Talk:Leak

Source of Leak Shouldn't it be required to post the source of the leak as well? I mean, if you post some leak, and people want to verify it is true, there should always be a place to check. With the first three on the list (Summoning, and the two Runecrafting ones), the info is included in parentases, but it's not included at all on the other two. 03:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Doomedrusher|Talk| |Contributions| |Edit Count| 03:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Two? There's only one *cough*serenprayerisfake*cough*. The left parentheses tell you where the leak came from, Since most leaks are removed, posting links would not be practically helpful.

Sailing skill
Why isn't the leak about the sailing skill added here, like it is on the Skills page?



--Magnea8 16:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC) This was confirmed to be a fake and the Skillcape was clearly a Magic skillcape to me. (refering to the article:) How is Water on the World map an evidenve for a Sailing skill? The whole passage about the sailing skill should be removed. You can put it back in as soon it is released ... Stormpride 15:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * See Sailing. 18:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you have the picture of it?Whovian39 22:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Page In General
Comment - What reason is this page unreliable? - --Crocodiles4 17:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Since there is no real motivation to why the page would be unreliable I have now removed the cleanup template from the page. -- 16:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I heared that Ned in Draynor had the Achievement diary icon on the minimap before the Lumbridge Diary was released but i have not seen it for my self. If it can be confirmed please add it Stormpride 15:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I heard that too, think it happened to Bob also, around the High Detail update. -- 16:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Barbarian agility course: high level course?
I've heard that this was added to the game with the skill guides (in game) update... removed shortly after... need to be confirmed

Someone with good editing skills add this please
I don't know how to add links but here's a good leak. The KB pic for Warrior's Guild shot put has a picture of someone wearing what appears to be either a new skill cape or maybe a trimmed quest cape. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/warriors_guild75.132.204.176 19:08, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can add it. Do you know what date they added this picture? Or has it always been there? 23:56, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, idk how long it's been there, sorry.
 * I assume that it must be new addition since I only just started appearing in the Future Updates forum. 00:48, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

a mod confirmed this 2 b a bug. god knows why they have bugs in their game guide.
 * Okay, the back of the cape is white, the trim is purple, and the shoulderpads appear to be DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM THE FLETCHING CAPE.


 * What the hell is going on?? WWTDD? 23:58, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think what happened is this image, as well as the Dragon pickaxe image, has been taken in the Work In Progress (WIP) server rather than the server we all play on, the Release Candidate (RC) server. Consider this quote from the recent Trust Us, We're QA blog: "the content has to be tested in both WIP and RC. WIP is the core environment that all developers use to create content for RuneScape, be it for an update scheduled for the next week, or one for next year." From the sounds of that, the WIP server is quite different than the RC server (Just why the HELL Jagex even bothers to use the WIP server when its so different is completely beyond me, or the scope of this discussion), so items here might have different models and graphics than items in the RC server. 02:50, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

New prayer tab
Well I found that there is a new icon for the prayer tab - Should I add it here? -- 14:33, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure! 17:19, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I have also seen this icon in-game a few times with the mouse effects, everytime you bury bones you'll see the new icon. I think this should be added.~Prowlerath
 * I have also seen this icon in-game a few times with the mouse effects, everytime you bury bones you'll see the new icon. I think this should be added.~Prowlerath

the purple and white skillcape
a mod said its a bug.
 * Can you tell us where? 16:44, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * If it is a bug, then why is it still on the k-base

Ring of stone?
I just saw that someone had added the knowledge base entry about the Ring of Stone, which states that it might have unknown magical abilities. I don't consider this a leak, as this was a completely intentional text added by Jagex, and if added anywhere, it would be to the Upcoming updates page, but I don't think it fits there either. I suggest removal of that and other intentional "leaks".
 * Works for me. Remember, Be Bold! WWTDD? 20:56, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, done, also requested deletion of the image used for that leak.

Block this user
Block the following user:

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.43.131.114

He didn't find out the leak of "total time played" first, he just happened to stumble upon the Youtube video and hastily make an edit on this article about the leak. He didn't include correct formatting, grammar, spelling, punctuation, and all that he added was a direct link to the video.

A fellow member correctly added his entry and edited it accordingly, but the aforementioned user started to "rage" and caused obscene profanity among the chat log, which you can view.

