RuneScape:Requests for adminship

Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which the users of the RuneScape Wiki decide who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops), who are users with access to additional technical features that aid in maintenance. A user either submits his or her own request for adminship (a self-nomination) or is nominated by another user.

About RfA
The community grants administrator status to trusted users, so nominees should have been on the RuneScape Wiki long enough for people to determine whether they are trustworthy.


 * Nomination standards
 * There are no official prerequisites for adminship, other than having an account and having a basic level of trust from other editors and if they can be trusted with administrator tools.


 * Decision process
 * Any user may nominate another user with an account. Self-nominations are permitted. However, if you haven't done much on the wiki, don't expect much support if you self-nominate yourself. The numbers of people supporting, opposing, or expressing another opinion on a candidacy are the main factor in determining whether or not the user will become an admin. Requests will be held for two weeks before a final decision is made. Once this time is up, a bureaucrat will decide whether to make the user an admin or not. In most cases, bureaucrats may only be recommended by other bureaucrats. Because it is good to have a stable amount of active bureaucrats, nominations will be made when one bureaucrat becomes much less active on the wiki.


 * Expressing opinions
 * Any user with an account is welcome to comment in the Support, Oppose and Neutral sections. The candidate may respond to the comments of others. Try to explain your opinion by including a short explanation of your reasoning.

Nominating
Nominations must be accepted by the user in question. If you wish to nominate a user, make sure you let the user know on their talk page.

What can admins do?
See RuneScape:Administrators

What can I do to help?
To improve your chances of becoming an admin, you should should do some or all of the following as a normal user:


 * Watch Special:Recentchanges and help to revert vandalism even before you're an admin
 * Just because you don't have the [rollback ] feature doesn't mean you can't change vandalized pages back to what they were before. Any "new" pages that you can't delete yourself, just put the speedy deletion template at the top of the page. An admin will see this in Category:Speedy deletion candidates and delete it. This is the primary reason why this wiki needs admins - fighting vandalism and acting as a volunteer to keep this wiki clean, readable, and accurate.


 * Create good content
 * Attempting rewrites of large articles will greatly help your chances of being recommended/accepted, as this is more noticeable in some ways than lots of minor edits to lots of small articles. Where the wiki wins over other sites is our ability to get information out fast simply because everyone has editorial control, even unlogged users. Help write the brand new updates - if someone else is writing the quest guide, make your own notes but start creating the sub-page articles ready to be blue-linked already.


 * Be part of the community
 * Welcome new editors on their talk page and guide them in the right direction. Talk to other editors, engage in the forums and generally show your face around.


 * All decisions should be democratic
 * Regardless of who is suggesting something, whether they be a normal user, an admin, or a bureaucrat, all votes should be counted equal. If you are in the minority on an issue over a certain article, be prepared to back down. Be mature about it. See Runescape:All editors are equal.

Blankothe3rd
Current Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 3
 * Neutral - 0


 * Takes a deep breath" I'm going to (gasp) nominate myself. As selfish as I am I feel bad more myself, If I be an admin, I'd keep this wiki clean of spammers, vandals, and personal attackers. *Takes another deep breath*, I bet i'll get alot of opposes but, what the hay? I just want to see if people think I'm good enough to be an admin. *Takes 1 last deep breath*, forgive due to me nominating myself. How selfish I am. =| --Blankothe3rd 07:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose I really don't know you that well which probally means you have a very small presence in the community. I'm not very familiar with your edits either. Don't worry I don't judge people for nominating themselves. --Whiplash 13:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Soft Short Oppose maybe early =/ Syugecin talkcontribs


 * Oppose. Too early. 13:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Endasil
Current Votes
 * Support - 5
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 1

Hi all. I hate nominating myself, but I wanted to make it known that I'd like to have admin rights. I have only been here for a few months, but if you look at my contributions you can see I've already been acting like an admin, only without the shortcuts that an admin would have. Though my mainspace edits are only in the low hundreds, I think you can see that they are high quality and professional.

Before you object to my time on the Wiki or the number of edits I've made, keep in mind that the sysop position isn't a glorified editor position. Users should not be given sysop based on their time here or the number of their edits, but on their proven ability to carry out administrative tasks. That said, I'm open to whatever opinions you may have.

I may note that I'll be on vacation starting Friday, so I may just let responses build up until my return the following Sunday. Don't think I'm ignoring this thread.


