User talk:Btzkillerv/Archives4

Re:Block
I'll see what I can do. -- 20:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Try it now. -- 20:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: RfA
Although I greatly appreciate you nominating me, I'm afraid I'm not ready yet and can't be active enough at the moment to benefit from admin powers, with school being a bit stressful at the moment. Maybe in a few months. But thanks for nominating me anyway. :) Butterman62 (talk) 21:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: wiki newspaper
They probably just noticed because I put a link on the sitenotice. If you had done that (which you can't :/) then I'm guessing you would have gotten the same publicity I did. So, err, I cheated? 23:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: my school IP
Having other students vandalising when they see people on the website is one of those things that happens. The IP was blocked for a short while, the not much vandalism was done. The message on the IP talk page should stay as a warning for others. I understand that it was not you doing the vandalising. If other students do condinue to vandalise, then increasing blocks might have to be applied. If this happens, you should not take it as something against you, but done in order to protect the wiki from the other students. Hopefully they won't see you on the site too often and be tempted. 18:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

who
are you? Did you just break out of an insane asylum or something? 20:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So you'd rather me call you a "big nose" than just give you a link? 21:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hypocritic big nose brainiac. You don't need to make a new section for each post btw. 21:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My brother farts in your general direction. Have a nice day! 21:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Gah, darn those arrows. lol 21:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)



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 * This is awful one-sided for a "flame war". You've got your flamethrower pointed at a sarcastic brick wall XD 11:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * more like i pointed it at a retard 

Btzkillerv has entered the building!   15:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You keep insulting yourself. 17:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * then go and fuck yourself, you're not welcome here 

Btzkillerv has entered the building!   17:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Internet. Serious business. As exemplified above^ 05:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * why dont you get lost from my page, and mind your own business 

Btzkillerv has entered the building!   11:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, if you want me to leave you alone, why don't you stop replying? I admit I look forward to responding to your false flames each day lol 23:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sigh... now i'm calm, i have to say i had 2 fucking shit weeks and seeing you accuse of me being jealous when i really was the first one that had the idea really, Really pissed me off. so, coupled with the trouble i got for punching two year 9s (in retaliation for them hitting me first), your use of that wikipedia links really pissed me off, I'm sorry for insulting you with personal attacks, and i do not blame christine for blocking me. i really did deserve it, it's just that i was so angey i cant calm down enough, so i carrird on flaming, but seriously, you should do more research before you accuse someone of being jealous, because even Chia adknowlaged that it was me that had the original idea. 

Btzkillerv has entered the building!   15:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, the evidence was just above your comment <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 16:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Since you apologized, I'm happy to say I forgive you :). You never linked to where you had posted the newspaper idea before, and honestly, I've thought of (but not acted on) the idea myself several times in the past. I wasn't going out of my way to offend or insult, rather than to observe. I'm sorry myself that it came across like that, but when you start flaming the way you did there's no room left for understanding or any intelligent conversation. So, basically, once this all began, I started doing it for the luls :P 21:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Rendova
I'm not entirely sure why you're so ticked off at him, but could you please stop? Flaming people like this is against the rules, y'know... WWTDD? 15:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I can tell you're 'pissed off', but you'd be surprised how effective arguing without swearing every other word can be. ;) WWTDD? 15:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. :) WWTDD? 15:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, could you stop and just ignore him? WWTDD? 17:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ill try, and rendova is a he? <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * He did say so. WWTDD? 17:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Christine
okay, you blocked me for personal attacks, then why dont you tell me at least?

I really don't care about what you think because considering that the turtle guy rendova use wikipedia links to insult me, and coubled with my bad, Fucking bad week, I'm not in a perfect mood, in fact I feel a strong, burning urge to say "Fuck you" when I saw that you blocked me. I guess you're right to do that, and i would say that if i was you i would've blocked me. so i guess there's a logical reason for that, but seriously accusing someone in the middle of their bad weeks of being jealous is difinitely not helping, and it sure led to my flaming, i do lose it sometimes, and saying that i'm jealous (when i did really throught up the idea) really DID piss me off. i apologised to him for my over-reaction, but i'm not asking for an unblock just yet, because i feel that i deserved it and needs to understand about talking calmly and not losing it. i thank you for blocking me, because it brought me to sense.

<font style="background:cyan"> Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 15:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone just pointed this out to me, but dude, seriously, what are you talking about accusing anyone of being jealous? I didn't say anything. Christine 19:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * it wasn;t you, rendova put on chia's talk the wikipedia link for jealousy after my message, so that pissed me off especially with all the cyber and real trouble happening to me <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 11:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * you're a bitch christine, you are a goddamned power abuser, well done, telling az to kick me on sight, protecting my talk, kicking me for no proper reason, well done, you seem to enjoy seeing me taking your fucking retarded crap huh? your stupid laments, your sarcastic insults, your bitchy mood, what the fuck do you think you can do, eh? you love making my life miserable, you sadistic power-abusing piece of shit. you have no life, all the fuck you do is to insult me, give me no respect and your blackmail crap. so you kick me for what? if you said that about me, i would've have to stay quiet, who the fuck do you think you are to kick me for no proper reason? how the fuck did you get your crap freedom of speech while i don't? so you can say whatever your goddamned retarded want, while i can't say a damn thing? who do you think you are? you fucking call me a troll for what i did, which didn't deserve all that crap? go to hell! 18:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

