RuneScape:Requests for merging/Santa Claus

He is revealed to be Santa in the end of the event and I think we shouldn't have multiple NPC article like with Father Christmas, Hooded Stranger and Santa Claus (they now merged) and I don't think it is an expection.

Merge - As nominator Zoli Ben

Oppose - Serves different purpose than the previous ones. I'm assuming this is about Thorvar Crittersmash and Santa Claus right? 05:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge - Santa serves a different purpose every year, but the article has plenty of room for all his incarnations without becoming a mess. Also, according to RS:G "NPCs who are confirmed to be the same person should be merged" and Thorvar Crittersmash is confirmed to be Santa. However, if someone manages to dig up enough verifiable information about Thorvar that it doesn't fit neatly in the article on Santa, I think RS:UCS would override RS:G, like it does for Amascut and Sumona. Unless such information is found and added, however, I'm all for merging. -- 06:58, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge Per MarkGyver -- 08:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - They are different NPCs. While RS:G says things confirmed to be the same person should be merged, people will not be looking for Santa Claus when they search for Thorvar Crittersmash. They just won't. I think a note saying that this NPC is Santa is more than enough. 09:51, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Merge - Thorvar Crittersmash is Santa. He admits it at the end of the quest, and people searching for Thorvar Crittersmash will be looking for Santa Claus, they will just be after him as he appears in the 2010 Christmas event. Its pretty easy to redirect to Santa Claus. Manga Maniac 10:43, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone is debating that he is Santa Claus. But I disagree that people, at least now, will be looking for Santa Claus when they search for Thorvar.  Yes, we could do anchor redirects, but that's useless when the NPC has enough information to have its own article.   11:02, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose - Read RS:G.
 * Does item A have the same purpose/use as item B?
 * No, this is a different year and different NPC.


 * Can item A be substituted with item B?
 * No, as this NPC has different dialogue, different graphics and a different name to Santa.

Just add a note to the article like Cook said. That will have the same effect. 10:49, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Does item A have the same purpose/use at item B?
 * Yes, comes at a Christmas event and plays a crucial part to the event.
 * Can item A be substituted with item B?
 * Considering how he admits he is Santa at the end, I believe that they could've have just left the name Santa Claus as the name and had him pretending not to be him. So, yes.
 * That, of course, is my opinion. Manga Maniac 10:56, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could have, but didn't. They're different NPCs, and every NPC deserves its own article. Thorvar Crittersmash is a different name to Santa, and serves a different purpose to Santa. You really need more than that? 11:10, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * They're not different NPCs, Thorvar admits he is Santa at the end of the event, and thus "NPCs who are confirmed to be the same person should be merged." Manga Maniac 11:32, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * They are the same character, but not the same NPC. Just because the policy says so, doesn't mean you have to follow it. 11:41, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are confusing NPC with identity. Thorvar looks different, has a different examine, has a different name, says different things, and is in a different place.  He's a different NPC.  His identity is (likely) Santa, but he is a different person for the intent of the page.   11:45, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is identity isn't (likely), he is Santa. He admits it. If Thorvar is split off, then Hooded stranger should be split off as well, shouldn't it? Also, technically an "NPC" is a "Non-playable character" so if you're the same character, you'd be the same NPC, but I get what you mean. Manga Maniac 11:49, December 21, 2010 (UTC)