Talk:Dominion Tower

Chronozon - Mass experience?
Hello, my friends. I was thinking about how Chronozon is only killable when weakened by all four elemental spells. (Otherwise, he'll merely heal when he gets to low health.) Don't you think that someone could take advantage of this and not weaken him, and instead just him as a source of AFKable experience for their chosen combat style? Of course, they would have to be able to tank them, and he is rather high in combat. Perhaps they would be able to safe-spot him, with ranged, mage, or a halberd? Not sure if there are safe-spots in the Tower. Anyway, please discuss. (Also, just wondering - how many elemental and catylic runes does the Tower supply you with when faced with him?)
 * Well, there was an update to limit the number of times you can do that (or the total exp gain) to certain monsters in the Tower, so it shouldn't be much of a problem anymore. Believe it or not, it's just me... 01:31, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Whos do you want to appear?
What bosses do you think will be here from the release? Ma? im hoping for Nomad at the very least. That way we can practice certain straegys to our hearts content. what do you think? Primal Link 15:51, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's the ones we picked from the few polls they made. Like Elvarg...and I forgot the others. I think Nomad was also picked though. 15:53, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * well if they say around 50, and i have done my fair share of quest (300+ qps) i think they may include every boss monster. 13:52, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Elvarg and Nomad were chosen to reappear, all the other polls came out as "None of the above" 14:07, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean practice certain strategies? I thought the quest bosses were only unlocked in the tower if you've already beaten them. 03:53, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

if its being released after runefest that means its being released on october 31...which is definitly not right.
 * They said "Last week of October", but they also said that people attending RuneFest get to play it on test servers as a sneak peek. 21:29, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the exact wording was "very end of the month", and as there's only one day left in the month after runefest, where the sneak peek is being given, it's pretty obvious when the tower will be released. 13:53, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Dominion Tower Location
With the bot nuke update today the world map was also updated. To the west of the Bandit Camp in the desert there is now an island with a large circular area which I think could be the tower. Like the media image it is surrounded by sand and water which also suggests this. Does anyone else agree? 22:33, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Rock Island Prison. Xhanort7 11:37, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Concept art and Media image
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/325/dominiontower.png

Just pointing this out. This small concept art seems to have been left off the page for some reason despite being in the Oct. BTS.Xhanort7 19:19, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Dominion Tower Face
I think it may be alive. Xhanort7 19:27, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that would be cool indeed, if it could move! But if it is alive, it'll probably be a stationary sort of alive, like Spirit Trees. 04:18, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Om nom! 04:20, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Battlefield
I'm having a discussion woth someone on the runescape forums, he sais the battlefield seen on the picture with the demon is an Zarosion symbol, i think it isn't. Can someone please say i'm right? or aren't I?:p
 * The Zaros symbol has an X in the middle. The pattern on the floor doesn't. 22:08, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rewards?
What rewards has everyone gotten so far? I have gotten xp book, adamant bolts, dagganoth bones, runite bolts, adamant bolts, blood runes, soul runes, death runes, big bones, rune arrows, adamant arrows, scorpion meat and the dom potions. Shinydarkrai94 16:59, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wow I did the chicken special event and got really crappy xp for wasting a full inventory of saradomin brew =/. Shinydarkrai94 17:18, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

I've gottten a Dominion crossbow (90 Range, I can't use it), upgrade to the Dom medallion, dragon bones, big bones, Dom emotes unlocked, in addition to the stuff listed above. I'll check again when I get back to the game, but that was about it. JAGZIMA 21:31, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yea I've gotten most of those. I've also gotten a journal page after completing endurance. Has anyone else gotten other pages from other modes? Shinydarkrai94 21:33, November 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I did a handful of the climbing rounds, and I haven't gotten any journal pages at all yet. Do they appear in your inventory or reward box, or do you pick them up off the arena floor? Are they easy to miss? Eager minds are listening with sharp ears and baited breath! JAGZIMA 21:54, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I haven't got one yet. Even with 165 boss kills, not one journal page yet. 03:22, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm I have no idea. I thought it was related to the fact that I got my first dominion weapons when I got my journals. The first one I got from the reward box after beating 30 rounds of endurance. The second I got from the reward box after getting past round 15 in climber mode. Still not half of the pages though so it might just be random. Shinydarkrai94 03:25, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - Just listing what I got from 84 floors in Endurance (519,442 DF):

