Talk:Ancient effigies

it has been confirmed by a jagex mod that ring of wealth dont affect the droprate of them. can someone please edit it in the wiki?81.227.15.177 20:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can I get a source on this? 01:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dragonkin Lamp exp formula
The one listed isn't completely accurate. A more accurate estimation is (x^3)/20.2, but even that isn't entirely correct. I have, so far, a few lamp rewards. Any more that anybody could add would help, quite a bit. I'll add more as I get them. 19,282 xp lamp for level 73 Mining

26,320 xp lamp for level 81 dung

28,315 xp lamp for level 83 Herblore

29,349 xp lamp for level 84 Herblore

36,090 xp lamp for level 90 Woodcutting

38,548 xp lamp for level 92

39,817 xp lamp for level 93 Slayer

39,817 xp lamp for level 93 Defence

41,115 xp lamp for level 94 Slayer

42,411 xp lamp for level 95 Runecrafting <- 42,441?

96.251.32.115 05:53, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Goblins?
Are you sure goblins (specifically the level 3's as stated on the page) drop these? It seems very unlikely, as everything else listed is of high level. Super adm 09:04, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that, nevermind, someone clever got rid of it. :) hopefully we'll work out everything that REALLY drops these pretty quickly. Super adm 09:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was confused by the vandalism for a second, but I sorted it out ;) 09:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a friend who kills a lot of goblins so if they get one they will show me on their adventure log. 66.169.101.69 05:25, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I dont know if the lvl 3 goblins drop them but the Goblins in the godwars dungeon drop them. I have had 2 from them and a friend has had one.

Taafe 11:19, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reward?
In the Knowledge Base it says you can turn the Ancient Effigies in to Historian Minas at Varrock Museum for a reward. Does anyone know what this reward is?

24.72.212.166 11:39, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

A 5k exp lamp that you can use on skills above 50. 96.251.32.115 05:46, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Aesthetics
For the "Monsters" section, should the monster names be capitalized as such "Aberrant Spectre" or should it be written "Aberrant spectre" with only the first part of the name being capitalized. Personally I believe capitalizing both looks more appealing but someone revised my edit so I'll just ask the community.  [Composite 4] (My Talk)


 * I think it was changed because that is the actual name of the article. Otherwise it would cause a redirect. 21:29, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

ftp or ptp
is it ftp and ptp or just ptp?174.29.151.61 22:19, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's for p2p only. 22:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Monsters who drop
Is there a way we could sort it so you don't have to scroll hugely down the page to see the entire list, some sort of table to sort it, but make the lines transparent or something? I'm not too sure how people would like it to be done? 12:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think a list is acceptable, espcially since it is alphabetized, making it easy to find your monster.Nascarsux8 14:01, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * It would be usefull if the combat levels were also listed and we could sort by combat level to check what the lowest level monsters are to fight. --Madmarkx 18:42, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to add it with a show/hide button, with hide as default? 22:06, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Exact Formula
I think i found the formula, feel free to resume (make it shorter) if possible =)

$$x^3-x*(x-(100-x))/20$$

Obviously rounded down.

AnonymousRJ 20:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lootshare?
Quick question, could you get one of these on ls?75.140.241.125 22:52, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * It goes to the person who'd done the most damage, if dropped Badboygamer7 14:58, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

monster levels
I heard a rumour that you could only get these if the monster was of a higher level than you.... this backs up my experience as I haven't had a drop from about 800 creatures level 100-120 (I"m level 122.) Can anyone disprove this with a counter example? Armcie 15:54, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * My level 134 friend got one from a level 130 Desert Strykewyrm. Damnads 09:15, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am level 129 and got one (RC/Summ) from killing low level monsters. I have a question -- I have read that you can get multiple Effigies and store them in the bank and I know that they don't stack, but will you be able to have more than one of the same type at the same time? (i.e. if I save my RC/Summ effigy until I get the levels to complete it myself, am I precluding the chance that I will get another RC/Summ effigy in the mean time?)
 * -No. 188.220.35.172 20:01, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * --I really appreciate the reply, but I realized that I asked two different questions, making the "no" answer a bit ambiguous. To clarify, can I have two of the same type of effigy at the same time?

