Talk:Ritual of the Mahjarrat

I read somewhere it will include While Guthix Sleeps as a requirement... 00:48, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I hope so I'd like to eat Lucien for breakfast right nao.
 * Do you think you might be able to remember where you read that? 00:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can't wait to meet Ssssslissssske... 01:02, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed  01:06, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Though if it turns out he's not the one who cursed the Barrows Brothers... my life's work is undone! D: [[File:Silver sickle.png‎‎]] Asparagoose   16:45, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait to see who will die in The Ritual :D User:Chiro9

can't wait to show lucien that i have more knowledge then him and to evenge the friends that he murdered (if you want to call it revenge/vengeance you might but i also call it justice)

Wow, Death 4210, where did you find those sketches of mahjarrat faces? Those things are horrifying! User:Durmer Darc

I can't wait until this is released... I'm a huge fan of that quest series. Castrosad 07:37, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

i think the strange power is related to the death of a mahjarrat if a power is realeased when a mahjarrat dies it could be what happens to you when the mahjarrat dies in the ritual! its sooo obvious like bilrach might of finaly died..... accidentaly or purposly i can say.....

to be honest this quest is going to be extremely long for my satisfaction, its gonna have to tie up alot... majjhratt, while guthix sleeps, dragonkin, fraesnske, dungeoneering, and possibly myerditch unless they lied about it being last ;o Masterx3829 03:19, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I doubt it will be part of the Meiyerditch series as well... That's a separate storyline (so far) and Jagex Moderators have mentioned that there will be likely more than one more quest in its series. Though, I agree, it will likely tie up quite a bit and will have some very large requirements... Or so I hope. 01:49, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Requirements
Wonder wich is right, first of all.. In Quest Cape wiki, it says in trivia that there will be wc and fletch to be raised from their current minimum requipment, that will be 83 and 78 fletch, wut? And here now it says, shows da pic, hope it's right there, mmmmh.

Gonna take a punt here, as a theory. Quest Requirements likely to include.. Nomad's Requiem, While Guthix Sleeps, Temple of Sennisten. Otherwise not sure, Excited tho! The-Dreamcaster 16:48, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

The woodcutting and Fletching levels are correct, and 65 Dungeoneering will be on there too. Nomad's Requiem will not be a requirement. 15:03, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hoi! dungeoneering is not a guarenteed requirement. it was near the time dungeoneering came out when a player asked what the requirements were from a mod, and the mod did not say "it's 65 dungeoneering", the mod stated "while you're waiting, you may as well get 65 dungeoneering", the level for bal'lakk the pummeler. it is possible that the mod did not mean it was a requirement, and that that mod may have designed bal'lakk the pummeler and wants players to fight him, instead of it being a requirement. also, why would the mahjarrat go dungeoneering?

Picture Zamorak with full novite on.

dungeoneering is very much a request the screenshot shows him answering the question my lad. also seeing as dungeoneering is not required in any quest to date its a perfect way to endose it. also the dungeons (made under the dragonkin castle, HINT HINT) were explored by bilrach the mahjarrat so maybe you should ask him. so i think its safe to say dungeoneering is invloved :)

While I agree dungeoneering will likely be a requirement, the screenshot isn't very clear as to what he meant. Also, the castle was built there by the Dragonkin to protect the rift(I believe this is said somewhere, I can't remember). The tunnels weren't explored by Bilrach, they were created by him. Teh alch 14:45, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

As a side note, one mod or another(I can't remember which) said Nomad's Requiem won't be tied to the Mahjarrat questline. Teh alch 14:47, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Dungeoneering requirement
I'l like to suggect he perhaps meant that we would be better off getting 65 dungeoneering first. Teh alch 01:35, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ritual Stone leak - legitimate?
There has been some talk on the forums about a possible leak of the location of the Ritual Stone. To get to the point, here is a link to the KB's map of the Wilderness. Notice just under Ghorrock Fortress, there are some hills and a sole rock. This is not on the player's world map. Can I post this image to the page as a possible leak?
 * Yes but you best post it to somewhere like imageshack then embedd it here as wiki policy is that all photos must be used in an article 21:12, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Release Date
Well, there seems to be proof it's not out in March....

