasing the chance for a desired item (assuming at least 4 are killed)."

This statement can be either true or false, based on the exact probabilities of receiving an equipment piece. The chance to get a good equipment piece may still be higher by killing an additional brother (and thus getting an additional roll) than not killing the brother (and thus not having 'unlocked' their equipment for the rolls). IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:12, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds like an acceptable theory with the information we have been given so far (in the stream nothing was mentioned about a roll being tied to a specific brother, though). I'm fine with your current version of the article. Of course I'd prefer cold, hard, trustworthy facts on the matter, but if JMods aren't handing out those, not much we can do... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:26, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

The issue with a stream timestamp, it is a mess of just talking, reacting to questions, and then giving a little bit of drop mechanic information. Not one or two timestamps will give you all (or even most) of the information. I'll see if I can find the timestamps for the more relevant bits I've mentioned above (but even then, unless I watch the whole thing again, which I'm not planning on doing, I'll likely miss parts of the answers).

Regarding the dupes, his example mentioned something along the lines of "Say roll 1 gives you a Guthan's spear, then your next rolls just give you runes, and roll 7 gives you another Guthan's spear. The game will say "bad luck for you, but you cannoy have a second spear" and not give you the spear." I forgot what the end result (if mentioned) is meant to be: no item for that roll or just a random non-barrows item instead. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:31, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Might take me until Thursday or Friday evening before I find the time to check the stream again and note the relevant timestamps, though. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:48, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Soz, I have no archive of Mod Dean's post from 2 years ago. FWIW, I always wondered if the chances at a brother's item started at 1/450 after 1 kill or before 1 kill. It would make more sense if it started after 1 kill, but that's not the way he said it. -- 20:53, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Vine videos for news articles
I don't suppose it would be possible to implement something similar to the Youtube template onto news articles, only that it'll be useable for Vine videos as seen in the recent Summer Raffle TH article. Right now the only thing that can be done is to add the links to them on the page. 16:37, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Template
That's okay, I'll just disagree :P. That's true, the list does it perfectly, but it's not a navbox. Okay, the reqs don't have such a strong relationship with each other, but they're still related bc they're all reqs of the comp cape. That last sentence of yours is what we Dutch call: comparing apples with pears. Reqs for a quest are not the same as reqs for comp. Apples =/= pears. 16:47, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

MiningUrnCapacity
Dioesn't incldue Rubium. 21 Rubium = 12% of a decorated urn approx. Rich Farmbrough, 22:56 24 June 2015 (UTC).

Barrows twitch stream
Link: http://www.twitch.tv/runescape/v/6507918

The timestamps I noted down when something relevant was starting to be said, with a very crude description of what the part is about:
 * 11:10: general info, and "cuz it's an absolute crazy one, but we know kind of exactly how it works now"
 * 22:35: general info, explicit mention of X brother kills = X reward rolls
 * 29:35: tl;dr of the above
 * 30:50: possible to get nothing in a roll (roughly 1:500 chance, NOT 1:512), only true if you kill 7 brothers
 * 33:05: clues: 1:100, if all 7 brothers were killed; for every brother not killed add "about a quarter of that 100" (doesn't match the info we already have)
 * 34:05: 7 rolls & roll info
 * 34:40: "never see a double [barrows] item", get nothing instead
 * 36:30: dragon med roughly 1:150, based on # brothers killed
 * 37:40: effect of creature killcount (with a sweet spot [likely 8?]), and not purely "number slain", more than 14 is useless
 * 40:35: in theory a 7-barrow-item chest is possible; "if you land on the same brother again, you get nothing", similar chance to a completely empty chest
 * 58:40: total loot from 200 chests
 * 58:55: runes are not exactly 2* the lower rune amount
 * 59:20: "obsiouvly need to buy tooth half of keys because they are rarer"
 * 59:45: conspiracy with Akrisae
 * 01:03:00: slightly unlucky result for 7 brother kills
 * 01:03:30: wealth evaluator of loot (270m)

IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:25, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

lolrng
rekt http://gfycat.com/LividPaleBassethound 00:13, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reminded me of something
http://imgur.com/a/6RQvF

--Jlun2 (talk) 14:47, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

ge pages
Hey, I tried using Special:Whatlinkshere for Exchange:Babydragon bones, but it seems I missed some that weren't listed. How do I check next time this happens? --Jlun2 (talk) 13:04, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Spider
What about spider on my shaft?
 * In-game says spider on stick, can't find "spider on a stick" in QC. Where did you get the latter from?

RE: #sub
Yeah, just noticed the note in the MediaWiki #sub subsection. Looks like we just got a new Lua module, too.... -- 19:50, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Stop deleteing my work!

 * The Tuska (crash site) page is meant to be more than "just saying it's on the map" but every time I try to upload my edits there is an "edit conflict" and all my changes end up being lost! This is extremely frustrating to me! I worked on that page for some time adding information & content to make it a proper page, only to lose all my work on it!
 * I'm sorry if I'm new at using the editor & can't type a whole page in two minutes. I'm sorry that I'd like this wiki to have a nice up-to-date page on a new (seemingly permanent) location & it's activities, that can be updated later when raids are released, instead of a confused, contradictory mess about a temporary event that ended.
 * "I don't think your work should just be wiped away" then why do you keep just wiping it away? What if I found a page you'd been working on, deleted it & turned it into a redirect page, then said "I don't think that deserves a page"? How would that make you feel?
 * The "Tuska comes" event is over, the page for it is full of now incorrect & contradictory information, maybe that is the page you need to remove.Nerfbomb (talk) 23:04, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, please don't send me a message cursing at me (I did not swear at you) just because my internet is slow, and took it several minutes to save & send a message I wrote to your page. I hadn't seen your previous message to me when I sent mine to you, I received it while mine was still "saving".

If you hadn't sent me that profane message I would have sent a new message to your page apologizing for the message about vandalism. However, I expect an apology from you for cursing at me. http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/RS:UTP#Respect_other_users

Thank you for the link, and for using the map I had already uploaded :) . Honestly, I don't even remember everything I was going to put on the page about the new Tuska location, but I will work on the new section of the Tuska page at a later time. (when my internet is not being super slow) Nerfbomb (talk) 00:29, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Herbs page
I thought that i could help by posting the most frequently used herbs for ironman players, so they dont pick up the less often used herbs, as not everyone have in their head which herbs are "useless" UlyssesPinheiro (talk) 05:17, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Raids
Can I do the raid bosses with you some time? And maybe other bosses too like Vorago or Rots, though atm I'm due to go on vacation for a few days soon.

New acquisition!
http://i.imgur.com/6eCSGEg.jpg?1 Pancakebaby (talk) 01:50, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Red rocks
Except mining them has a different result. They are in no way related, other than assets being reused. Anyhow... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:26, July 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Their use is still different, so they are not "exactly the same". Even if in the game code they have the same unique identifier and their original function was changed, their semantics were changed which should warrant its own article. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:37, July 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * First of all, please use my talk page properly.
 * As for precedent, per RS:GRAN: 1) No they do not have the same purpose, 2) No they cannot be substituted for eachother. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:46, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Araxxi - the change you undid
You undid my change about Araxxi, but you were wrong. I have undone your change. Test it yourself before you revert next time. I have killed almost 2000 so this information is over a massive sample size.

"always random, nothing influences" This is incorrect. Phase 3 alters slightly depending on the path you went down, and the 2 that are open. I am currently in the process of detailing all those specifics and I will be uploading them to the guide.