• 62 Scorpion meat

• 30 Dom super antipoison (full)

• 45 Nature runes

• 30 Rune arrow

• 11 Dagannoth bones

• 20 Dragon bones

• 5 Dom super prayer (full)

• 10 Runite bolts

• 1 Super restore (full)

• 10 Death runes

• 10 Adamant bolts

• 1 Adamant arrow

• 1 Blood rune

• Xp book

• Dominion crossbow

• Dominion crossbow

Got the options of:

• 98,834 Attack

• 92,910 Strength

• 86,674 Defence

• 47,702 Prayer

• 90,416 Magic

• 73,580 Ranged

• 92,910 Constitution

From the Book of XP (Xp book). Other useful information may be that I only used magic during the Chronozon floors, ranged on the Dag Mother/Gelan, melee for rest of floors. Another contributing factor might be levels in the combat skills, being 98, 95, 94, 95, 99, 90 and 97 respectively. 03:22, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Orb tricks
The ceiling of the arena itself seems to be rather high, while the spectator's circle has a lower roof. The "quit" chain, (the one with the hook on it) seems to extend upward the highest. Going out side the tower, you can go up and down the walls, but if you go too far you plunge into an abyss. Anyone tried a sextant yet? ;) JAGZIMA 21:45, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Strategies/Data
It seems to me that the fastest/most cost-effective way to get dominion points is to play endurance mode focusing on melee, but with ranged and magic armor/weapons in inventory (for the dagannoth mother and chronozon). If using a Dominion Crossbow, it would be expected to last around 200 kills (using only on the dagannoth/gelatinnoth mother). There is no need for food except in emergencies, so you could fill the rest of your inventory with 4-8 Scorpion meat, 4-8 Dominion Super Prayers, 3-5 Super Antifires, 2 Overloads, and a Spec Weapon (Dragon Claws are best). The Super Prayers are used against Koshei the Deathless (drink a dose right after he drains your prayer), the Super Antifires against Elvarg (drink a dose before going in), and the Overloads against Karamel (drink a dose as soon as you get hit by the "Semolina-Go" attack). It is a good idea to bring along a pair of ice gloves to kill Flambeed and his counterpart, but if you forget them, you can easily range-and-run. A combat familiar can attack Flambeed normally, so if you have an Iron/Steel Titan he can often be killed by the familiar alone while you kill the other two enemies. At the start of each battle, activate turmoil/piety and the appropriate protection prayer and most bosses will fall quickly. A combat familiar will provide a small boost on multicombat battles, but is by no means necessary.

With this setup, you can get about 50 wins per hour which, for me (combat lvl 137, maxed melee, 99 Magic, 95 Prayer, 93 Ranged, 95 Summoning) yields about 300k dominion factor per hour. Again, based on my levels, this yields around 60k melee exp or 30k prayer exp per hour, which is hardly "generous", but I suppose the other rewards are worth it. Is everyone getting around 6k dominon factor per win in Endurance mode after round 30, or is it based on combat lvl/quest points?

Also, I've fought over 200 battles in Endurance mode and never gotten Nomad, Decaying Avatar, or any other difficult boss (the hardest have been some of the RFD bosses), so I'm thinking they only come in Climber mode.

The drop rate for a Dominion crossbow seems to be about 1/30 or 1/40, based on 5 crossbows gotten. I'll update once I unlock a Dominion sword & staff, but I would assume they have the same drop rate.