gah
christine, i saw that u blocked Earthere, right? well i know ur pissed at him for using your pic but seriously, you pissed him off first on his RFA, so, with earth's temper and his desire for adminship (he felt that he should be an admin seince deg has became one and yet hasn't reached even 1/3 of earth's editcount), so of course he is cross, he is also angry at the community for his 3 4 failed RFAs, so with your verdict, he is difinitely mad at you for making him fail in all these RFAs, and personally, i believed that you provoked him into this, especially with comments that were more or less intimidating towards him on his RFA page, so, earth is difinitely pissed at his RFA failures dispite a large edit log. so dont think that you are all in the right in this, even if most of the community supports you, you got to find your own mistakes and ADMIT to it. then we'll respect you more. and guess what, i got MUCH more schoolwork than you can ever dream of (considering all these preparation for GCSE exams), so seriously, you need to calm down, and find your problems first, then add a block to people, because you provoked earthand pissed himn off with your oppose vote and the reason given. so (Earth is a spiteful person, driven by hostile peer pressure, so of course he is a pool of nitro that can explode at the slightest spark) you have a role in this, and he was difinitely planning to get you back for all this (not to mention your addition to his history of blocks), so christine, calm down, admit your faults, then solve the problem abeit in a responsible and modest manner, you claim yourself to be honese on your userpage, well its time you really live up to that.

<font style="background:cyan"> Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 16:13, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Dude, I didn't "make him fail" in all his RFAs, him fighting was his own fault. I also didn't say anything at all on his RFA that was bad, some comments made by all the other users were far worse. And NOTHING that I did justifies him using a picture of me in such a malicious way, that is an invasion of personal privacy. Christine 19:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Basically, he accused you of being slanderous (and difinitely he believes it) so that automatically make him feel that he can slander you because of what you wrote on his RFA, if you unprotect his talk ill talk to him, because i know he's fustrated at the failure of four RFAs and personally he felt that you are responsible for it. so ill go and talk to him, and make him calm down, because all these things really drove him potty, plus the sarcasm you used in the RFA "what makes the difination of a good user? you? your friends? ha", obviously was provoking and would piss him off.<font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 11:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: seriously
I'm a bit confused. I didn't at all see how I ever made him mad. I thought when he was talking about the slander, he was referring to Christine. During the RfA, I complimented him on how he was a valuable asset to the wiki, and then referred to, on the flipside, that admins can't argue and act like he and Christine were arguing. I really don't see how he could take so much offense at that. Butterman62 (talk) 21:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Gertjaars' comment
I would love to prove to all of you some how that I really am Gertjaars without adding you, C teng, Spencemac, and some others recently asked if they could be recruits in my clan chat, however My friends list is full and I am not willing to delete 1, I am planning on going to the winter wikifest, if I have time to attend it.

<font style="background:Goldenrod"> <font color=Black>Gertjaars <font color=Black>Gertalk!

Is that too big? and yes I'm gonna request a new one soon,

A note from Blanko, yes, the real blanko.
No, I don't want you to die or anything, I just want to thank you for addressing your concerns with me on my YouTube account. No, that guy was not me, we was a fat douchebag who fails at everything he tries to attempt at life. If you still do not believe me, please see: his IP and compare it with my IP. His IP is not in my network, state, internet service provider, and not even my IP range. In fact, I've quit the Wiki and was serving my permanent ban until you told me of it. There is no need of any admin to block me (as you'll just provoke me to ban evade, create a sockpuppet and add the material you wrongfully deleted), because I'm pretty sure (<-) you know what'll happen. Thanks, 24.7.245.169 02:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!!!
01:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

10:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!
00:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
You now have the ability to use [<FONT COLOR=BLUE>rollback</FONT>]. Please only use it for obvious vandalism; good faith edits deserve an edit reason. 22:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Responded
I responded to your latest comment on my RfA. I'm not asking you to change your vote, I'm just making sure you know my full opinion. 23:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:a random, crazy idea
I love Top Gear myself, though I know almost nothing about cars except sometimes having an opinion on how beautiful or ugly they are. So how do you envisage the format translating? Do you mean (for example) getting three players together in the game, being James, Richard and Jeremy? If so, would they talk using a transcript of the dialogue from an episode, or should it be improvised in-character, or somewhere in between? Presumably they will be discussing RuneScape equipment the way Top Gear discusses cars, but correct me if you had something else in mind. ;-) Doing one for each episode of TG may (notice I say "may") be too much, but a pilot episode could be a good gauge of reaction.  ;-)   14:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

