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Quest numbers
I noticed a few odd things with the numbering of quests.

The List of quest release dates shows 181 quests, and Elder Kiln is listed as #181, which matches the number it has on its own page. However, Within the Light is #156 on its own page and #155 on the list, because the list removed the number from Unstable Foundation. There are many other quests that had their numbers removed, and I think that aside of this causing a lot of trouble changing the pages of all quests that have been release since, it is also incorrect.

A good example is Recipe for Disaster. This was a special quest released as the 100th quest, and the page still says it is the 100th quest even though its number has been changed to #97 because one of the earlier quests had been removed, and two are no longer considered to be quests. In my opinion removing quest number 4 does not turn quest number 5 into 4, it just means that quest number 4 no longer exists in the game.

Either way a lot of quests have been incorrectly numbered. Either the lower level ones if we do change the numbering with each removed quest, or the higher level ones because of the removal of Unstable Foundation and/or Learning the Ropes. 23:41, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Skins
I feel like I am taking over the User Help page now but anyway... Today a friend notified me that my userpage did not look the same to him as it does to me because he uses a different skin. I created my userpage back when good ol' Monaco was still available, and when it became unavailable shortly after the release of the ineffecient Oasis skin I switched to Monobook myself. Does anyone know of a way to force my userpage to display in Monobook when others view it? 00:36, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Add "?useskin=monobook" to the end of the url. For example "http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Tharkon?useskin=monobook". Users have to do that in their browsers. Alternatively you could get creative with redirects, I suppose. Better would be to try to make it look sane in whatever skins Wikia makes available. -- 03:09, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * You could add that ?useskin=monobook to the link in your signature. You could also change the horizontal amount of userboxes from 4 to 3. That would make it better in wikia skin. 09:23, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3 boxes per row would make the page even longer than it already is. The new Oasis skin simply sucks when it comes to space efficiency, it only uses one third of the window's width for actual content, so I refuse to cater to it. Changing the link in my signature might work, although I noticed wikilinks don't support GET values, so I changed them to regular links. I still don't know why Monaco was removed. For a while the three skins co-existed. 03:07, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * The width was changed to a fixed width to "make every page the same for different resolutions" so you'd know what every user would see, even with different resolutions. I disagree, but that's what Wikia decided. 08:56, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * You could always mess with the page widths on your backgrounds. For example, you could make a fake background something along the lines of . Repeat that with everything else x times and you've got a page that'll display the same regardless of monitor resolution or whatever Wikia, Inc. decides to force upon us.  09:01, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I completely understand the idea behind a fixed width, however, making this width 640px (this is what the content area appears to be in the Oasis skin) is a bit absurd. Nobody is using VGA resolutions anymore, even 3 years ago when I was actively designing websites I was free to assume every viewer had at least XGA (1024x768). The way I designed my userpage now probabably requires SXGA, but we're a few years further and I think every desktop user will have at least that. Laptops are pretty much always widescreen where WXGA is sufficient as well. So even in the Monobook skin I have no worries about people having insufficient screen width. Btw, I tested the div thingy on User:Tharkon/Research, but it doesn't really have the desired effect, although I haven't tried z-index yet. 21:06, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got pretty close now, noticed that the content part of my page is only 1000px, the sidebars are the only thing requiring WXGA or SXGA then. The Live chat and Recent activity boxes from the Oasis skin are quite stubborn though, but this is certainly an improvement. 21:30, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Separate Equipment tables?
I think having separate tables for Dungeoneering items would make them easier to use, at least for casual players like myself. And doing so might allow tables that currently have more than 400 items to be on a single page, possibly? (I haven't counted them.)