The unique consumable Dominion Rewards include the following:

-Dom Saradomin Brew

-Dom Super Prayer

-Dom Super Antipoison

-Dom Super Restore

-Scorpion Meat

These all have the same effect as their "real-world" counterparts (scorpion meat heals 220), but only have two doses rather than four.

Players also receive a fair number of bones, including big bones, dagannoth bones, and dragon bones. They also received blood, death, and soul runes as well as adamant/rune arrows and bolts. It does not appear that these rewards are related to the monsters fought/gear used, as I have gotten adamant bolts/arrows despite using only rune bolts, and I've gotten far more dragon bones than Elvarg kills. Similarly, I have received blood, death, and soul runes despite not using any runes whatsoever.

Interestingly, the reward books are bankable, so players could theoretically get dozens of reward books now, and then save them until their skill levels are higher, so that they get better exp.

152.3.68.8 14:36, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, I use essentially the same strategy. Thanks for the tips, especially about the reward books. I didn't think of that. Also, I get roughly 6x xp as well. Shinydarkrai94 20:27, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can get "Class A" bosses in Endurance. When I first started playing it I did an Endurance run, floor 21 Zenevivia showed up and slaughtered me -.-

Clickable Table for handicaps
Handicaps seems to be in the same order every game. Should we make a table like the penguin locations so you can tick off which handicaps you already have, so you can see to which one the nudge goes?

Order:

Poison

Reduced Ranged Defence

No Power-ups

No potions

Life Saver

Reduced Melee attack

No shield

No food

Reduced Melee defence

Random freeze

Life points halved

No body armour

Reduced ranged attack

No familiar

Monster stun

No prayers

Slippery fingers

Reduced magic attack

Disease

No special attacks

Reduced magic defence

Random daze

  Thojohn22 Talk HS Thojohn22 (HS)  15:54, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Very good idea. I think we should also have a strategy section and place it under that. Shinydarkrai94 20:26, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

References/Trivia
Does the "fight music" (and style of the tower) remind anyone else of The Pharos in FF12?

And is it just me....or does the Strange Face seem a LOT like the MCP from Tron?

Max floors
Well it's kinda interesting..the max floors you can do in endurance is 256 (I have it on video), but when you put out your marker, it says that you've done 250. Interesting glitch. Also, for those who are wondering, you stop getting dominion factor around round 165 so it's extremely wasteful to go up to 256 (like me). Shinydarkrai94 04:45, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Endurance points
I kept track of the points that I got after 30 rounds of endurance. Once you get the reduced rate, you will get the following amount of points for these bosses (note: I don't have all of them because I haven't done all of the quests):

Delrith: 5962

Bear thingy: 5965

Black Knight Titan: 5980

Solus Dellagar: 5981

Melzar: 5983

Giant Scarab: 5983

Elvarg: 5987

Evil chicken: 6006

Treus Dayth: 6007

Barrelchest (the first one): 6015

Count Draynor: 6022

Cook guy: 6026

Ice demon: 6041

Dagganoth mother (original): 6050

Dramen tree spirit: 6052

Agrith naar: 6052

Giant bird: 6060

Inadequacy: 6060

Deathless guy: 6080

Draugen: 6084

Flambeed and the others: 6085

Chronozoan: 6090

Aarg: 6095

Dad: 6096

Shinydarkrai94 05:41, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Definition of "Boss" for rewards?
Has anyone been able to tell if winning the matches against like the 4 Desert Treasure bosses counts as just "1" toward Boss Kill Count or do they count as "4"?

Bosses that have more then 1 boss still count as only 1 (Tested on Dagganoth Sentinals, 4 DT Guys and Gelentoth mother+Karamel) ~Elfangor

Voice acting sound clips
I only just came to the tower just to see and was already astounded by the voice of the face, I could record each one (and probably each boss within) and upload on here if enough people wanted to me to, or if it would abide copyrights and the like. Savvy? 20:08, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Indigestion special task
Does anyone have a strategy for this? I don't know what I'm missing here, but I keep getting destroyed in this challenge. It's the last one left for me, I've already done double Nomad and all the others, but this one is being very problematic for me. It's the one where you fight all RFD bosses at once with all the handicaps.