block
well that pretty much sucks seeing that you're blocked for page blanking (even though you haven't removed any content from pages). enjoy your break nonetheless Beatstar 15:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * i won't be surprised if it was soldier1033 who done that <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 17:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Feel free to check my block log. I have never blocked you on this wiki. 17:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * everything on runescape clans was yours and the IPs fault, you blocked me thinking that it will do me good and you get the opposite effect, then you deleted everything that means to me on the clans wiki and protected my page and removed me from the featured users list and from the rollback club, and then you heavy-handedly indefed me, no point blocking me here because i prefer to keep the arguement on its original wiki, you don't know how pissed i was and i know you never will, and my clean record on that wiki is no more. ill be happy if you care to do the same blocks to yourself to feel what i did. and you can still unblock yourself <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 17:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * you should be happy that i'm calm enough to control myself, because if i was like blanko i would flame, insult and vandalise like he did with azaz129, you don't know how angry i am right now, and you should be glad that i can control myself here and not indirectly upsetting with sarcasm. if you can precisely check my clan wiki talk then you should know how pissed i am and how much the effort was not to fill the whole page with insults, a warning is enough yet you think its good to block me, and that is YOUR fault <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 17:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I never removed you from the featured users list. Admins can't even edit special pages. You were given plenty of warnings and you chose to continue making personal attacks and threats. The other active bureaucrat (Airblade) agreed with the decision to issue the blocks because you were out of control. All it took was you taking a step back and calming down but you chose to escalate it to what it is now. Goodbye Btz (no I'm not blocking you), I'm giving you your wish and never contacting you again unless you violate any of this wiki's policies. I tried to help you, I tried to get you to calm down, and I tried to avoid the block. You chose your own punishment by making those comments on your talk page. 17:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * no its because of you blocking me for one day and staining my record on that wiki, and i didn't accuse you of being communist, ('cause i am one) but you should look at the striking simillarities between your heavy-handed approach and the same thing hitler did especially in the night of the long knives, plus the discrimination and disgusting threats and heavy-handed approach <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 18:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * i choose my own punishment? rofl, you're lucky im not here to scream and curse. it's all your fault and don't even try to shift the blame onto me mate, it dosen't work, it's all your bloody fault and you know it. i will not rest until i see your own wiki record gets stained like the crimes you done to me <font style="background:cyan">

Btzkillerv has entered the building!  </b> 15:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Dude just chill out i dont believe that solider blocked you.--Supirion1 21:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * another worshipper of dictatorial authourity.. *sniggers* leave me alone mate, i don't like you, and you don't like me, so let me get on with my wikibreak before i go on a cursing spree 17:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, it's doctorevil42. Your pesent is kind of expensive, so I'll need 3000 noted wheat to stay within the trade limit. See you at the party! doctorevil42 00:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok what do you need me to do? 03:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, hey, remember when I said 3000 wheat? I meant 24,125. I rounded it to 30,000 then left out a 0. Sorry. Anyway, you're getting a rune h4 helm and shield. So, 24,125 wheat. doctorevil42 01:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Trade limit solution
what about 965 iron ore? Would that work? doctorevil42 02:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Offensive
Btz, I'm not a admin and I have no official authority, but I find that message at the top of your talk page quite vulgar. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but it would please me if you could change it to something less offensive. Thanks,
 * if christine fills the top with f-words, would you go and tell her the same? 11:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * besides, i'm on a wikibreak, why are you still bothering me? 11:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank-you.
Thank-you for your recent support in my RFF. It is much appreciated. <font color="Blue">Jediadam4 <font color="Green">(Talk)   19:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

RFA
Firstly, there's the DDD policy. Secondly, if you want that particular one to be closed, just ask an admin to move it to an archive. ;) WWTDD? 18:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to point out that you are nominating someone who has made 3 edits this month. Unless you are nominating them for Forum admin, why are you trying to make this nomination? Have you asked them whether or not they even want to be nominated? 18:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

...
Dictators kill people. Degenret hasn't killed anyone; he only blocked one person from entering the RS Wiki clan chat... WWTDD? 20:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * stop annoying me, im in a shit mood thanks to him, you dont know how tempting it is to vandalise his userpage and swear at him 20:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently he didn't block you from entering. My bad. WWTDD? 20:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Your userpage
Please remove the section entitled "people who do not like this user." All that is going to do is provide a catalyst for stirring up drama. -- 20:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * no, i won't, sorry but that means a lot more to me than it looks 20:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * May I ask why you want to keep it there? -- 20:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * because i want to know who to look out for as my enemies 20:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Having that on there will only create enemies. I assure you, the wiki does not need any more drama or personal vendettas. 20:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * What on Earth do you need that for? I'm pretty sure there are multiple policies that that sort of behavior goes against. Why not just treat everyone equally? -- 20:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I do have personal Vandettas, and i believe i can have vandettas as long as i dont go on a rampage, im being pissed off by them, so i should be aware of them 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Not if they violate policies and stir up drama, you can't. Resolve them or face the consequences of defying wiki policy. -- 20:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * fine, please yourself 20:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

