User talk:Rich Farmbrough

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My curiosity is peaked
Are you Rich Farmbrough from the big W?--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 20:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a yes by the way... Rich Farmbrough, 17:42 28 October 2007 (GMT).

Skill names
Glancing through recent changes, I notice you decapitalised all the skill names (Smithing, Crafting etc) in one of your edits. Unless something's changed without me knowing, we leave all skill names capitalised. Just thought I'd let you know. It's in our style guide. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 13:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Useful
http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?22,23,871,52245938,goto,2 Rich Farmbrough, 12:56 21 December 2007 (GMT).

Category:Grand Exchange by date updated
Regarding the category you've created.. I'm not sure that this category will work (i.e. if the original intent was sorting the pages based on dates), as all pages will fall under "2" since the pages must have been edited in 2008. Even if it sorts within the "2" category, it is sorted alphabetically, and not by dates. Thus, I'm wondering whether we should keep this category, as it does not serves its purpose? 18:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to remind you. The category does NOT work that well.  08:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It you sorted the items by REVISIONTIMESTAMP, it does not account for vandalism edits, reverts, and other edits not relevant to the actual "update". 09:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This is why we have the Category:Needs price update which basically splits the items more systematically in several categories: 7 days, 28 days, 29+ days (since the last update). Even if your method sorts it "oldest first", the category will show all the items in a single category.  The current system (Category:Needs price update) seems more effective.   09:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay then, let's leave it as it is. I actually do have an "unofficial" bot that pulls the data from the Jagex site, and updates the Exchange pages automatically.  (And yes, it is a namespace now.)  This edit was done by the bot.  09:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I never knew what the term "Not Invented Here" meant until I looked it up in Wikipedia just now. I learned a new term today, LOL, thanks Rick!  09:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Dummy?
Dude, why are you saying dummy on every price u update?
 * It's a temporary value. Shouldn't be in the summary. Rich Farmbrough, 13:00 19 November 2008 (GMT).

Price update
Hey Rick, since you're updating the prices using a bot (I'm assuming an automated script of some sort), could you insert the Item objID for the particular item? The objID is used to access the RuneScape page "http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/viewitem.ws?obj=".

For example, Santa hat's objID is 1050, and the page is located at: "http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/viewitem.ws?obj=1050"

You could add it in like this: {{ExchangeItem
 * ID=1050
 * View={{{View}}}
 * Icon= Santa hat.PNG
 * Item= Santa hat

{{Signatures/Azliq7}} 15:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I was planning to add them using a bot, but never had the time to do it. Yeah, I can see that it would be hard to detect vandalism... but we already have links in some/most of the pages anyway.


 * Grand Exchange Database - Current price

{{Signatures/Azliq7}} 15:57, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

are you botted?
you should be, for this period of time with your current long list of edits it might make it more difficult for the anti-vandalism fighters to spot vandalism. 14:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, I can't see the wood for the trees, we must get you botted as a matter of priority. Would it also be possible not to do an update if there has been no price change? 16:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Set minor edits off
 * Set namespace to Main
 * I have left a note at Yew Grove about a bot flag.
 * I have thought about the no-change concept. Possibly there could be a very elegant solution to this.
 * Rich Farmbrough, 17:13 21 November 2008 (GMT).
 * I have thought about the no-change concept. Possibly there could be a very elegant solution to this.
 * Rich Farmbrough, 17:13 21 November 2008 (GMT).
 * Rich Farmbrough, 17:13 21 November 2008 (GMT).


 * Ok I have implemented the "no change" but will still do a full update twice a week - Sat and Wed.
 * Rich Farmbrough, 18:25 21 November 2008 (GMT).


 * Heh, I was just coming here to say the same thing. Can' spot the vandals in recent edits.--Degenret01 18:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You can select Exchange from the drop down list and click invert selection and it shows everything but :) -- 19:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Neat! I have a bot flag now. Rich Farmbrough, 19:28 21 November 2008 (GMT).

Rick, I think you need a separate account. Something like "RickBot" just to do the bot stuff. What concerns me is that as a bot, your "human" edits would not appear in Recent Changes. I highly recommend that you create a separate account just for the automated edits. 13:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, a bot account would be good, but I sort of like the sound of Farmbot (idk why though). 20:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, that's cool if needs be I have registered SmackBot which is the a/c I use on Wikipedia. Rich Farmbrough, 20:21 22 November 2008 (GMT).

