Talk:Farming

I'm reasonably happy with this guide now, can anyone think of anything I'm missing? Possibly 'uses' for various farmed items such as calquats = beer kegs?

--Eucarya 11:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Are the gardening boots really just decorative? I read somewhere else -- no citation, sorry -- that they boost farming level while worn. Can't attest. Just thought someone might confirm. -- MrRedwood 08:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Jagex confirmed a while ago that the boots were strictly decorative, and they don't help farming at all. --Eucarya 11:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Source of confirmation: http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2184 Piesofdoom 10:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC) --PiesofDoom.

Too Long
IMO, this page is too long. It can be cleaned up says I. --24.109.206.88 01:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

The big farm run section could be cleaned up (there's still a lot of HTML in there and needs a few inventory images), and could be moved to a different page, but I can't see what else you'd want to chop from it really. --Eucarya 08:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Check please
Would someone care to check this edit? I don't know anything about farming, but it's the kind of thing that could slip through the net... JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 16:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * His edits look more true than our old times. --Whiplash 16:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I looked at it earlier - as far as I can tell it's mostly correct, but since the knowledge base now no longer shows approximate growth times (too many complaints I'm guessing - it's an average dudes). The veg times don't look quite right however, so I might change those back.  --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 16:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * On further review, this looks properly measured, rather than going by original estimates off rs knowledgebase that have since disappeared. I'm gonna leave it.  Really, it should be measured in the number of "growth cycles", but those are pretty impossible to measure.
 * Oh. I didn't know it was an average. :) JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  17:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Basically there's a growth cycle every 5-10 minutes or so, but the amount of time depends partly on how heavily loaded the farming "server" is. You also don't know when your growth cycle starts, so if you go back to your herbs exactly 70 minutes later, there's no guarantee that they'll be done.  Note that herbs (and possibly other things maybe) only appear to have a chance to become diseased in their final cycle, so if you're lucky and time it right, when you visit all your herb patches they're all either grown or diseased, thus saving some crops that otherwise would have died.  I've had herbs take 2.5 hours before, but also be ready bang on time.  It depends on a number of factors and I think this is why they removed the original growth-time estimates from the knowledge base. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 17:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The growth cycles depend on what, if anything, is planted in a patch. Empty patches and flower patches (and watered tree seedlings) are on 5 minute cycles.  Planted herbs are on 20 minute cycles.  Most plants seem to grow after 4 cycles.  Cycles are constantly going even when patches are fallow.  So, one can weed their herb patch, plant an herb and have a growth cycle 1 second to 20 minutes later.  An herb can grow in 60-80 minutes if it stays healthy, thus the 70-minute average growth time.  Disease stops growth for a cycle, and if uncured, dies the next cycle. (All plants can definitely get sick on every cycle.) One exception to the 4-cycle rule seems to be watermelons, which has at least 5 cycles I think.  I haven't planted below tomatoes in so long that I don't know much about those lower veggies' cycles, either.  There is one piece of data that every site seems to agree on, but seems terribly wrong in my experience: The growth time of Curry trees.  880 minutes average growth time or 14.6 hours.  Definitely not.  Even if Curry trees are on a 3-cycle growth, making the growth cycle, according to this data, 352 minutes, it shouldn't take longer than 17.6 hours to grow.  I've never had one of these trees take less than 24+ hours.  Anyone else have data/experience on this or other fruit tree growth times?  -- Cuteachu Talk 22:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

"Bribe" to Farmers
I suggest using the word bribe to payment. It is not a bribe, as a bribe is an illegal payment. It's simply payment for a farmer to help.

Help
How do I make weeds into compost?--Miles Castea 08:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Put it in a compost bin. --Mura 23:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Issue:Belladona
70 mins, Is that really how long a belladona plant takes to grow it seems longer to me can someone check this? --Whiplash 00:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * In my experience, that seems about right... 71.196.162.50 07:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Number of seeds for hops
I know that different types of hops require 3 or 4 seeds at a time, regular allotments also require 3. Should this be put in the guide somewhere?


 * That would be excellent information to have, add it if you can. 18:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Training Guide
This is a pretty good article, but along with the great info, it would be useful to have a level-by-level training guide. I could put some ideas down, but my experience with Farming is relatively low. I especially love the crop run guide that's already here (haven't found another site with the same info yet!). It would be nice to have an addition to the guide that gives suggestions on what to farm at which level, that might either make money, or allow fast leveling. Any thoughts? 18:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just not the guide at the moment. Nobody trains with hops ever. Especially Jangleberry at level 49.
 * The best way I find to train farming is to use all the seeds (Especially Tree seeds) from the kingdom, which are attained with Maples.Blazel 16:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

This should no longer be a stub
I find this article long enough and seemingly complete enough and does not deserved to be labeled a stub any longer. WHat does anyone think? should this be still a stub or not? if you still consider this a stub, then y? --Fatman4ever 00:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, this is certainly not a stub. If it is still marked as such then I will remove that template.