Could we get a drop log going for these somewhere as a direct result of slayer assignments seeriouslly I have put in 16 hours of cannoning slayer each day since the update came out & have only got 2 so far.

That's alot of time & cannonballs for virtually no results so far it's looking like D Chain from dust devils rare for me :(. Oh well I guess I got other drops but these arn't a very good way to train most skills just a nice boost every now & then.

Level 133 got Effigy from Gargoyle. This silly rumour is based on the stated truth that "higher level" monsters are more likely to drop an effigy, but this means "higher" than other possible effigy-dropping monsters, not "higher" than the player's level. 188.220.35.172 20:01, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Boosts
Maybe we should put an extra element with all the possible boosts. Could make it easier to complete for some people. 10:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

im lvl 132 and I got an effigy from a lvl 92 greater demon today Sir Danny 06:43, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

One line of the article says that stats boosts do not work with effigies, yet there is a table of boosts in another section. This information seem contradictory. Malikue Aug 11

Bankable?
Is it? Composite 4
 * Yes, but they will not stack, and the lamp isn't bankable. Coelacanth0794 18:02, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Name: Effigies vs Effigy
Whilst it was in rs news as 'ancient effigies' it is listed in the game guide as 'ancient effigy'. Which of these can be considered the 'official name'? Is it specifically metioned in game?

A: Effigies is the plural of Effigy. Both are official.

Rare drop tables
The fact that hellhounds drop Effigies seems to disprove this but maybe the ancient effigies are part of the rare drop table? 65.89.42.202 17:40, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

What drops them
I am suggesting that this page be protected until the drops can be accurately reported.

Lots of edits and fighting over the drops. screen shots maybe?Branmans 15:42, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I put this on the other effigy page, which i got from someone's mod quotes, which seem legit, "They do not require any levels to get, and the assist system can be used if you do not have the required level in the two skills the effigy requires. Each stage of the effigy has two different skills which can be used before passing onto the next stage. The effigies are a rare drop, and are dropped by (presumably) most high levelled monsters. Receiving an effigy as a drop will show up on your adventure log and more than one can be held at one time." DMalfoy 16:13, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Flesh Crawlers
They are really drops the effigies? User:Chiro9

I'd like some proof on that aswell, as they seem rarther random when compared to the other monsters combat levels. Flesh crawlers arnt high levels. =S Super adm 16:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

No limit?
So I assume that after you restore the starved effigy, you can then restore the next one immediately if you have the required level, and so on until you restore all of the effigies? Do you have to wait between restorations? 16:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Experience reward
the following was removed from the article, which is understandable since it may not be accurate, but i figured it might be useful for a reference in working out the xp reward. presumably talking about the dragonkin lamp

"At level 64, you get awarded 16,000xp. Also, at level 81, you will get awarded 26,320xp (can be proven on YouTube). At level 80, you get awarded 25,400xp."

Item rewards?
Does anyone have discovered yet if and what items come out of the effigies once they are fully nourished? 15 june 2010

I think that's what the dragonkin lamp in the article is, i'm not 100% sure.65.89.42.202 17:56, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rare Drop Tables
The fact that hellhounds drop Effigies seems to disprove this but maybe the ancient effigies are part of the rare drop table? 65.89.42.202 17:40, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Assist
Since I have nowhere near the levels. If I find one, and use the assist system, who receives the experience? Can I use someone who is a 99 to fill it all the way up? Do they get all the experience and I the dragonkin lamp? 18:20, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

You can only get 30,000 xp from any 1 person in 24 hours, so you couldnt. But who gets experience? If you havent got the level and you get assistance of someone then that person gets the experience but you will get the Dragonkin Lamp at the end of it. Hope this answers your questions.

Taafe 11:25, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

spritual mages?
It says al of Kuradal's tasks except for spiritual mages drop effigies, yet spiritual mages are on the list. ???

Removed some useless information
I removed the (Dunge Castle) notation from after Daemonheim. The abbreviation of dungeoneering is not dunge, that makes no sense. If someone doesn' t know what Daemonheim is they won't know what "Dunge Castle" is anyhow.

EDIT: I also removed spiritual mages from the list of monsters that drop effigies. As stated in the paragraph above the list, spiritual mages do not drop effigies. 63.147.9.29 05:20, January 16, 2011 (UTC)