Talk:Rare drop table

Two Lists
Seeing as we can never really confirm if an item is or is not on the rare drop table, I decided to split the list into a "Confirmed" and "Likely" list. Obviously the Likely list is much more lenient in terms of what we can put on it, so go ahead and add a lot more stuff to it everyone XD. Though please make sure at least several monsters drop the item before adding it.Anincent 12:22, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Deserves a Separate Page?
I don't think this should have it's own page... it's not a tangible thing, it's Jagex's coding. If anything it should be located at the Ring of Wealth article. Yes, I highly suggest it gets moved there  01:34, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Theres a lot of pages about non-tangible things. I think it deserves a seperate page because it is seperate from the RoW and could make a good reference in various monster pages. It's not a mechanic of the RoW after all, it exists outside of the ring. It does need completing though, but I'm not sure what other Rune/Dragon items might be on it. I tried looking at various monsters who have the rare drop table but the drops weren't completely consistent and I didn't want to guess wrong.

03:54, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree with Kabob799, this Rare Drop Table is a game mechanic of it's own, separate from the Ring of Wealth, so it deserves it's own page. Only some monsters give access to the Rare Drop Table, but the moment we know that it does drop from the rare drop table, we immediately know a lot about what the monster will drop due to a page like this. Also I would suggest making a change to the entire Wiki in regards to monster pages, an additional 'tidbit' on the side stating whether or not a monster does give access to the Rare Drop Table. Something like this would tell players if they would benefit from the RoW because, as the description implies, the RoW is actually useless on some monsters (monsters which do not drop from the Rare Drop Table). In fact, a huge revolution of the Wiki is necessary in light of the knowledge of the Rare Drop Table, since listing items such as Half Keys, Uncut gems, etc. is redundant the moment we know a monster does drop from the Rare Drop Table.--Anincent 06:32, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is NOT the Ring of Wealth Article
I notice there have been several edits adding information about the Ring of Wealth on this page. That is not what this article is about. I've removed mentions of the Ring of Wealth that are not related to the Rare Drop Table. In particular is the statement that the Ring of Wealth affects Charm drops; that has no relevance to the Rare Drop Table. Charms are on a seperate table, made clear by the fact that most monsters will drop three things the majority of the time if a charm drops: a 100% drop, a charm and a normal drop. If Charms were in the Rare Drop Table then it should be a very common occurance that a monster will drop two stacks of items from the rare drop table in one kill (ie. Bones, an Uncut Sapphire AND a Half Key from one kill), or two stacks of charms (ie. Bones, 3 Blue Charms, 3 Blue Charms) which does not occur, thus showing that charms are in fact not in the Rare Drop Table. This would lead to the conclusion that the Ring of Wealth does not affect charm drops, but that's really a seperate issue NOT related to this article.60.240.242.167 10:05, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Monster List
I'm not sure if this is allowed but I added the monster list from the article: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_left_half To this page, as I believe it's more relevant here than it is there. If this isn't allowed then it wouldn't have wasted a lot of my time if it's removed.--Anincent 07:11, February 3, 2010 (UTC) Since the half shield is actually part of the rare drop list, the monsters should be included.XXstaticXX 19:18, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Monster Organization
I would say we should organize the monsters on whether they are slayer monsters or not, and in combat levels, instead of alphabetically.XXstaticXX 19:02, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Dragon med
Is the dragon med helm really on the rare drop table? 20:55, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * It certainly seems so to me. It's dropped by a wide range of monsters and is a really rare drop. If you truly believe that it's not so, then by all means go ahead and remove it. 22:52, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. Even though it isn't worth much it is still a rare drop.Nundinae 22:02, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Clarification
I have compared wikia's listed drop for several low-level monsters that are on the table (Able to tell by shield half) and came up with the following list:
 * Shield Left Half
 * Dragon Spear
 * Rune Spear
 * 5 Rune Javelin
 * Loop Half of a Key
 * Tooth Half of a Key
 * Uncut Diamond
 * Uncut Ruby
 * Uncut Emerald
 * Uncut Sapphire
 * Chaos Talisman
 * Nature Talisman
 * Coins

Rune Spear is found on every monster that drop dragon spear or shield half and jagex did say rune items were on it. Rune javelin is found on 90% of the monsters and I assume the other monsters just haven't had a confirmed drop yet. Coins are all monsters lists, so not sure if they are related to the rare drop table at all. Chaos and Nature Talismans seem to be dropped by all monsters with the rare drop table. Some list only one of the two, which I believe is just due to lack of confirmation. So I would say it is safe to add Rune Spear and 5 Rune Javelins, the others are still not confirmed due to inconstancies. Either way, I'm glad someone took my suggestion to make it (or thought of it on their own =P).