Graphic at beginning of article
Re: the graphic at the top of the Farming article. Having it full-size in a frame is too big for the screen resolution I use when playing RuneScape (800x600, so that I can see the gaming screen more clearly). Having the picture in full size is not necessary, as it only illustrates what a typical farming area might look like.

Having this as a thumbnail does not detract significantly from people reading the article, but having it full size causes it to actually "break out" of the article width on the screen. It encroaches on the left-hand menu, and forces the beginning of the text (the article, which is what this page is supposed to be!) to begin underneath the picture itself.

It's a terrible look for the article, and in my mind at least it is undoubtedly inappropriate.

What I am saying is that I propose changing this to a thumbnail instead of a full-size picture in the article. I had changed this to a thumbnail myself, but it was reverted almost immediately, so I have decided to seek other opinions.

I would certainly appreciate input. Many thanks. :-) Leevclarke 16:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Number of stuff you get after.
I know that how many you harvest (if it ever reaches maturity) is level dependant, any chance to find a way to that formula ? Garouppa 16:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Kelda hops is missing
Here's their entry. It's a quest only item, I think, but it should be at least linked from here.

Kelda hops are used in the Forgettable Tale of a Drunken Dwarf quest. They are grown by planting Kelda seeds in in the farming patch in Keldagrim, and are used to make Kelda Stout.

Farming Training is absolute bogus
There is no exact method that is the "fastest" way to train farming. Telling people to just grow one type of crop via such and such levels is misleading and incorrect. Make it more comprehensive or remove it. --Whiplash 03:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I have totally revised the whole "farming" article, feel free to see any more thing to be deleted or re-arranged. Also, I have dealt with your problem raised, by changing the name of the section instead of directly pointing that the method provided is the best method for training farming. 04:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Herbs
Is there anywhere where it says what the minimum and maximum yeilds from herb patches is?

If you use super compost you will get from 5-18 herbs. Without its 3-? (not really sure on the most). Magic secetaures from the Fairy Tale Part1 allow for more of a crop which includes herbs (10% more crop yield).

Shorter page?
I surely am not savvy enough to create new pages and move contents of existing pages yet of the magnitude I am suggesting. But personally, in order to greatly reduce the length of this article, I believe that the entire sections from "Patches" to "Special Items" should be moved to a whole new page and a link to that page placed on the main Farming page. I'm not sure what to call it, perhaps Farming Times or Farming Locations, or maybe make two pages and call it both. It just seems that those grids are nearly half of the farming page.

Karlis 15:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, the page is very slow. I suggest the name: Farming page 2, make 'Farming page 1' a redirect to the normal one and links to the other page both on top and at the bottom of the two pages. The talk page of 2 will be a redirect to this page. To avoid splitted discussions. I ask for your opinions. DobbelB 19:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Vinesweeper
Why there is double entry about Vinesweeper under "Obtainig seeds" section?

Purawskis 17:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

checking?
I saw on this site that "checking" a plant gives ex. what is checking and how do u do it?


 * When some plants are fully grown they have a "Check Health" option- you can only do this once, and it is your only option. 71.196.162.50 07:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Other sources of farming xp
The Jade vine is another source of farming experience. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but you can plant it and kill it after letting it grow wild for Farming and Slayer experience, or you can just keep pruning it for continued farming XP. Could someone add that info to the page? --nekobawt 18:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Seeds
I'm really starting to feel that Seeds needs to become it's own article separate from Farming, much like Summoning familiars is from Summoning, and yes there is still room for the specialty articles like Herb seeds just the same as Beast of Burden. Agree(y/n)? 21:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Factual correction
i noticed that the article says the farming skill was released in the year 1944. i don't know the actual date of release, but i was hoping someone else who knows could fix it. thanks.Lemonfresh 06:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Obtaining 99 Farming
Can anyone see the need to state in the introduction that skilling in farming is slow - I am lvl 70 and I rarely plant trees or fruit trees because I harvest willow branches and coconuts as a money making tool. If I were to concentrate on skilling then easily get 76k per day planting trees: 152 days to get 12.5M in exp from planting 5 yews and 4 palm trees per day.

Belanderson 14:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)Belanderson


 * I would've removed it if my browser would save the page. I disagree though - with the right materials, farming can be fast. 5 magic trees + 5 palm trees + 10 watermelon patches + 4 white lily + 1 limpwurt + 5 torstol (1 disease free) + 4 wildblood patches + 4 poison ivy bushes + evil turnip + belladonna + cactus + jade vine + mushroom patch + calquat tree + spirit tree + vinesweeper inbetween runs. That's a lot of experience, with a requirement of only 1/4 the experience of 99 (i.e. level 85). I admit not many/any players would do this, but its theoretically possible. And there are slower skills; slayer and hitponts are both slow (I'd like to be able to get 76k/day for as little work as is needed for farming). 15:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Amazing farming equipment store
Can someone upload the latest Amazing farming equipment store image? Thanks! Belanderson 18:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)