Small090 17:29, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Apparantly, there's saying that it's coming out July next month...!

Gods of Bandos 19:22, June 5, 2011 (UTC)Gods of Bandos

Release Time Speculation
Speculation: RotM will be quest #200, which means it'll take two more years of waiting. At a rate of one quest per month, it should arrive june 2013. Summervacations starts in june (approximately) so it would be a smart decision (from the business' point of view). Another possibility is december 2012, playing on the End of the World predictions (which are blatantly stupid, as the Mayan calendar is a CALENDAR, as in Gregorian calendar)

Civie 09:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

My two cents may not be worth it, but the mayan calendar doesn't even end in 2012, it just marks the beginning of a new time period (which is just an irrelevent number of n x 20).

VEry very douptful considering jagex have stated it will come out early this year and hoped to get it out last year

81.136.200.43 14:33, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Postbag 45 hint of yet-to-come quest, perhapsiesh.
Why, many of ye fellas noticed thingy in Postbag 45? The second post for tormented demon, there as it answers, i noticed rather interesting part wich was 'That Lucien's the one who'll die,', wichfore i be beliving that it be hint that Lucien will certainly be 1 to die during this yet-to-come quest, even before this postbag i felt it to be obvious, but now quite surely sure of it. Anyfancybodyelse?

-Sane ol' guv

" Death 4210 13:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Requirements
Regarding the requirement speculation behind smithing and VSB - They are fake. The community poll, as confirmed by Mod Mark H is just for fun and Mod Timbo is not a developer for him to be leaking anything of that nature. There has also been no sources mentioned for the smithing requirement, and no ranks in his clan chat know anything about it (and I'm sure they would know).

Just wanted to clarify that before people started editing it back, etc. Moe Is 4210 Death 4210 13:36, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Speculation
Zaros could possibly appear in this quest, because it is the last part of mahjarrat series, and it does involve Zamorak.

Also the draognkin were featured in both of the quest requirements so were likely to se dem as well :O
 * Maybe, but it is speculation, so don't add it. 19:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

idk why speculation never hurt anyone ^^ not to mention its possibly informative :p

Hmm, I kind of doubt that the dragonkin will come up in this quest, perhaps in a sequel of some sort.

Is it not possible that zaros will come and destroy some of Zamorak's forces?

honestly dragonkin very likely involved due to dung req, dungeons are under their castle :p but whos to not say this is the end of lucien and wgs series? only mahjarrat finale has been confirmed and we just gotta wait and see how it all plays out (:
 * Daemonheim isn't the same as Dragonkin Castle. (: 21:29, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

odds are stacked for the dragonkin (: the quests required briefly involved them, dungeoneering, etc etc so like i said above gotta wait and see :D

The question mentioning them helps, yes, but dungeoneering is not a worthwhile argument, they abandoned the castle ages before Bilrach and his followers dug the tunnels underneath. Teh alch 14:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Zamorak
Zamorak is indeed a god, but he was once a mortal, and in fact still is. Take a look at Jhallan, for example. He missed a ritual, and so lost literally all of his power. Therefore, one could conclude that if Zamorak misses a ritual, he will lose all of his power. However, if lucien stays true to zamorak, zamorak could survive with the stone of Jas. However, if he does not, zamorak will be rendered completely powerless, unless he attends the ritual. however, guthix created the edicts of guthix which prevent zamorak from attending, so unless lucien holds up his bargain, Zamorak is dead. I think that azzanadra may tear a strip from him after the ritual.

Sounds like point for Zaros to strike.

Indeed it is! However, as Zaros fizzled out exactly 4000 years prior to guthix's awakening, guthix knew not who Zaros was, and so he must have been excluded from the edicts, if they even exist. Therefore, one could conclude that Zaros has the perfect layout to lay seige to Zamorak's accursed empire.

If that were true, Zamorak would have already missed four rituals, and be long since powerless, but he isn't, so we can conclude he doesn't need to attend rituals. Teh alch 14:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

we can also conclude that maybe since hes a god he gets weakend every ritual before his powers come back?

