User talk:The Buzzfizzler

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Re: Forum Admin
What's a bureaucrat? Are they like the founders of this wiki or something? I notice that they are generals in R S Wikia. How come I never seen anyone become a bureaucrat? Zezzima 16:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey!
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu224/Frede173/99str.png

Thanks for comming to my 99 Strength party,i didn't expect that :o I'll send you the link to the Youtube video ASAP. 18:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaaand, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_zL3e5WvEM 19:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Need help fixing edits made by fruit smoothie
Another editor has split the member and nonmember methods along a similar line to how was proposed in our discussion. However they have removed all the methods that work in f2p from the p2p moneymaking guides. As most of the f2p methods aren't obsolete to members this is going to be annoying to members who want a method. Basically I want to make the p2p guides for f2p skills to include everything that was in the original skill guide. I'm sure this can be done easily using the history but I cant figure it, and was hoping you could give me a hand. --Serenity1137 16:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

hi it's me bryce216.227.49.87 21:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Delete discussions
Is no deleting discussions a new rule or something? Because I've deleted discussions (on my page!) in the past, and no one said anything. Vex 327 talk 22:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Vex 327
 * RS:DDD, it's been a policy for a long time... 22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Totally wrong!
I didn't remove any of the F2P guides AT ALL, I just merely added them to the P2P section as they were members-only, and since F2P and P2P guides should never mix, I decided to do it that way. Also, they SHOULD be split, because while f2p players can't necessarily perform p2p money making methods, that doesn't stop p2p players from looking at the f2p guides and using those methods too. What I did was make it easier (at least, that's what I think I did) for people who are of a certain status to look at the guide and say "oh look, it's members only, guess i can't use it), instead of merging it all into one big pile and mess.

PLEASE DON'T remove/back up my edits because I spent a lot of time and consideration into it, and even had some help (with some admins here and there, *wink*) to revise and edit the guides. So, if you are going to remove anything, let me know beforehand, and let the community know.

--Fruit.Smoothie 22:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Two admins helped me:dragon(forgot the rest of his name, was full of #'s) and Muzzy34. Anyways, I did in fact post on the forum discussion concerning the metric, and you will find what I think of the whole idea there.

Thanks
...for the hand in dealing with fruit smoothie, ATM I'm putting the f2p methods in the p2p section by hand, just because its easier than trawling my way through his edits. --Serenity1137 09:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I became dual mod in May 2007, and you must have wrote my name wrong. Joshhy 13:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Joshhy

HEYYYY GAZ!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
I need help, your sig is super awsome pwnage....yea...you get the idea. ^_^ Can you help me make mine better? Like having that border and the little link for the talk page in it? Thanks alot ^_^ Purest One14 15:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:HEYYYY GAZ!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
Well, all I have is this so far. Purest One14 But if you could help by adding a purple border with a red background, that would help ^_^. oh and also, could you add that little "talk" link too. ^_^ thanks a bunch! ooo, and i almost forgot...how do you have that little "table of contents" at the beginning of your page? 18:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

You pwn :)
ty soo much, the sig is sick :P 18:23, 19 May 2009 (ET)

Gaz..sorry for bothering you again...but on your page you have your skills listed...how did you save it in that form? 19:36, 19 May 2009 (ET)

Thanks for the hand with smoothie again
Twas much appreciated, also nice use of them as a third person uni gender singular. --Serenity1137 22:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Not at all, I get questions there often enough that I'm used to it. Kinda used to the name now though so don't really wanna change it. I'm male for future reference. --Serenity1137 22:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Table in sand box
Just wondering what you imagine the application of the table could be... Serenity1137 08:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Coolio, was just checking if you wanted it to be somehow implemented into the money making guide tables

re:your sig
yes i can...could i atleast resize it? 21:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

noticed something in your clue log
This is totally ROFL! I think your clue reward with the guthix full helm was EXACTLY the same reward I once got XD!!!

Just thought that was funny ;)

14:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

A Signature
I've made a change to Template:Signatures/MeleeOwner because it violates some of the Signature rules. But then the owner reverted it and get's angry at me. Could you teach him the rules? o.o 20:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Equations and stuff
I'm looking into trying to find a way of making the stars auto update, but don't have enough knowledge of how these equations work. Can you point me towards some help pages, I couldn't find any. Thanks --Serenity1137 17:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I've had a hack at it using the tools I have, I've posted it on the money making metric. It is a little bit too crude for my liking though, I'll go through the pages you sent me. Thanks --Serenity1137 21:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The switch function is great but there is one bit I can't figure. How do we get it to differentiate between -ve numbers and +ve numbers?, I currently have:


 * but if the earning is 0 or less that comes out the same as 500,000 or more...


 * The thing is it would be a lot more convenient if we don't have the potential (AAAA) more than once, just for sanity's sake. If we don't mind having the potential repeatedly then it isn't a problem --Serenity1137 22:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Seems fine, though I'd have -ve numbers as a separate thing to low numbers, maybe the stars red or summat. A separate template would be great, along the lines of giving  **   124000  --Serenity1137 19:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * At some point it would be great if you could fill me in on how these templates work. I'm a thinking that if they can let you do this effectiveness thing, we may be able to create some kind of skill calcs... --Serenity1137 07:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Since asking for your help I've managed to find my way to the templates page on that wiki with all the detailed guides. I think it might be possible to do a skill calc that works in the following way: You type in your current xp and your target level into what would acutally be a search bar in disguise. It then takes you to /wiki/Calc/crafting/23410-lvl65. You can make a template which takes parts of the title and incorperates them into calculations, but we can do one better, not only could we do what every other calc on the web does, but we could create a database of methods (of xp earning and money making), cost, requirements, excetra excetra so for our calc you could even enter in all your levels, all your quests/achievements, and how much cash you currently have, and ask it how to make money, or how best to get crafting up. I think that the programming language we have here is versatile enough that I think it can be done.