 * You've been here a little over a month. I don't even know you lol. 01:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the response...though I don't know what to say other than "ok." As I tried to carefully say in my paragraph above, I'm not seeking this position because I'm chummy with all the other sysops, because I believe that's the type of environment we're trying to avoid, and I'm not seeking this position because I've been here a long time or make major contributions.  Major contributions should have no bearing on your ability to perform administrative duties.  You can continue making major contributions without administrative authority.  The point was, I am seeking admin because I already have been performing administrative duties, and would like to make that easier on myself to do.  Just take a look at my contributions and you can see what I do most on the Wiki.  Hi, I'm Endasil by the way :)

I see the "all editors are equal" policy thrown around quite a bit, and you're definitely better than the random person who wanders in off the internet and goes for an RfA. Going through your contributions, I like what I see. Nearly half (exactly if you round up the percentage) your edits are mainspace, and they are quality edits. Even if this is too soon, or if we've got enough admins for the time being, I think you'd make a good sysop. You've got my support. 04:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not yet - You are a good editor, but you've only been here for a month (or so). In a few months or a couple hundred edits I'll support. 04:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - Conditions apply - I'm not an advocate for self-nominations... at least you're being bold. :) However, it's been a short while since you've joined (I did, in fact, read the nomination), and you may not have the trust of others to become an administrator... also, unlike me, you actually know what you're talking about. =P I'll support, so long as you pinky promise to use good judgement. *Raises pinky* 05:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've not checked anything you've done but I'd just like to say, you certainly seem to have the right attitude towards sysop powers. I don't really have time to check what you've done at the moment, sorry - if you bug me in-game I might... JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  06:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all for your comments thus far. I respect all of your opinions, and while I've argued that edit count and length of time shouldn't be a factor in whether one becomes a sysop, I do understand that both are essential in becoming trusted by the community. I'd like to shortly share why I am seeking admin powers. I am for the most part seeking just the roll-back capability and the delete page capability, because I often end up reverting vandalism and marking pages for speedy deletions. So, I'm going to leave my nomination open for the next week. As I've said above, I'll be gone for the coming week. Feel free to post your support or criticisms while I'm gone, and again, please don't think I'm ignoring you. I just don't know how many internet cafes I'd be able to hit up while backpacking in Scotland :-).


 * Yes you seem to have the maturity and good intentions that mabey some of our past hopefulls mabey haven't, however you should be here just a bit longer before you get privalleges just to get to know you in the community. ^^ Best of luck. --Whiplash 22:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. I've watched a lot of your edits and I'm impressed with the contributions you've made here.  Keep up the good work.  02:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. You really know how to edit. 13:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Notice of Intent: Endasil will be sysoped on Thursday May 11th unless there is objection now. --Whiplash 15:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral I don't know what tto think write now. I may change my vote.. 16:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Syugecin

 * Support - 13
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral/Pending - 4

I nominate Syugecin because he helps me with my page and also has lots of knowledge about Runescape. It would be an honor to add him to the team. GO SYUGECIN!!!!!!!!!!
 * Hey! Thanks! Who is that above? They forgot to sign.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I want to support this user because he has helped me on RS a lot. :)Runescapehelperperson 16:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For everyone out there... I just read at the top that being nominated by a more well how to put this... active user gives you better chances. No offense to Quilw but he isn't well known so I don't think I have much of a chance. Sysops, delete this if necessary. But everyone! feel free to vote! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 22:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Forget it. Kill what I said. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I shouldn't have said that. My bad. I forgot the all users equal thing. Sorry everyone! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I am all for syugecin. He is kind, friendly, always ready to lend a

hand when you ask him to, and very knowlageable about

RuneScape. He is one of the few future admins who understand their

true duty. SYUGECIN ALL THE WAY!!! Codenametiger talk 01:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Neutral 18:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. 769 edits, but 446 of them are in forums (123), userpages (206), and user talk (117). How did you get 206 user page edits anyway? He has 256 mainspace edits, if anyone was wondering. A couple image, template, project pages.
 * Support Syugecin FTW. Plain and simple. A vote for Syugecin will save 1 puppy from being eaten by George Bush! 01:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :D [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks to that IP too? Are you a user? Because you aren't logged in. :P [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh ya, and to that IP Address, I'm not an admin yet :P That's why we're voting. so your statement is incorrect. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin <font color="NAVY">talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you show me one edit that you feel is a good example of the work you do on the wiki? It will influence my decision. --Wowbagger421 01:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SupportHmmm....He looks pretty worthy in being a admin. Support it is!}01:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I've seen some of Syugecin's work on the wiki and i think he is a perfect candidate for the job. Armyleader36 13:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. He is a nice person. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 46)  20:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