Zamorak is a God now and it is very unlikely that he would need to attent the rituals to maintain his power, allmost to the extent that the suggestion seems impossible. The mahjaarat are near god like beeings but mortal nevether the less, their need to attend the ritual is to replenish their enegry, their life scorce so to speak. An odd but rather effective way of explaining this is, they are like recharble batteries, they come in all shapes sizes and capisities, through time they eventually wear out their energy and the ritual is the chance to replensish this. The sacrfice at the ritual unlesshes the enitire energy of the the sacrafice beeing, to which the closer to the scource the more energy is uptaken, as few others are there to either obtain most of it first or beforen it simply escpes ther grasp. On the top of zamorak again, he is a God and thus imortal, as such he can not die, and as a consiuence he can not suffer the fate someone like jhllian near surcomed to. The most likely or not Zamorka now dervises his power like saradomin and guthix do from nature and their followers respectivly as God.

-Aqua seeker of darknees 86.170.91.149 18:38, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dragonkin Involvement
Just today I was informed by a friend of mine that Mod Mark said in his cc that "If you thought Nomad was hard, then the dragonkin will not be easy for you." Does anyone perhaps have a way to confirm this potential hint at a dragonkin boss with a screenshot?" Thanks. Nooble198 18:24, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

we indeed do not as of now but do you have a screenie of mod mark stating this? i would like to see it

also the dragonkin are highley likely to be involved seeing as the is mahjarrat finale, but who knows maybe this series will branch out into others?

on another note dungeoneering takes place under a dragonkin castle and dungeoneering is a req so this will be interesting

The Dragonkin abandoned that castle ages before the dungeon had been formed by Bilrach and his followers. Teh alch 14:37, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

doesnt mean they wont come back to it lol, who says theres not more than 3 dragonkin possibly?


 * If there are more than three dragonkin, they would discuss things all together, and not only with three of them. 10:01, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Wander of mi mind.
I be telling you, it's quite obvious that Lucien is the 1 of whom will be dying during this dramatic event, wonder of how? I'd have fancy hunch over Zaros appering to ritual site just in time, seeing what Lucien has become, surely close to Zamorak, and if lucky, this be moment when Zaors strikes Lucien, perhaps?.. These be surely random mind dwellings of mine, yet, i've noticed even stronger prove of Lucien's death, wich be in this sweet valentine postbag from the hedge, eh.. Tormented demon there flashing a word over '...Lucien will be the one to die...', something like that, aye.

i like your conclusions but the other 1 i see dying is azzandra. dont know why but it just seems like it will happen if u get my point

I dont think so. Azzandra dying seems highly unlikely, because he is basically the main the reason that Zaros will return. And as stated above, there was indeed a hint in the postbag over the hedge... My guess is that Bilrach will reach "the Rift" and bring back Zamorak. And the following events will most likely be Zaros returning to get his revenge on Zamorak.

P.S: Lucien is a Gasbag.


 * Bilrach bringing back Zamorak? I don't think so. That would mean Guthix would be awakened and reshape the world, which practically means R.I.P. Runescape. If Bilrach reaches the rift, I don't think he'll find Zamorak there... 14:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Zamorak
I know quiet a few people have speculated that Zaros may make an apperance. But considering how the quest has been confirmed to tie in with W.G.S, and from it luceins plot to overthrow the god of chaos. May it be possible that Zamorak himself will be involed in the quest in anyway, direct or not? The Edics are not perfect and to me if any God has involvement in the quest, it would logically be Zamorak not just Zaros.

86.170.91.149 17:52, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

^
Zaros' didn't get effect from the Edicts, do note.


