Talk:Scams/Archive 3

gp event
I am suprised nobody had added the "Gp event" scam. I've just added it. 13:04, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

heeft iemand d platebody??

het word gebruikt om stoer te doen en andere uit te lachen het niet te hebben

is niet aardig...

d plate goed om dragen maar niet om pesten en stoer te doen!

lol...

Is this a guide?
I think this is a guide because at the top right of the page it says, "read more: guides"

Game is fame 04:25, November 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's a guide in the sense that it provides information about the community that would not be issued in a Jagex-issued guide. It basically implies in the first paragraph that the page is a guide to prevent players from getting scammed. 05:20, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

In-game, out-of-date, etc.
I think it'd be best to split the Scams section (basically the entire page) into several sections, namely In-game scams, which would include most obsolete scams' and current scams such as item lending, gem cutting; and Account scams which would include such offences as account sharing, password stealing, emails, etc. Most of the obsolete scams are really annoying to read past, and some of the current scams actually provide a little information, so I think this method of organization could really help this page. 05:25, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Major Overhaul
Hello, all. This page is NOT antiquated. With the wilderness and free trade returning, many of these will return. That said, this page should get a large over haul as it's rather important again. I recommend first fixing all of the parts saying that a scam is "Old" for this reason.

On the other hand, it should wait for the wildy to be back, as some things may stay or not be the same as they were originally. 184.57.36.40 20:22, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I was actually planning on doing a major overhaul myself since many new scams recently popped up. (The other day, I added the new Ice Plateau scam to this list.) Here's what I was thinking we should do: It should be organized by their relevance to today. The most common scams are listed first, and then there would be a sub-page containing outdated scams that cannot be easily be performed. Krayfish 14:38, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Remove specifics of scams
I'm really not sure if we're doing more harm than good by keeping all of the specifics posted when showing the scams and how to avoid them. Although obviously the aim of the article is to prevent scamming, the huge list of potential scams is just a range of possibilities for would-be scammers, and the page just tells them exactly what to do. I'm wondering if we should just leave the page as just "things to remember to avoid getting scammed" or something, which would include among other things "never trade in the Wilderness," "armour trimming is impossible and a scam," etc. I really have no way of knowing how many people have viewed the page with intent to scam as opposed to those trying to prevent themselves and others being scammed, however. What do you guys think? 70.109.153.231 17:30, February 2, 2011 (UTC)70.109.153.231

I think that's a bit redundant already seeing as that was the article's original intention. The specifics are what gives players examples of what to avoid when getting scammed as the name of the scam alone may not be enough to describe it. Quote from the article: "This is not meant to promote scamming, but rather prevent players from being scammed. Using these scams and/or cheats can result in action taken against the players' account, if reported by another player. Remember do not fall for these tricks." Regardless, the article is in serious need of clean up as it is a bit of a mess right now.Krayfish 14:35, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Break up even more?
I just did a major overhaul on this article, organizing the scams by category and moving the antiquated scams here, yet this page is still kind of long and causes lag when editing. Do you think the Password scams section should have its own article? Krayfish 15:55, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved the Password scams to a separate page to reduce lag.Krayfish 22:25, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I've removed duplicate instances of various scams and completely overhauled and cleaned up the article.

0087adam 05:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Flower Game?
Now that free trade is back I am seeing alot of people saying that they are playing the "flower game," is this some kind of scam? What is the flower game? XJoMan112x 21:33, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Never heard of it. If I see anyone playing it, I'll take a closer look and write about it if it's a scam.Krayfish 22:25, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I see it all the time around the GE in World 9 (which is the world I most frequent) XJoMan112x 01:53, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

