Talk:Dwarf multicannon

I need help!
I just bought a Dwarf Cannon from the Grand Exchange in a set. I completed the quest. How do you set it up? If you know, put it below in the space. I need help. Thanks. Right click base, click set up. Use cannon balls on the cannon and then click fire or just click fire and it will load it up automatically and start shooting. Every 30 cballs you must refill it.
 * Can you leave a Dwarf Multicannon to fend on its own?___________________________________________________________________________________

Yes, but it will run out of ammunition very quickly, plus it will decay after a set time. A free replacement can be obtained from Nulodion if this occurs.

can you set cannons up in pest control?--Andy mci 20:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot


 * Can anyone confirm that cannons aren't allowed in the slayer caves cuz I'm pretty sure I saw someone using a cannon in the caves awhile ago... 00:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * They can be used in the desert slayer dungeon. Spray Guard 10:50, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can this be used in the wilderness? --Wiiwantxbox 21:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

It may be, but I doubt it is. Another possibility is that you may use it in early wildy, but not deep. But it would make PK'ing way too easy and I doubt you can.

Cannons CAN be used in the wilderness, they will just not fire at players.

You should really change the 400 charges thing. I just had around 3.5k runs until the decay warning came up.

Yes, the 400 comes from the Runescape guide, but the number of shots before the warning seems to be inconsistent.

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how do you open up the cannon if its just a dwarf cannon set it says you can use it and drop it but how do u open it to get the pieces? To open all sets, right click on a person in the grand exchange and setlect "sets." You will get an interface showing a bunch of different armour. From there, click the "exchange" option on the cannon set.Mjc3 18:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Must you do the quest to use the cannon? I was under the impression that you only needed the quest to buy it from the npc. What if u buy from a fellow player?

yes you need to do the quest to use the cannon.

the dwarf multi-cannon has its own techniques so yes you will need to complete the quest to obtain this spectacular weapon but you also have to be members.

Does the cannon's damage depend at all on range level?

Yes, you do not need a certain level to use it but, it will hit high numbers more often if you are a high level.71.122.245.55 22:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The Grand Exchange price is currently 530k. to set up a cannon put down the cannon base then but down the cannon legs, then the barrels, then the furnace

If i set up the cannon at green dragons and died while it was on the ground what happens i really need to know plz

After you do the quest and are able to use the cannon, if you end up dying while it is set up you can get it replaced for free because it has a 'warranty' on it. If it is set up and you log out same thing, Just talk to Nulodian and he will replace it. Your old one will dissapear in like 10 minutes and nobady else can loot it.

Your cannon stays in the spot it is in, and even fires at the enemies while it has ammo, but if you do not pick it up soon enough (within 25 minutes of setting it up, usually no matter how many shots are fired), it will decay and the cannon is lost forever (of course, you could always go to ice mountain or the grand exchange to get another one).

Than your cannon just stays there, and if it is away (that can) than you just can get it bij nulodeon for free ;)

Logging out
I was wondering whether if you log out with the cannon set up, does it go to Nulodian? Or is it lost? (I'm assuming it doesn't automatically appear again when you log in)

As an avid Slayer with poor internet connection, this information would be really useful for me to know. --Alex1908 18:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you log out or the cannon decays, you can get it back from Nulodian. --nekobawt 23:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone know where the best place to use this cannon and still make money if you but the cannonballs would really like to know as i need to lvl my range and am quite poor so would like to make money not lose
 * The best place to use the cannon depends on what monster you want to use it on. Lots of different monsters have decent cannon spots. --nekobawt 23:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

You can log out and the cannon will be back at the place you left it or at the dwarves where you can buy them, there used to be a glitch that if you logged out it could be stolen but now that is fixed.

God Wars Dungeon
Can this be used safely in the God Wars dungeon, say on the bodyguards for each general? I know it says the actual generals will destroy it, but you could still make a nice profit off the bodyguards. Anyone tried this? 24.129.79.94 03:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Cannons cannot be used in the boss rooms, and, if you can set one up anywhere else, it would be pretty suicidal. Alex1908 22:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats the max hit? Apollo81001 22:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Hey i brought my cannon for a good deal because its worth it.I practice on lvl 42 moss giants while im using my dharoks greataxe they both hit major 30's

What effects the max hit and the accuracy of the cannon?
My ranged is 47, should I buy a cannon? If yes, plz say what I should train on for exp. Blackhole252talk You should try training on anything that drops good stuff i use my cannon on slayer and on barrows i make a lot of money this way and yes buy a cannon

One thing that seems to affect the effectiveness of a cannon is the effectiveness of the weapon you are weilding. I used a cannon while weilding a bronze axe and it hardly hit more than about 3. I wielded a whip and it went back to normal. O3 Depleter 13:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Factual correction
It is possible to set up the Dwarf Multi-Cannon in the Wizard's Tower. If you want I can provide a screenie or animated gif for use/proof.