 * But Zamorak does get affected, so he can't really have big influence. 05:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Who are you calling a fake, idiots?
The pic that was posted by Death is 4210 is true info mainly because i asked Mod mark about the facebook post so stop removing the damn pic XzarDragon 13:32, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * It looked fake because unnecessary lines were removed to make the image smaller. I have re-added them image to the page. 13:35, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * This seems to happen a lot... People delete stuff because they don't want to check if it's real or not, tis what happened when I added info about the FoG Token found in Daemonheim... (Elfangor)
 * This seems to happen a lot... People delete stuff because they don't want to check if it's real or not, tis what happened when I added info about the FoG Token found in Daemonheim... (Elfangor)

ROTM Requirements?
Supposedly Mod Mark has released the requirements for ROTM. I have attempted to clarify but haven't had much success. The (possible) requirements are:


 * 78 Smithing


 * 77 Agility


 * 78 Woodcutting


 * 83 Fletching


 * 65 Dungeoneering

Like I said, I have been unable to clarify the truth to these claims, but this is just what I heard 22:42, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 78 Smithing is still up in the air I think, but the rest have been confirmed. (: 22:44, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there a forum post or something like that where they're posted? 22:47, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Tons of them in the FU forum, here's the most popular one. 22:49, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dev Blog author
Should be credited as "Paul" not "Mod Paul" --99887 07:43, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

A major plotline, "which has only really been touched on before", begins in earnest during the quest.
I wonder what this could be, has anybody had any ideas as I have? A couple I've had are:

1) About lucien becoming a God, this has not been majorly touched on before, merely hinted at such as the use of the Staff of ARmadyle, same item used by zamorak to become a god. (however i see this as unlikely to be what is mentioned as this seems rather obvious)

2) Zaros' return. This has only been touched on and taht is the player/Azzandra contacting Zaros at the end of the Temple at Sentilisten when the player unlocks the Curses. Jagex have stated that/hinted towards balancing of the Curses from benefiting Melee players far more than Rangers and Mages. This may be part of the reward that "
 * The rewards will feature useful equipment for mages.
 * The rewards will feature equipment which will be useful for rangers in certain situations."

While the Curses aren't strictly equipment but they could be part of it.

Jammy Duel 18:28, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think (hope!!) both events will feature in the quest, which hopefully is at least twice as long as While Guthix Sleeps. Being familiar with Jagex hints, I think we should take "touched on" literally: Stone of Jas. 18:31, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this major plotline involves the Dragonkin? So far we have only seen them in some cutscenes and we have found some relics of the time they spent in Runescape, so that could what Paul meant with "only really been touched before". The just released city Ketshi also implies that the Dragonkin are resurfacing. The acces code to the city was mentioned in a dev blog about the Mahjarrat quest line, yet there is a relief in Ketshi of the Dragonkin destroying the city. Coincindence? I think not. Saik agent 14:41, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, the cutscene at the end of WGS features Dragonkin. ROTM is a sequel to WGS, so Dragonkin will surely come in the quest. They've been confirmed to be the boss, as I read on the page =]. 14:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, the cutscene at the end of WGS features Dragonkin. ROTM is a sequel to WGS, so Dragonkin will surely come in the quest. They've been confirmed to be the boss, as I read on the page =]. 14:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, the cutscene at the end of WGS features Dragonkin. ROTM is a sequel to WGS, so Dragonkin will surely come in the quest. They've been confirmed to be the boss, as I read on the page =]. 14:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

I am fairly sure they're talking about Dung here which would in every sense utterly make me want to kill myself. I hope you guys are right, especially Zaros Returning. -- 20:45, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why would that make you want to kill yourself? Believe it or not, it's just me... 20:49, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

The new 'major storyline'
The last of the already confirmed items is that the quest will feature the start of a new major storyline that has only been touched upon before. Whilst reading through the forums, I saw this interesting post by Paul. I quote:
 * "People have generally expressed a preference for us to focus on the plotlines we’ve already started, so expect more from existing series like Mahjarrat, fairies, the Myreque... Also, we will be starting to go into more depth for a couple of things we’ve only touched upon before. The Kin still wait, but for how much longer? "

Compare this to what Paul - the same person - said in his recent developer blog:


 * "What’s more, one major plotline - which has only really been touched on before - begins in earnest during this quest."

I don't know what you think about this, but it seems to me that this could at least be mentioned as added info about this. Cryptagon 21:00, June 27, 2011 (UTC)