From what I've seen, someone guesses what colour of flower will sprout when the host plants them, and places a bet for this, then the flower is planted. Usually flower game hosts advertise that they will give 2x or more the amount bet if you get it right. I guess some people might legitimately do it but seems like a scam to me. XJoMan112x 00:05, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * As I understand it, the people place bets knowing full well that they will not get any money if the flower is the wrong color. However, I can easily see someone not paying up when they are supposed to if someone guesses correctly. It could be a scam and it could not be. Its all about whether or not the "dealer" actually pays up. 00:35, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Guess it's just a big gamble then XJoMan112x 21:35, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a trust game. 21:37, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a trust game. 21:37, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can this be proved as a scam if the player (Host) doesn't return the cash? Kinglink15 (talk) 07:05, July 20, 2012 (UTC)kinglink15Kinglink15 (talk) 07:05, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a scam if you get scammed. <.< 07:11, July 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ik, but can the player report the scammer and still have effect on the scammer as in being banned/muted, because i did some research, and this scam seems to be like the===Silent scam, so in over all, Host must admit scamming. Kinglink15 (talk) 17:48, July 20, 2012 (UTC)kinglink15Kinglink15 (talk) 17:48, July 20, 2012 (UTC)===

Dialogue sections
The little snippets of dialogue found in the article are completely unnecessary, often stupid, and actually detract from the article. I think they should be removed completely. 00:29, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Per all. 00:40, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Trust game
So the other day, I was on my skiller, watching all the scams take place. I saw a trust game, and decided to watch and bust the guy when he lied. The game went on for a while, and the "bet" got up to 900k, before the guy said we have a winner. He then actually gave the guy his money back, and the 1mil he had been advertising. I was absolutely shocked. So apparently, a trust game is a scam roughly 99.9999% of the time.  Elysian Aura 02:27, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes people who play those kinds of games are actually legit, but there's really no way to tell... XJoMan112x 21:38, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

SO there is no way to Tell if it is a scam, even if it seems legit, cause at times, When one "proves" to be Legit they scam. Kinglink15 (talk) 07:07, July 20, 2012 (UTC)Kinglink15Kinglink15 (talk) 07:07, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Protect item scams
I'm not sure whether things being dropped eg. Regen bracelets which protect over dragon claws should be added. Scammer dies and simultaneously drops a rengen bracelet or d plateskirt. The person picks up the loot and gets pjed by a clan of ancients. The claws are dropped and bracelet kept with protect extra item. 16:59, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

New Info Source
I stumbled upon this post in the forums at its a great source of info since it is directly from Jagex: http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=a2aYglqUZ0Y/forums.ws?250,251,977,62283353

Krayfish 23:42, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

House scam 2.0
Lets say my name is b0bc@t (its not). I have recently been scammed by sc@MMr999. Heres how it went:

sc@MMr999: Hey, b0b, come to my house, I'll show you how to make your Drag chainbody sparkle.

b0bc@t: Okay

(both players go into sc@MMr999's house)

sc@MMr999: Here's how you do it: 1st, press the key left of your 1 key. Next type "Dragon Chainbody_sparkle"

b0bc@t: done

sc@MMr999: now put your chain on the table and it will sparkle

At this point I realized something was up, so i placed my steel dagger on the table. After he saw me put something down, he kicked me from his house. He was disappointed and i reported him. Ive heard this happen to many other people.

sc@MM

Alteration of Rounding Money Scam
I have found a different version of the rounding money scam. You put your $ in the window, and the guy rounds it DOWN! You're so excited about gaining $, you accept right away and the punk steals your money. Or he pretends to make a mistake in the amount, offers like 7 mil for 2, then brings it down to 2. Then right before accepting, he brings it down to like 2k. Then you end up losing $. These scammers are getting crazy!

20:27, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Luring
Cant remember where I saw it, though im sure jagex said luring was part of the gameplay of wilderness. somewhere in one of the F A Q's. a few of the scams that are luring on there ARE against the rules, but a few can be deleted,

~PvM greed~

I dont have a wiki account :p

Seal Game
IF you are not famailar with the seal game this is how it works:

Player1: Bets on a number between 1-6

Player2: Preforms Seal Of Approval emote

Player1+2: Both look at seal's backpack for the number (Number is random)

If Number does not match:

Player1(Better):Oh No :(

and Player2 keeps money

If Number Matches:

Player1:Yay! :)

and Player2 returns bet multiplied by before agreed multiplier

And all the rules are explained to Player1 does this count as a scam?