You have been blocked for 1 week for violating the user treatment policy. You have been told several times to treat people equally and with respect. Your disregard for this policy has gone too far. Any more attempts to flame or harass users, I will gladly extend the block. 21:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * false acusations... i made that page out of rage, and then i put it up for deletion, i removed that already, stop upsetting me, im just gonna get enraged 21:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * As we pointed out several times in the clan chat, we are not responsible for your emotions. Instead of stirring up more drama and coming back to instantly earn a permaban the moment you make a single libelous comment or flame anyone or anything, take the time to clean up your act. Because I assure you, you are thisclose to being gone for good. -- 21:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i know, i deleted it already, what else? 21:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll be the first to say it. I don't care if you get enraged at all. It wouldn't bother me 1 bit. But when you take out your emotion on other people, that bothers me. As such, I will, without any second thoughts at all, block you longer if you continue to flame users. 21:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i wasn't flaming, "sir" i was just hit by a wave of rage for a while, then i added sppedy deletion tag, besides, being kicked for little things dosen't help 21:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Really BTZ, with all of the stuff that you have been doing, a 1 week block not at all unreasonable. Just calm down and come back when you're ready to treat the members of this wiki with respect. -- 21:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * what about what you did? you are being slightly hypocritical at the moment, as i said earlier i was pissed by christine's kick so i made the page out of rage, i then put it up for deletion, you signing the antiuser signboard is your fault, i didn't invite you to do that, i wasn't even being disprespective, that page was a subpage of mine. that wasn't alot, christine swore loads of times, why didn't anyone block her? you are being more disrespectful than me, besides, i deleted that signboard thing already, what more can you want? i calmed down long ago 21:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, you did invite me to do that. On your userpage, underneath the forum, you said to leave your name if you voted for you never come back, or else you where a coward (threats ftw).  I simply signed because I am not afraid of expressing my opinions about users who are immature and cant control their own emotions.  Your choice to send me that nice little message was totally initiated by you, not me.  and my final point, you defiantly DID NOT calm down long ago. -- 21:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * after a while sitting on the damn mat i decided the best thing to do is to apologize, sorry fr losing my temper, i just feel that some admins and those who are close to them are crosing the line between that is acceptable and what isin't, i'm sorry for losing my cool, but i believe that i totally did not deserve a week-long block 21:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Btz I am going to be Frank with you. A lot of people don't like you, and you don't like a lot of people. I don't know what you/their problem is, but I generally try to stay out of the personal drama. I think that, while not obvious to all, you have potential in a lot of areas. Your interest in martial arts shows focus and self control on your part, and a will to do so. I simply wonder why you can't focus that power here as well. I don't like to sadistically block people because I find it fun. I simply try to keep the encyclopedia a safe and comfortable place for everybody. It is obvious that you have calmed down, and I applaud you for that, as it is much quicker this time than in the past. I don't know what you did ( sitting on the damn mat ) but whatever it takes, keep doing it, I suggest. I feel that a lot of hard feelings about you could be overlooked were you to practice this self control thing more often. The people that ask you to calm down and maybe take a walk, spend some time offline, etc. are trying to help you. It's not fun to watch people get so pissed off, but you have to understand that we're all people behind the screen. Everybody here has feelings, just like you. There are ways to express them without getting angry. And I know you know how to do it, you just did. Talking about your problems with people and finding a diplomatic solution will show much more maturity on your part, and people will respect you a lot more. In regards to your block, I think you can agree, as you stated above, that you lost your temper and offended many people, which does go against policy. Your block record is a bit larger than most, but I chose to give you a 1 week block rather than something like 3 months. I hope in the next 167 or so hours, you will internalize what you are learning from your kung fu instructor, as I'm sure he has much to teach. You obviously learned something, now the goal is to apply it in all areas of your life. I beg of you Btz, don't get yourself banned, as everybody carries with them knowledge that only you have. You have a very stand-offish attitude, but with some work, I think you can grow to like us. I would be more than happy to allow you to vent to me in private chat or my own cc chat, if it's what you need. I don't mind talking to people and trying to help them with their issues. We all have issues, and we all have a past. But let's try to put our issued in the past and move forward. You have your whole life ahead of you, and while this community on the internet won't move with you, I assure you there are tons of people with life experiences here who you can learn something from. 21:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i know you're a married man and possibly have kids the age of me, that's why i didn't go mad, ill just go attacking the wooden dummy then 21:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No kids your age, don't think I could do kids right now lol. I'm not trying to piss you off, simply trying to offer help. You know how to focus though, as you've calmed down faster today than I ever have seen you before. Would you log on and add me real quick? 21:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * to be frank with you, i'm not adding you and have addd u to ignore, evn through i resopect u, that is it, i don't like you, i seriously don't like u, to be honest i could've treated you the same way i did to Soldier 1033 on RSCW, and i know they don't like me, big deal, 08:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I'm not asking anyone to like me, all we need on the rsw is respect. Thanks for the response =) 13:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh great, i broke off the left arm of the wooden dummy in a punch, now my dad has to buy a new one 14:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I take the apology back, the more i think about it the more dumb i feel for typing that, in that time it was hard to enter a comment without swearing 11:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It's fair to say that i hate you, it's worse than dislike, and i dislike you more than i ever disliked soldier and/or kevin 13:24, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * you don't care, yeah you don't, do you? well none of you know what i can go through and whatg you can't, i dont have a pathetic life abusing my powers and sadistically doing what i wish. i dont drive people mental and to the edge of their first heart attack, do i? i dont rule wikis like hitler in nazi germany, do i? yet i have to endure all these being thrown at me with the scorn of hypocrites who frankly dosen't know a damn about me yet talk to me like they're my parents, none of you would take my thinkings into consideration, do you? you all wish that im a slave lhistening to your stupid rules while having people who can indirectly imnsult me whenever they want! Can you just sit there and take it with all the blackmail crap? i do, do you endure indirect insults from those who think they're cool and sadistic and block me with their coolness? i have, do you get kicked from the cc for some tiny thing and then get kicked again before you can explain? i get it. and none of you can even train martial arts on a wooden dummy without breaking your arms! i can! do you know how sick i am of this year long crap i have been taking from some of you guys? and then you expect me to smile and take it all? well then FINE! do as you damn wish! you lecture me on the user treatment policy and crap, then why do you break it yourselves? i have been taking shit from hypocrites and i had enough! 13:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I never claimed to know anything about your personal life that you hadn't already disclosed. Everybody has problems Btz, and we all deal with them differently. I extended my hand to offer you help in whatever way I could, you you declined. Your feelings toward me are regrettable, considering the amount of respect I have shown you. I do care Btz, because I once was troubled, as you appear to be. It's the people who choose to hold it in though, that often have issues later on in life. If you don't want to talk to me, that's fine. But know that I'm here if you change your mind. =) 13:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * you can be as sure as hell ill never do, compare the cc and here, ha! when i tell them to shut up, i get kicked and they say they have a right to say whatever they want, and yet here i get blocked for the same thing! i don't need your respect, respect from you are worth less than the chewing gum on the pavement, if you have some decent rewspect towards me, the best thing you can do is to go and never contact me again, since for i know i am barred from any throughts of revenge whatsoever, what a hell of a world i live in 15:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I will take your talk off my watchlist then. Hope all works out for you in the end. =) 15:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * bye! i hate you! 15:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:good
"i hate you too, maybe i should be vandalising your userpage and swear at you, but since im more decent than you, i wont, mind your own business"


