User talk:The Fizzbuzzler/2010/September

YG threads
Just so you know, you should leave YG threads open for at least a week, regardless of how many supports/opposes it has. The only exceptions to this guideline come when a) the thread deals with a very urgent manner, and all or most of the users who commented are on board, b) the nominator withdraws, or c) the nomination is asking for something blatantly wrong that it isn't worth the time to do a discussion. As for the Charm log proposal, you shouldn't close it yet. If you wanted to be bold and add the charm log code without a discussion, no one is going to argue with you. But, with a proposal written and under discussion, just wait for it to finish. It's not like this is urgent or anything. 22:48, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Delete book contents
I should also mention that all of our Lores pages violate copyright, as they contain stuff copied directly from the RS website. I created FromWebsite a long time ago to deal with that (check the pages that link to that template). However, all the stuff that we put on Template:Updates is also a violation of copyright, and I cannot delete the content from Lores without deleting the content from Template:Updates. Though we do have a consensus dealing with this, I think another YG discussion is a better if we are to remove both. The other option is to turn a blind eye to the updates (since they are popular) and just remove the Lores content. Your thoughts? 00:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, then. I'll get around to removing the content and replacing with links to the lores soon. However, we will have an issue with page history. I really don't want to delete every revision with the lores in them, but without doing it, it's like leaving the stuff there. What about that technicality? 00:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Kevorkian
Admittedly, I enjoy the discussions; I like researching, and making arguments, and phrasing counter-arguments. That isn't to say I'm not completely serious about them, but there's no harm in enjoying a good argument. Leftiness 03:04, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blinking Stop Sign.gif
what was that i dont even... -- 19:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Did you know...
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad40/Bluesonic43/Misc/Topeditors.png

Per wikia.com and the lackluster Corporate theme. =P 03:03, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lol
Lols, have a look at the recent changes page? - 13:35, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh. Btw, what is that page actually for? - 13:40, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Inv icons
I managed to download them though my computer froze up =P come to the lobby, clan chat 13:43, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

What?
Did you not like my reasoning or something?  02:29, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's alright. Wikia fails like this quite frequently. 02:34, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks 02:36, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, FIMG nominations have dropped sharply since your proposal was implemented. :O 01:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * * opposes them all* Just kidding. But seriously, I think that the proposal was fine; it's just that people aren't over the "shock"/"denial" period yet. Give them a while.  01:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
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 01:54, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can say you'll cook me a nice pineapple pizza. 01:58, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would never joke on an official page. I don't care what happens in the userspace, but keep it out of the mainspace and RuneScape space. 02:00, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I'm starting to change my tune about the FIMG rules change. If you don't mind, I'll do a bit more research and then decide if I will start a proposal to remove the rule. 20:03, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There have been a total of two nominations since the rule was implemented, both of them for replacement. In the two week period prior to your proposal being implemented, there were a total of 4 new nominations, 5 nominations for replacement, and 1 for delisting. The nominations started dropping off prior to your proposal being implemented, which I find a bit odd because I would have expected people who took the images to nominate as many as possible prior to the implementation of your thread, once it was clear that your proposal would pass. 20:10, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

"I will be on vacation until the 3rd"
...Its the 6th, are you back yet? 02:23, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither. 02:32, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Elite items
Thanks for applying transparency for the elite items! By the way, the images are from the achievement diary page from the Game Guide :P but I guess it doesn't make a difference. 21:42, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Just glad I could help :) 21:52, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Map timeline
I remember you were compiling a timeline of maps, and I came across this. I thought it was interesting. Leftiness 00:14, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

LAWL
What was this??? 00:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Primal Spear.gif
Hey Cook, I've put a speedy deletion tag on the image and it appears to link to one of your sandboxes. If u want to keep the image there, put File:Primal spear.png to where the gif version was. Thanks! :D -- 23:38, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE:User:Matthew2602/Guestbook
No you may not. 08:56, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blood tithe pouch
Hi again Cook, I see you asked Zezima0213 about the picture of the Blood tithe pouch. I've asked the same thing about a month ago, and he said "Honestly, I don't remember but i think it was a house in the south." You can find the exact quote i got here, section 32 (Blood Tithe Pouch). This could give Asparagoose a little heads up :P 18:39, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey there. I'm getting on now, what world are you fellas on? 19:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't get involved. A warning.

