Talk:Money making guide/Archive 5

Tormented demons guide
Could someone consider a guide for tormented demons please? Their dragon limbs are worth more than any pair of glacor boots, and are about as common I believe. Logialian (talk) 06:48, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's definitely one that I'm considering...it's just a question of what the rarity of the limbs are. Is it 1/300? 1/1000? It makes a huge difference, if tormented demons are 60 kills per hour then it's the difference between 4m an hour and a little over 1m an hour. 07:03, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

GWD
What about Solo Guides to God Wars Dungeons Bosses?
 * Those should be coming soon. 03:05, September 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Is there an ETA on this? Would really love to see them :D 95.94.80.218 17:38, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Especially Nex solos: I was able to kill around 4 per hour and came to an average of 11m coins/hr and 2,4-2,5m coins/kill on average. This should definitely be regarded as a mmg for very experienced players with max stats and max gear. Frenzy Tree (talk) 13:58, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Automaton Tracers and Generators
Shouldn't the guide Killing Automaton Guardians be written for all types of automaton? (BTW, the gloves the Guardians drop are currently worth the least.) Logialian (talk) 08:35, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Kill rates are fastest with Guardians. We are thinking about making guides for the others, but maybe not. 18:24, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hunting polar kebbits
It's shown as mem only. Its F2p now Darklighte (talk) 11:15, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hey guys! The new moneymaking guide is spectacular! It's really amazing. However, I strongly suggest we keep the skill-specific moneymaking guides. I find them to be really useful when I want to train a skill but prioritize making money over the experience, so I use them all the time. I hope you guys keep them!

99.117.173.34 18:32, September 16, 2013 (UTC)(FieryWhisper)

Drinking Wine:

 * A jug of Wine cost 60 at GE
 * A Jug cost 243

So drinking the wine gives you a profit of 183.

You can drink about 1 wine/sec, you also have to go to the bank every 28th second, if you use 3 secounds in the bank you can drink 3251 wines pr hour, which gives you a profit of 595'116/hour:

winesPrHour(wineTime, bankTime) = 60^2 / (wineTime + bankTime/28)

winesPrHour(1,3) = 60^2 / (1 + 3/28) = 3251.6

Jugs of wine are relatively easy to get your hands on. Jugs usually does not sell immediately, however, people often buy large quantites of them at a time.

79.160.19.8 19:39, September 27, 2013 (UTC) BlackCap

Exiled Kalphites
With 99 smithing, damaged chitin gives you 9k worth of chitin straps. Since you can kill a fair amount of exiled kalphites per hour, I think this method warrants looking into. I don't often kill exiled kalphites, so I'm not sure how many kills you can get per hour, but using a yack can make each trip worth at least 500k. Tomdiepstrap (talk) 23:33, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * So I've been looking into this method a bit more, and using a royal crossbow with royal bolts, extremes, and a yack WITHOUT winter storage scrolls, I can easily do 4 trips within an hour killing marauders and guardians. Assuming 58 chitin per trip (More like 50, but 8 spots get taken up by things like runes, which tend to outvalue chitin over the course of a trip), that's 232 chitin per hour. Also, at the Varrock West Bank anvil, a full inventory of chitin can be processed in 45 seconds.


 * Doing some quick calculations, and considering loss of time in processing chitin, you could easily make 2m an hour with this method. Tomdiepstrap (talk) 23:56, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I added 84+ Smithing to recommended requirements, as that makes it 2m+/hr
 * Spyrro (talk) 22:18, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Smoke Runes?
Got to browsing around for rune prices lately, noticed that the prices on hybrid elemental runes are still high, especially Smoke. Looked at the ingredient prices, looked at the locations. I'm pretty sure it's an excellent money-making method, and they sold pretty well when I tried it. Let's look at the math.

Per run: That's a setup cost per run of about 1,570 gold. As for output, 26 smoke runes at ~550 each (market price at time of writing) comes out to about 14,300 gold, minus the 1,570 setup, which leaves a profit of 12,730 per run. The Runecrafting page says the Fire Altar is about a minute per run, so 12,730 * 60 is 763,800 profit per hour. My numbers might be off by a gold piece or three here and there, but the math stands.
 * 1x Air Talisman (160ish gold at time of writing)
 * 26x Air Rune (450ish gold at time of writing)
 * 1 charge of a Binding Necklace (50ish gold per charge at time of writing)
 * 26x Pure Essence (910ish gold at time of writing)

I'd call three quarters of a million per hour at 19 Runecrafting a pretty good money-making method, and it's not like the ingredients are all that hard to get on the Grand Exchange. It's even decent experience -- I'm still getting a few levels doing runs of it in the mid-30s.