After discussion, my vote is now Neutral. 22:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Tentative Support. I would love to see you attempt a rewrite of a "large" article not just making small edits here and there.  You're fairly low combat, so help us out with some of the quests, the work you did on Death Plateau (quest) was good, we need more of that and some pics to go with it!  Right now my feeling is "I don't see any reason why not", I'm more than happy to change this to a total support if you can demonstrate that you're brave enough to attempt large articles - part of being a sysop is following the style guide etc, and being able to point other users in the right direction.  And giving them free-rein when they look like they're coming up with good stuff. --Eucarya Talk 22:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support, per Eucarya. 23:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. 23:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Look what I found, quite sad....

" ==VFA== COuld you vote for me in the votes for adminship? Vote something oppose or support. It doesn't matter just please put something.  <font color="NAVY">Syugecin   15:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)"


 * If you ask, thats a no. 02:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow Dread, that's pretty harsh. All he asks for is your opinion and you call that begging for votes?  Yikes, you run a tight ship.  So much for an open-communication community.

EDIT: Looki here. http://www.wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaRUNESCAPE.htm 230 edits or so in 60 days. I don't think we should admin people that have low amts. of edits and might go inactive, kinda like me. 02:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not enough edits I'm afraid. Chaoticar 03:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. You haven't been here for long. You haven't made many edits. I think that this wiki is getting too much people who don't understand anything. Total Rune and Cashman support like everyone because theyre nice persons. If more people like that come here then like every 2 days ago arrived noobs will get 10 pointless supports. If that happens, anybody can become a admin! (We should avoid that!) <- If that hurt you, sorry. 05:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)#

support A great person, and although he hasn't been with us all for long, I still think he deserves recgonition, great rune shop btw. ;-) 13:21 gmt 27th April

100% support Tesfan 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeeeeeeeeeep Whoops... I wanted to see how mad he got. *War chant* And I am Ryugecin I just don't know the pass. >=( Ryugecin(2) 03:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Um... I think that you are inpersonating my brother. He is Ryugecin. Maybe you should reconsider your name. And I don't think I suck or destroy the wiki. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 14:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support nice guy however hasn't made alot of edits. And be nice guys we don't want to start an argument. --Whiplash 13:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Support Just like we all should, he tries his hardest, and is very contructive!
 * I really haven't seen many major edits from him, and I think we have enough sysops as it is at the moment. 23:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see... But try Air running Wowbagger and Clv. That's my big rewrite . Also this is getting a bit long =/ <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * Have we reached a verdict? Because this is slowing down my computer... =/ <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs

Wowbagger421

 * Support-9
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-1

Wowbagger421 is seeking sysop powers. He has been a member since 8 June 2006, but has especially been active since March, amassing over 500 edits. Wowbagger has shown a great variety in his edits, ranging from user-relations to information in the namespace. He has built several articles dealing with prayer and has also worked in categories and typographic edits. Additionally, he has a good record, having never committed vandalism nor even butt heads with another user. 23:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support-It's true. He is extremely helpful at times and most pages he contributed helped me alot. I bet he will be a great so what awesome admin.23:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, but I say Neutral because he has only 500 edits you say? I don't quite think that's enough, but Wowbagger sure does has enough expierience with the wiki. 00:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 817, but who's counting ;) --Wowbagger421 00:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you always base on edits Chia? Read the third bullet under rules...edit count and admin ability do NOT go hand in hand.  Support.
 * Support im surprised he is not already. --Whiplash 00:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. 01:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, so more than 500 edits. That's better. :) But I shall not yet say support, but instead Answer Pending. 01:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Definately overdue. Good work! Chaoticar 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Total Support.  A great editor, mature, hard working, contributes good content.  --Eucarya Talk 23:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Answer has pended! New answer: Neutral, still 18:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have much of an impression of you yet, so, Neutral. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 46)  20:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. Lol, I have never talked to him/her or tracked his/her edits. My vote doesn't really count. 05:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Play with fire, you're gonna get burned Wowbagger. 19:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very mature. --Wowbagger421 19:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

SUPPORT! - I changed my mind. 20:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Support You have been here a long time, and proven yourself trustworthy. 12:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think before we should sysop you we should let the neutrals change their minds. --Whiplash 14:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'll ask them if their opinion of me has changed recently. --Wowbagger421 21:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support, for all reasons above. Oddlyoko 06:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC) Forgot to sign, oops!