Cool.. use SmackBot then. 08:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Source code, please?
I have a serious question however, regarding the automated bot. Do you have source code for this? There is always the Mack Truck theory you realize, you know the one where you get killed by a Mack Truck and we're left without a way to keep updated. More likely would be a case like the PointyBot scenario (trust me, I would never wish a Mack Truck on anyone, but it is one of those theoretical possibilities). What platform/language is it? Inquiring minds want to know. curiously, 20:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I use perl to make a list of pages call wget to read them use perl to analyse them and create an XML file for WP:AWB to run against wikia. Rich Farmbrough, 20:19 22 November 2008 (GMT).
 * Well i see that AWB's source is housed at sourceforge, but I would bet yours is not. 01:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I will probably upload the source at some point to a userpage. Rich Farmbrough, 01:14 23 November 2008 (GMT).
 * "Mack Trucks? I don't worry about those", the procrastinator said.  01:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Holy cow
You've got the 3rd most edits of all time on Wikipedia O_O. How did you do that?! :p 02:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Lots of edits mostly. Used to be most human edits. My bot (SmackBot) has most edits now. Rich Farmbrough, 00:38 6 December 2008 (GMT).

Thanks ^.^
thank you so much for the Sig 13:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Category_talk:Exchange_items_with_no_ID
Hi Rich,

I'm not sure what the contents of this page are here for, but it's creating an awful lot of entries on the wanted pages list. Is this something that can be safely removed? 17:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Change bot account?
Hey Rich. A user brought RuneScape:Bots to my attention; apparently, "all bots must run on separate accounts from their creators". So I was wondering if you wanted to use User:SmackBot for the bot edits, as in flag User:SmackBot as a bot, and de-bot this account. Are you alright with that?--Richardtalk 20:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Weirdness
You and me have the same Fremennik name wow what the chances =O Man tag (Talk) 06:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool! I wondered how many there were, it's part of the reason I put it up. Rich Farmbrough, 19:34 19 December 2008 (GMT).

Wierdest page ever! (in comic book guy tone)

UOTM
Rich, mind if I nomitate you for UOTM? -- [http://www.Runescape.com What's this? ] Colo440 LOL!   17:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How flattering. I would be very happy for you to do that, thank you and happy new year. Rich Farmbrough, 18:55 31  December 2008 (GMT).

Exchange Categories
Where do these live in the exchangeItem template now? Rich Farmbrough, 22:00 9 January 2009 (GMT).
 * They are found in two places:


 * Template:ExcgDefault - where the "default" display characteristics of the Exchange pages now lives
 * Template:ExchangeItem/doc - where you should put category information about the template itself


 * I'll try to respond on your user page as well. I am presuming that you want to impact what categories are linked to individual exchange pages, such as items that haven't been updated for more than 30 days?


 * I hope this helps --Robert Horning 01:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Bot Problems?
I've noticed this article Exchange:Maple logs did not update correctly. Just a heads up.

09:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks it's the commas in the price, it would have fixed it eventually. Rich Farmbrough, 17:46 12 January 2009 (GMT).

bot expansion
Do you think you could expand the bot to also update the historical price charts? 00:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have been thinking about this, and the answer is; not at present. Rich Farmbrough, 20:17 21 January 2009 (GMT).

I was just editing a few Exchange: entries and it hit me that it was a perfect job for a bot and of course you already have a bot account, so ... do you think you could set up a bot to follow the article links and extract the lo-alch, hi-alch, and store prices and then populate those fields in the Exchange: entries? 14:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, the very first one I looked at Spirit zamatrice pouch doesn't exist. I could perhaps do a one-off run, then have it maintained by using the category technique? Rich Farmbrough, 16:41 27 January 2009 (GMT).
 * Wow, nearly 2,000 of them are missing data. One i looked at had no alch values yet had a store price.
 * --however due to how some interpret "store" as price to buy from a general store's player stock versus how others interpret "store" to mean speciality store's main stock infinite price, versus yet other's interpretation as store purchase price, which of course varies between stores, I'd have to say the Store field in it's current incarnation is mostly virtually worthless on the whole.--
 * I'm guessing you had a small go at eliminating some of the holes in the data. From the sample i peeked at it looks like lots of them have mismatching information as is the case with the black kiteshield. What else can you share aside from that category? btw, what is the "category technique"?  05:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Smack-ishBot-ish
I noticed a few edits like this one where the only thing updated was the dates. Then there are items such as Exchange:Bronze dagger which are virtually never going to change. do you think it would be worthwhile to have SmackBot hold off on editing just the date or perhaps decrease the number of times the date alone is updated? 05:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well at the moment SB updates about half the prices everyday, those that have changed, and on Saturday and Wednesday does the whole lot. This was for two reasons, firstly to show that the item hasn't been forgotten, and secondly to keep the category Category:Grand Exchange by date updated in a state where problem items are generally at the beginning. Rich Farmbrough, 14:53 2  February 2009 (GMT).

