Talk:Slang dictionary/Archive 1

Suggestion
Why not make it redirect to a page that says something like "The RuneScape Slang Dictionary with no offensive language" and the other one "The RuneScape Slang Dictionary with language that [may be] offensive to some users"? And also have the same for the internet one. Kid2255  Talk

Linking
Most of the definitions of these words could do with inner-wiki linking. Examples off the top of my head: KBD should have a link to King Black Dragon, K should link to Stackable items, etc.
 * I'll try to link some of these. Like (sk) link skirt to plateskirt etc... Dude lewis2 16:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC) --

Don't get rid of it
This list is good, I found some phrases used in RuneScape I didn't actually know what they meant until I came across this artical. I admit, there are some words in there which shouldn't be used, so instead of getting rid of it, just filter some of the words, or change them, or both! Also, the page needs a GOOD cleanup, because the page is a bit of a mess. Maybe make an article for a different letter of the alphabet? "Slang dictionary" could be edited to link to each of these articles. "Slang dictionary (A)" for example. --The1AndOnlyMike 05:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Agreed.. This is so useful. -- 02:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

2 lists?
Since this list of words is getting so big, mabye we could split it into 2 sections, one for RuneScape related jargon (drag, scmmy, ect.) and one for just plain leetspeak (lol, wtf, ect.) Anyone have any thoughts? 02:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I say we keep one list, because they're all used in RuneScape. 04:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Chia. if anyone ever comes across a word they dont know, they won't know what list it will be in.--Kade wikis 21:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Censor it?
I think it should be censored, because the 1st time I saw the page, I was shocked to see swear words written on it. And besides, RuneScape Wikians aren't allowed to type these words, and the possibility of the site being banned by school internet filters.

I don't think so, because this is a informational page. These are really things that people mean when they type these words.

And, there IS that big "Warning: There is language on this page that some readers may consider offensive." banner at the top of the page. 12:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Can't we just put sum asteriks(spell-check needed!) after the 1st letter, like F***? If parents are appalled by the language, they should remember that they are responsible for their children, not us. If readers don't understand the language, they should wait until they're 13 to continue playing Runescape.
 * If players are offended by the language, they really need to talk with someone.

I just noticed someone's been replacing all f*** by freak... wtf ? 13:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So, then revert the page to before it was edited... It was edited by an IP, therefor probably not even a member of the wiki. As I DK 14:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to restore an old revision... so I went trough them all and undid the censoring ones and left the good ones. I hope I didn't miss any... 15:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think no censor needed, it's an accurate description of what people are actually trying to say. And the banner at the top says it all! It's like the disclaimer for some TV shows: "Viewer discretion is advised".--Frogging101 22:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe a censor should be needed in this article because of the big warning on the top of the article. They are being told that there will be language that they might find inappropriate. It is their own choice whether or not to read the article. If you wanted to read this article but are offended by the curse words, just try to ignore them or not look at them--S terror1 01:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

This list is good, I found some phrases used in RuneScape I didn't actually know what they meant until I came across this artical. Instead of getting rid of it, just filter some of the words, or change them, or both! Also, the page needs a GOOD cleanup, because the page is a bit of a mess. Maybe make an article for a different letter of the alphabet? "Slang dictionary" could be edited to link to each of these articles. "Slang dictionary (A)" for example. --The1AndOnlyMike 05:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

