Talk:Summoning

Is it worth me adding a list on what creatures you can summon? So far there are two shown via the image icons on the main page: wolpertinger and spirit wolf. Mr. Garrison 12:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * They haven't said that those will necessarily be released. Speculation doesn't belong in articles. Skill 19:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

A Forum Mod stated that Wolpertingers and Spirit Wolves are definitely going to be Summonable. He also said Dreadfowls will be too. 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * A Forum mod? God knows they are reliable, i mean, its not like they work for jagex or anything, so they must know things only jagex would know. 1diehard1 03:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

For training summoning at low level the player can buy chickens in Canifis shop for 9gp each --212.117.117.105 19:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Deletion
Should this page be deleted? It seems that whenever there is an article about something that will happen in the future or be released in the future, it gets deleted with the deletion caption being something like "wait, not out yet" (Some examples are 2007 Hallowe'en event, Clan war, Grand Exchange (pages might only be able to be seen by admins)). What would make this different? 23:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Seeing as how Jagex has actually released content (Development Diaries, wallpapers, etc) for this upcoming skill, I think the article is at least potentially worth keeping around. As it's only about a month or month-and-a-half until the skill is released and this article evolves anyway, I don't think it matters too much right now whether it exists or not, so why bother deleting it? --Nightforge 23:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just trying to say that if consistency with deletion is going to be achieved, this oughta' be deleted. 04:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And by the time that's resolved, it'll probably be time to create the page anyway. Aside from that, though I agree with what you're saying, there's nothing in the Deletion Policy about a case like this, and the closest case I can find being #1 and #2 here. --Nightforge 04:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hhmmm... Criteria number 1 in RS:NIP says that things like upcoming events and mini-games, like that clan wars mini-game, are allowed to be created. Now that I've seen this, I change my point of view. 04:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

summoning may be members only


I think that after all this hype and talk it would be the worst thing you could do to the F2P players if this were members only. The only hope for F2P summoning lies in the fact that summoning increases your combat lvl. Since F2P can go to lvl 126 it seems extremely probable that we will be able to go to lvl 138 as well (which for that we will need summoning).

I really hope that in the dev diary 4 for summoning they will tell us that it will be open for all players.

It will in all likelyhood be members only. The fact that F2P got some new updates just recently, the graphical limitations that they seek to curb and the fact that a new quest (something that will never be given in F2)) will serve as a tutorial indicate this.  Any new skill or quest for F2Pers would probably arrive with the fabled RS3.--172.135.76.125 18:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No such thing as RS3....ever 70.49.204.73 21:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

well thank you for crushing our hopes. or at least attempting to do so. lol


 * Sorry for crushing your hopes, but in the first Development Diary, JaGEx stated that Summoning will indeed be Members only, but i dont think someone that is level 126 will stay in F2P, im also a free player so i also got desillusioned.  19:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Where did they state Summoning will be Members-only? I've read through the diary again and it said nothing about that. Glitzville 13:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a member so I don't care, but if it was members only, then Summoning would be the first members-only combat skill. Zeldafanjtl 22:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not impossible for it to be F2P, but that means they would have to open up Taverley to F2Pers, too, which I doubt will happen, owing to the fact that there is no physical boundary separating Taverley to the rest of the members world, like the members' gate. 72.240.163.23 10:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

And I Qoute "Of course, we wouldn't be hyping Summoning if we didn't feel that it was awesome. "It's my favourite MEMBERS' skill that I've helped to release," says Mod Mark. This opinion seems to be shared by everyone who worked on it: "In terms of quality and quantity, nothing really matches it," says Mod Osborne.