Aaaaah I'm ust kidding I looked and it's totally not there. 23:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

New "Template:Infobox Item"
I making templates, thanks! 01:28, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hilite
I would like to request that you put your hilite back in. The reasons for this are simple. First of all, as you know, I am a fan of consistency, and you told me that you are also. Consistency means that you follow the standard practice for sysops, which currently is having a green hilite. There is a second reason that applies for you exclusively. It deals with your AWB edits. Though I would be happier if you voluntarily took your AWB edits to a separate AWB account (Azaz has told me that the AWB account gets sysopped automatically if you request it), even if you did the problem of you overflowing the RC still remains, as you're a very quick editor. So, it would be massively helpful if I and others can see you in the RC easily. If your name is the same color as the surrounding text, this not the case and it's difficult to see your name clearly. A hilite would solve that. So, please add your hilite back in. 02:33, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Liquidhelium: You have a personal css page... use it. 02:51, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whilepersonalnal CS would solve the problem on the RC, I'd like more people to be able to benefit from this. Furthermore, a personal CSS doesn't solve the issue of consistency. The only reason that he got me mad at him way back in May was because, and I quote, "I dgaf as long as it's consistent". I'd like to see the same consistency principle applied here. 02:57, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

noooo!!!111
bad hilite@@@ - btw hai 13:58, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
User:24.193.140.230 is currently going round, vandalising pages. What is the correct way to report someone of this?

Also, could you look into it & block them. Thanks 14:57, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Transparency thingy
If I can do that, I would gladly do it, but http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9950/attemptwhitespace.png this happens when I try and put a white background (except weilding/wearing images, which I have no problem with). And Photoshop is expensive O_O 17:16, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Permission from Jagex
As I've said nearly since the beginning, Jagex has the right to tell others how to use their work, as is shown in Section 106. However, many people here seem to have a hard time believing that I actually want what's best for the wiki, so those who are vehement on the issue wouldn't back down until I had completely cornered them - at least in my opinion. While it isn't required that Jagex post a document saying that they're amenable to giving out permission, they did just so in the rules for fansites, so it seems accepted by all that permission would solve some of our problems.

To be specific: if Jagex does give us the permission that Mark has asked for, I expect it will be permission to unfairly use content so long as we cite Jagex as the owners, which would solve every possible legal issue that pertains to Section 106 and Section 107; anything that we've removed for not being fair use can be added back if we get the permission I expect, and that includes dialogue pages. It would also give us permission to use their images in our logo, and it would keep the book contents from being deleted. Understand that they may not give us permission to unfairly use any content so long as we cite them; their rules for fansites says they retain the right of pre-approval, so we may have to ask them about each individual issue - dialogue, books, logo, and so on. It might seem awful, but it seems we finally got through to Jagex since they've given two human responses to Mark instead of the usual, single, automated response.

Assuming we get permission to unfairly use content if we cite it correctly, the only current legal issue that I'm aware of that it wouldn't affect is the cache issue; it's an issue because of Section 1201, so Jagex would have to specifically waive their rights to DMCA protection of content. It's not impossible for them to decide to do that, but I seriously doubt it will happen, especially since they've posted that they are amenable to waiving Section 106 protection; they would post that they are willing to waive DMCA protection if they were.

Sorry for the book. Leftiness 21:15, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

AMG!!!!!
AWB LISTER WORKS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MADE A LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT FROM A TEXT FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRY IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOAR EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! 07:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism report
Special:Contributions/15_Master1 Have a look at his contribs, been reverting most of what he has done, but a ban seems in place. EDIT: keep forgetting to sign talk-posts 18:24, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's done. 18:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE: CVU
Thanks, I'll bookmark that page for future reference :D 20:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanx for the wikicape though I did not understand what the text meant   17:11, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Volume-weighted CTI
I think there are two problems with a volume-weighted CTI.