 * Support. Changed my mind. Darn, you're a excellent organizer, just like me. ^^ I think we really need people like you. 05:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think we could sysop you on Monday the 14th. --Whiplash 18:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Dtm142

 * Support-7
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-0

I have written many of our quest guides including Recipe for Disaster, Regicide, Mourning's Ends Part 1 and 2. I was also the original creator of RuneScape:Userboxes and have created several of the most popular ones including Template:User member, the original versions of Template:User rare, Template:User guild, and Template:User free player. I was the user of the month for April 2007.

P.S. I know that I'm not supposed to nominate myself because of the new rules, but I have done so anyway as per RuneScape:All editors are equal, WP:IAR, and my comments on the talk page. Dtm142 23:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Dtm has written over 100 quest guides, most of which have probably been used by all of you at one time or another. His guides are detailed, accurate, and he devotes his time and efforts into them. Over 900 total edits, nearly 650 mainspace. He even won user of the month for April 2007 for his hard work! 23:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated yourself Chia. o_O 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Somewhat support I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides. However I haven't actually seen you do alot of reverting or reporting vandalism mabey I just haven't look hard enough but I don't think il let that get in the way. :) --Whiplash 13:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with whiplash when he says "I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides". And, i think that if your good enough to be a user of the month, your good enough to be an admin. Tesfan 15:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the nominating-yourself policy is bogus anyway, it's there to stop people who clearly won't get sysop from wasting space. DTM is clearly eligible for sysop.  Let's try actually looking at users, Chia, instead of basing our decisions on edit counts and silly rules.  If no one nominates a user like DTM, that's our fault as a community, not his fault as a user.
 * I agree with Endasil on that point I find that oh you cant become a sysop because you nominated yourself bullshit. The guideline should be changed. --Whiplash 18:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Good editor, made edits to several policy pages. Also Chia the self-nominating rule is currently being debated, so should be considered null (until a decision is made). Chaoticar 01:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Whiplash...you swore! An admin used strong language! The apocalype is here! Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! And Support. If he was a user of the month, he should definetely become a sysop. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  15:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Support. Good editor. Seems reasonably trustworthy. The only minor point is the self nomination, where it would only have taken a simple message to any of the wiki community to write a nomination. I would have written one. --Miw 12:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support and support again. I was thinking to nominate Dtm142 too, should have just asked. 14:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Asking someone to nominate you is essentially the same as nominating yourself in my opinion, so I decided to skip that step and just go for it. Who the nominator is doesn't matter to me.  Who the nominee is matters.  Thank you for the support to everyone who commented so far. Dtm142 22:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support: Personally, the "can't nominate yourself" thing is a bad idea for RfA. I like it for "featured editors" - cause it makes sense - but if you want admin powers, you ask and the community votes. Nominations should only add credibility, not be a requirement. Nonetheless, again, I support. Oddlyoko 23:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - great content creator! --Eucarya Talk 07:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

He isn't an admin? OMG. Support <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 11:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Gangsterls

 * Support - 3
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 1

Well...along the lines of self-nomination, I may as well try it out. I don't know exact numbers, but I think I'm over 1200 total contributions, with over 800 in the mainspace. And, of course, Support. 23:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated youself Chia. O_o 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Chia thats not a good reason you always have a reason to oppose almost every nomination. I Support Gangsterls because he has contacted me ingame several times to report vandalism so I think he's well suited for this job. --Whiplash 13:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you could make a few improvements as a user, including making sure of the correct spelling before correcting others' spelling, but this is not really related to sysop. I think you have the maturity to be a good sysop, just make sure you always evaluate a situation before making an action.