Why the hell do you think runescape would ever release any new content for free players,everything new that comes to runescape is for people that pay money,this is why most people don't play runescape,not only because of the graphics,but because everything is for members,the only thing i ever remember seeing released for free players was the security stronghold,thats all.4.235.186.207 21:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Jesus, dont be harsh..--Zeeus 21:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Um, 4.235.186.207, you're wrong, most people choose World of Warcraft for a more expansive better detailed game than RuneScape. However, a new MMORPG is on the horizon which I guarantee will overtake RuneScape and World of Warcraft. The Elder Scrolls Online. Bethesda got a $300M loan from a finance company and registered www.elderscrollsonline.com (i think that's the one they registered). So hopefully there will be a new game, but back on topic, the MAIN reason they dont add things for free players is because F2P is a trial basically. An unlimited trial. If you like it, shell out $5 a month for the full version. You don't like that F2P has so little stuff? Too damn bad. Jagex gave you more trees to cut then just Normal. I remember back in RSC where you had to stick to cutting normal trees to level up. Now that was harsh. 70.49.204.73 21:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Nice way to put it but that was sort of..... Extreme?
 * Oh hi Bluetarted86....remember me? >=] Anyways, I really really want to see Bethesda give us The Elder Scrolls Online. That would be THE single most sweetest MMO EVAR!. But summoning is bringing my interest back into RuneScape.
 * Uh no i don't recall give me a name then maybe i'll remember?, 21:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Anyways,its going to be members,the only thing i can remember them releases for F2P was the security stronghold,and a few updates,i suppose its not as bad as adventure quest,where they say its free,but you really only get a free amount of logins,i'd say about 5,but at least you only have to pay 20 bucks to get be a guardian in that game.

And where did you find information on an elder scrolls mmo coming up,i think that would be interested,i would probablly be complicated though,considering how realistic the elder scrolls games are,at least the ones i've played,oblivion and morrowind.

Move to new page upon release
Upon the release of summoning should we move all the content on this page to something such as, Speculation before the release of summoning? Or anything else. Whiplash 19:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. And merry Christmas. =D
 * We should just keep the current content on the History section which is now the only section of the article. Xammer 17:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Monday
This skill is going to be out Monday January 7, 2008. I don't have a source I can list, but I do have one, and it's pretty much common sense. It's speculation, I guess, which is why it's here and not on the article. But still. Monday. 72.240.163.23 14:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The Development Diary will almost definitely be released on Thursday the 10th (don't shoot me if I'm wrong) because the third one said 3 weeks til the development diary, and they were exact when they said two weeks until the wallpaper. The first development diary says these diaries are in the run up to the release of summoning, so I'm putting my money on the 11th or possibly Monday 14th.--Andy mci 22:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're source was wrong on the 7th... 18:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It's out on the 14th, smart guy. 70.49.204.73 21:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like yours was wrong, too ... Chocotard 13:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait! My source says January 15! Chocotard 15:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol! :o) 19:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Nessisary Edits
Since someone had decided to lock the article unjustly and I do not have an account (Nor do I plan to get one), I request the following edits to be made. --- Change the last sentence of the first paragraph to "According to Development Diary 3, The skill will be released approximately the second week of January" as I’m certain it did not mean literally 3 weeks after its release and my statement is open-ended and non-speculation. Change all the members-only speculation and remove the section and delete the photos and add in the sentence, "Paul Gower has confirmed that Summoning will be member's only." Change "Skill Icon" To "Mysterious Icon," and include that it is speculation that it is the skill Icon. Also delete the interface as it is not cannon. Delete the "KB Leak" sentence as the picture #1: includes the wrong skill name, and #2: does not feature the commas or XP Until next level ans is obviously a fake. Delete the penguin egg speculation in Dev Diary 2 section as it is not been confirmed by Jagex and players have searched for it and there is no SOLID evidence that it is the supposed "Penguin egg." Then re-word the entire section into a paragraph. Enter a "BTS Jan 2008" section with the information provided in the BTS, right before Wallpaper 3. Even though it would not work chronologically of release, move the pet shop underneath Dev Diary 4, as a way too keep the news and in-game separate and keep that section clean. Finally, unlock the article. One person’s action does not constitute a lock. The members are doing more harm to the article than the anonymous are. Just because someone wrote in a profane word does not mean that the article is a hot-spot for taggers. Thanks! 70.109.13.69 20:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * On the same token, someone should put that Taverly might be given to the Free players, as they did give us the duel arena. Plus, as most know, Mod Piers is the co-creator of runescape, and it is entirely possible that he let that piece of information slip, and now the other Mods are trying to cover it up. Members get a humongous world, it wouldn't hurt for them to give us 1/999 of it. We could get a few more quests and perhaps even herblore. I can assure you though, if Free players do not get summoning, I will be protesting. 72.161.204.183 23:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Though Piers said it will be F2P, Paul Gower said it will be P2P, which further puts the on-going argument of Summoning being either free or not free at a stalemate. Odds are though, Summoning will be P2P, or at least greatly limited by F2Pers. 23:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "Plus, as most know, Mod Piers is the co-creator of runescape"

That is not true. Andrew and Paul Gower are the original creators of RuneScape.