 * 1) Jagex only lists the top 100 items, which may change over time, so if an item is included one day and not another day that would make the CTI inconsistant in what it is measuring on a daily basis.
 * 2) Volume-weighted CTI (even if the volumes were known) would be very distorted. After a significant event (e.g. a game update) some items get traded a lot. The trade volume does not reflect of the quantity of the item in the game. Volume-weighted CTI would not a good measure, which is why the real life trade indexes do not weight by volume, but instead use things like Price-weighted index or Capitalization-weighted index.

There has been discussion in the past about including the volume in the Exchange pages to assist merchants in tracking the signicant movers, but the limit on the 100 highest by trade volume (and not highest by trade value) meant that it wasn't really going to be much use, so the idea got abandoned. If Jagex do ever release the trade volume information on all items, then we might be able to do something useful with it.

22:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looking at the top 50 high volume items, I'm not sure it will meet the criteria set up for item selection as specified at the top of the talk page, particularly the bit about not favouring particular skills. Going for the top 50 will exclude any crafting or herblist items, which are explicitly included in the list. In fact, I think going for high volume weighted items will mean that the CTI will very closely follow the price of nature runes, which is the only item near the top of the volume list with a value of more than a few gp (except for maybe pure essense, which itself is effected by the nature rune price). 23:15, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

FIMG
I see... Well you learn something new ever day. 20:01, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Images
there not random numbers, the dates, it a swiftkit images, meaning i can take images, and upload to wiki instantly, im makes my life easyer -- 19:18, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

3 more
i only got 3 more images, can i just upload them, next time ill name them, it becuse im doing the tut at the same time -- 19:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Video link
http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/News/MostEmailed/1024048/Wikipedias-Jimmy-Wales-new-commercial-venture/ At 2:45. 22:51, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Just Plain Win
00:37, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Instructions

 * 1) Find a Redlink for a missing Language category following the new convention (Users who speak (name of langauge), which can be found at Template:Userbox/language.
 * 2) Create the category with the sentence, "A list of users who are able to speak (name of language)."
 * 3) Add that category to Category:Users by language.
 * 4) Delete the old category.
 * 5) Repeat.

01:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Artificial edits
Can't you take it to an AWB account? You're flooding the RC. 02:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make an account called CookAWB or something like that. Ask Azaz for a bot flag. He'll give it to you. Furthermore, he said that AWB accounts are eligible for sysop tools without an RfA, since it's still the editor that's making the edits. 02:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, don't use CookBot. Something with Bot in the name implies completely automated edits, which means that a consensus is needed for a flag. The consensus only covers what was proposed, so your discussion doesn't hold much weight here, unless that's exactly what you plan to do. It's much better to just create another account with AWB in the name. 02:36, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * For the sake of simplicity, I'll give a temporary flag to cookbot (waiting for it to take affect is on you). However, I should point out, (and no one seems to have really thought about this) that unless the RS:BOT thread passes I have no basis in policy to be giving flags to anyone other than a community approved bot and in fact am going against it for the most part.-- 19:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Potion images
Indeed I would. Mind you massive batch image edits like this could take me some time to get ready. 05:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Charm data
I undid that edit. It's bad statistics to let people who kill only a few creatures add to the log. While theoretically it doesn't matter, because if everyone who killed that monster added to the log, it's true data. However, if we don't have a 50 creature limit, then people are going to add small number kills in there. The thing is, people are much more likely to add if they got a charm drop, meaning that the number of charms received will be artificially high. The people who kill a small number and get no charms are not likely to add to the list. If we have a 50 kill minimum, then it's more likely that the number of kills is closer to where it should be, though it will still report an artificially high charm drop percentage for monsters that drop charms extremely infrequently. 20:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

DBP
You seem to be able to put together a very strong and coherent argument. Would you mind writing a short essay about bureaucrats for the DBP? There are two topics left: neutrality and qualities of crats. I might scratch qualities if no one wants it, though, since it's quite an ambiguous section. 21:35, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Arrr...
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22:38, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

first
and dnt u tel me tat im teh secnd@@@ 23:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Cool
Spam. 23:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be 2nd this time. :( But I'll say FIRST! anyway. 23:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Functions
For Parser functions:
 * mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions

For String functions:
 * mw:Extension:StringFunctions

00:31, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Charm data
(I won't write Re: Charm data since technically I was the first to poke you on the subject, so it shouldn't count as replying.) I'll be happy with 25. I think that's large enough so that it's likely to weed out some of the statistically unsound edits. As for the DBP, thanks. I'll put you down as the moderator. And about 3AF, I must say that I'm very impressed. He's done quite a lot to change my initial opinion of him set when he proposed all those cache threads. There, he was extremely unprofessional and had an aura of laziness about him. Now, though I don't agree with what he's saying, I can't help but admire his excellent command of language and professionalism. He's one of only two users to significantly alter my first impression. Ajr was the other one. He started by reverting one of my edits for harassment. Then, the Ajrbot debate happened. However, after that he changed my opinion quite a bit. We have a pretty cordial nonprofessional relationship, so I'd consider him a friend. The nonprofessional part is pretty important, since we have many disagreements in our professional (aka wiki) relationship. The fact that the only communication I generally have with Degen involves some type of argument doesn't help, so I'm glad that it's only him with whom I share a mutual enmity. (For a recent scuffle, see User talk:Stelercus.)

Well, I seem to have been rambling on for a bit. I hope you'll excuse me for it. 01:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt the drama llama will show up anytime soon. Both of us know when the situation is getting out of hand and we will pull the plug on any argument we have if we feel it's necessary. Then again, even if the drama llama shows up, the loser won't really be a complete loser, as I'm sure whoever loses is going to go down fighting and cause quite a lot of havoc. (Of course, I'm hoping it's Degen, but I would say that I certainly would want to go down fighting if I lost a major argument to Degen.) 01:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3412/dramallamathumb350x3751.jpg -- 12:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Categorising
I just went through every monster page's infobox and copied down their names in text documents separated by different weaknesses, then I uploaded it to AWB and started clicking. It took a while but job done. 02:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  02:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yay!
We won the yew grove! 18:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the longer statements I made on Psycho's talk, please. I don't want to get into another debate about this. 19:34, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, it was an accident? I only saw your original revert, so I upped the protection on my userpage, citing the reasoning I put on Psycho's page. I suppose I'll let it stay that way, since it's only an hour. 19:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyways, you're forgiven. I just hope that people listen to my comments. >.<  19:42, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * What image was this a duplicate of? According to my records, we had no grey cat image previously. 20:14, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. You win this time, sir. But next time your ass is grass! 20:20, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE:RS:MAINTENANCE
I would prefer the page to retain the board layout, if you could manage to remove the link placeholder and the subpages. Otherwise, do what you want to it. 06:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the board is a very good thing, given that it allows you to see what threads you have and have not replied to. We could ask Q about possibly using a script to hide Placeholder and show only the sub page title. 06:20, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed links to template and placeholder. So we should keep the current setting. @Psycho. we dont need Q for this. I just added a "notcategory:RuneScape Projects" and "notcategory:RuneScape Wiki" But the sub-page still needs dealing with. 06:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

You can tell me
you the one who deleted 2 of the project myface user pages, can u give me any information why? did they say why, or leave a message? i just trying to find out =/ -- 13:50, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nesting
I think I fixed it... 23:20, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

