User talk:Tebuddy/Archive3

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re:If you were offended
well, not really. But lets just stop now, I won't make any silly comments on you, and vice versa. Like I said before I don't want a war. We are sensible, so lets just forget about it.10:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You think I made it up?
RuneScape:Yew_Grove/Archive2 My saying it existed was enough. --Degenret01 14:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In the YG we achieve concensus by discussion, therefor it is irrelevant who makes a statement of support or oppose. Only in cases where an actual vote tally determines an outcome are IPs prohibited from voting. That was understood by everyone back then which is why so many people did not get involved in the talk.--Degenret01 00:36, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

:O
How could you hate spies? They're mah favourite classes after Medics >_<

Quick question
Do you ever edit articles, or just stick to the yew grove? ‎Atlandy 21:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Te buddy. Just came on to check stuff and I keep seeing your posts on the yew groove. You've got good character and personality. Keep it up as you never leave something, you keep aiming for it. In short words, very nice work. 18:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Yew Grove Question
I have a Yew Grove question. I left about 18 hours between replying to the last comment on YG and I wasn't sure how to reply since there was a ton of messages after the discussion. Should I have continued on at the same spot like I did or should I have replied at the bottom of the page?? 06:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Link exchange
Yes, I am aware of the discussion. The links can be created at the sidebar, which displays in all other pages, or at the main page. Correct me I'm wrong, but if Zybez is going to put our link in only 1 page, shouldn't we be doing the same? And, adding the link to the collapsible sidebar, which uses JavaScript, would not improve our Google ranking since robots do not "sniff" hidden links.

And, what will be the title for this collapsible thing? "Other fansites", "Partner sites", or something else? 20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That would improve our pagerank, since their pagerank (5/10) is higher than ours (4/10). Just add their link on Fan site, and add a link to "Fan site" on the Main Page. 21:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Right next to the "Website Disclaimer" link? You should have consulted this at the forums. You should not be asking me this...  22:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. The "RuneScape:Main Page" is meant for experimentation anyway. I'll fix any errors if I find them. 22:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, looks okay to me. 22:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Question
I was trying to say this in-game. Does the link have to be on the front page of the wiki for it to affect the search result?? I noticed that in the currently proposed main page, the Zybez link will be on the links page, not the front page. This might be what you and Az are talking about, though I am not sure. 10:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Opposing
I didn't oppose the discussion because it was you who proposed it. We have had many discussions regarding the consensus and we just finally got a consensus on a new setup. Why didn't you propose this when that discussion was alive? I'm opposing for the sake of opposing because I am entitled to my opinion. What was meant my that comment was I oppose per the other opposes, which is opposing for the sake of opposing. My oppose is still as valid as the others. 18:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Just Wondering...
Hi, I was on your User Page and I saw a picture that you had 129 T coins. Does that mean you have 129 Trillion? Sorry if this question sounds noobish or something, but I would like to know please. -- Roguekarma23 talk 18:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, the German abbreviation is T for Tausend which is thousand in German. But that is hilarious (when I thought it was trillon) -- Roguekarma23 talk 15:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Ventrilo
Can you come on for a min? i am Liam and i am in the rogue squadron

I only downloaded it yesterday so i wanna see what i can do on it.

thanks,

10:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

oh and what is the pass for the admin chat?

10:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Ahum.
Don't forget to sign, next time you nominate an image for Featured Image (do it here). 12:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Misguided
Firstly, let me apologise for taking three days to offer a response, but I didn't know how to begin. I totally agree with Degen's sentiments in that RFA - I was pretty appalled at some of the comments people left for someone who is relatively new to the wiki, and who perhaps is not too familiar with policies and procedures that are in place. It could happen to anyone, and some of the comments came across as rather unkind. However, I disagree with your opinion that RFAs are unnecessarily elaborate - whilst we always say that adminship is no big deal (and indeed it is not a status symbol), the extra tools associated with it are potentially dangerous in the wrong hands. Even if someone is trying to help (as I believe Parsonsda is), a rash move with sysop tools can be bad news.