Hint
I found the "Hint: Staff of light and Enhanced Excalibur specials still work" given in the page did me no good. Died pretty quick the times I tried. Uffa 64 23:58, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

its pretty bad but the best way i found to do the task was to wear melee gear (torags and neitz) with a sol (spec'd) and used brews as i maged the monsters in this order: Karamel, Dessourt, Culromancer, Flambeed, Agrith Na-na, then the gellatini dagganoth. once u kill the culromancer, switch to melee pray ASAP. had to use brews and restores. reason for that order: karamel freezes you and drains your stats (Defense especially), dessourt uses mage, melee, and ranged, culromancer is the last mage guy, flambeed sometimes does a special where he hurts you for (i think) up to 200 damage with magical fire. agrith nana is the last meleer and then i swap to range prayer and take care of the dagannoth. this method barely worked for me as i had no brews left and half health when i was done with the mages. luckily the dagannoth missed a lot. my stats were 99 magic, 92 def, 94 constitution. wear ice gloves too. 00:36, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nomad on Climber and Endurance
Does anyone have any advice/insight converning the rarity of getting Nomad? I've killed 369 bosses and have not saw him once. I've done a mixture of Endurance/Climber.

I've also heard through the grapevine that killing him in the Special match will count for the Goliath gloves, is this true? Cyan Lights

-- Before the hotfix that put Nomad in Climber and Endurance (he wasn't in them at all before 11/3), defeating him in the special challenge did not count, but with the update, yes the double Nomad challenge counts for the gloves now.

Update: Confirmed that it is possible to get Nomad on Endurance. He did whoop me good, but I got the pleasure of halving his health first. Cyan Lights

Mortal Kombat
Okay... okay... This place sounds to me like the "Challenge Tower" from MK9... 07:46, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

It does seem incredibly mortal kombat-esque, even the original mortal kombat storyline involved fighting through the ranks (set against a mountain backdrop) in order to reach the top for Shao Kahn. 182.239.214.96 12:45, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Its kinda funny, the strange face also looks like the Demon Doors out of Fable xD Cyan Lights 22:43, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Other bosses
Just a listy of bosses not present in the Tower. This is so much... there MUST be a Batch 2. 10:50, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reese, Kayle and Caitlin. (...)
 * Skeleton warlock
 * Sir Leye
 * Tolna
 * H.A.M. Archer and H.A.M. Mage
 * Gadderanks and two Vampyre Juvinates
 * Skeleton Hellhound
 * Baby Roc (add to Giant Roc fight)
 * Slug Prince
 * Banshee Mistress and Insectoid assassins
 * King Roald
 * Slash Bash
 * Bandos avatar
 * Tanglefoot
 * General Bre'egth, General Shredflesh, General Gromblod, eight Ork warriors and the Fairy Godfather
 * Khazard scorpion and Khazard ogre (add to Bouncer fight)
 * Ice Troll King
 * Three super warped terrorbirds
 * Giant Sea Snake
 * Evil spirit
 * Nazastarool
 * Fire Warrior of Lesarkus
 * Vanstrom Klause
 * Barrelchest Mk II
 * Giant scarab (Dealing with Scabaras)
 * Nial Swiftfling
 * Glod
 * Colonel Grimsson
 * Sea Troll Queen (aided by the Sea Troll General?)
 * Mightiest turoth, Monstrous cave crawler, Basilisk boss and Kurask overlord team-up
 * Bouncer (ghost)
 * Snothead, Snailfeet, Mosschin, Redeyes and Strongbones team-up
 * Also, the Camelot training room knights aren't there yet:
 * Sir Bedivere, Sir Pelleas, Sir Tristram, Sir Palomedes, Sir Lucan, Sir Gawain, Sir Kay and Sir Lancelot.
 * Would be epic to have to fight them all at once O_o 11:13, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * With prayer and Ice spells PLEASE. 11:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jagex confirmed they wouldn't be adding the See Troll Queen in the tower, due to the imposibility of adding water just for her. 78.20.58.150 16:37, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darn. The Romans could add water to the Colosseum... That also rules out the Sea Snake. 16:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * The above list lacks the gardener, from pirate's treasure, the black dragon from rfd, and zanik, from the chosen commander. But I assume there'll be a second batch, there has to be. PUNCHING! SOLVES! EVERYTHING! 04:28, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