FTW
Should the recent edit, made by an ip address 71.141.134.173, that Ftw was "Fuck the World" be kept? I've never seen it used in that manner, but would like other's opinions.
 * This page is offensive enough..I think it should be removed[[Image:Wintumber_tree.PNG]] Atlandy 15:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The matter isn't whether it's offensive or not, it is "is it used". Personnally, I'd never seen this use before. 14:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * i say get rid of it. dont think ANYONE has heard it before, i reckon it was omeone just being stupid.
 * Um, unless you've been living under a rock, you should know that Taz, of ECW fame used it when he created his own championship belt, called the FTW (fuck the world) Championship. Just about every person with more than 2 brain cells knows that FTW is Fuck The World. I say keep it, unless you're a retard. 69.156.176.17 00:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter if a very notable professional wrestler uses the phrase, which in turn may have 5,000,000 people using the phrase. What matters, is if it's used in-game. 00:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've NEVER heard it used in this context ingame. I say remove it. Dtm142 18:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've heard it a bilion times, with two seperate meanings. 1. (Fuck the world) and 2. (For the win). You can ask any player in rs and they'll probably say the 1st one. It should be kept.--Zeeus 20:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard it used in this context but even if one person uses it it should be kept. Per chia, what matters is if it's used.
 * I've only ever heard it mean For the win, so keep it as that. Fizziwig2006 22:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've never heard it used that way, either (sorry, but i never like to swear or even imply it slightly). However, some people claim that it is used in RuneScape and some people might be confused when they play RuneScape and hear it. I think we should keep it even though i don't know about it. Signatures/thisguyown
 * It's now "For the win, Fight to win, Fuck the World (rarely)", but I hear it used as "Fuck the World" way more often then I hear it used for "Fight to win". Infact, I don't think I've ever heard it used as "Fight to win". So why bother putting (rarely) after "Fuck The World"? 205.234.140.219 03:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC) (Texan_H_B_K on a proxy.)
 * Fuck the world is pretty famous.. it's a movie also78.20.153.111 18:17, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of this article
This article serves no purpose and as i was looking through it, it has bearly half of the abreviations used by the runescape poulation. If this article cant be cleaned up in lets say... a week then it should be removed.--Zeeus 20:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Any article no matter how small should not be removed. Someday this article might contain the majority of rs acronyms. Besides from the point there really are some rs players whom genuinely don't know the meanings of acronyms. As for ½ of the rs acronyms there are more being made constantly so it might be impossible to keep up with all of them. We're only human :\

If this article is ever a use to anyone anywhere in the world, it should stay. Thats what wikis are about.--Kade wikis 20:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree to both of you, this is an accurate article and yes, it may someday contain almost all acronyms and RS slang.--Frogging101 19:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't delete. But would a section on the most frequently used abrrvts be helpful? Yrademord 10:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No delete. This article is very useful if you encounter some slang you've never heard before; one quite search and you find it out. Yes, it needs a bit of work, but I say don't get rid of any excess slang, you never know who will use it. Artwich 19:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup - Adding Links
I've gone through and added a bunch of links in. However, because I made the edit, I would prefer someone else to go through and decide whether the cleanup tag is ready to be removed. Thanks in advance! 06:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

z00b????
Ok, I think that z00b/zoob should be removed. Mainly because I have NEVER heard ANYONE use that term. My MAIN account has Zezima in it's name and no one calls me a z00b/zoob.

Also, should we add HYT to the definitions? For those who don't know, it means Hey You Tip.iter. We could say it is used by member's of tip.it. Da bomba3 talk2me |undefinedSandy |undefined 23:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying you're wrong, but "zoob/z00b" is on this list, and this basically means that it has been used. Plus, certain people hate "Zezima noobs" and would make up zoob. There you go. 18:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Zomg
for those of you who don't know, Zounds was a word used in old English to express disbelief. plz dont remove it. an example is in Romeo and Juliet right before Mercutio died.
 * Who said we would? 23:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * someone removed it earlier, so just thought i'd say Signatures/thisguyown

Gay
When a player says that he is straight, which is uncensored, will he be banned? Unless he is soliciting (god forbid how), that player doesn't deserve blackmarks, so a person saying he himself is homosexual is completely acceptable as well. If it's dodging the censor, well, that is not automatically breaking a rule. To support this, some words and names, like a certain administrator's in-game handle, are caught by it.


 * I agree with your intention (i.e. that players should be able to classify themselves as gay or straight), but "homosexual" is a banned word. The rules specifically state: "mis-spelling an offensive word or using symbols to replace letters to avoid the chat filter is considered even worse."  Since "homosexual" is censored by the chat filter, it seems reasonable to think that Jagex considers it to be offensive, so misspelling it to get around the filter is breaking the rules.


 * The only argument against this stance would be if Jagex does not consider the word to be offensive in all contexts. It seems unlikely that they would be so lax, given their track record (I was punished for saying "I'm Barry Scott").  They most likely consider all "sexuality" related words to be suspect, given that there is no sexual aspect to the game (so there could be little genuine reason to use the words in chat).  They could not reasonably ban the word "straight", as it has other meanings.  They have banned "heterosexual", presumably for the same reason as "homosexual".