 * 1) Vandalizing my userpage would defiantly not be a good idea.
 * 2) I don't see how you are "more decent than me", you asked people to sign if they disliked you and to put it quite simply, I dislike you.
 * 3) I would be glad to mind my own business if you would stop complaining about this wiki and the people who contribute to it.  Editing a wiki is not a job, its something you do for fun.  If you don't enjoy doing it, then you shouldn't do it anymore!

Cheers- 20:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Get lost 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

you really should stop complaining... =/ http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/runescape/images/b/b6/Catspeak_amulet.png Xana Attack http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/runescape/images/0/0d/Cabbage.PNG 21:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * you really Should get lost before i lose it 08:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks Btzkillerv! See you later,. 15:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

RE:Unprotect
Done. 19:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your userpage.
I know you asked me not to contact you, but I noticed what you added to your talk page today in regards to talking to you about helping you become a more "liked" person, and I simply wanted to know if that offer was extended to myself. If it does, my offer of talking in game, e-mail, or anywhere "off the record" so you're free to vent without people flaming you for speaking your mind still stands. =) 17:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * i do need some kind of guidance, but not from you, anyway 17:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Please help me
Hello. I am 16:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC). I play runescape as a free player. I was wondering what some good money-making monsters (aside from hill giants and flesh crawlers,) that I could train on. I am level 42 combat, but not a pure. However, I am only level 5 range. I am about 35 melee and 42 magic. I have defence 30, but only wear mith armour. Can you help me? Thanks, 16:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC). P.S. Im going for the drops, not xp. Thanks, (again) -- 23:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC).

Re: Apologize
Btz,

I have expressed myself to you, and have opened myself to you, letting you know that I am available to talk should you ever need to. I have been told by one person that it sounded condescending, but that was not my intent. You have been given opportunities, and you never seem to take them. You are very rude to people, overly aggressive, and downright mean most of the time. I have done nothing rude to you; only my responsibility as an administrator. While I cannot decide alone what happens to you (in regards of banning) I felt strongly that the topic need discussed, else I would not have brought it up. Despite all of the chances you have been given, you refused to change, and blame others for your issues. I will still talk to you about your personall issues in game if you wish, or on AIM (suntigerrevival). But I think you are too disruptive, personally, to remain a member of this community. The community may disagree with me, we will just have to wait. 20:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have unprotected your page to allow you to attempt to make apologies. I stand by my decision in the Yew Grove. Please use this opportunity to make positive conversation on here. I will watch this closely, please be respectful to everyone. 20:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i'm sorry, everyone, for my rude and vulgar behavior on my talk, i am sorry for many things.. sometimes i manage to hold it, sometimes i dont,

Christine - sorry for insulting you here, i guess everything was twisted from when i started on this wiki, im rude, i mean, im hurtful i'm... many things. i know you treated me like you did, but... it was my own fault, my bitchy, stupid behavior and the cuss page i made caused it, you dont respect me because i was being an idiot from the beginning and i won't change, therefore you naturally didn't respect me that much, and i'm fine with that, it was all my fault, i was rude, i was bitchy, i didnt stay calm... i was silly and rude and hurtful, im a prat and i didnt know how to treat everyone fairly. im sorry that i posted that rude message, as unjustified some of your behavior on the cc was, i began it all. please forgive me, i know that you're unlikely to ever like me, but i hope that this can help settle some of the problems, i have anger problems, so i can take it out, again, im sorry

to everyone else, i'm sorry i made myself look like nothing more than a troll, it's all my fault and i regret that, i ask you here to forgive me, if you will give me the chance, i wish to do my best and turn over a new leaf, i realise my idiolic behavior is intimidating, and i regret that, im sorry to everyone whom i offended before, now or later, i have anger problems which in real life, and i shouldn't let it get to me here, i sincerely ask you here to forgive me and grant me one more chance to turn over a new leaf. thank you 20:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i apologize for blowing it, i just need..... a while to calm down, can the wiki give me ONE MORE CHANCE, i am sincerely sorry for what i did, can you people put me on probation and give me guidances so that i can become a better person? i think i need a slight wikibreak, i need help and guidance and stuff so that i wont lose it again.. help me, please, i would love to have a chance to start afresh and reconcille my relations with everyone 21:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The only way I think I could possibly accept your apologies is with stipulations. One more slip up and you agree to a perm ban. Also, I will be more than happy to talk to you in game, IRC, AIM, whatever. However, at this time, I still stand by my decision in the Yew Grove. 21:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

karlis - i know you think im mad and all that... im so sorry i lost it with you, and azaz, im so sorry i broke the agreement, please give me a long probation, guidance and help me be a better person, tell me when i'm overboard, and please, help me! i dont want to blow it, i just want to be a better person, its miserable having everyone to dislike you, therefore i need all the guidance and help i can get, i lost my temper at christine, and i am sorry for that, i made a big mistake typing that comment, but that was because of stuff in the clan chat, please give me one more chance to redeem myself 21:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