Thoughts?

Yuki Artwaltz (talk) 18:38, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Mining Mithril and Coal
I see there are guides for mining iron, adamantite, and runite ores, but not for mithril ore or coal, both of which could be easily profitable. It'd be great if somebody added these; I can't because I don't actually know the best methods! 129.161.218.194 11:19, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

If you buy kebabs from Karim in Al Kharid and sell on the GE, you make a considerable amount

72.196.5.127 22:39, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

If you buy kebabs from the kebab seller in Al Kharid and sell them at the GE, you will get considerable profits72.196.5.127 22:41, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Killing the King Black Dragon
Please add info on killing the King Black Dragon in groups of 2 or more. Thanks!

  AWE5ME  03:05, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can someone add a page for Exiled Kalphites? The chitins break into 5k-10k worth coins. You can get about 140 chitins per hour which averages at 1m just on the chitinsDuskFalls (talk) 12:09, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Inconsistency in gp/hr profit
There are inconsistencies between the profit per hour in the table on this article and the profit per hour listed on the individal method's page. There should be some sort of standardization in formalae to keep them the same. Voyaging (talk) 04:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I too have noticed this. I think correcting this should be of relatively high priority. I would ask that anybody with the "know-how" to take a try at solving this issue. Just for a quick example (and this may have been fixed after the time of writing this) but if you look at the Cleaning Grimy Ranarr it is suggested that you can make over 600k per hour then on the actual page suggests about 300k. 71.230.252.103 01:51, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Vials of Water
As trivial as this may seem, I think something could be said about buying empty vials and filling them with water before reselling. Although the price of Vial of Water has fluctuated lately due to shop updates and changes but who's to say that they won't rise again in the future. Thoughts? Would anyone be interested in adding this in? 71.230.252.103 23:40, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think this is applicable, since the store sell vial of water packs too Mistydarkness (talk) 16:50, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Cannonballs
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Shoyrukon/MMG-cannonballs Cannonballs method at port phaysmatys. Includes normal cball smithing at edge furnace in the details. (Shoyrukon (talk) 06:30, October 28, 2013 (UTC))


 * I have decided to create a page for smithing cannonballs on the mainspace. Feel free to correct the writing style, information. The page is http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Money_making_guide/Smithing_cannonballs (Shoyrukon (talk) 04:34, November 11, 2013 (UTC))


 * Smithing cannonballs at Lumbridge Furnace is quite fast as well, since it's next to a bank chest

swamp lizard
i was looking at the swamp lizard guide, but there is no estimation for how much you make with war tortoise. i will be doing a bit of research and will be adding the profit on the page as soon as i can. --72.192.68.93 12:56, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Bobs shouldn't increase the the profit by too much. You are only reducing the number of bank trips  by increasing your overall inventory space. --(Shoyrukon (talk) 22:08, November 3, 2013 (UTC))

Categorizing the Guides
Previously, the old MMG was seperated into individual skills, combat, and merchanting. I think we should make the split the guides up into different sections based on whether it's primarly combat, skilling, collection or other (merchanting) if possible? The guide right now is not very easy to navigate for lower to mid level players as the top hourly profits are primarly high level combat methods. If we split the guides up into their respective, primary skills requirement, subsections, this would help players navigate and find select methods to train or make money.

(Shoyrukon (talk) 04:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC))

Rise of the Six 50m+ p/h
188.64.36.220 21:52, November 15, 2013 (UTC)elbuxx

skills
I wuld like to see fishing skill in monny making guide + roctail fishing shuld be inn it :) and Divination skill too

Killing guards for grapes
Guards commonly drop 3 grapes, grapes are worth around 1.5k you can easly get around 150 grapes / hour, that's arounds 220k/h

Since are guards are quite easy to kill this would be a great method for free/new players to make money.

Kill guards north gate of falador south of lode, bank close(south).

78.40.176.164 17:17, December 12, 2013 (UTC)collectorer
 * See Money making guide/Killing guards. 22:14, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

No Fight kiln for onyx' method?DuskFalls (talk) 22:29, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * We'd love to have a method for that, I just don't know enough about it to write one yet. 22:14, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Elder/Magic logs
What about woodcutting elder logs and magic logs? Are these still good money making methods?

