User talk:Salix of Prifddinas

Cosmetics
Thanks for adding those sub cats to the weapon overrides. I wasn't sure how to add subcats. Awesome job!! 11:21, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Abilities
Hi Salix... I noticed that Flurry in the Attack section of Abilities page is listed as a non-member ability.. just a bit cautious to make the change in case I'm not understanding something. Flurry is a member theshold ability...maybe its the way it's presented meaning that the table is trying to show non-member abilties?Wynn Andye (talk) 22:33, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Release dates
Hey, quick reminder based on your edit summary: Forum:Release date clarification says that we should leave them all at 3/9, and mention the actual obtainable dates ingame, as you yourself suggested. :P 10:20, March 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hehe I just wanted to reference a thread that I closed myself. There's too many of them now for me to remember so I felt a little proud of myself that I actually remembered this one. ^_^ 10:36, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

I believe the issue is one too many tildes, not a forgotten tilde
^.^ 19:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Patch notes
Thanks! But most of the credit should go to Mod Stu for acquiescing to my request. And Robo Hobo helped with the research back in the day. 07:10, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Deadliest Catch
I'm curious why have you removed all the information on post-quest voyages that are needed for completionist? It's seems to me that good information is being removed.Wynn Andye (talk) 22:21, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see what you have done now. Thalassus is a better place for the information. Wynn Andye (talk) 21:16, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Skelux
Yeah, just kinda lost with trying to do stuff now, can't really design my page that well lol, I'll leave it simple and easier to look at though.Aurich (talk) 12:49, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

You should check your discord DMs, I send you another picture of it.Aurich (talk) 12:59, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Css
Your name was too long http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scuzzybeta/images/5/54/Success.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20170327165441 so i made it longer -- 16:55, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Lunarfury images
Nope Salix, the images are not uploaded by me (nor do I own the outfits). I am responsible for moving the files to the correct names and trans' them only. -- 09:08, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Onyx
whats with this edit? Onyx level is 67 bruh -- 21:17, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, they must've not updated it in the crafting guide yet, then -- 15:15, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

RE:YouTube link
Oh, I'm sorry if I wasn't specific enough. It's just that he replaced the link with a link to his own pk video. 11:54, April 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Lol wait what? I'm so lost right now. I checked the link he placed in there and it puts me to his pking video. I opened it twice again after you mentioned it and I'm not getting the documentary. (Which reminds me, I need to continue that)  12:00, April 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * I will also keep note on the proper way to write "YouTube". Haha. 12:26, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

RSN?
What's your rsn? Add me Bren R

Guthixian transcripts
Good spot. I redirected the transcript on Guthixian Memories to the event transcript as that's what I double-checked. Someone with rights should probably remove Transcript:Guthixian Memories. Thingummywut (talk) 22:09, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Wat
Salix is weird. Also Hi!! - 20:07, April 16, 2017 (UTC)

Shades
I'd like to consult you regarding naming conventions for shades (not the Sepulchre of Death ones). Here's the thing; How should we go about doing this? Last time failed. 14:30, April 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Shades in Mort'ton and the catacombs when on the ground, are called Name 'Shadow'. When you attack them and they rise up, this does not change. Their examine text does, however.
 * 2) However, if they attack you (due to aggressiveness), they become 'Name Shade'. Their examine also changes.
 * 3) In Temple Trekking, they are called 'Name shade', I think, with a lower case S. I am uncertain, but I think they might not have the special attack that shades normally do there.
 * 4) The exception is Fiyr shades, which are simply called 'Shade'.

Wahisietel
I Didn't noticed before, thanks for correcting my mistake :D Taiago (talk) 21:18, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Details
Track (noun): a rough path or road created through frequent use rather than construction 15:44, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Transcript - TokTz-Ket-Dill
Salix.. you have edited Transcript of TokTz-Ket-Dill while I was editing and I have lost all my work. I realize that there is way to work on this without two editors on a document but I don't understand it yet. I have lost 6-7 continuous hours of dialogue addition on this 2008 quest (worked from 10pm - 4am). Unfortunately, the opportunity to recover the dialogue again is lost because I have moved on too far in the quest. I am beyond discouraged... what I do want to say is that this is not the first time this has happened. It was a very difficult and complicated quest dialogue and it is a shame it is lost for a few minor edits. I just wish you had considered that I am new with the Wiki, that this situation has happened with another quest, and that the save changes said "in progress." If there is a way you can rectify this I hope you can for the Wiki. "Wynn Andye (talk) 10:24, April 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * I guess these things happen. I will have to learn to use the "under construction" and save more often. I was upset at the time but over it now. Thanks for your reply. Wynn Andye (talk) 04:35, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

RE: MEP 1/2 renames
Yeah, sorry! I literally just realized that and was about to go back and fix that on the pages I changed.