- :i wont blow t, help me not to, i promise it, please give me 1 more chance, i dont want to blow it, thank you 21:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I do remain 100% by my suggestion to ban. I still wish to talk to you to offer help with real-life problems. 21:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Why do you want to stay on the wiki so badly? Remaining on the wiki, in my opinion, is not going to help you very much because there is still a chance that something will spark up and ignite you, which won't do you any good, will it?. A block/ban will give you time to think this over and redeem yourself. We're not trying to be mean...we're trying to help you. 21:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

i know what you mean, but a long block won't be necessary, ill be on a wikibreak to think my things over, and i need helf from everyone to make myself a better person 11:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

i read the yew grove and i wasn't surprised by those who want a permblock for me, but they're quite mistaken on me, the previous blocks wern't related to last chance, christine blocked me because i had troubles with rendove, but that time i had a bad week, the other time, i wasn't even flaming in terms of throwing blatant insults and all that, i was just upset that i am treated with little respect by some, the recent outburst was because christine kicked me in the clan chat after i added her on ignore, i said that i didn't know what she said and i didn't want to, therefore, she kicked me, this was upsetting and considering what she had posted earlier on the cc, i lost my nerve 11:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * the support votes on my issue was upsetting, they do not know what happened and they lhistened to one-sided accounts, they refuse to hear my side of the story and thinks that im nothing more than a troll. and karlis, if you do not want me here, then i feel no need to contact you further about real-life issuesm, i apoligised, i did my best, it's unfair that i'm being viewed the way i am now, i done more for the wiki than not, and i never really vandalised. i hate the fact that i'm being seen as someone like total, i done much less than what he does, and the chances you speak of, i have never heard of apart from the one with azaz, that was a year ago. 15:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i want the chance to repent ahd re-habilitate, im not as evil or bad as everyone thinks i am, and others done things worse than waht i've done and gotten away with it. i want to change and become better and make friends or at least peace with everyone, please, give me the chance, it hurts to see whose who say i don't mean it. i want to do my best, just give me the chance and watch over me to help me be better 15:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * the yew grove section on me has litrally turned into a popularity poll, it is insulting to see the malicious comments made by some of those people, i hated being treated like dirt but still did, i had enough and screwed up, and now these people carry on like before and still treat me like dirt, thats what trigged it all, i am human and has feelings like any one of you, none of you know how it feels to be treated like dirt by the power and get punished when you finally has to vent your feelings, what do you expect? im being treated like dirt, i said sorry but these people thinks im gaming the system.... well i'm not! i mean it for real, and the comments by those who dosen't know me properly and those who simply dislike me are malicious. everyone has limits, i reached mine because a lot of you treat me like dirt, i had enough, i exploded on my own talk, and i get punished... fair enough. but gossipping about me as if im unhuman is simply too much. why can't you guys afford some respect and treat me like a human being? im sorry for letting it out but the yew grove discussion is simpyl slander, slander, indirect insult and downright disrespect. i don't enjoy complaining like this, but i reached my limits on what they think about me, just... please, treat me with some respect and like a human being, im not made from wood, i have feelings 15:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * After the way you've been treating people for the past year, you have the nerve to say we're treating you like dirt? You brought this upon yourself. We are not gossiping or slandering you. All the evidence we need is above on your talk page. You're inconsiderate, rude, and at times downright abusive to people. You knew the stipulations when you returned, and you failed to adhere to them. You went on (a few paragraphs before this one) stating "reasons" why you got blocked. Re-read it, all you did was blame other people. You cannot take responsibility for your actions, even after all this time. If you truly felt sorry, you would accept responsibility instead of saying "he/she set me off" and "I blew up because of what soandso said." 15:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i don't expect you to understand, i didn't take a screenshot of "so-and-so"'s ingame actions and i have no intrest of whatsoever now, you are determined to see my downfall and i know that, yes, more or less so, i agree with you, it was ALL my fault, i screwed up on my first day with christine, therefore, she has a right to hate me, i understand, quite the contary to what you said, i take 90% responsibility for what i did, i just read it and truly and honestly felt guilty and i felt like a fool, but, it's too late, i presume that this will be one of the last things i can post before i end up like total rune, because i guess people like you will not let a chance in hell to let me back here and probrably will never forgive me, well. *sighs* that's life and fate for me, just make sure the wiki's free from vandals and whoever made the same mistakes like me 15:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Your ban is not set in stone. It requires a community consensus. There are people who feel you deserve yet another chance. It is up to everyone, not just me. 16:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * there're more people who hates me than those who don't, if i'm banned, then good luck with the wiki, and when you have a kid and he browses this wiki, just make sure he dosent grow up to be someone like me, well. i guess this is one of the lase. if it works out for me, i need some friendly and helpful admins to guide me in my rehab and probation point as well as helping me to re-build my wikiwide public relations. whichever way, i doube that ill cross paths with you again, which will presumbly be a relief to those who dislike me here. 16:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I fail to see how i have not been friendly or helpful throughout this whole ordeal, but to each his own. I don't recall seing any other admins offering to talk to you after everything you got away with. Just my observation. 16:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm destined to cross paths with you and dislike you, it's called fate, and no one can change that, i appreciate your efforts, but both you and me know it is too late for my wiki-life on this wiki 16:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There's no reason why you can't ask for my assistance outside of the wiki. Few people know that I was in intensive 6-hour a day, 7 day a week therapy for over 2-years. I've learned to listen rather well. Your choice though. 16:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm destined to dislike you, i don't need your real-life help, after all that has happened between us, it will be impossible for me to be on good terms with you enough to do that, i see your effort, but like you said earlier, my feelings towards you are regrettable, maybe, but i probrably won't ever swich this feeling in the forseeable future 16:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * oh yeah, just tell the other guys to be aware of an upcoming riot, JaGEx's party room changes are bound to be disliked 16:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * there's no point in denying that i've been treated like dirt, i take some responsibility, but not all, christine does not respect me, she sarcastically typed stuff which was intimidating, i was not allowed to add her on ignore, i was not allowed to complain when she sarcastically makes fun of a question i made which had no relation to her, and she kicks me when i simply said i didn't know what she said and i don't want to know, this wasn't one account, she kicked me for talking about things, i used another account to return to the cc and ask who did it, she said yes and kicked me again, thats what sparked the first one, what i said about her kicking me for saying that i don't know and dont want to was the one which trigged me to type in that comment a way above, i didn't go to her own page to type that anyway, i did it here, i was upset, i was angry, i had reached my limit, so i lost my nerve, yes, i have the nerve to say that, no matter how much you and some others tried to demonise me, the fact remains that for everything i did, i was provoked, Rob blocked me because i lost my temper at christine for deleting my pics, which i admin, that action of mine was downright daft, but you here saaying that i have been responsible for my own misrty is an added insult, i tried to be calm, i tried to be doing my best, but if christine done the same on her own talk, would you do the same, yes, i regret what i did, yes, what i did was wrong, but in no way should anyone talk about me in such a malicious manner, some dislike me and therefore does not give me respect, part of that may be because of my own behavior, but your accusing comments are TOO much. i accept my responsibility for blowing up, but saying whoever triggered it is guiltless is wrong 16:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i know that i done a very bad thing by typing the cursing comment, yes, its my fault, i apologised, i was sorry for doing what i did, i want to make peace with christine, who wants to know everyone hates you? not me, why are people assumbing bad faith at me when i simply had a loss of temper? i reached my limit, everyone has one, its no use trying to deny that i have one, its reached, i blew up, i shouldn't have, i need people to help be to become a better person to get rid of that limit, but it seems not many are willing to help 16:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I am saying that in the end, you are responsible for your thoughts, feelings, and actions. People can piss you off, but it's when you make the active choice to home here and say what you said where all the responsibility is on you. There were several other choices you could have made to vent your anger, and you chose the one that hurt other people. You can let somebody know you are pissed off or upset or pissed without blowing up and dropping 10 F-bombs. Civil conversations get you much further, similar to the one we have been having. I apologize for any typos, my work computer is having a hard time on your talk page. 16:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * everyone needs an e-vent, i want a corner to vent out my feelings, when i do it on my talk, you assassinate me with a flick of a swich, can you just.... if i get unblocked, can you make a gym area on my page where i can just curse and vent all i want just to to let it out? everyone needs to curse when they get pissed to such a degree they need to let it out, the gym area comments will not be taken seriosuly, it's just an area where i can scream my head off without offending people outright 16:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I wonder though, why do you want to post them for everyone to read? I personally think it would be safer if you made a myspace or facebook or some blog, just to rant. That way people can read it, but you're off-site and welcome to do what you wish. It's the ranting on here that violates our policy. Doing it offiste, away from the wiki will still allow you to rant, but keep yourself safe from the reprocussions. 17:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't even need to do it online. Do it in real life. Go in your room, shut the door, and curse all you want. I'm sure it will make you feel better to curse out loud than to type them. And it's 100% guaranteed to not offend anyone here. 17:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have a Wooden dummmy to train on for that matter, but i just need to drop f bombs, my neighbours will hear my cursing and that wont have a good effect, and the person who caused me misery will be blissfully oblivious to my rage, which frankly isint gonna help, i need to tell them that i'm pissed, abeit on the other corner i can vent my feelings, oh yeah thats all for today 17:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i need a chance to reh-habilitate, i done my wrongs, i screwed up, io forgot the contract... i need to turn a new leaf, give me one more chance, and give me guidance to let me become trusted and liked again, i promise i will never break rules again, just give me one more chance, if i break this promise, you should indef me outright, just please, give me one final chance, and i would like tot talk with everyone who voted for me to be indefed, please, give me suggestions to re=start my wiki life here, please give me one more chance to begin again 13:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * To atlandy, powers, byte master, dave lopo, instantwinston, hurston, colo, bonzi etc.

