User talk:Robert Horning

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Exchange Watch
Brill idea, it will allow me to keep track of my most favourite resource, runes, i buy alot of runes on the exchange as I'm 93 magic atm going for 99 so this is brilliant for me. 12:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the support. This is going to be a HUGE project to get everything up and going, but I think it will be worth it.  Some parts are going to be much more active than others (like runes), but I think on the whole it will be worth it.  --Robert Horning 12:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Exchange pages
Um...What are you doing? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 18:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see Grand Exchange Market Watch/Runecrafting to see how they are being used. I have a few thoughts about how they might be incorporated into item pages as well, but the purpose is to allow one editing point for data such as what the current Grand Exchange Price of the item is, but allow them to be displayed in multiple places.  Such as listing the tiaras under runecrafting and crafting pages at the same time.
 * I'm using "Exchange" as a psuedo namespace to transclude the content onto the Market Watch pages. If the Wikidata extensions were in place here, I'd use that instead, but MediaWiki software just isn't up to the task without transclusions being used in the fashion I'm using here.  --Robert Horning 19:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I won't pretend I have a clue what you just said. But can't you just use the Template: namespace? Using Exchange: keeps it all in the mainspace. Which is wrong...obviously. By the way, why don't you come on the IRC? There's a few people there... JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  19:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not IRC? I hate using the **** software.  OK, not quite so harshly, but it just isn't my cup of tea to get on IRC channels.... and it is (for me) a time waster of phenomenal proportions.
 * As far as why not simply using templates.... I guess it is a personal preference. It would be comparatively trivial to rename the pages into the template namespace, but I was hoping to keep from flooding the "Template" namespace with so many pages that you would miss out on what really are templates.  Yes, I know I can do "Template:Exchange/" as the prefix to the page names instead of using "Exchange:".  There are some advantages in terms of how you set up the Robot.txt file for this Wiki (something Wikia or the computer equipment supervisors will do...not an admin function) to have a seperate namespace for stuff like this, but that is getting pretty deep into Wiki administration.  Quite literally every item page is going to be duplicated as a template in some fashion or another like this, so it would be easier to scan for different kinds of problems with some of the Wiki administration tools going this route.
 * I'm willing to do the page moves if you think it is necessary, but I'd like to get a second opinion on that before I make the change. Especially if it all has to be undone sometime later when it will be even harder to accomplish.  That is why this is just a test page to see if there are any complaints/concerns about how I'm setting this up, and it is understandable that what I'm doing here is pushing the envelope in terms of what MediaWiki software can accomplish.  There will be quite a bit more that I will be putting into this project if I get a green light to continue, so I want to resolve your concerns here.  --Robert Horning 00:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You know we only get to make two extra namespaces? We've used one already, so if you get someone to make the Exchange: namespace, that's it, we've used them all. Forget it...I'll leave you and your scary project alone. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  09:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm... I hadn't read this before... I suppose I'll stop adding stuff to this GE market watch until a final decision is taken about this. 09:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That is a real problem. Here is a volunteer who wants to join in here and help out, but is getting pounded on by a long-time user.  I simply don't understand why this isn't done in a much more public forum than on the user talk page of a brand new (relatively speaking) user to this project that nobody is paying attention to.  If this is a problem, bring the issue up on the thread about the exchange list than to keep flaming me here.  --Robert Horning 12:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not flaming, and this page is a public as any other. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  20:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd just like to say that the "Exchange:" namespace is nonexistant, so your "Exchange: " pages are actually in the mainspace, which kind of defeats the purpose of the namespace addition.
 * Also, you appear to be putting templates in these pages. That means they should be going in the already-existant "Template:" namespace. I love the idea of this, but you're going about it the wrong way. Oddlyoko talk 19:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also: urk! You're definitely going about it the wrong way. Why are you using templates like this on Grand Exchange Market Watch/Runecrafting? Just make a table and update prices from the page itself. Not only is it _far_ cleaner, it also cleans up Recent Changes considerably when you're updating prices. Oddlyoko talk 19:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)