SmackBot
Hey, SmackBot seems to be malfunctioning. It keeps updating items with incorrect prices. And I don't just mean outdated prices... they're completely incorrect even in the same minute that the bot updates them.

15:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well SB takes a snapshot of the DB and applies those. Yew long I have checked and there is an anonymous IP who makes some odd changes. Rich Farmbrough, 19:31 28  January 2009 (GMT).

SmackBot on Plant Pot (FILLED)
Hi, I noticed that your bot might be looking up the incorrect item for the price. Per this change, I think it looked up the empty plant pot instead of the filled one. Just thought I should let you know. Red X 226 04:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Spell check bot?
Looks like you have a spell check bot up and running, no? -- 08:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I'm just trying it out. It's manual approval of course that's how AWB works. Rich Farmbrough, 08:58 8 March 2009 (GMT).
 * Nice, glad to see it working. -- 08:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please use SmackBot. 08:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a manual process. Rich Farmbrough, 08:58 8 March 2009 (GMT).

Exchange pages
Hi Rich, By browsing the main gemw pages, I've manually managed to fix some of the problems caused by the other bot (LowAlch, Category and LastDate), but it's not so easy to browse what is not on those pages. I was wondering if your bot could produce a list of dodgy looking exchange pages? If you stick them on a page somewhere for me to look at, I'll get them all sorted for you. Cheers 16:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Two requests regarding your signature
Hi Rich, I was browsing through the wanted pages and I saw that your signature has a link around the date field in your sig. While this is an interesting idea, unfortunately it creates wanted pages for each date that you sign an article. I don't think we actually want date articles for each day you sign a talk page. Can you please remove the brackets around the date field in your sig?

Also, there is a new policy about signatures that asks that you put your signature in a template. I believe your signature code should now go here Template:Signatures/Rich Farmbrough and then you just update your signature preferences to say Signatures/yournamehere.

If you have any questions you can checkout this page, Signature, or you can post a message on my talk page. Thanks.

20:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your response, but I'm not sure we're on the same page. What I think is happening is that your signature creates a link to a date page with the same date.  Now, if that date page already exists, fine, it will link to that page.  However, if that date page does not exist, the link will show up in Special:WantedPages.  If you create a link to a page, you assume that the page exists or should be created soon.  My concern is that I don't think we want to create a link to every date that you sign a page.  I would need to see your signature code to better explain myself.  Could you show me the code you're using in your signature?  Also, did you understand the new policy about using templates instead of raw wiki code in your prefrences?  Thanks.  04:49, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Please take a look at Category:Dates_in_RuneScape. Not all dates have pages that are associated with them.  Some have links, but others are just plain text.  I am asking you to please delete the   around the date field in your signature, so the we don't have a wanted page Special:WantedPages everytime you sign an article.  The reason I noticed this about your signature in the first place was because there were wanted links on that page as a result of your signature.  I'm asking you now, so that someone else won't tell you in the future.  Please just take those brackets away from around the date field in your signature.   05:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sets calculator
Thanks for telling me. I will add a message about the prices being rounded off. Hopefully it won't matter to much since the smaller the number, the less numbers it is rounded off to so it would still give a good estimate. User talk  Evil Yanks  Contribs 23:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

GE Updates?
Did you forget to log in on your bot, and log on your main account instead? 23:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

;)
Copying and pasting is an awfully strenuous job... :D WWTDD? 13:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know the type. :( WWTDD? 13:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Bots
I would like a bot that finds grammer mistakes and corrects them and i want it to be called 'grammerbot' and the pass (I will tell you it by email) and i would like you to tell me what to do once you created the bot.

Thanks


 * I didn't know you made bots on demand.
 * I redirected him to AWB, but I find it amusing that he wants a bot to correct grammar, yet cannot spell "grammar" correctly. Ironic, no? 18:35, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

AWB
Hey Rich,

Since you seem a lot more savvy in the coding of the Typos list, would it be possible to set the AWB to ignore the spelling of "color" when it's in the phrase "font color"? I am continually finding this, and it would be nice for it to automatically ignore this phrase, as "font colour" will not display the color properly.

Thanks, 13:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Look out behind you!
19:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Easter
18:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Exchange items
Hi Rich,

I think we got most of the missing items on that list. There were some which were already there and looked fine, which is a bit odd. Perhaps you could run it again and we could see what comes out in the wash. Could it also be programmed to show up duplicate ItemIDs, as I have a feeling there could be quite a few. 12:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rich, I'll be taking a look at those over the course of today and tomorrow. It is weird that the list is bigger than before though... 09:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That makes sense then. Thanks again. 10:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Going through the list, I've come across a problem with that other GE price bot, as you can see here. It looks like he is going by name rather than item ID. I'll have words with him... 12:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, good to get those sorted out. Thanks for producing the list for me. 17:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)