Golduin (talk) 07:17, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Magic logs were pretty bad (about 200,000 an hour) when I last tested. I haven't tried elder logs. 22:14, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

How about a guide for turning wisps into energy? My rudimentory calculations gave it a rate of around 1.7m an hour at radiant wisps.

DuskFalls (talk) 00:45, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Selling flatpacks at miscellania
Selling flatpack mahogany tables to advisor grim gets you 2.5m/hr with beast of burden. you have to finish the fremnick tasks though.
 * It's not doable since the buy limit on packs are 100/4h. Shoyrukon (talk) 04:12, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, People sell these flatpacks in bulk on the rs forums for 500-600 gp ea, sell them to the advisor for 1k ea, repeat for tons of money.

Added quote
collecting cow hides is a way to get money for low levels. location:lumbridge you need level 10 armour and weapon and 28 inventory space. 239k per hour collect 935 cow hide --89.187.217.4 18:44, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

this page sucks, missing so much shit aswell as being a terrible idea to combine many many articles into one Totric (talk) 05:53, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

About craft method of making money...
Why methods using craft weren't added to the new guide? Like Sanctify Olive oil(3) in the Shades of Mort'ton activity or Make Wooden cats at your POH Crafting Table? I think those are good methods. They were in the old Money_making_guide/Crafting_(P2P) but they are not in the new Money_making_guide. Can anyone add those? Or at leat say why not add them? Ty 189.55.254.252 13:53, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Kiln Guide
Would it be possible to have a money making guide for the fight kiln? When I do it I do 35 minute runs using full virtus, vwand/book etc. This would be a really good money maker and could make more than any of the other methods216.255.30.69 02:50, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * That would be pointless. Times vary on how much experience you get, and the only item is an onyx. 04:14, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mime, it's still a significant money maker. Probably 4-5 million an hour. I want to do a guide on speed Fight Kilns but I don't have enough information on it. 04:35, December 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * All information you need is that it takes 35 minutes and you get an onyx. For more precise costs you would want to consider the use of potions and food. But for an estimate the time and the onyx as price is good enough. I do the fight kiln in 55 minutes but I use subjugation/bandos with armadyl battlestaff/saradomin godsword + overload + unicorn and unicorn scrolls + water runes. So my profit is ruffly 3m/h. (2.68.79.85 10:37, January 5, 2014 (UTC))
 * All information you need is that it takes 35 minutes and you get an onyx. For more precise costs you would want to consider the use of potions and food. But for an estimate the time and the onyx as price is good enough. I do the fight kiln in 55 minutes but I use subjugation/bandos with armadyl battlestaff/saradomin godsword + overload + unicorn and unicorn scrolls + water runes. So my profit is ruffly 3m/h. (2.68.79.85 10:37, January 5, 2014 (UTC))

Spinning
Haven't checked back through the archives of this talk page and didn't seem to notice it on the main list but they're should be something on here about spinning flax into bowstrings. I used to do this all the time, went back on yesterday for the first time in RS3 and still as effective.

I bought 1000 Flax from G/E which cost - 35,000

Once all spun my return will be just short of 200,000

Great money making, especially since you can also just go pick the flax yourself if you had no starting balance! :)

Bret Hart68 2.100.208.97 18:29, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Airuts
How about Airuts? Though they have a high slayer requirement, and the very expensive drygores are needed to kill them effectively...but once these are achieved, their drops are quite good. Neutralino (talk) 02:23, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Killing cockroach soldiers
I find that killing cockroach soldiers is a good way to earn money because not only do they drop crapaces, but for f2p they drop gems, rune items and ores. just an idea.Awesumnis (talk) 08:35, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Lobsters
Lobster fishing at Mesa Point for F2Ps? It costs literally nothing, as long as you have a lobster cage on your toolbar, and since they can be noted at Stiles it's quite easy to get a lot of them in a relatively short amount of time. (Also they sell for more raw, might be nice to note) 82.136.248.87 18:35, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Heh. You're just ahead of me. But yeah, Musa Point lobby fishing could be quite profitable. EDIT: Maybe swordfish too? Might be slower because of the chances of tuna. everystat13 (talk|contribs) 18:37, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Filtering by combat and noncombat
Is it possible to add a filter, so that you can choose to specifically see only guides that require combat, or guides that don't require it at all? I feel like that would be a pretty useful feature. That, and the ability to filter by skill. Emily1799 (talk) 20:04, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Should be easy enough. I'll try to have a talk with Cook about how exactly we should go about doing this. 20:06, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks! It's good to see that you guys take suggestions! The new pages will be very useful. Emily1799 (talk) 18:37, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Batwings
The batwings would seem to not be selling well anymore 60.240.81.103 07:22, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * The calculators utilise the grand exchange market price. While the wings might not be selling well, the grand exchange has yet to reflect any price change, so the calculator in the guide won't either. These are just guidelines for making money, not 100% accurate. 07:39, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