I suggest blocking this user for at least a week.

-- 02:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I have issued him a warning, and if he does not stop he will indeed be blocked. 01:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks. -- 02:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay let's clarify it. I found it before any of you, so without me you guys wouldn't even know about it so technically I found it first out of all of you. I didn't stumble upon a youtube video. I made it. I didn;t include correct formatting, because i did not know how to make boxes. I ask someone to format it for me. Instead one of you just ripped of mines and add something different completely and took credit for it. Then i got angry because at first you constantly delete it, and when you found out it works( i bet my watching my video) you create your own thing Giving me no credit at all. Also your way does not work at all. So maybe now you understand the situation and understand why i might start "rage"
 * You have no proof that you found it before us. Someone had already posted the information about the link, along with a screenshot, before you posted. The fact that you didn't know how to add it properly to the table had nothing to do with it, your video was just not helpful to us, and rather than being mature about it and discussing it, you accused me of taking credit for your work (which I did not do) and then vandalised my user page. The person who uploaded the current image had no part in any of this "exchange" and knew nothing of your video. Your arrogance in this matter astounds me, how can you possibly think that you are the only person clever enough to figure this out on your own, and furthermore, than you did it faster than anyone else? You are being entirely unreasonable. 18:33, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Enough of this. This is a wiki. If you publish something here, you can no longer claim it as yours. It doesn't matter who found it first, the important thing is that it is there and being readable by others. Now, stop being a jerk and go edit some pages without causing any fuzz about it. (No one cares who found it first, except you it appears, people are free to improve it in whatever way they want without giving credit to someone else.) -- 18:31, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Actually.. there was no links or anything about adventurer log before i posted.
 * No. This IP (75.40.139.23) only blanked the page (and a few others). Assuming you're the same editor as this IP, you added a link to YouTube; thats not a source. How do we know by looking at the link thats its not a rickroll or screamer? How do we know its not fake? TehNoobShow added the first mention of the Adventurer's Log here.
 * Also, by adding it to the wiki you lose all claim to it, per RuneScape:Copyrights. 11:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * The IP you are replying to is the same IP that added the stuff to the page. They went on another computer or something. I do believe they have blatantly violated the UTP at the bottom of the next section, so if that was in fact them, then they're getting blocked, permanently this time. 15:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked and he added that sometime before. Oh well 15:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * True, but indef IP blocks aren't usually a good idea, because of dynamic IPs, proxies and such. Maybe a month or two if it continues. 15:18, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Adventurer's Log
This pertains to the 'Adventurer's Log' at the bottom of the article. -- I was reading about a few of the leaks both possibly to come, and already came. I noticed an adventurer's log and thought "Hey its already been released, why not try it out?" Well I've searched all over the RS (forums, customer support, searches, etc...) and couldn't find it. Maybe I've passed it up?? Is this currently active or has it cense been removed? Thanks -- 02:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: Very sorry but of all the places i visited the official article here on the wikia and now realize that it was active for a short period of time and was soon removed, and the official release date is still to come. :) Very sorry about that. -- 02:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC) it wasnt removed http://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/display_player_profile.ws?searchName= see its there

It wasn't a leak anyway, it was released quietly to see if it was working okay, the thread is in recent updates. Also, there was no need to get so aggressive tbh. 17:35, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

No need for exchanging profanity
First off, learn how to properly construct sentences using your best English possible. Second, sign your posts - an IP address is just one of millions across the web. Third, learn how to control your emotions.

P.S. The function is discussed by a J-mod in the Recent Updates section of the forums.

EDIT: WOOT! 12k articles reached on RSWiki! YAY!

-- 02:39, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

A New Layout on the LEAKS PAGE!
Ok, so why not have two sections on the leaks page? One for the PAST leaks, one for the CURRENT Leaks. So like: The Carpentary Skill and the Adventures Log in the past ones and something like the new music tracks in the current one. The past is for things that have been given a update, the present is for things that are new and have not been given a update.