Yes it is possible I tryed it and if not made already correct this error. Also remember to sign your post with four tilde (~) in any talk page. Thanks - 03:10, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Multiple Cannons
Are we allowed to use more than 1 cannon?


 * The limit is 1 cannon per person. [[File:Zaros_tally.PNG‎]]  Oli4burggraa  Talk[[File:Runecrafter_hat_y.PNG‎]]  08:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you can own as many as you like, but you can only setup one at a time. Given that most times you loose it you can get it back for free, I don't see that there is any point in owning more than one. O3 Depleter 14:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

You probably won't get a free new one if you still own a cannon either. 18:35, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Decay
I think cannon decay is on a timer, and not based on number of shots, because i got the warning message when it wasn't firing. Maybe there is a minimum number of shots for it to decay, or to start the timer or something. --98.238.208.25 15:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the cannon's decay is based on a timer, it gives you a warning message in 20 minutes if it is on the ground and not picked up, and it will decay in 25. However, the decay is a one time thing, and it can easily be fixed by picking up the cannon and setting it back up. Also, Jagex must have updated this, because last time I checked, you couldn't get the cannon back if it decayed.

Quick Question
By using the cannon, can you gain attack exp? -  Chasingu   19:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it only gives you Ranged xp. . 19:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh ok. Thanks. Otherwise I would have bought it and it would have been a waste. - White party hat.PNG Chasingu  Guthix logo.svg 19:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is a timer. You get the warning message after 20mins and then it decays 5 mins after that. When you get the warning message, if you pick up then cannon then re-assemble it the timer resets. You have a point,it depends on the state of your cannon. for me it decays after like 4k cannonballs. If by chance it does decay you can get it back from a guy whos name beggins with n Nulodeon on ice Mountain.

Update to cannon in 2008
"However, in August 2008, an update was made[source needed] to the dwarf multicannon that expanded the target regions"- This was not an announced update so it won't be found in the archives. Does anyone remember what announced update it came with though? (Might actually have been late July, I can't remember.)
 * I read through every update post in August 2008, and I didn't find it. I'll look through all of 2008, however it will not be found in the Patch Notes archive, since those only started being archived in January 2009.  03:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Importance of putting the cannon link on pages where is cannot be taken.
Hey,

I bought a cannon and used it. Thought I might take it to slayer tower and searched the page for cannon. It had no reference, so I took it. This was annoying to find I couldn't use it. Shouldn't it be displayed on the page in which it cant be used?

I agree, dude. It seems the page doesn't include a full list of locations where u can't take it. The list should be expanded (if possible). And yes, the pages for locations where u can't take it should display that either with a template or just a small trivia reference. 23:05, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to know where you can or can't use the cannon, it would make more sense to check the cannon's page, or if it's a large list a subpage that is linked to from the cannon's page. Location pages might have it in their trivia, but I would expect the cannon page to be more reliable and more convenient. 16:28, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kill stealing
Is it just me or are you guys getting tired if training somewhere, and some whiny little runt puts up a cannon..it makes everyone else have to world hop - istnick

Sounds like you're the one whining, it's perfectly fair to use it. 212.183.140.58 11:35, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

it i sa little annoying when a cannon would be put up in a multi combat zone and just kills everything leaveing nothing behind "istnick" has a point. Voruse 14:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * You have to weigh in the following factors:
 * There are many locations where cannons can't be used, most slayer dungeons for obvious reasons.
 * Almost everyone can use a cannon if they wanted to (just requires one small quest).
 * Cannons are usually more expensive than conventional methods.
 * Actually, the wiki is not the place to discuss such matters.
 * 16:33, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Cannon for slayer
This would probably need a whole separate page, but if someone could please compile a list/chart of all the slayer tasks and say whether there are any creatures of each task which can be attacked by cannon, and if so where to find some. I have not slayed in a while as i wish to keep my combat relatively low, but am planning on starting to slay again. When i do, I would like to use cannon on as manyh tasks as possible. If such a list already exists somewhere I'd appreciate a link to it here, Thanks.