I need to talk, im being demonised,, lies are on the yew grove, and karlis is determined to get me banned, yes, i might have flunked that one, yes i done a wrong, but can you just talk to me? everyone has problems and limits, im in a state of misery, i never said i refuted responsibility, but it seems like you guys are determined to assassinate me, you don't know how much pain you caused, how hurtful it is to see people, people i trust, voting for my banishment, like chia said, this is tellimg me to f*ck off and calling me a scumbag, this is wiki-cruelty, i want to turn over a new leaf, yet you regard me as an unforgivable troll, talk to me, i want to start afresh, yet... it seems like everyone's just going to deny me the chance of so. i did wrong, i screwed up, i want to re-start my wiki career and be a new person, i know if you still will deny me the chance, but before i end up like total rune, i would like to have a word with each and every one of you, thank you 16:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * before i leave the wiki with the ban i would like to re-build my relationship with kevin, christine, rendova, soldier etc, i want to apologise for all the stupid things i've done to you, directly or indirectly, i just want to have a clean death on the wiki before i do, please, let me talk, and thank you 16:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have provided evidence of your last 6 apologies, 2 or 3 retirings from the wiki, 1 ban, and 3 blocks. Why is it now that you're about to be banned that you have miraculously changed? You've been given chance after chance after chance for almost a year, and have done nothing but abuse everyone's trust. You've blown your chances. Sorry. 16:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * because after reading the yew grove i realised how much of an idiot i am, it's my fault, i do not deny it, i lost my nerve, but you're intimidating messages does nothing to help along with your determination to assassinate me from the wiki, you also said that i threated people with violence, which is a blatant lie, i regret my actions, i should've throught bout it forst, but your actions aganist me are insulting, you are outright refusing me to re-start me wiki career and be a new person, this is hurtful. 16:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You may check the evidence, I recall off the top of my head 2 threats in there. Also, you have had many chances to re-start. You have insulted dozens of the people on this wiki, and I have done nothing but remain cool-headed, kept a calm and civil tone with you this whole time. I have repeatedly offered my help off-site, and you have aggressively and kindly refused multiple times. It is clear from your actions that you show no desire to change your ways. I find it very unlikely that this time, after 6 apologies, one of which was taken back, that you will be any different. You know I'm willing to help, yet you don't want my help. Who else has offered? I feel I have handled this situation with the upmost care, concern, and respect, yet you claim I am intimidating, insulting, and trying to assassinate you? My response to that is simple - Everything was brought upon yourself by you. 16:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i ws silly, i was impurdent, but i sincerely want to change, but you're refusing me this chance outright, i said i want a probation and guidance to help me re-build my wiki life, but it's clear you're determined to deny me this chance, i admit, i cause everything that happened to me, and now i regret it, im genuinely sorry, yet it seems that you're determined to banish me from the wiki once and for all, correct? i'm doing my best to change my ways and never let f*ck-ups like this happen again, but you're denying the chance for me to show that i never will let it happen again 16:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It is true I am requesting you be banned for continuous violation of RS:UTP, constant personal attacks and offensive language yes. It is also true that I don't feel you deserve a, what, 7th chance? 17:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * it's 2nd chance, and if you don't believe me, who will, i can kill myself and take my heart out to you, that's how i really mean everything i said here 17:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * How the hell is this a second chance? Also, threats such as that have no place here. We have every reason to contact authorities in your area if you suggest something so serious on the site. Christine 17:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * that wasn't a threat, i'm saying that i'm sincere, also, do you accept my apology or not? (its ok if you say no) 17:08, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You've done nothing but slander me or cuss me out. You deserve a permanent ban. Of course I do not. Christine 17:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually I correct myself, 5th chance. Your second was unblocking your ban. 3rd was for blanking pages, 4th was for violation of UTP, as was the 5th. (edit conflict) 17:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

cvl stop flaming everyone!!!!, karlis give him his 6th chance and if he break the runes he will get perma-banned ok -- 17:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * FFS. Do you even know what flaming someone means? I didn't flame at all! How the hell did I flame? Threatening to kill yourself IS something that can be reported, and it HAS happened to people before, such as Total Rune on Wikipedia. And did you even READ what you wrote? SIX chances and you still want to give him more? What the hell? Christine 17:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

STOP FLAMING!

Cvl your just threatening people and offending them with your "lenguage" you are offending every-one who opposes to you.

-- 17:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Retrieved from User talk:Clv309
 * Now AGAIN. Tell me what I said in there that was flaming? Tell me how telling someone not to threaten to kill themselves is flaming. Tell me how "hell" is more offensive than "you're a bitch christine, you are a goddamned power abuser...you seem to enjoy seeing me taking your fucking retarded crap huh? your stupid laments, your sarcastic insults, your bitchy mood, what the fuck do you think you can do, eh? you love making my life miserable, you sadistic power-abusing piece of shit. you have no life, all the fuck you do is to insult me, give me no respect and your blackmail crap. who the fuck do you think you are...? how the fuck did you get your crap freedom of speech while i don't? so you can say whatever your goddamned retarded want, while i can't say a damn thing? who do you think you are? you fucking call me a troll for what i did, which didn't deserve all that crap? go to hell!" You too are nothing but a slanderer, Water Kunai. Christine 17:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Although I have nothing to do with this discussion, I'd like to clarify that Christine wasn't the one who asked me to kick you. 17:39, 18 March 2009 (UTC)