Added to this is the fact that ranks in the wiki clan chat are determined by technical abilities on the wiki. We already have apparently random kickings going on, and whilst some people theorise that this may be a bug, my concern is that this could well be a rogue user who has obtained kicking abilities, and is not using them responsibly. This suggests that, if anything, our RFA procedures may not be thorough enough. I accept that it is impossible to know that someone is going to do the right thing 100 percent of the time, and we do assume good faith, that doesn't mean we have to be idiots about it.

In RFAs, it is important that it is kept open for a significant period of time, so that people do have plenty of opportunity to raise any relevant issues. It is absolutely not enough for someone to say "I deserve sysop facilities", and for us to take that as enough to grant them. We have to know that they are making good edits, and that they understand relevant policies, procedures and guidelines (the style guide, for example) as a bare minimum.

I could scarcely believe my eyes when I saw the Psycho Robot (a name I do not particularly recognise) supported the RFA "because its what cool people do", contrary to all the evidence already presented at that point. To see you agreeing with that and adding that you were supporting simply to encourage Parsonsda and because they have good intentions was also pretty incredible, because I know you are a regular in discussions, and should know better that this is a terrible reason to give someone sysop tools.

You are not the first person who seems a tad disillusioned with the way the wiki is going, and you won't be the last. However, handing out adminship to anyone who asks for it is the opposite of the way to go. To be honest, it seems reckless, and it makes a mockery of everything the community here has built up over a period of years. It could be destroyed in much less time than that, if RFAs like Parsonsda's are approved (and this is nothing personal against Parsonsda, it's just a pertinent example).

Fortunately there are so many good contributors here at the moment that the sentiments expressed by Psycho Robot and apparently supported by you will never achieve consensus. Calling it misguided is putting it mildly - other people might even accuse this kind of input of trying to bring the wiki down. This is why consensus is more important than a democratic voting system - with voting, we would only need enough idiots to vote for something ridiculous to have it put into effect, regardless of merit. With consensus, it only takes one cohesive argument from one person to put paid to the lot of them. I can only hope that that will always be the case. 15:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Seriously.
Learn to read. 22:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is far more important than being a dick. You really need to stop doing this. 23:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This. It's totally irrelevant. Also, "Big fan of free speech here" is not constructive at all. If you were more polite and just said per all I wouldn't mind but you need to take control of yourself and know what you're doing. 23:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently I did misunderstand the tone of your comment. It really isn't clear if you just put 5 words, and if you try to make it clearer next time this wouldn't happen. I'm not discussing this any more; obviously you're not liking it. 23:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

RE:Definitions
Regarding your input here, you make a valid point, but isn't this a grey area? It's hardly practical to generate a list of words that come under "mild swearing", "offensive swearing", etc. How do you propose this be fixed? The only solution I can come up with is that things are taken by case-by-case basis, and guidelines are purposely vague. 06:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

RE:
Oh, the edit was simply separating the some arguments into other sections, so that it'll be easier for us to discuss specifically about the proposal, not to end the discussion in any way. 06:49, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

RE:I forget what you called it
Sticking to your guns is highly overrated and leads to a lot of hate. The only excuse for doing so without end is if your opponent has a completely illogical or dangerous argument, which you did not. There were no mavericks fighting bravely against the opposition in that thread, there were only a bunch of stubborn people refusing to budge an inch even when it was clear they should. 14:52, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

So i herd u liek image caches updating in a timely fashion
I saw on FIMG that you were having trouble getting your image to update after uploading a new version. Quarenon has a lovely script called "Toolbox Purge" that fixes this problem quite nicely. 17:38, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * The purge button appears on the left hand toolbar, under the "Contact administrators" button. 23:21, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work 100% of the time, but it does work an awful lot of the time. 00:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Annoying message.
This message is inserted only if you have a line containing  in your monaco.js or monobook.js files. If you have removed it and still see the message, then you are using a cached version of your monaco.js or monobook.js file. The server-based caches cannot be cleared manually and can take several minutes before they update. -- 18:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it still happening? I'd think the cache would have cleared by now  -- 04:47, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

AGF
I think I did AGF when I unstruckout the comments, but I really felt the need to offer my opinion of it.--Degenret01 00:19, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