GoP Water talismans
Needs a guide, see Calculator:Runecrafting/Guild Tokens. 06:51, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

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Umm the prices for broad arrows in the money making section don't give you a profit. 74.69.234.156 16:26, February 14, 2014 (UTC)Starking

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The page entitled "Making steel of legends scrolls" may want to be removed, as per hour it loses over 2 million coins, and so therefore nobody will use it. (Ualac3)

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Fletching arrow shafts

Egg Spawn Scrolls
Probably shouldn't make egg spawn scrolls at around 3 A.M. PT because the scrolls were being bought at only 250, but they may go up in the morning. If not, don't do, because you may make a loss of around 240 per scroll (Could use them to make eggs though). 172.11.234.82 11:15, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

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This money making guide does not work any more

Updated price
swamp lizards dont sell for quite as much as the guide price so the gp per hour is a little bit less than stated in this guide unless your willing to wait a week for them to sell.

stenchting21  81.131.229.139 00:05, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Currently you can only get around 600k per hour. The values are outdated,

Wilderness Warbands
How about Warbands as a recurring method? You can turn each crate into 4000 coins. Although it is very dangerous...Neutralino (talk) 22:08, March 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Most people wouldn't convert the crates into gold, they do it for the experience. Don't think this deserves a guide. Shoyrukon (talk) 16:12, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Money Making Guide/Buying Battlestaves: Update Needed
The info found in this guide needs to be confirmed and updated.

Naff is no longer the npc selling staves, it seems he was replaced by Zaff and he doesn't sell battlestaves to f2p players. If anyone else can confirm this, the guide should be updated.

Cheers,

Madamwest (profile | Message_Wall:Madamwest|wall | contribs) 19:28, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I still buy my daily allotted 80 battlestaves from Naff every day. To my knowledge nothing has changed on the matter. Battlestaves have also always been p2p only. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:44, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

By hunting in the private hunting area and buying the pawya meat instead of hunting them yourself, you can easily triple the amount of money you make compared to this guide.24.78.103.15 00:53, March 17, 2014 (UTC)24.78.103.15 00:55, March 17, 2014 (UTC)o

Making headless arrows: Bettered
A good way of making money is by making arrow shafts and headles arrows, right? right.but, you can cut logs, then make the logs into arrow shafts yourself, saving money. 1. you are going to be getting 25 woodcutting exp per log, 2. the 15 arrow shafts together are more valuable than the single log they came from, so you (if you have the extra patience) will save money, even when you buy logs instead of arrow shafts directly. as of now, if you cut a log, and make it into arrow shafts, then add feathers, a single feather is 26gp, the finished product is 60gp, so a profit of 34gp per arrow shaft, thats a profit of 500gp per log, and if you keep the arrow shafts in your inventory and chop trees, your getting 27 logs in an inventory, make those arrow shafts, add feathers, and you get a PROFIT of 13500gp per inventory, which will take a total of 5 minutes, from starting cutting, to finishing arrow shafts (add the feathers later, once your completly done with logs), so thats about 10-15 inventory's an hour, depending on your woodcutting level.(mine is 71 at the moment), so you will gain AN ADDITIONAL PROFIT OF:  135000  to  202500 per hour.so that brings you profit to  700,000 to  775,000 gp per hour

24.145.128.13 00:53, March 20, 2014 (UTC)Mark... or Runescape player name: EagleEyes 25

Input is 4,770 yet somehow the output is 47,700. Someone made a mistake. 166.137.156.33 17:32, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, at level 99 you get 10 armadyl runes per Dust of Armadyl. It's not a mistake, although the Grand Exchange prices seem to be far from correct in this case. 17:40, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