Drops?
Do Cannons pickup drop automatically, or do you have to go after them? ~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~ 00:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * You have to manually pick up the drops yourself. 00:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks alot, and thanks for the rapid response :) ~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~ 00:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * You might want to consider the Bonecrusher and Herbicide, they work well with the cannon. 16:35, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lost half my Dwarf cannon
I was being killed and my Cannon only got half set up so now i have half a Cannon

will the guy replace my half the cannon i lost?

Iwazhere 00:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

No he only replaces your cannon if it has degraded. 23:33, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Or he replaces it if it is somehow stolen while it is being set up, but this was fixed with the new cannon update because now there is an auto setup that you cant steal from.

Does the Full Slayer Helm with the 15% Bonus Improve Cannon Accuracy???
Does the Full Slayer Helm with the 15% Bonus Improve Cannon Accuracy??? How do you know this information - Did it come from a Jagex Mod, did you test it, did you read it somewhere, etc.?

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ge cannon
 why is buying the cannon on the ge cheaper. are there advantages from buying from the dwarf?


 * A cannon in the GE is cheaper because of the low price when sold to a shop, players wanting to sell their cannon are better off doing so through the GE even with the lower prices. Also, there are no advantages or disadvantages to buying through the GE, you will get your cannon back just the same if it disintegrates. DiffusedDawn 14:08, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jagex does not change the price of items in the GE. The prices of items, and the fluctuations of prices, are based on supply and demand. If everyone sells an item at once and not everyone buys it in return, the price for it will drop down. If a lot of people buy but not sell, the price will go up, That's why merch clans work. Therefore, people buy the cannon on ice mountain and they can't sell it back to him easily, so they simply sell it at the GE when they are done. Because people buy it and decide it's not worth it, a lot of people sell it at the GE.
 * It would make more sense to just let it degrade when you're done though. 16:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * It would make more sense to just let it degrade when you're done though. 16:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Combat XP
I have a skill pure, and I want to buy a Cannon. However, apparently it gives you small amounts of Ranged xp. But I've heard of level 3's using them, (and staying level 3) for things such as getting slayer levels. So, what's up, exactly? 01:44, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * You do get Ranged xp from using the cannon at 0.2 xp per damage so I don't know how one would be able to stay level 3 while using one. However it is used by pures to gain Ranged xp without gaining constitution xp and there for one would be able to stay a relatively low level with it (But not level 3). TechLord 22:04, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably your only bet for getting slayer levels is exp lamps, or food/ring of recoil against slayer task monsters, both of which will take forever to level.
 * You could also use penguins, soul wars, pest control or conquest, but I don't see any point in staying combat level 3. 18:39, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * You could also use penguins, soul wars, pest control or conquest, but I don't see any point in staying combat level 3. 18:39, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Void Knight Armour?
Does the damage bonus from void knight armour apply to the dwarf cannon since it is considered a range weapon?

no the max hit is still 300 i really have no clue why but i use void and a cannon and it never has exceded 300 damage :D

Getting the cannon back...
I just bought the Dwarf multicannon from the GE. I will be using it on the Black Demon (The Grand Tree quest). The problem is, after you kill the demon the cannon will disappear: I will lose it. So I was reading a bit and I read I can have it back from Nulodion. The question IS: Seeing I bought it from the G.E., can I get it back with Nulodion? How many times can I get it back for free? And if possible tell me how many cannonballs I should use against a level 172 demon foe. --IRlyLol&#39;d 19:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * You get it back no matter where you bought it, as long as you had it set-up fully when it disappeared. There is no limit to the amount of times. The amount of cannonballs is hard to tell. It depends on your accuracy (of the weapon you're wielding, even if it's melee or magic), the demon's defence and on luck. You could bring silverlight or darklight if you have it to lower the defence. 16:41, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Boosts
Does having boosting prayers on affect it? Like activating Sharp Eye, Hawk Eye, Eagle Eye, Rigour?

And how about potions? Ranging Potions? Or perhaps even Attack Potions? 130.89.160.79 02:57, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Can i get a bigger hopper for my cannon?
I'm getting tired of reloading it every minute, is there a hopper that goes above 30 cannon balls per load?


 * No. 30 is it.--Degenret01 00:54, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Repairs...
This whole notion of repairing decayed cannons...is that only an Artisan Workshop feature? Flaysian  21:31, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe you can just get a new one for free after it decays, and just picking it up and setting it again resets the decay timer.
 * Also, funny coincidence to see you here, you should put that signature in a so you can sign with ~ .  06:20, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can I use my cannon on Black Knights?
I am trying to use a Dwarf Cannon for a video on Youtube. I seem to not be able to plant my cannon and I am wondering if this is a glitch?