User talk:MarkGyver/Archive 1

Hey there. Thanks for making a user page. It helps to cut down on red links(I think they are called Wanted Pages).-- 19:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Mark, I noticed you want to create a page with all alchemy items with a loss of less than 50gp. Whilst I myself know next to nothing about how Category:Profitable Alchemy Items works, I can direct you to Robert Horning who does. He is very interested in RuneScape's economy and is the creator of the Profitable Alchemy Items category. Good luck with your subpage. 09:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Profitable High Alchemy
The way that this wiki page works, along with the high level alchemy category is through what is called a dynamic page list. Let's go first things first here:

The category is being created using one of the very most heavily used templates on the wiki, which is the Template:ExchangeItem. This is sort of the bedrock foundation template for the entire Grand Exchange Market Watch hierarchy of templates and I would strongly suggest that you avoid messing with that template unless you really have a firm grip on writing templates and some of the very advanced features of the MediaWiki software (the stuff that runs this website).

By far and away the best page to get the best technical documentation about templates is the official MediaWiki website, although I'm sure some better written websites for mere mortals can be made as well. Help:Template gives some better general instructions.

The cool thing about a dynamic page list function is that it allows you to create a page that includes content based on if it has been put into one or more categories. This is why it is called "dynamic", as the content can change as other stuff is being updated. It can get very complicated, but how it works for the high alchemy stuff is that it simply lists everything that is in a particular category. Items are put into that category as their prices are updated for the GEMW project (usually the various pricing bots that scrape the prices from the Jagex site, but also "manual" entries for those users who update prices too).

As for including items that are within 50 coins of the high alchemy value, we would have to either expand the existing profitable high alchemy category so it includes everything within 50 coins of the high alchemy value, or create a new category altogether. Currently all that is happening is that the items are being listed only on the criteria that you can profitably high alch those items (high alchemy minus price of a nature rune). Perhaps we can change this to be simply those items at or less than the high alchemy value... and then do the calculations elsewhere such as your project to find those items within 50 coins of high alchemy.

If you want a change of this nature, either post a new topic on Template talk:ExchangeItem, or better yet, start a discussion on Yew Grove and ask for some help on this, to get some greater community feedback on the idea. In either case, explain what it is that you want to accomplish and how, perhaps, we as a community could help out with your project. Keep in mind that tapping into the GEMW data can be a powerful tool, but at the same time you are working with something here that is used extensively on this wiki as well and used in a whole bunch of places... almost every page on the wiki. It can be changed, but just be careful about what changes you want to make.

Certainly get back in touch with me if you really want to make some changes here to help out with your idea. It does sound interesting. Unfortunately, it isn't an easy change to make, and it does have some major impacts on the wiki as a whole if we try to accommodate your idea here. --Robert Horning 13:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Problem with copying from AmauriceBot Utils class
Thanks for bringing the problem of the & to my attention. You are correct in that I should have encoded the special characters in the source of the page so that it can be cut and pasted from the page itself. Sometimes I have remembered to make the change to the source before uploading and sometimes I've forgotten. I will correct the pages by extending my AmauriceBot with an option to upload it's source so that I don't forget to get it right next time. I don't know if I will get to make the change this weekend or later (as I might spend the time in game this weekend to get the bonus xp). 13:10, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Premature Closure
I am aware of policy; I was the one who put that clause into RS:CONSENSUS. Cook requested that I close the RfS early because time is of the essence in this case. I agree with him. This is a case where I do not mind using UCS to override policy, because we need a coordinated blueprint for our new task articles. This deals with a significant portion of the new content released this week, and everybody is on board with at least a partial split, so I decided that the need to have a clear and coherent task page is more important than following the letter of the policy in every case. 03:32, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sig
Sorry to be a pain, but could you remove the link to Forum:Changing hosts from your signature? It's been closed, there's not a lot of point in linking to it at the moment. Kthx, 11:37, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Membership
Thanks for the notice :). I haven't updated my page in ages so that must have slipped. I've changed it ;). 14:54, December 20, 2010 (UTC)