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I use deflect mage, reduces the breath and magic attacks to minimal damage and I get away with 10 shark and 1 prayer potion (varies slightly with lvl). That puts me at 18k input per trip. Nearly half what is recommended on the guide.
 * This is the discussion page of all Money making guides in general. You'll have to specifically state which guide your comment pertains to. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:36, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's not really fair to say. The page itself says to redirect all queries here. It's also much easier to handle questions like these when everything is on one page. 20:57, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I never said this was the wrong place to discuss it; just that without adding explicitly what guide he's talking about, we can't really determine that... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:46, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry for misunderstanding. I think he means frost dragons if I had to guess. There's already a bit of discussion on that talk page about too. 14:15, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

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Please retain the Herblore Guide located at this web address:

Herblore Guide http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Money_making_guide/Herblore

It is extremely beneficial to have a dedicated Herblore database for players to track of profitability. Removing this article would be devastating to my continued gameplay and leveling. I have been a player since 2004, and have been an active and reoccuring yearly member since 2009. Please do not remove this article from RunescapeWiki or those like it.

108.15.165.167 18:39, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this page just isn't beneficial to us. Also, none of that is really a guide, most of it is redundant with Calculator:Herblore. 18:46, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

The profitability of transmuting.
I noticed on the Transmuting guide for Divination that a small chunk of profit comes out of this so I tried it for myself and ran some numbers and got a low estimate of 400K profit per hour doing this. Probably not as profitable as just harvesting the energies needed to do it but I figured this was worth mentioning.

24.158.161.92 17:46, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Bank Presets
I think a lot of these money making methods need to be updated to reflect the new bank presets. Any activity requiring constant banking is greatly sped up with presets. For instance, superheating rune bars has a method that produces 1200 bars per hour, but with presets you can easily superheat 2000 bars per hour. The profits shown on here for superheating and similar activities are misleadingly low.67.208.241.82 10:07, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Just to say that i have recently tested this with the following outfit:

Full Zammy Warpriest, Ring of Wealth and Bandos Godsword.

Tested this for 6 hours and averaged out far less than the 1.1 mill mentioned. I got on average 410k per hour.

This was in the spot mentioned in the wiki.

As this is significantly less than stated in wiki - could this be retested at some point.

213.249.189.7 14:21, April 15, 2014 (UTC) Exeter Fun 213.249.189.7 14:21, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Killing Cave Slime - Money Making

Just to say that i have recently tested this with the following outfit:

Full Zammy Warpriest, Ring of Wealth and Bandos Godsword.

Tested this for 6 hours and averaged out far less than the 1.1 mill mentioned. I got on average 410k per hour.

This was in the spot mentioned in the wiki.

As this is significantly less than stated in wiki - could this be retested at some point.

213.249.189.7 14:22, April 15, 2014 (UTC) Exeter Fun 213.249.189.7 14:22, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

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At current, the dust of Armadyl is selling on the GE for a minimum of 3248 each. Once you add the cost of a pure essence (14 each) this means that even at 99 runecrafting you would make a 2GP loss per dust used if selling for 326 per rune.

Cutting Elder trees
According to the Elder tree's article, cutting them yields a profit of ~561k at the moment. Neutralino (talk) 20:36, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Mud runes
Making Mud runes is a semi-good money making method for lower lvl runecrafters. Making them at water altar is recommended and also using the Binding neclace. Also if you have Lunar Diplomacy with 82 magic you can cast Magic Imbue for not having to use talismans. And this also enables the use of earth altar which is closer to bank(?) 85.76.47.145 09:07, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the keystone drop frequency be 0.65 per hour with equal chances of dropping each of the six, instead of 0.65*6 as in the guide?

169.232.237.135 21:40, May 4, 2014 (UTC) fat chow

Could add in a guide for KBD money making. He's already a decent amount of profit, would be nice to have him and QBD in the same guide.71.206.67.233 23:01, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup
So, I was wondering why  there is a 50 Dungeoneering recemmendation for this guide. Thanks This was about Killing Graar 67.234.156.100 23:04, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed. The guide originally mentioned using a steel titan (and so a spirit cape), but I changed the suggested familiar to pack yak a while back to favor longer trips. 23:09, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Draconic visage
It's correct upto 3 decimal points, however this makes it look as if the item is worth 10's of millions. Is it possible to make it correct up to 0 decimal points? Vegancookies (talk) 13:51, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Can someone add the smelting steel guide?

I'm pretty sure it's a pretty great way to get some gold

162.157.179.131 16:09, May 18, 2014 (UTC)zacx666

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Rather than using the camelot teleport, it's quicker to use the catherby teleport.