toktz glitch/bug?
just faced the toktz monster from the tzhaar quest and it would not stop using the spec no matter what i did it would continue to spec hitting me for max every time (240) praying melee seemed to do nothing and hitting it with a pickaxe on crush also did nothing though i was so busy having to heal i didnt get a chance to see if i broke through its armour or not i dont know if this is a bug or an intended feature but it hardly seems fair :S 86.172.20.188 17:14, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

- As with the normal boss, you shouldn't use melee protect. It's what triggers his special attack.

oh right its been a few years and i just read on the summary before i faced it that it attacked using melee not that protect from melee triggered it 86.172.20.188 06:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

- I also noticed that if you use a crush weapon other than the pick before the armour is broken he pwns you pretty bad. Using the pick seems to be more effective as well even after the armour is broken. Odd. 182.239.214.96 12:48, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Chosen Commander unnecessary
According to the rs kb chosen commander isnt required for dominion tower, not sure how to delete it without leaving a gap in the list of quests, anyone with a bit more editing experience want to do it?

-o11y217
 * No Bandos Avatar, no Chosen Commander. Away with it! Thanks for mentioning. 19:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * The Sigmund boss fight is from The Chosen Commander (combat level 75) and not from Another Slice of H.A.M. (combat level 64).
 * Ah. Added again. 07:11, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stat Drains/Stat draining enemies
It should be noted that against enemies like Karamel or when diseased that if you are wearing your Dominion Medallion and take it off, if you put the medallion back on your stats are reboosted, if your stats are lowered still, you can just take off the medallion and put it back on again until your stats are back up.

Music
Erm, were these tracks added with the "One Piercing Note" update? After spending the weekend here the music track list has been playing nameless songs for the tower... 04:59, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Problems
Noticed a few problems and glitches with the tower so far
 * 1) When using lunar magic and being provided the standard spellbook *temporarily* for chronozon, it can flip it over permanently. Accordingly, it is helpful to set aside a fair amount of time for the tower to avoid having to change back and forth constantly.
 * 2) If you need inventory space to pick up another item such as silverlight or balmung, any item you drop *can* disappear before the end of the battle. If it's an antifire shield and you face Elvarg without an equivalent replacement, you may as well quit that run as 99 stats are dropped to 40 and the firebreath attack is possible from a distance.
 * 3) As mentioned in the main article, the journal pages are best obtained through 1-boss fights in climber mode which completely defeats the purpose. Over 100 consecutive bosses in climber mode resulted in zero pages, and it seems unlikely that more than one page can be obtained at once.
 * 4) It is possible to get the same boss twice in a row, although I've yet to have one three times in a row. I presume this is the reason why lower level fights such as Argg and Black Knight Titan are far more common than others such as Zenevivia and Nomad.
 * 5) The reward in Endurance mode stops increasing after floor 29 and stops altogether around 150, which is fairly pathetic since it is quite possible to reach over the 200 mark. Hopefully this will change through the addition of further bosses in the future.
 * 6) When encountering a formidable boss such as Pest Queen in endurance mode, it seems that you are far more likely to get the Pest Queen a second and third time in that run, as opposed to one of the higher level bosses. 182.239.214.96 13:02, November 30, 2011 (UTC)