Melee
That Sword is an Iron Scimitar, no need to add it in leaks. 01:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Purple and gold Skillcape
I was talking to a mod and he said that the purple and gold skillcape was just a glitch in which the crafting skillcape appears to be gold and purple.So should this remain a leak I mean,a mod even said it was a glitch! -- 23:21, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I suppose in light of this, it should be removed, however out of curiosity can you cite sources? 23:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I'll try my best to get some proof. -- 03:09, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

New continent
In Mod Sam J's iCould at 1:00 there's a map very similar to RS type but it's not from any place on RS. Leak or no leak (first see it)?

i think its a leak, a long as you are sure its rs. 21:38, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it is reliable enough of a leak. I have not seen the video myself, though I have read about it on the future updates forums. Someone should take a photo of the mysterious desert-like map. 06:24, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been announced that Jagex will be working on a new continent soon, it has already been planned.~Prowlerath
 * It has been announced that Jagex will be working on a new continent soon, it has already been planned.~Prowlerath


 * It's been confirmed that this new continent isn't coming out until JaGeX finishes the current one. I loled at that, GF. at least 3 more years until new continent. (Elf City, Myreque, Ritual Site, Menaphos. Kudos Island is coming out before new continent though.

Credit
I would like to say that I found the picture of the STR and barb training first, since my first edit concerning this was on the fishing page, if anyone should be credited it would be me.

also the time I posted this should be indicated on the history section on the fishing article.

until another person re-edited and cropped the image down. just remember I still posted the original.

also according to my contributions when I edited the fishing article, I spotted the image on January 17th 2010, so march 24th is an incorrect date, these images have been around for a while now and I would know.Davidzx 00:29, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

huh? 11 languages in runescape?
im not sure if it supposed to be there but when i was in the forums was asking a question for the Q&A and i found these language buttons, 11 of them!
 * There have been language specific forums at the bottom of the forums homepage for about a year now. With the most recent forums update they were moved to the language tab with the rest of the languages. Clicking on the leads to their respective language specific forum. I think that Jagex must have a big Northern Europe following as all 4 Scandinavian countries, Poland and the Netherlands all have their own forums.  07:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

leakage
guy that worked at jagex put his pictures up on his site http://www.samuelbeattie.com/?page_id=632
 * It isn't a leak as he is only putting up images of updates that have already been added to the game. It needs to be unknown for it to be a leak. 01:10, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * It does have some interesting concept art, though, (Neanderthal, Skeletal kit) that should be in the next Mahjarrat quest.--Dylandeklerk 18:40, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fairy leak bonus?
I was looking at the video carefully and i think the name is "Pvpworld5". If you got better eyes than me say what you think it is 01:40, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

FUTURE UPDATE LEAK
this was found from Jagex's icould video

http://icould.com/files/2010/03/George-Competition.JPG

more about it can be found here 16-17-687-60886352

someone do something with this please

~Broggini
 * Added. 14:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darkmeyer Leak
What happened to the screenshot about the Darkmeyer map glitch? It was here rather recently... The Mistress of Poison 06:47, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Disregard, found out it was a fake. 03:41, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Black amrour
go to main page of rs the go to the ge price page there type the word "har" and u will see new black armour pieces (my bad its just that i saw them now according to the graph they've been there for half a year)still though it is a leak and the leaks page is semi protected so i cant edit it please some1 who can do it

nope no leak at all it just the normal white armour but jagex coloured it black instead of white^_^

New hp!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/runescape?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/0/cPpjZ7Z9SU0 1:25 Use HD to see it Dmck2b 11:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

94.68.154.26 11:53, August 3, 2010 (UTC)*unregistered contributor*i dont see any new hp,there certainly is a huge leak with the avatar faces though,they all have the new look.94.68.154.26 11:53, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Its at 1:29 aswell 0 = miss Dmck2b 11:55, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * unregistered contributor* yeah i see it now, good job94.68.154.26 12:31, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Animation Pack 1
This is ridiculous, its a waste of loading time for this page, its not a freaking leak, Jagex released it to show the new animations for the Scimitars, the cape is just the Chochactrice cape without the head and the boots are Bandos boots, theres is no leak here. I ask for a Mod to remove this since this was planned and not "unintencionally" released before time. ScionCrush 18:52, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