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What is the ventrilo name?
I saw that you made a ventrilo server for the R S Wikia clan chat. What is the name? we can't say it in the clan chat because the censor blocks it. can you tell me the name please?--Ganonator 02:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was a while back and I am not sure if it is still up. user:Karlis Was the one paying for it, if its still up he would be the one to ask. 05:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fire cape
So I browse recent changes a lot and I saw your user page. I noticed you have a fire cape now. Cool. Good job! How did you take care of the healers? Do they still get distracted easily? or do you need to kill them now? 04:11, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Congratulations on the cape! 16:43, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

do you think..
do you think its a good argument to suggest that viewing the cache may not be against the rules? it certainly sounds promising if we were to convince ppl of that, but id be surprised if we could- do you think we can?

also, i was thinking of bring up the rule that we follow jagex's rules, and suggesting that rather we do not encourage anything that could hurt another player/get action taken against your account. would u support that? 13:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Cache
I will only support when only images of unreleased items are put on one article, having just their number and stuff one it, no speculation and strict guidelines about what to put on therer and what not. I don't even want to support it, but I think it's better for the wiki. I'm very tempted to stay with my strong oppose. 19:33, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * clicky 19:38, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

could u..
could you add "zarchillis" ingame? its me and i would like to discuss some cache stuff if you dont mind. thanks for the support during the discussion so far, btw. 01:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

problem is, anybody can see this. but whatever. what u think we should do now? 01:58, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

so what do you suggest? that we ask a jmod again using more clear language? finding a jmod is hard enough, much less actually having a conversation with 1 without the mod being distracted by the other ppl who will come, and even if all that works who says the mod will know about the subject? 02:04, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

i dont like asking questions. i would much prefer to be able to talk with a mod in game- what if they mention banning, or other obvious lies/mistakes? 02:12, April 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Because the mods in game are usually customer support or management ones and not actually involved technically with the game it is likely that they will follow the way of mod crowe and simply repeat what they have been told from the rules. The problem I see with this is that you will never get 1 on 1 time with a mod in game and by the time you explain it they will 1-line your answer and move on and the rest of the community will never hear a different answer and always use it for their opposition. So unless you can get face time with a technically involved mod like Mod Andrew or someone else that claims to be technically involved, I wouldn't recommend trying it. 02:16, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * still- what if jagex is to reply to your response saying something about banning for this, thus making an obvious mistake? will u still take the response seriously? oh, and can u at least add me 2morrow 2 help me with using the cache? assuming u do/can use it. 02:57, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I saw you are planning to send a letter about the rsmv. While I have no opinion on the topic itself, just know that I still never received a response for my letter and it's been over 10 weeks. I've pretty much given up hope on a response, so yeah. 03:07, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't saying don't try, I was saying don't get your hopes up, then have them crushed if a response isn't received. 03:40, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

could you explain..
could u explain on the cache article why u feel the rsmv is not against the rules? i explained it from my side, but i remember you having additional information about it and it would be great if u could post. thanks 00:20, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Really
I do know they were advised by one of our Pmods here that the discussion was underway (the last one) and they asked the mod to keep them apprised of the outcome. That is what I believe I know. Whether he will keep them updated, or what they would do if it passes, are things I could only guess at. For the purpose of ***** and giggles, I would guess at most they would demand we remove an of the pics from the viewer that we post. But that and $2 will get you a cup of coffee.--Degenret01 04:04, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

re:a litte too far
i thought that was my role in the argument, but whatever. i have no problem with u telling me what 2 do, as long as the orders are sensible and help our cause. if you want me to stop and talk about something else i will, though im not sure what that something else would be. 21:34, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Re: X
Unfortunately it's under a section that hides all posts automatically, I will take a ss of my question and them merge them. Give me a sec. 01:03, April 10, 2010 (UTC) (dont ask about the sig.


 * Evidently it hides your own posts from you.
 * :::Heres teh qfc : 103-104-1-60722589 page 54-55

I asked (paraphrased, but mostly exact):
 * I dont know exatly where to put this, but where can I ask a JMod for advice about an issue we are having?
 * And if you have a few minutes could you read (link to the page)?
 * It would be great to have an Official statement (or just an employees take on the matter).
 * The debates starting to heat up ^^
 * ~H

RE: Item compare idea
Yep, that's doable -- 17:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Phoenix Lair FIMG
Unfortunately, I have closed the due to RS:FIMG nomination guidelines. It was a nice surprise to see a blast from the past, though. I hope you stick around