--Svetroid (talk) 03:24, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Signature
I did every step on the signature help page; the template looks to work as it should, and I've added it to my preferences... But my signature's not showing up?

Edit: Nevermind, apparently I just needed to make a new post somewhere. Thank you anyway :D 23:40, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Transcript:Hero's Welcome
I... wasn't sure what they were for, mainly because I've never used them when I edit transcript pages. Sorry if it was wrong for me to remove them. WTFmybacon (talk) 16:37, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Visual Editor
I often use a mix of the visual editor and the source editor. I often use piped links very intentionally, because I feel like lobsters looks much better, with the s included in the link. I was not aware (and have since been informed) that doing this is against the style guide, and will regretfully stop doing it.

Do you know, perhaps, if there's any particular reason for that? I hold guidelines in high esteem, but I can't wrap my head around why editors should have to make links that - in my opinion, at least - frankly look strange. Am I the only one that thinks they look better when the whole word is linked, instead of every letter but the s?

Sorry for doing this, I'll avoid it from now on. And thanks in advance for your response :) 07:39, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: Okay, I am entirely confused now. When I was looking at it before, the s's weren't included in the links, which is why I piped them. Looking at the current version where you removed the piped links, the s's are in the links. But... they weren't before? 07:45, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

A Towering Feast
"it's not on the quest list, nor is this the icon shown on the non existent accept quest screen for this holiday event"

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/runescape2/images/8/8f/A_Towering_Feast_icon.png/revision/20111221200406

It's also used on the NPCs and Items related to the event.

http://i.imgur.com/Q3Jdhr2.png

It's a quest icon for all intents and purposes. 16:53, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * All the other infoboxes are using the right click icons too though? They're just smaller versions of the quest accept screen icon. The fact that Towering Feast is a holiday event in addition to being a quest doesn't change the fact it has a quest icon, and I don't really see the argument for not using it on the infobox. 11:37, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, apparently the other ones aren't using the mini-icons, I assumed they were because they were uploaded as files ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 11:40, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Navbox* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:01, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * 2011 Easter event (although the images are terrible), 2011 Hallowe'en event and 2012 Christmas event also do. 13:37, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * The Yew Grove proposal was for the mini icons from right-click menus to be used (and presumably no image whatsoever if such icon does not exist, since the quest icons from the accept screen (ugh that screen) look bad when scaled down). By RS:UCS, A Towering Feast counts as a quest for this purpose. In fact it is a quest, just not accessible at the moment. When released, it was actually in the quest list and had quest mechanics and interfaces. There is no reason not to use the icon. 17:52, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, the accept screen icons look plain bad when downsized and shouldn't be used if you ask me, and it's clear now what Manpaint's proposal was. Also, zebras are definitely equine, and hooves aren't characteristic to horses. As for A Towering Feast, it's a quest in every single thinkable property apart from being temporary, which is not something even remotely relevant to whether or not its icon should be used, if we proceed with that idea. 19:11, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you please stop adding downsized quest icons to the navboxes? They do not look nice at all. 06:58, May 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * That is plain bureaucratism - as if a fraudulent banker would say 'sue me' when told to stop. These icons look bad and they aren't what was suggested in the first place. 16:52, May 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Why would you not "allow" the removal of something that looks bad? I know you put a lot of effort into adding all those icons and that's appreciated, of course, but you've got to admit that they have to go. 06:31, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Spirit Gems
Hi!, I noticed the changes you made to the spirit gems to make the (a) versions into links. I was initially going to do that until I noticed that the (a) pages all redirect back to the regular version. So basically it's a link to itself lol. Just wanted to make sure that's what you intended :) 23:10, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

You really don't have to keep doing this
Make Gareth do something when he gives the title out. 00:21, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Titles
It is easy enough to sort the titles by region column, yes. But that does not show the requirements to get them all together in one place. The current titles article requires me to look at each title individually. I'm in Prifddinas; there are some titles that are simple to do, like the Challenged or Sweet Tooth. And there are others that require buying a cape(s) costing like 1m gp each, which I'm not gonna do for a title. Querying wikia for Elven titles is a crapshoot; I usually end up here and not on Prif page.

The Prifddinas article already shows these titles in a group (unless you have decided to Be Bold and remove something helpful.) It's a good resource specifically because it includes the requirements. I think doing that for all of the titles on the title page might turn it into a circus. Maybe not. Lazy people like me want to see which titles we can get easily. It is simple if you were playing when they were released. But now you have to depend on the regional or sub-articles to tell you.