CookBot
Hello Cook. Since you got your AWB account botted and sysopped before the forum is closed, you are going to have to agree to the terms and conditions found here. Please reply on my talk page so that I have some kind of documentation. Thanks, 00:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oops
I had down syndrome for about 10 mins, sorry, cleanup needed here: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Divine_spirit_shield.png-- Sadistiq 05:00, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Job to be done
Clear the Unused Photos page, OK? Could work wonders. --Coolnesse 21:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bearcatship
I'm curious. Is "bearcatship" Bureaucratship? And if it is, why are there so many spams? (Pictures I mean) 22:14, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dororan's chathead
You seem to have some matter with this chathead. You deleted it one time and now put a crop telplate on it. However when I play RS i found this chathead covers most things, except it differs slightly from normal emotion. And maybe finding a chathead with normal emotion is better than crop. 06:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Fake edits thingy
Mind if i steal the code for changing the amount of edits at the top of your userpage from you? Like usual, ill make sure it looks fake.- 11:12, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fake enough? What did psycho do? And WTF is the wikiclues thing that is on Sentra and Degen's sigs? Template:Signatures/Sentra246, Template:Signatures/Degenret01 Oh, lol, the "many users arent happy with ...." is on your SIG. - 08:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Im not copying you guys, im bagging you out =P - 07:52, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Image G
Yes, "the user who many players aren't happy with" told me that too some time ago, but i thought it should maybe better be merged still, because the images are significantly different in quality, so should be merged(to keep histories). I'm sorry, but i realize now that it doesn't meet one of the 2 criteria for ignoring RS:G. 21:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Gunnarsgrunn
I haven't done the quest so I still see "Barbarian Village"... So... I don't think every page with "Barbarian Village" needs to be replaced. 21:55, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Spam
You kinda flooded the Recent changes. Am i right you used AWB? I think that because of the same summary everytime. Could you please use User:CookBot for that? 22:03, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for experimenting with the RuneScape Wiki. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed.
 * Ah well, atleast partially quoted from Test1
 * I agree that the amount should be reduced to 2 or 3 per min. 5 is still quite a lot. 22:14, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read my talk for an angry degenret. He didn't agree with the 5 edits per min, and tried to kill the messenger...
 * Maybe, if you want to do so many edits in one time, you can use the &amp;bot=1 thing temporarily for yourself. I don't know if the edits will show up again if the thing is undone, but you will probably. I just thought of that. If this doesn't work, you should just use your bot the next time i think... 18:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Closure script
Do you know what to do with it? RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Glimmer of Light scroll is listed for closure but doesn't show on RS:CLOSURE. 22:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think hiddencat makes only the parent articles appear to have the category as I removed that and that page was given the category... weird. Perhaps we should tell wikia about this little bug. 05:02, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Wikifest
I've been busy the past few weeks with school starting, though things are getting back to normal. You can add a notice of intent saying that if there are no complains by Saturday, the fest will be considered finalized, and I will make a new page for it. 20:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Blank line
Do you still have the "== Category ==" in the 'normal settings'? If you do, you have to remove it as the normal settings supersede the advanced setting. 21:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then make a new rule with

== Category ==

and replace with nothing. This should do it. 21:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

DBP
So, it's going to open soon. Are you still up for writing that neutrality piece? 22:30, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, there's no rush. You have at least a week to do it. 00:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2008/capturelc.png

I shudder to think of what the wiki would be like without the bot flag. :O 01:29, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just a heads up... you're going to flood the RC soon if this keeps up. 19:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. That's some pretty fast editing.  19:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Cook... 21:40, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

[18:57]		Cook_ [18:57]		Still here? [18:57]	|<--	Cook_ has left freenode (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

I'll assume that means you're drinking tea. 22:58, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Template:About
Now why on earth did that happen? 06:24, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * How do I disable that rule? 00:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But the rule was never there, I had to type it up and uncheck enabled, is that meant to be a problem? 00:53, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know...
When I first view your user page, I see this. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/matthew2602/Untitled.png 09:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

You are my only hope...
How does one make an image from photobucket a link to a wiki page, specifically in a signature? 02:22, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you have the wrong picture: I have an image from photobucket, right. I want that image to also be a link to my userpage. Hao? Whar format/arrangement? 03:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

File categories?
Hey, recently (since i read Forum:Add "movefile" right to Rollback =P) i have been adding/changing file categories and doing maintenance like adding jpeg tags. Evil said you may have a slightly faster way? If you do, id love to know. - 08:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. Should images like this File:Thes Top F Frilled Blouse.PNG be in the category makeover, equipment or clothing? - 08:10, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, I was hoping it wouldn't involve AWB... I still don't really get what it does. Thanks anyway though. Sorry about the late response, didn't even noticed you had replied =P Ill also remember that with jpeg tagging. How MUCH faster is it with AWB though? Would it be worth it for me to register and download it? -  12:13, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll think about it, thanks. And what about the file in the second paragraph^? - 23:54, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, i think makeovers probably makes the most sense. I think ill go read up on AWB before i start - 00:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