The update image thing being there before the update is released is not new,you have been able to do it for ages,for every update,you might want to add that...Battleben 08:24, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * The animation isn't a leak, the platebody/cape is. They look similar to things elsewhere in the game, but they don't exist as items. -- 01:35, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Half List on Whiteboard...?
"In the top right corner is a whiteboard that contains a half list of unreleased content." It has the check mark, which indicates its completion. However, you can't really tell what the list is leaking (if it is really a leak at all). So, I really don't understand how it is a leak/completed leak. 13:50, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was a list of unreleased content at the time it was taken. Glancing back over it again, it seems everything on that list has already been introduced into the game (i.e. the Thieving Guild, Dungeoneering, Fish Flingers, Fairy Tale part 3, Elite diary...) 03:03, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The elite clues haven't been added into the game yet, so it hasn't been completed yet. WingsPrime 03:08, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The elite clues were added two days ago... I said elite diary anyway. 03:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant elite diaries. WingsPrime 23:19, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * But it doesn't say "Fish Flingers". It saying "Fishing". And it doesn't have the start of the word "Dungeoneering" either.

Dragon mask face leak?
If my friends arn't lying (and one of the dragon mask pages) there's a leak where if you correctly position the Orb of Oculus, you can see the face under the mask and see the full updated face. I'm not good at editing, so can someone put this in? And better yet, can someone with a dragon mask get a picture?

WingsPrime 02:58, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blood tithe pouch is not a leak, in fact it is an item used during the desert treasure quest.

New song (or might just be removed)
Theres a gap between Desolo X and Diangos song possible new song or just one taken away?Dmck2b 07:20, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just confirmed by Jmods to be a leak Mod Moltare: Seriously: I can't say for sure, since it's not part of my content. It's most likely that the slot was made visible in error during the upload, for a track that's not yet ready for release. Rest assured that you're not missing a music track that should be there.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=Njop9jD80oA/forums.ws?15,16,209,61472265,goto,4 Dmck2b 17:36, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Summoning/Pets
Why is there no references to the summoning/pets "leak" (which was intentional) which included the Bulldog entry on the knowlege base showing a player with a bulldog in .gif form? 92.10.101.182 15:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Clue Fest 2
I think it's pretty apparent that the Investigator's clothing and mysterious book are part of Clue Fest 2. Also, was the Magnifying Glass always at the bottom (above these new items)? We've had many holiday events since the first Clue Fest, so the magnifying glass should be in-between them somewhere. Unless... it's part of the Clue Fest set, mwaha. 20:41, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

What is a Leak?
Though it differs from the definition provided by this page, the definition of a leak according to Wikipedia. The article states that leaks have to either be unintentional or released "secretly". I've tried removing these myself but it is constantly reverted, so I've brought the discussion here. To look over the so called leaks listed in this article;

1) The Soul Rift: This is hardly a leak. If it's release was unintentional, it would have been removed LONG ago

. 2) The Map Leak: While (possibly) unintentional, we do not know what exactly this was a leak of. It definitely not Soul Wars, which was not in development at the time. This section should be reworded, if not removed all together.

3) Carpentry: Not intentional OR secret. Carpentry was going to be a skill but was scrapped very early into development. While it may have inspired Construction to some degree, it was definitely not a "leak" of it.

4) Dragon platebody: This is more of an easter egg than it is a leak. It is better suited for the trivia section of the Dragon Platebody article, and I am pretty sure it is already there.

5) Rest: The "Coming soon..." Dialogue should be evidence enough that this CLEARLY was an intentional release.

6) Scimitars: This was a featured in the developers diary about Animation Pack 1... so how is it a leak, exactly?

7) Video Leaks: The Zanaris Image was released in a video to the public, so it was clearly meant to be there. Furthermore, images of Zanaris had already been released previously, and the coming update to it was no secret. The board with unreleased content does not show enough for it to be a leak - As stated in the article itself, only a few letters are visible. Thus, it is unsubstantial. The so called "Motherland" leak is questionable. There is nothing to show that it is related to the motherland or penguin quests at all. It hardly even looks like an Iceberg. As for the map... this could be considered a leak, but it is far too insubstantial. See RS:NOT.

8) Treasure trail image: This image was released not long before the upate itself. This is not a leak, nor is it abnormal. The image was uploaded in preparation for the update newspost.

9) Dev Blogs (Video and Written): Since these images were taken in Jagex's testing enviorment, they contained features not yet in the actual game. However, the images are not secret OR unintentional, so that means they are not leaks.