This article shows the origin and meaning of the title, and is useful if you see someone with the title and want the origin/meaning. But you could just as easily query that. I made the High Scores addition just to explain "wtf why are there so many titles with the same names?"

I'm babbling. Please restore the link, it was helpful. Pokemama1 (talk) 10:48, May 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * New topic, same page, lol. When sorted by source, the ## of loyalty points is not sorted by ascending order, but by the first number in the text. I realize this is not an easy fix because it is obviously a text field, not numeric. It is painful to see in the dungeoneering shop as well. Numbers can be parsed from a text field but this needs to happen throughout the wiki and that is way above my knowledge.
 * I think perhaps the individual title page template has a few weaknesses. I wanted to add (top 100) in parentheses to look nice for the main titles article, but due to the infobox on the individual page it would be displayed inside another set of parentheses. I understand your desire to template and collect things so that they are changed everywhere at once. However, this does make life more challenging for the average wikia editor, especially one using visual editor who can't even see that a template is being fetched. I've been a regular wikipedian since 2004 and have an engineering degree, so it's not like I'm helpless here, just new. But if we want everyone to be able to add info to the wikia, it should be accessible and not overly complicated. IMHO the most intricate and elegant capabilities of wikia software should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Use for compiling drop tables is perfect. The "universal quest reward" template was a Good Thing and now is somewhat incomprehensible. Not saying I have a 100% solution - but I think it's important to remain aware of the issue.
 * also is there a way to direct message you rather than posting publicly on your talk page? Pokemama1 (talk) 19:03, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Count Check
I Checked, Count Check is Checking acCount security north of Lumbridge Crater for Customer Security Week 2017 11:02, May 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * I Checked, Count Check has Checked out of the Stronghold

RE:Navboxes
Aye, that was my intent eventually. I was planning on creating navboxes for each piece of lore then creating stuff like categories. Was actually going to ask for your help once I was done with actually creating the navboxes and categories and such, as I'm currently just using a basic navbox but was planning on using a specially created navbox layout that'd add categories and transcripts etc similar to how Quest navbox does. As fer "Personalities", does "Characters" sound better? 07:42, May 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * That's why I'm creating them as navboxes before I create them as specialised navboxes, but if it's quite all right I'd like to keep Varrock in the Legend of Arrav navbox, given its significance to the story. Better getting the flaws out of the way in the testing stage.  And before ye say I should also remove Reldo, I'm planning on making a specialised navbox for him anyway, as he already has a double digit of navboxes  14:30, May 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay I've created all bar 2 lore navboxes, and I'm nae touching them until all the fuss has been dealt with. When ye've got a moment, can ye create something similar to the Quest navbox for lore please?  There's half a dozen that are ready to be used for testing purposes, rest just need a few pages created  20:26, May 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Doubt we'll need anything else. Think everything else is minor enough to count as "related" and Jagex have stated they're nae that keen on releasing further lores  21:37, May 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course - I only shortened the names for those 2 articles cause I couldnae be bothered writing out A True and Concise History of the Discovery of the Runes in brackets every time 22:06, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Grufeld Bach
Grufeld Bach has naething to do with the original version of the quest. That is why I removed him. Only reason why he was on there in the first place was cause he was replaced in 2014 and somebody decided to shunt all the stuff changed/removed from the 2013 version onto the 2001 version, including the transcript, which despite linking from the 2001 version has naething to do with the 2001 version at all. Unless if my memory has betrayed me and Grufeld Bach held the fourth Sliverlight key. If Bach belongs anywhere it's on the current version template with a note that he's been removed 15:29, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Section headers
I added casing to the section headers after checking other pages first to make sure that's how they should be. Sliske's Endgame, specifically, as it was the first to come to mind. Should the headers on that one not have similar casing?

Also, my bad on the bolding. They don't show up as bold in the visual editor and I'm still trying to break my habit of using it >.< 20:20, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Messages in bottles rotation
The rotation of one every two days, one every three days, etc is not even revealed on the castaways page as a simple intelligent explanation. It's hidden in a formula: only the previous, current and future days are listed. I would have added this information on the specific page if it was revealed to me, but it was not.

Rather than forcing the user to click links until they find out what mentality the organizer had, perhaps you should put ONE set of information on the bottle itself, and pick that up to assemble into a grid (as you have done with the titles.) Right now the bottles are mentioned (1) on The Arc article, (2) on each minor island article (which would be considered by wikipedia as unworthy of its' own article, but okay on RuneScape fansites we want to deliver more), (3) on the person's page, (4) on the item page (as well as disambiguation), and only finally (5) collected into a useful table so that the player has ONE page to plan and track his/her search. The other pages don't have that ONE piece of info needed: where and when can I find this bottle?! I realize it's annoying to repeat info in multiple places and then try to keep them all updated, but hiding the info is not the answer. Maybe that's where your collecting of info from the item via nav boxes should come in. (See suggestion in new topic below.)