Yes, I nominated myself, but after my sysopification (that isn't a word is it?) someone (was it Whiplash? Vimes?) declared that users can't be sysoped when they nominate themselves. I'm only opposing because of that. If I read it wrong and can prove that it says something else, then I'll change my oppose to a pending. But still oppose. 17:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Lots of good edits. If you'd asked, I probably would have nominated you myself. --Wowbagger421 17:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nobody ever deemed you couldn't. --Whiplash 18:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. I don't know what to think of you. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  15:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Constant Editor <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs


 * Support. Omg, you're in the same class as me. 50 less edits than me. 5 days less here than me. And already I'm supporting you? (I mean that if he can be supported, can I be supported too?) 14:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Stinkowing
Current votes


 * Support - 2
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 1

I'm not sure if I'd make a good sysop...but I'm not letting that stop me from trying! I'm not as well known as Chia or Whiplash, but I'm still active (in fact, I'm planning for another Wiki-meetup soon...), and I've mainly gotten into editing my userpage and subpages, but I still make fairly decent edits to the mainspace. Though I got a bit ticked off at Total Rune's brother (for spamming about MoparScape) and the recent vandal from my school) I can still keep my cool. I will admit, though, that I am a bit nervous doing this...maybe it's because of the self-nominating thing that I'm so confused about.
 * Oppose No self nominating. 00:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you read the conversation on the RFA talk page, you would know what's going on with that. 00:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I did. They're talking about getting rid of that self-nominating rule (that's what I interprit anyway).I don't quite understand it, though. Besides, Chia did his this way too.
 * Oppose x2 I don't care how Chia did it. He cheated. You phail. 00:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A bit angry, are we?
 * God Dammit! 4 edit conflicts. Ok, I was saying... Not you stinkowing, I was talking to total rune. 00:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose x3 If at first you don't succeed, YOU PHAIL. =D 00:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Will you shut the hell up? Just because you didn't make it doesn't mean that you can intimidate other people and bother them. I suggest you calm down and sip some tea. If that doesn't help, just take a week or 2 away from the wiki. 00:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Who's saying I haven't made it? 00:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * *sigh* ... Whatever. 00:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * With an additude like that, Total, you DEFINITLEY won't make it. I mean no offence, but you are one heck of an angry mastodon.
 * You really think I give 2 sh*ts whether I make it or not? Hell no. 00:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

OMG. Isn't this a voting zone? Not an argue zone? Anyway Support <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * I'm not 'upposed ta eat da legos..... =( 00:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And that has to do with what, now? (BTW, even if you WERE supposed to eat the Legos, they'd tear up your stomach...
 * Okey-dokey then.... <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs and I eat legos too
 * Look! There's Syugecin! *waves* HI SYUGECIN! 00:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Woah, this is really delayed, but the no-self-nominating-rule-thing wasn't created until after I was sysoped. 02:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. You are well-known to me! :) And total rune...you are just asking to get a month's block off the wiki. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  16:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. No reason. ^^ 14:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Malestro
My Edit Count Yep I'm going to try again. I have been working hard to improve this wiki. Although my main edits are not over 500 I am constantly monitoring, chatting and participating for the wiki. I will soon reach over 500 edits, but going over 500 when you have nothing actually good to contribute would be bad, so I'll wait till something that needs my editing to come along. I'm EXTREMELY active. 14:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral-2
 * Supports-0
 * Against-2
 * Neutral, no reason. 14:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral, I have to side with Chia on this one. --Whiplash 15:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I did major revisions on Emote Article and Emote Enhancers article. I've done revisions on Royal Trouble, Fishing contest, and always monitoring. Please consider my activity since I joined.  I've worked hard for this...  But it's not my decision.  Atleast its not opposes.. :D15:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Soft Oppose It's true, you do a good job here, and I don't really care about the number of edits a person makes, but I'm a little against the self-nominating idea (yes I know it's allowed) for one big reason: who's to say you'll keep editing once you've made this position for yourself?  Many want the title of Administrator just for the sake of having the "title", so once you become an admin, what are you going to do?  And why do you want to become an Administrator?  Convince me that you "deserve" it or that you would do a good job, and give me a reason why you want it.  Who knows, you may change my vote.  16:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How dare you judge me like that. I want this title TO HELP.  I would never take advantage of it, and I know what being an admin is about...  I help run 3 sites!  I'm on runescape and wiki more then most of these people.  I can't believe you would say something like that!  I do all the work I can and it isn't  enough.  You think I'm just gonna say hey I'm an admin and hop offline? You didn't say that about others I bet.  Well listen up... I'd develop systems, I'd  BECOME MORE ACTIVE NOT LESS.  If you don't like me then be that way.  Because this doesn't sound like a fair vote to me!  I understood when Emos opposed me.  I'm not being rude either.  Here's my point: THAT WASN'T A VOTE THAT WAS CRITICISM!16:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I worked too hard for people to criticize me. Sorry for being harsh, but criticism was all it was.  this is why I deserve it.  I'm active on here AND THE GAME!  I am an admin on 3 other sites and I know how things are run.  I know all the rules, I participate in discussions, I vote in simple polls I read and update the news IF I need to.  I keep newbies updated.  If you look at everything I do and say I don't deserve it, I don't know how its possible to make 'the cut'.  :\17:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, until that I would have given you a Neutral, but that's a definite OPPOSE. I will never vote for anyone who can't take criticism.  Further, I won't vote for anyone who can't even read the post he's replying to.  Tirrian was looking for your motives, not judging you.  Take a seat, son, you have too much of a temper.
 * Support, some good work on recent updates, and shows some willingness to help revert/etc. --Eucarya Talk 19:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Sacre Fi
Rationale:

Why do we need another bureaucrat? Vimescarrot and Eucarya have both announced their intentions to take a step back from the Wiki. With the loss of activity from these two, we lost two of the most influential voices on the Wiki. You can toss around the "all editors are equal" policy around as much as you want, but that will not negate the fact that people listen to bureaucrats more than others. Why? Because bureaucrats have more experience and are clearly more trusted by the community as a whole.

I have noticed that as a community, we have been reduced to a group of bickering editors, with people turning a community-based project into an arena for personal attacks and unrelated banter. I believe another active bureaucrat, complementing Whiplash's recent promotion, will help bring some focus back to the Wiki.

Why Sacre Fi? Sacre Fi has gained respect within the community as evidenced by his recent promotion to sysop. People use adjectives like "helpful" and "guiding" when describing Sacre. Even more important, Sacre has proven himself able to keep his head in absolutely every situation. While most editors despise and try to ban those who vandalize, Sacre will presume innocence and actually invite those very people to join the community in a meaningful way. On top of all this, Sacre is very well-spoken and clear. I trust his judgment more than anyone else on the Wiki, and believe that he has every ability to perform the highest level duties.

If Sacre Fi accepts this nomination, I open the door for discussion.


 * Well, people keep forgetting my nomination as a vote, so formally I say support.

Current Votes
 * Support - 9
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral - 0

I accept! :) 03:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose - Three reasons:


 * 1) I've been here longer than Sacre, and I don't think I've been here long enough.
 * 2) Whip was just b'cratted, I think we should have some down time before 'cratting somone else.
 * 3) I think that we don't need any more b'crats.
 * 03:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to argue, but:
 * 1) Time doesn't exactly make the editor; it really depends on the trustworthiness and responsibility of the editor (neither are qualities I hold). =0
 * 2) Would it make any difference if a person was elected to bureaucrat a month after another instead of a week?
 * 3) Um... =\
 * 04:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No offense but after Whip's 'cratting I don't think we need another 'crat. Chaoticar 08:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. We only have one really active crat, and you're saying we have too many? Hmm. I've been gone too long to comment, but Sacre certainly seemed like an ideal candidate for cratship. (Note: I'm assuming Hyenaste is still barely semi-active and that Eucarya realy is stepping back.) JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  09:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I say Support until otherwise noted. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs


 * I really Support Sacre! Go! Go! Go! Go! 12:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Slightly sad support - I guess I will spend my days as a lowly admin. Sacre is great at convincing vandals to act nice, and he deserves this. 12:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support great intelligent user. --Whiplash 14:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Just be happy you are an admin, and Support. You are worthy of the power. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  22:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. If my being the first - or the second, not sure if X1101 or whatever the numbers where was one before me - b'crat makes any difference, I say Sacre deseves it. I see him (her?) talked about as a good person with good edits, which rules out your reason 1 for opposing - whatever else you might say, Sacre! - and I think we could use another b'crat. Considering Vimes and Eucarya are supposedly stepping back a bit - them being great editors, that will be a sore loss - we could use Sacre Fi. :) Oddlyoko 23:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to be stubborn (even though I am) but this supports my reason #3 even more. Oddlyoko came back so we have another crat. 23:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Chia, could you just this one time justify yourself? I mean, you object on these grounds but don't say why.  Why do we not need another bureaucrat?  I have fully justified my reasons for believing we need another bureaucrat, what is your justification?
 * We have 3.5 b'crats here. Oddlyoko, Whip, Hyenaste, and Eucarya (but I heard he's leaving so that's a 0.5). 3 people alone can handle sysoping people and every other b'crat thing. Everyone has their own opinion, and with frredom of speach I can say my opinion. We have like 25 editors here (not including forum only editors), so with 3 active b'crats that's 12% of this wiki being a b'crat. With Sacre being b'cratted, that'd make it 17%. It would go from about 1/10 to 1/5.
 * It's not that I don't like Sacre, he is a swell man and editor, but I just think we have enough b'crats. And with freedom of speach and vote I can say my opinion and vote accordingly to my opinion. 14:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not mistake my call for justification as an attack on your rights Chia. I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion.  On the contrary, I was trying to see if there was a reason behind that opinion, and you have given it.  Just because someone asks you to justify yourself does not mean they don't respect your opinion. Usually it's the opposite, they respect your opinion enough to try to make an effort to see your point of view.  So cut it out with this "I'm allowed to disagree cause it's my right" crap.  And I do appreciate that you have stated your reasons for that opinion, don't get me wrong.
 * Support I've been impressed with everything that Sacre Fi does, and although some think we have too many b'crats, why not have another?  What would it hurt?  Sacre Fi certainly qualifies in many ways, would do a good job, and so far I haven't heard a strong enough reason why he should NOT become a b'crat.  It wouldn't bother me one bit.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I just don't necessarily agree with some of those opinions.  16:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- I'm sorry, you're a great editor and all but Oddlyoko just returned and Whiplash was cratted over the weekend. Do we really need 7 crats, 6 of which are active? I think we have enough. 22:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Support - I recently sent my RFA on a crash collision into Opposed-ness....and I've made amends with everyone.....and ever since I swirlied my brother and came to the wiki, Sacre Fi was there....through thick and thin, he was there. Sacre, this Support is for you man, you're the bomb. 22:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I just realized that I can connect to Mega on what he said... 22:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Note:Bureaucrats are, according to the above rules, supposed to be nominated by Bureaucrats, not Admins or ordinary Users. Chaoticar 08:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that mean that we have to stop this? <:O 14:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No. --Whiplash 15:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice try. First, it says "in most cases", which really doesn't mean much, and second, two bureaucrats have already given their support so it really doesn't matter who initiated the nomination.
 * What do you mean 'nice try'? I was just pointing it out. Just because I point out a fact, doesn't mean I'm attempting to derail his Nomination or something. Chaoticar 04:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreeing with Endasil here, but without the "nice try". Oddlyoko talk 04:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, my "nice try" was directed to Chia, whose post I was responding to. It looked like he was going to try to take the easy way to a failed nomination.  The point was valid and I'm glad you brought it up.  While I'm responding, I've noticed that everyone who has opposed so far has only opposed on the grounds that there are too many 'crats already.  If this were not the case, and you agreed that we needed another bureaucrat, could you shed some light on your opinion of Sacre as the next 'crat?
 * With the surge in RFA I can assume taht some people just think this would go along the lines of an adminship request. However, a crat is a much more complicated thing. My vote still remains Oppose - All to respect. 20:59, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope this doesn't hurt Sacre's feelings (it's not supposed to), but I think some more experienced admins should become a b'crat for having more experience. 14:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Weak yet still Oppose-Like chia said, Whiplash has just became a beauracrat, and I trust strongly in whiplash. Creating more and more of these will just be a swarm of flies and not as important.  Vimescarrot has left, and all... But I believe Whiplash can handle it.  Sacrefi would be a great addition to the Beaurecrats, but NOT NOW.  Also to edit well you need to play well, and Sacrefi has a lack of activity on the game.  He would just be a voice, and not that much of an editor. 14:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I really hate to keep having to explain this to you guys. Being a bureaucrat has absolutely NOTHING to do with your ability to edit articles.  You have full control over article editing WITHOUT bureaucrat, so how come people coming back to that as a basis for arguing admin/cratship?  In my opinion, you could fulfill the duties of bureaucrat having never even played Runescape.