10) Investigators clothing: Not intentional, secrecy is arguable. The ENTIRE cryptic clue fest, including the reward, was implemented into the game on it's first day. Theoretically, it could have been completed then, but due to it's nature, you would have had to know what items were needed in advance to do so. Really, it's not really secret - It's just a matter of how it was implemented.

11) Dungeoneering Master Cape: See above. The article itself even STATES that it was probably intentional.

12) Faces and masks: These were simply items released with the new faces before the full facial update, but it was not a leak. It would have been a lot more work for Jagex to release these masks with the old faces when they would have had to update them in a few weeks anyway. Thus, not intentional or secret.

This would leave us with:

1) Thieving leak: This was clearly unintentional. Thus, it was a leak.

2) Soul Tiara/Talisman: Clearly unintentional, considering it was removed afterwards,

3) Trade Octagon: Though scrapped, the release of the icon was unintentional. Thus, it was a leak.

4) Achievement Diary icon: See above.

5) Mobilising armies Teleport: See above

6) Dungeoneering leak: Though the existence of the Occult and Warped sections in the floor select was probably intentional, the ability to VIEW them wasn't. This is a genuine leak.

7) Anything from the knowledge base: While these are questionable, I admit that they could be genuine leaks. I'd appreciate some responses, especially from those keen to revert my edits to this page. 02:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment - I don't see why the edits keep being re-added, but people would rather think that things are leaks and only leaks. I would guess that some don't differentiate between an Easter egg (feature) and a Leak. Some just like to re-post because they might think they just found it, adding new information for the wiki (I know this is a stretch) while not realizing it was removed earlier and as such was documented in the history. 02:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think some folks just like to see the picture they uploaded shown in a page. Generally, I'd be pretty hawkish about removing stuff that doesn't qualify, too. However, pictures of Jagex folks working with some otherwise unreleased info in view I think does qualify as a leak. Their PR/marketing folks wanted to generate some good will, but the people getting their pictures taken/videos made didn't treat the info like it was super-secret black ops strategies. Just because they didn't think about what was going to be in the images doesn't mean they meant it to be released. It was still unintentional. They just didn't make a big deal about it afterward. --Saftzie 03:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem quite right about this after your explanation. I do not agree with the removal of these leaks, however:
 * Map Leak - Okay, perhaps it wasn't meant for Soul Wars, but it does mean that there was something going on there. Perhaps it was scrapped, but hey, you want to keep the Trade Octagon, don't you?
 * Rest - Yes, definitely intentional, but it was removed shortly after "release" and was intended as a leak to let people discover it for a few days.
 * Whiteboard video leak - Perhaps intentional, perhaps not, but it did tell us about a lot of updates that we knew (FTP3) and hadn't expected (Th. Guild).
 * Treasure Trails - You are totally right on that, but we didn't know the image yet and by modifying the link, we discovered the name of the next news post. Alright, scrap it.
 * New clothes - In the new damage system update. These weren't released then, so I guess the mods were testing two things at once. It'd take keen eyes to discover that these clothes and colours were unreleased.
 * Faces (MAYBE) - You are right, but it still gave us an idea of how it would look like. 05:32, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, glad to see there has been some progress.

Map Leak - I agree. That is why I said it could be kept, though rewritten to remove the Soul Wars references. There was a rumor that it was used for the testing of PoH stuff, though I am not sure how true that is.

Rest - It wasn't intended as a leak so much as it was a small easter egg for people who right clicked.

Whiteboard video - Alright, after taking a closer look I'll admit that the release schedule into that image was probably unintentional. However, it would be beneficial to the page if you could actually say what the board says and what it refers to, as it's pretty difficult to make out.

New clothes - Keen eyes? Not really. There were comments on the new clothing in the first few pages of the dev blog discussion. And at this point, we already knew that an update to the player kit would be coming soon, so it's not like it was something new.

Faces - Yes, and while that is significant to the articles for the respective masks, it is not a leak.


 * Okay then. 15:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you really want to know what is a leak? A leak is pretty much every feature we see that are not yet released in-game, such as the Zanaris leak before it was released, some like the Rest feature are indeed Easter eggs, but anything we see that is not in-game, be intentional or not, is a leak. (P.S ty for ruining the Leaks page) ScionCrush 20:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)