 * Arguably, they could not reasonably unban these because they would be widely abused, e.g. in offensive contexts and for solicitation. Leevclarke, AKA Max Bulldog [[Image:Bulldogh.gif]] 02:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You could argue that the word "gay" should not be censored, as it can be used as an alternative word for "happy".

Dogtag333 13:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, but it is almost never used in that context. It's for the same reason that "ass" is blocked, even though it could mean a donkey.  If you mean happy then you can just say happy, since that is a synonym with no ambiguity.  Leevclarke, AKA Max Bulldog [[Image:Bulldogh.gif]] 18:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if we're allowed to say something like "get your facts straight", I don't see an issue in saying "Jad is gay".
 * The difference is, "straight" is not censored while "gay" is. 19:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahh k.
 * Actually, "ass" isn't blocked anymore. Zeph Espera 10:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

"Gay" is just how some people choose to be, and that's thair choice so there is no reason to sensor it. -Actually being gay isn't a choice, it's something you're born with. It's like saying "people choose to be straight".

Reporting column
Jagex does not have a list of words anywhere that automatically count as an offence. The standard they use is whether or not the language was used in a context that was offending someone, not whether it could potentially be offensive. As such, I don't think there's a way to have a column that accurately reflects whether or not a word or phrase should be reported. I would just go ahead and remove it outright, but there will probably be people who disagree with me and there's no point in doing so if it'll be reverted. Any thoughts? Skill 20:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The report thing is pointless, RuneScape is to faggy already. You can't even say "crap". "Crap" is not a bad word! PLUS why would you have to be 13 to play if it sensors everything? Think about...


 * You don't have to be 13 to play anymore because now they let you play but you have to use Quick Chat and you cann't use normal chat. -- 03:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

stfu has been filtered particially
now it's st** instead, so it should be removed from the article since it's already been filtered and cannot be expressed anymore Btzkillerv has entered the building! 10:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

This Whole Article
In opinion, this whole article should be shut down. It teaches players how to avoid this chat filter, and avoiding this filter in itself is a breech of Jagex many rules. So what, this wiki is not a part of Jagex, but still, why are we teaching it's users how to break the rules. I'm requesting a VfD.

11:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support -  15:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]] Lanning9 [[Image:Ancient_staff.png]] 16:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * HUGE Support - 20:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Slight Support - I find that some of it is useful, but a good portion of it doesn't work out. I think that we should keep the ones that do not bypass the censor and are also commonly used. For certain ones, it might be a possibility to remove offensive meanings. Some phrases are not common and aren't used or rarely at all, while others have partial or incorrect meanings. That's my idea Monkeyguy139 22:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Slight Support [[Image:Dragon scimitar.png]] Mjs961 [[Image:Guthix book.png]]  02:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Only the swear words should be removed, as some new players might find the rest helpful.
 * Slight support Per Mjs961 09:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Mostly Strong Support Per Mjs961 and Bonziiznob 21:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with exceptions Per Msj961 and Bonziiznob. Lets say, a new player doesn't know what KBD means, but doesn't wanna look like a newb by asking the public. Let's keep this article for that situation, but DEFINITELY get rid of the ones that may cause spam(such as the ice cream cone, or the "A q p then w", if someone feels like getting creative with the runescape font, let them figure it out themselves) or bypassing of the censor. -- 07:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Complete Support C0smic 18:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

RuneScape Related/RuneScape Unrelated separation.
I've separated every term into one of two categories, 'RuneScape Related' and 'RuneScape Unrelated.' This took a very long time, so please don't just undo the whole thing right away. If anyone disagrees with my change, say as much here, and we will discuss it.