Edit: Oh, and Cockatrice are on the drop table =PBio 05:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * What about 20 addy javs, 42 rune arrows, 150 steel arrows, 100 silver ore, 67 nature runes, 45 law runes, cut dragonstones, dragon meds, rune sq shield, rune kiteshield, rune 2h swords, rune battlaxes, runite bar, cosmic talismans and nothing drops? And I don't think coins are part of the rare drop table since almost all monsters drop coins and not all of those monsters have the rare drop table.
 * Sorry for all the edits but i kept thinking of more that are probably on the list too.


 * Starkiller58 21:53, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

should vyre corpse/vyrewatch be on this list?
Vyre corpse cremation rewards include everything in the rare drop table currently. I know they technically don't drop anything, or get affected by the RoW, but it might be worth noting. Ledzepmtg 02:27, February 19, 2010 (UTC)ledzepmtg in most reference frames never mind, no left half.ledzepmtg in most reference frames 07:41, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Rune Full Helm?
Should Rune Full Helm be on the list? It's dropped by a wide variety of monsters Purepout 10:28, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Rune Full Helm does NOT seem to be on the drop table, since not all droppers give it. Just check the lower level droppers, if they don't give item they it isn't on it. I am pretty sure Cockatrice should be on the list. Also, Rune 2H Sword and Dragonstone are NOT on the drop table. Neither Jellies or Pyrefiends can drop them, and those are just 2 I picked at random. I'm sure you'll see the same thing for some of the other dropper. Chaos Talisman still may be part of it, and it certainly fits nature of the talisman too. Bio 19:27, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Few Additions
Cockatrice should be listed. They drop all the Rare Drop Table Items, so it seems fair to say they belong on list. After all, they were one of monsters I used to figure out the items on the list!

Besides Cocaktrice, there are 2 items that should be added. As mentioned several times before, Chaos Talisman seems to be a Rare Drop Table Items. It is in most of the monsters Drop section and fits the randomness of the drop table nicely.

Besides this, I think the new Ancient Effigies may be from the rare drop table. Jagex did make a comment before about how they considered improving ring of wealth since it isn’t that useful, getting Ancient Effigies sure is useful. Higher Combat monsters have higher Rare Drop Table Rates, so that applies to it as well. The only real way to prove this would be to do many comparisons to Effigy droppers and list of known/suspected Rare Drop Table monsters. If there are some that drop Effigies but not Rare Drop Table, it may be ones we missed from Rare Drop Table list even! Bio 23:48, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cockatrice drop half keys, so that confirms that they do drop from the rare drop table. I'll go ahead and add it. If you see any monster that drops a half key that is not on the list then you should add it.


 * In regards to the items found on the Rare Drop Table, no one can tell for sure what is or what is not on it (besides the ones confirmed by Jagex, being half keys, gems and the left shield half), we can only guess; even if we kill millions of every single monster in the game, and get comprehensive drop tables. The main reason being that it's possible Jagex assign a 0% probability for a particular item on the table for some monsters, and so some monsters might not drop that particular item even if it is on the rare drop table. This seems very likely since a lot of monsters drop 100 noted Silver ores (to name a few: Fire giants, General Graardor, Kalphite Guardians, Dark Beasts, Iron Dragons, Dagganoth Rex, Abyssal Demons) hinting that it may be on the rare drop table, however it seems lower leveled monsters do not drop 100 noted Silver ores. With this in mind, pretty much any item could be on the rare drop table.


 * Also, I seem to recall a Jagex moderator confirming that the drop rate of the starved ancient effigy is not affected by the Ring of Wealth. This would confirm that the ancient effigies are not on the rare drop table, although I can't seem to find the post anymore.Anincent 11:49, June 22, 2010 (UTC)