RuneScape talk:WikiGuilds/Citers' Guild

RSW Images
What if the only citation I can provide is an image on the RuneScape Wiki? Is there any way to cite that in MLA format, or do I just link to the image? 12:17, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Userbox
This project needs an official userbox. "This user is an active member of RuneScape:Citations." 21:27, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this project called "RuneScape:Citations" or just "Citations"? Or maybe per YG it will be called "WikiGuild Citations".
 * I created the userbox: Template:Userbox/Citations. 21:51, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Category:References that need verification
Does it need to be checked every month? The website isn't changed that often. 02:52, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. 30 days was just a number I chose that seemed reasonable, it can be changed easily. We could even use different amounts of time depending on the reference (e.g. 30 days for CiteForums, 90 days for CiteGG, etc) if we want. 15:08, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Because I don't think things like God Letters and Postbags have ever been changed. 17:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * they have been changed, but the old URLs redirect to the new URLs. I'm unsure of the whole verification thing after seeing it implemented. I've bugged quarenon to see about a script to make verifying references a one-click deal, and that should hopefully make the whole thing easier. 04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Community
How are we supposed to cite things such as black partyhats, server blackout luring, and the Falador massacre? Jagex hasn't addressed them, or if they have, the threads they posted in weren't archived. 04:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply put, we can't. If there isn't any information on the jagex site, then no citations. 04:35, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, while its nice to have references everywhere, there's no need to worry about referencing things where references don't exist. However there are non-jagex yet still reputable references out there that aren't affiliated with Jagex, such as Tip.It's interview with Durial 321. 04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

CitePoll
Should we make a CitePoll template? 03:14, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this what it would look like?
 * Jagex. Halloween Drop. RuneScape Polls. Retrieved 15:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC).
 * 15:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or maybe we would have a parameter for the poll question, too. 15:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good. One of the shorter templates, only 2+date and name parameters. 17:48, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, we'd probably need a polldate parameter, too, so, with the polldate and question parameters, it would be something like this:
 * Jagex. Halloween Drop, Halloween Drop. 23 October 2003. RuneScape Polls. Retrieved 21:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC).
 * Note that the poll title and poll question are the same for this one. 21:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or, like what we do in CitePostbag and CiteGodLetter, we'd do this instead:
 * Jagex. Halloween Drop, Question 1. 23 October 2003. RuneScape Polls. Retrieved 22:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC).
 * But we might only need to include the question number if there is more than one question in a poll. 22:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks, Gaz. 15:29, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Red asterisk
Template:CiteNPC has, instead of the accessdate, a red asterisk if a reference is unverified. Are we going to be doing that with all the templates? 14:59, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * We could if its preferred over the Retrieved -date-. display. I like it, looks a little less cluttered, but it may be less professional. We need more opinions. 17:48, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that it looks less cluttered, because for the template to work, we need the full "21:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)". 21:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * See F:ASTERISK. 01:09, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

CiteDevDiary
Development Diaries were made before Developers' Blogs, and have no one known author, just Jagex. It would probably look something like this:

Jagex. Summoning: Part 1 - Concept. Development Diaries. Retrieved 15:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC).

I don't think the Diaries have dates, though. 15:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can find most or all of the dates from the RuneScape news archive. 17:08, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds pretty simple. Has it been made yet? If not I'll see about doing it, proably really easy adaptation from Template:CiteDevBlog.  04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Some diaries have dates and authors provided, especially later on, I've checked. Anyways I've made it and if there is no author provided we just need to put "jagex" as the author. There is indeed no date but I'm not sure how to address that. We could either make the date not-required, which would potentially let incomplete references pass as complete, or we could make it so the date should be provided, or set to "unknown" which could possibly hide the field altogether. 04:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

CiteSupport
I've created Template:CiteSupport for Customer Support pages. It's pretty much the same as CiteGG. 19:37, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, I hadn't thought of citing things there >_> 04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

JMod Forum posts

 * 1) If the post is from Mod MMG, should I put down "Mod Mmg", as it appears in the forums, or "Mod MMG", like how he is better known for?
 * 2) If a JMod quotes, or whose entire post is written by, another JMod ( for example), should I put down the person who wrote the text on the post, or the person who posted it? (For above link, Mod MMG or Mod Mat K?) 14:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lores
Could someone create a Cite template thing for citing Lores and Histories from the KB?? 10:55, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. 02:04, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Name change
This is very minor, but this is the only project with the "RuneScape:" prefix in its official title. Wouldn't a better name be something like "WikiGuild Citations"? 14:35, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Of course. --Coolnesse 22:57, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me.  01:05, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't make a difference to me 04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

CiteYouTube
I propose having a CiteYoutube. Jagex puts a lot interesting things in their Youtube videos such as the brief appearance of the graphically updated Zanaris and the new graphics effects in the Dungeoneering trailer. Krayfish 14:57, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Weak Oppose - It would make things easier; however, we don't cite YouTube that often, and we have Template:Cite web. 02:03, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral its not as if we have a space issue here, so it doesn't matter if its used rarely or not. But I don't think youtube videos are often a good source of information that cannot be cited elsewhere. In the example you give, how exactly would the youtube video be used as a source? 04:17, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Citation template toolbar
I adapted Quarenon's Template Toolbar script to add a drop down menu of citation templates to the edit toolbar. Try it out! Installation links: [ Monaco] - [ Monobook] 07:27, July 24, 2010 (UTC)