Or has this been discussed? (I'd volunteer to create them myself, but I'm suffering through a very slow internet connection at the moment.)
 * Would you like to give an example of what you mean? 17:07, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * For example, Dungeoneering items could be removed from Equipment tables/Weapon and placed into a Dungeoneering equipment tables/Weapon page
 * Oh, so you want the page splitting into several different ones; would Dungeoneering equipment/Melee armour, Dungeoneering equipment/Mage equipment, Dungeoneering equipment/Range equipment and Dungeoneering equipment/Melee weapons be suitable to you? 19:23, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds great! But I'm not sure that's what I'm requesting. I was hoping that the Dungeoneering items could be removed from all the Equipment tables, and new tables could be created for them. Or maybe the tables are generated with scripts? In which case, I'd retract the request, that would be too much work to change.
 * The page is generated dynamically based on (which Wikia has apparently made unlinkable as I write this, as with *any* Category, sigh). Removing Duneoneering items from this page would be difficult, I think, but a different page based on different categories should be possible. For example, there could be a page with a table of Dungeoneering daggers, a table of Dungeoneering rapiers, etc. -- 21:20, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, it would take days to assign all these items to new categories, forget I asked. I guess what annoys me is that tables are cut off at 400 entries, but I assume that's Wikia's doing?
 * All dungeoneering weapons are already in a separate category. For example, Argonite dagger is also in Category:Dungeoneering Daggers, as are Frostbite dagger and Hailstorm dagger, so there could be a table that listed all daggers. With existing categories it wouldn't be possible to include, for example, Argonite dagger and Zephyrium rapier in the same table. There is also Category:Argonite, but that includes all argonite armor, too. Then there could be a separate table for rapiers, etc. The question is whether it's worth being able to compare daggers to other daggers, but not daggers to rapiers, etc., in a sortable table. For example, comparing an argonite dagger to a zephyrium rapier is probably what you really want to do, but these tables wouldn't do that. -- 22:44, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Cquote2
I don't like messing with this sort of template, but I think it's to do with the div class at the top. The template renders on top of infoboxes, where as it used to 'see' them and render accordingly. I think it does the same with images. 10:14, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've since discovered it's something to do with chrome not recognising margins. Not sure if this is any help to whoever knows how to fix it. 23:12, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's also changed from being justified or centered or whatever it was before, and has really messed up some pages randomly (User:TyA/Administrator Review). 20:02, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

The template appears to be fixed for me. However I keep seeing people remove the template because it's rendering behind infoboxes and such. So idk what the issue is now since it looks fine to me. 18:26, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Tutors
Here is the tutor page on this wiki. If you look at the discontinued tutors section there is a list of discontinued tutors. The ones I'd like to note are Fishing Tutor, Cooking Tutor, Prayer Tutor, Mining Tutor, and Crafting Tutor. However, look at this ImageShack image I took on 6/28/2012:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9586/replacepng2.png

If you look at the world map, all the tutors in the picture above are in Burthorpe. This was an update released a few month ago. However, the five tutors I listed in the first paragraph on the "Tutor" article have the same names as some of the new tutors pictured. Maybe the discontinued tutors can have  after their names, and we could make seperate pages for the new tutors in Burthorpe. Maybe also make new pages for the Burthorpe tutors that aren't listed in my first paragraph. 00:01, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Need some table help
So I put this table together tonight, in order to better standardize our level up tables and make a stronger distinction between f2p and p2p unlocks. For the most part it seems to have worked alright; I added the table to Smithing/Level up table and Attack/Level up table. However, I also wrote up a table for Defence/Level up table, which I have yet to place in the article because, for some reason, my template is now breaking.

Have a look at this. I can't figure out why the template breaks. My usual method of diagnosing a broken table or page is to remove one section of code at a time until I find the responsible section, then examine it for errors. However, that method is not working here; I've removed every section of the table's code and it still breaks. I even had it with just the very first line ("Wear most bronze armour.") and it was still broken! Bleh. Either there's a problem with our servers or my template is somehow flawed. Someone who is better with wikicode than I am, please take a look and see what you can find. -- 10:09, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, this issue has been resolved, thanks to the wizardly efforts of Pulse daemon. -- 01:31, July 1, 2012 (UTC)