As a player who says he has an acc with PMod status says that I manupilated the number!

That is impossible!

Advice please.

If all goes as agreed upon it probably would not be a scam, nevertheless everyone is advised not to enter such deals as the game mechanics have no way to guarantee the parties honour the agreement. Even systems like the POH's prize chest aren't safe (the house owner can evict other players denying them access to the chest), and Burthorpe Games room doesn't allow stakes. To be honest, maybe if they created a managed gambling game the amount of scam-prone activities would be reduced. 23:21, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dungeoneering Cape emote scam
seen in the history someone blanked my Dungeoneering cape emote scam lol I must of ruined is only source of im come :D Tilburys 02:10, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

This ^ does not make any sense whatsoever.

well if you check the histoy of cheats and scams article someone keeps blanking (removing) my info on dung cape emote scam so im saying I must be ruining his/her only source of money income by posting the scam on wikia :D you get it now? Tilburys 11:19, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Poor Quality
The grammar and sentence structure in this article are absolutely atrocious from top to bottom. Can someone with knowledge of the English language please rewrite some of this/all of this?

hear, hear!

Major Cleanup
I have just completely cleaned up the article, neutralized everything and removed duplicate articles. I also corrected most grammar and spelling errors, as I have completely rewrote the article. I may add graphics later.

0087adam 05:21, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

"Cheats" Unnecessary in the Name?
I think just Scams, Scamming or "Scams and Scamming" would be appropriate. Xhanort7 21:38, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

RUNEWIN - This is purportedly a linux client. Does anyone know if it is legit or a scam? If it is not legit, does anyone know of a legic linux client? If there is not a legit linux client, I'd like to donate to a group to convert the open source client to linux so there could be a legit linux client. Please advise.

The Quitting Scam
I do think this scam is notorius enough to be added. They have even put up a sticky about this particular scam at the Account Help section of Runescape Forums. Although I'd rather call it the lending scam or something akin to that. 80.222.9.206 10:03, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Trust Trades Are Illegal, EVEN IF NO SCAM TAKES PLACE

I am tired of having all my edits deleted when I say that trust trades are against the rules. I have had this confirmed by four different moderators, and it follows common sense and accepted ethical policies. A player who offers to perform a trust trade can be reported for encouraging rule-breaking because some (though admittedly not all) of these people are scammers. The use of these gambling games, and especially the witnessing of a scam, encourages other players to attempt to host the game themselves to make money unfairly. In a nutshell, it puts a bad idea into the heads of players who want some quick cash and who know that Jagex does not punish scammers heavily enough.

Gambling is an unscrupulous way to make money to begin with, and is illegal in many parts of the world for many good reasons. Note that most of the individuals playing this game are under 18 years of age, and are therefore not qualified to gamble in the United States. A player who has luck with gambling, and who does not end up being scammed, is likely to continue the game with different and potentially less reliable hosts and with increasing amounts of money.

Though experiencing a large loss of money can help teach players important life-lessons about gambling (don't do it!) it is also an unnecessary loss of time and money for many, and feeds the unethical behavior of others. I thought this would be an important and valuable contribution to this article, since most people are unaware that trust trades are illegal, and think instead that they are "frowned upon" and cannot yield definite punishment.

66.8.148.21 07:25, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Doctor Karma

oh wow really?
you see the solution for the "i am wuitting and giving away my account" scam? is that not encouraging rule breaking? Kmmnderkoala 06:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

How to Troll a Scammer
I have only done this with doublers so far. What you do is you give them 1 coin to "test" then, and keep on giving them what they give you back (they give you 2, you give it to them back to test them again) until you decide you have enough money. This wastes a lot of time, can earn you on average 8k (I've gone higher xD) and also prevents the scammer from scamming others because you and your epic trolling skills are engaging him in trollfare.

Have fun,

20:58, January 31, 2012 (UTC)