Link proliferation is part of the problem here. The Arc wiki links to ALL of these, the island, the bottle, the character, etc in The Arc article. Send people to one place only, and link the minor bits from there. When I finally discovered the Castaways main article I added it to the Arc page as the "Main article" link; it wasn't there before and caused this page-hopping nightmare. Pokemama1 (talk) 16:39, May 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * A smart remark like "now it has been revealed to you" is not helpful. Saying "the first bottle spawns every x days" is meaningless outside of the order of the castaways lists: the turtle islands are 7th, 8th and 9th on that list. It is straight in your mind and so you think it should be "obvious" to everyone. It is not. One of the things that motivates a player to contribute is that they ran into difficulty using the wika information, and they want to clarify it to make life better for other players. Removing clarifications and explanations is counterproductive. It's obstructive. And it's petty.

(edit: forgot to sign.) Pokemama1 (talk) 20:10, May 22, 2017 (UTC) Pokemama1 (talk) 20:12, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Leaving your scent
I posted a version of the following two paragraphs on the talk pages of Ciphrius and "seven-eyes", but my rant was really inspired by your actions, so I've changed it. I also added the third paragraph.

I appreciate that you guys are trying to make the wikia great. I am too. I get that you want everything consistent. But it seems like you are constantly refusing changes and I don't have the energy to fight with you after I have made the effort to go in game and get information which any user expects. I shouldn't have to fight you. Your constant edits of my work are sometimes helpful, but often are trivial and unnecessary. EVERY edit made by anyone outside the "core" members is chased by an admin who wants to leave their scent on it, and I find it objectionable. The "pages just changed" feature is being ABUSED. Especially when it's two minutes after someone has saved a change and is still wrestling with the article. On your page someone posted she lost TWO HOURS of quest dialogue when you came and clobbered her work between saves. Not all browsers retain what has been drafted into a form. If we more carefully do multiple saves to preserve our work incrementally, you guys are in there sniffing at it and revising it within minutes. It is rude and inconsiderate to others. Even if the average editor knew about the "under construction" notice, I would bet it would be overlooked by people eager to "fix" something. I could be rude and say that you just want to inflate the number of edits shown on your name, but I am unsure that a pressing need for prestige crosses your conscious mind.

These edits are a constant insult to users who have done in-game research on a topic while you are at your desk creating navboxes, just to change a phrase that isn't the way you personally would have written it. A question of vandalism or outright misinformation that will harm readers needs correction immediately. Spelling mistakes can be corrected later. And people who will be contributing regularly eventually need to learn where you want Fishing and level 15 capitalised or not, to be consistent across the wiki. But STALKING a person's edits isn't right. And stalking to revise everyone's edits is worse.

Let me be direct: you guys aren't just monitoring pages to protect players from someone deliberately vandalizing the wiki with bad information. No, you are marking your territory, like a dog does, making it clear that this is YOUR wiki, and players who want to help other players are only here at your forbearance. You are sending a message, and it is "Go away. We want the information you have researched when we couldn't be bothered to find it in-game ourselves, but it is Ours now and we will be taking full credit."

Does the RS Wiki have a policy about chasing recent edits? Because if they don't, they should. Pokemama1 (talk) 20:09, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Excessive bolding
Sorry, didn't see your edit on the bolding. --194.150.65.25 12:21, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Off-hand
Hello! So I noticed the edits you made to my recently updated pages Defender, Rebounder and Repriser, where you changed "offhand" to "off-hand". I will definitely use 'off-hand" from now on.

The reason that I used "offhand" was because I noticed that if you hover your mouse over the "Slot" icon in the Combat Stats infobox on any specific off-hand item page, it says "offhand slot" rather than "off-hand slot". This is the case on every page that is a shield or any off-hand weapon or item. Based on that I incorrectly assumed "offhand" was correct.

Since "offhand" clearly is not correct, I would love to be able to change it so that it says "off-hand slot" when it is hovered over, but I don't have the knowledge how to change this. Some guidance would be appreciated. 15:20, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re: "The" Jack of Spades?
The quest has been officially referred to as "The Jack of Spades" in the past, such as on Twitter and Reddit. If it turns out to not have a "The" then it shouldn't be too hard to move it to the correct name. For now though, I'd rather go off those official responses than a seemingly unfinished leaked newspost 11:23, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Pls
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