Formatting Glitch
I fixed a problem with everything after the fog entry being inside the fog cell, but the F and G headers are still in the wrong place for some reason. Could someone with a better knowledge of wiki formatting have a look at it please?--Kazmahu 05:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Redirects to this page
There are many redirects to this page. Most of them end with #[letter]. For example, the redirect for wtf is Slang_dictionary#W. Articles like this needs to be changed to Slang_dictionary#W_2 to redirect them to the correct header. Luckytoilet 01:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

remove most stuff
first off all, delete all ascii scharacters. Then make all bad words degfinitions one word that couldn't be found offensive --j-g 21:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Splitting into two parts?
To make things simple, splitting the whole dictionary into two sections just makes things harder to find. If it's used in RuneScape, it's RuneScape-related. If it's not used in RuneScape (or "RuneScape Unrelated") it shouldn't even be here. I mean, [as far as I know] "narb" is only even vaguely used in RuneScape. Nowhere else. How could it not be related to RuneScape? 03:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The split could be simply just like the Juna article has the dialogue split into a subpage at Juna/dialogue. As far as maintaining, well since the sub-page would be full of content likely to be vandalised i would highly recommend semi-protecting that page. The only link to that page should be, in my opinion, a link on the main article with warnings. Having the all of the content of questionable standards  contained on the one page, will allow filtering programs to filter just the one page as opposed to the entire site. As far as acronyms and related that have more than one meaning  then those entries could be denoted as having alternate meanings on the sub-page (or possibly vice versa). Of course any good suggestions are more than welcome.  03:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds Good to Me - <--- Point said, 03:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The end result is that it doesn't serve a reasonable purpose, and it just makes things harder to find. 01:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Swear Words
Should be cencored such as 'WTF - What The F***'. I R Zaros 11:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Why? [[Image:Rollbackcrown.PNG‎]] Kudos 2 U Talk! Edit count! Contribs! 16:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Standards. Sometimes it is simply over the top to let anything and everything be said.  --Robert Horning 16:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Make it simple. Revealed foul language + Children = Large complaints from parents. It doesn't need thinking through, it's obvious. 18:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, theres already an article where they are censored. See: Player Dictionary (clean) C0smic 18:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

What about
What about king Scorpy thats what i call the King Scorpion and also KS for King ScorpionStaff Sergeant Jack Jackson 06:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Censored taking priority
Shouldn't the clean dictionary take priority over the uncensored dictionary when you search for slang dictionary?? I thought that would make more sense. Evil Yanks talk 06:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

No, You should be atleast 13 if you are playing runescape and by 13 you should be able to handle some course language for informational purposes. --MR. ARMAGEDDON 15:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, you can be any age you want, but if you are under 13 then you have to use Quick Chat. RuneScape players who are under 13 may visit the wiki, and we don't want to offend them with these words. I support Evil Yanks, the clean dictionary should pop up first over the dirty one.

Disagree Reportable
Lots of this I strongly disagree that it should be reported. (no, I do not have and account here but I'm signing anyways so it doesn't seem like spam) 97.124.100.214


 * I agree, things like STFU and GTFO ARE NOT REPORTABLE, as said by Jagex in the rules. As proof, click 'Report Abuse' ingame, type in something random like asdf, click next, and click the question mark above respect. The 3rd line clearly states:

Therefore, ALL abbreviations using swear words should be marked as unreportable (if we keep this page). -- 07:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If you take offence because of the abbreviation, you could still report (or add to ignore list). It is not what you say that matters but how you say it. 07:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not possible for a person to find random letters offensive. And really, it's not possible for a person to find random letters offensive. Could someone find KSD or WEZGDS offensive? No. Because they're simply letters. They don't mean anything. They might mean something in the typer's head, probably to express an emotion (being mad at someone = stfu = shut the fuck up), but that's only in THEIR head! That's not the situation in reality! In reality, STFU means ess tee eff yoo, or stfu. The same thing goes for *'s. I hate when peopl say "language!" for *'s, 1) because stars are stars. They don't mean anything. 2)As quoted by Jagex in the 4th line of Playing rs>Report Abuse>*insert name*> question mark above Respect:

-- 07:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not saying that it should be reportable. The thing that makes it reportable is not the words, it is the context. I can see a player taking offence to it because it is not random letters, it is an anronym with a meaning. Those letters are used in place of the actual phrase and in conversation has the same meaning, just not the same words. 08:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Intro
Is the intro into this article necessary? I would personally take it out, but would like a few more input onto this. Thanks. 02:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll just remove it for now. If there are any objections, please say so. 23:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

WTF...?
Does anyone even use half of these?I am sorry but one person using it does not qualify it as slang. Gamebox77   05:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Just to say
I removed all "Ways to avoid the censor" on F as it's Not Really slang. --  Celtic-Creations  *  Talk to me   09:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)