That Archive Thing
Remember that consensus archive I said I would make? I forgot to tell you I already made it. 17:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * It does say on the page that anyone can add to it if they feel like it, so yes. 17:44, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I just made a few changes to MediaWiki:Uploadtext, as there was so much text no person would take the time to read it. Anything you think I should change? 17:49, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

AWB question
Hi Cook, I'd like some clarification about the nuts and bolts of AWB. When running AWB, is the user required to log out of his main account and log into the AWB account? I used to think this was the case, until Psycho told me that he is still logged onto the wiki as Psycho Robot, even when running edits on Hedonism Bot. Or, is the scenario something more along the lines of the AWB program logs onto the AWB account, and the internet browser (whatever that may be) is still logged onto the main account? 19:18, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * IRC please. 20:59, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would disagree somewhat there. I'd say that a hilite color is fine if one can immediately tell what group the account belongs to when it's by itself. For example, if I gave you User:QBot by itself, you can immediately tell that it's a bot. The bot group is sufficiently different from the other two that it's not a big issue. As for the helper and staff colors, I don't like them either. Stelercus changed helper from pink because Tedjuh didn't like it. I asked him about this (leaf through his talk page or its archives), but since we're more or less out of colors, I don't see what else there is to do. Stelercus claims that we might as well have helper be a similar color as staff, since the two are more or less similar (both are Wikia employees). 23:30, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is the color #FFCC00 available(or #FFFF00, but that might be too bright)... 13:10, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or #0077FF (they can change user rights so they are like crats) or #006400 (they are admin-like too) 13:24, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or FF4400, a totally new color... 17:19, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Told you!
I told you something like this would happen! 19:01, September 26, 2010 (UTC) 19:01, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Changing the logo
I really think we should start working on the logo now. We've been procrastinating for over a week and it's evident there is no alternative to first round polling. I suggest you create the poll and start the selection process. Even though the fruits of our labour are going to be rendered useless by the new skin... Good luck, 02:39, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think the best method of choosing we have is basically polling (your idea?), then selecting the top 20? (multiple editor's ideas) logos and cutting it down from there on (Leftiness' idea) until we have one proposal against the current logo (my modification + your change). 02:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Probably so, but what are we going to do with all our work? 03:39, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * You might as well close the thread now. We can discuss the new "wordmark" on another thread. 03:54, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

hai
use awb or summin ur spamming up teh changes place. 18:41, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * @@@@@@@@greed. -- 18:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Calsidiu
I actually don't know anything about the character. I probably did the quest 4 or 5 years ago, and I wasn't really paying too much attention at the time either. Typically, in a situation like this, I would go on YouTube and watch videos of the quest to see if I could find anything. That's partially what I did with the Gnome Liaison Officer page, and it really payed off. 00:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

User:Cook Me Plox/Wiki-navigation
Is the Oasis navigation bar customisable now? 04:32, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Documentation
Is there a possibility a bot places |sub or |ubx behind it, after modifying the template, so it shows the template like it is on a non-subpage? for example, place sub instead of Documentation. This won't need complex code, exept something like I hope you can either do this with awb, or let User:QBot or some other bot do this. I leave it to you, as you said you would do all the work in Forum:Userbox Proposal 09:28, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Marionettes
I think it would be better if you reversed the axises. I.E. the group titles are red green and blue, and each state is listed three times. Also instead of usable I think it'd read better as "finished" or "completed". Kthxbai. 09:03, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Edittttt
I see your edits. You are adding a group to these articles? What group do you add? Are you working on a project? Can i help?

10:04, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * What on earth are you doing up at this time? It's 3 AM on the Pacific coast. 10:10, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * 12:10 At GMT +1. I am at work lol. Quite boring here so im on the wikia. 10:12, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's 6:15 AM and I'm getting ready to go to school. *yawns* 10:14, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Custom namespaces
We are limited to 2 namespaces according to the help page. Just thought you should know. 21:04, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That Help page says 3 right at the top?  22:04, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wordmark
Tell me what you think. 20:30, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6820/wordmark.png http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9005/96129717.png

I made two more variants. http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8483/naturejo.png

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7927/runes.png

Thoughts? 03:11, October 1, 2010 (UTC)