In game hints that could be related to summoning

 * Eggs (in the wallpaper):
 * Red egg (from birds nests)
 * blue egg (from birds nests)
 * raven egg (from birds nests)
 * vulture eggs (drop from vultures around agility pyramid)
 * karthulhu (mentioned in dev diary, drop from zombie pirates on brainded isle)
 * incubator (can be found in Yanille when playing on low resolution)

Summoning definitely exists
Don't buy the troll's BS. Chocotard 14:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

glich to be put on summoning page ( please give me opinions)
I previously put the hiscore glich on the summoning page, but some one deleted it, i see no reason for deleting it, it's important and related to the topic ( the undefined skill appeared for an hour on high scores) and i have a picture for it's page with 20 names lvls 42 and 41, should we put it? tell me 23:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Riot
Just wondering, but is there anyone else who would like to riot regarding the fact that Jagex got the Ftps all excited about summoning, and then said we weren't going to have it. Jagex never gives ftps anything, and i'm riled up about that, and want to riot, let me know if you want to. My runescape account is pikag172.

1st: this talk page is for discussing the article not your opinions. 2nd: Starting a riot will do nothing to help you and it is against the rules. 3rd: F2p is a demo...they should be lucky they have what they've got. --Rs4life07 05:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In fairness ftp is not exactly a demo. It should be called "Ad-to-play" Rich Farmbrough, 20:27 15 January 2008 (GMT).

My advice is to learn how to fill out a money order and stop complaining. Chocotard 14:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I am f2p too and i am very excited that i will see p2p while they train summoning, that will not affect me. i adapted myself, and my parents will never get the idea about paying 30 Egyptian pounds ( half my month money) in a game!! 14:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess, i was just looking really forward to new stuff on ftp, and my parents won't let me get mems. 72.161.50.201 23:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The mysterious icon
I'm probably going to look stupid by saying this, but the icon at the bottom of the page almost looks like a rune, maybe it is the new life rune or something similar, others of you may have noticed this too.

I don't want to state the obvious but it just looks that way.

JU®n¥mAñ01 17:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not stating the obvious - in fact, it's unlikely that it's a rune. That would imply that it's an addition to the Magic skill, which the mods have already said it's not. I think it's the skill icon, but we'll have to wait and see. Chocotard 13:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

EPIC PHAIL
Jagex must have been on crack making this skill. They made a combat skill which requires grinding at an obelisk. LOL. --Whiplash 17:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

they have broken hand fishing
hand fishing animation is completely messed up now and so is harpooning with a spear.
 * Update: All fishing animations are pretty much f*cked.

Trapping
Apparently, according to the Yanille Petshop Owner, when you buy Nuts, Beetle Bits or Flies from her, you can use them as bait in Box traps to catch squirrels for pets. I bought a box trap from the hunting store. I'm gonna test it right now.

the article should be deleted and redesigned
after the release of skill, the article became bale and not effective, We should delete it. and redisign a new nice article. but we should wait untill our members' writers become experts in summoning cause i am f2p.

The skill sucks
Ok so I just did some preliminaries. You get some XP for making a pouch, like 30 or 40 or something. But, when you turn the pouch into a scroll, you only get 1 XP....that's kinda messed. They should raise it to at least half the XP you get for making the pouch.

Also, I was in Falador Square with my Dreadfowl and it wouldn't let me leave the square area to go to Taverly without dismissing my familiar. The whole area thing is kinda messed. You can't summon inside a building.

The only good thing I see is that some familiars have special abilities. Dreadfowls temporarily raise your farming by one level. Good way to get 102 Farming is 99 Farming + Skillcape + Dreadfowl Ability.

My rating of Summoning: 2.5 / 5

Grrrrr...
Dammit, I knew it would be a members only skill. *sigh* And the update on the login screen sucks, too. And so does the new music. There is not one update today that I like. Ethmi 21:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Ethmi