 * I'm not sure if it would be high maintenance (like maybe updating a database every time a new method for anything is come up with) or if we could teach it to just take the methods from tables on the appropriate pages. In any case, I'm sure we can create skill calcs the like of those on tip.it or such. This is a wayyy big project however, so for the mean time (till my exams are over) I'll probably just continue very slowly implementing the money making metric. --Serenity1137 16:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC) p.s. what do you think of all this? vain hope or viable plan?

P.s. no problem about the lateness --Serenity1137 17:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A closer look has made me less confident in any of this, though I'm still hopeful that there is some way, --Serenity1137 00:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Done!
Im done with what i want it to look like. If you need it larger, let me know please.--Strongppl745 04:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sig.PNG

HELP
!!! My signature is going funny!

It keeps doing this:

&#123;&#123;SUBST:Nosubst&#124;Signatures/Saradomin bunny}}

Instead of Signatures/Saradomin bunny

Please can you help?

Signatures/Saradomin bunny 08:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

RSWNP
In the site notice, could you put:


 * The rules for the RSWP is now up. You can view it on the signup page. Follow the rules!
 * Please contribute to the June's (that needs to be linked to june issue) edition of the RSWP.

Or something similar 01:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you
Could you please put in a guest book next to talk on my signature? It would be grateful. I tried myself and I messed it (I have undo the changes) Thanks. --  Mo 55 55  talk  18:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks but theres one problem. Sometimes when I sign only talk appears. Not any guestbook? Like above is any example to the one here^ and the one i used now has the guestbook. Could you sort this out or is it something you need to wait to become active. Thanks. -- [[File:Skull.PNG]] Mo 55 55  Talk  Guestbook [[File:Saradomin sword.PNG]] 19:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. Many thanks Gaz. You've done it again =D. -- 09:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

SORRY TO BOTHER U BUT CAOULD U MAKE A SIG FOR ME? I WANT A D CHAIN ON THE LEFT THEN PIRATEMAN353 IN ORANGE PRINT THEN A SGS?

Image Placement
Hey Gaz, I've seen you move some of the PvP armours/weapons pictures I uploaded into the centre of the article. Whenever I upload an image/gif, they never seem to be in the right spot. Could you tell me how you place the images in the right spot? Thanks. Atirs 07:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

z0mg
Thanks. ^^ 19:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

HELP WITH SIG?
For the pirateman353 sig could it be in a black box with dark red boarder? THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!

HELP!!
can i have a link to my talk page on this?

quick ? 4 u
if i post somthing on someones talk page and they respond, will it show i have a message??

THANKS A BUNCH also i didnt erase spence751's guest book my account got hacked and i just got it back...

RE:Temporarily quitting
No no im not temporarily quitting because if that. It was 3 in the morning when i put that up and i put the wrong thing up. I have to temporarily quit because of some IRL issues. Sorry r confusion :S 16:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:Effectiveness
Hi Gaz

Do you know how to remove the star(s) in the Effectiveness template? Ex:

12:12, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Armour Table
Its coming along nicely now :) I'll do the platelegs part tonight and try finish off a few bits tomorrow. 21:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Quick update for the legs - Instead of having the name why don't we have the type kind like this ?

Dragon (Leg) (Skirt)

Dragon (Leg) (Skirt)

It should be much easier to read, but what do you think ? 21:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, another question :P For the berserker and spikeshields, they each have different stats for charged and uncharged ? Would I make a seperate one for charged and uncharged ? 18:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Question on kicking
Hi, something happened in cc today that i thought was bad policy and I was asked to take it to yg if i wanted to carry it on, but i thought i'd see your opinion first (you are my goto admin.

A user (Fred199810) was singing through the cc, he was warned to stop and so he did. He said duh a couple of times in conversation and was asked to stop but not in an official way, just asked 'stop saying duh' about 20 minutes he said duh again not randomly, but when someone said something he thought was obvious. He was then kicked. Vimes refused to own up to kicking him for about 30 minutes, and even then his attitude toward it was who cares. I feel essentially that he kicked Fred because Fred kind of annoyed him. Vimes said things like: 'he(Fred) was a nobody'; when asked what rule fred broke he said 'I dont do rules'. He eventually said that it was for rudeness, but fred wasnt really rude, no more rude than most players in the chat.

Is this worth going anywhere with?

--Serenity1137 21:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * btw fred added vimes and asked who kicked him (fred) and vimes said he would 'ask the clan' but did no such thing

UOTM
I've nominated you for User of the Month. Hope it works out. =D -- 15:53, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Template.
Hi gaz, I just saw you made a template of the 99 countdown and I was wondering if you could make me one with:

"This user" (name of the person) is training for 99 "Woodcutting" completely.


 * "" = link, example.

Hope it isnt much =P Also it may be used by other player in their userpages.

-- 11:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Well.... as im not inthe countdown to 99 im not using that template but I like the woodcutting one wondering if you could make it insted of the "countdown to 99" a link to here: count till 99

Hope you can make it, if it is too much work dont worry I will understand.

-- 22:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank You for Your Help
Thank you for telling me what was wrong. Actually, I'd rather keep the old one because I would have to find the prices. Thanks again.

00:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Tradeable
Hey :P I'm gonna make a bot account for those 4500 changes. Are you able to rank that a bot or is that done by admins? 17:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, so should I make a description on what the bot will do, how it runs, what it does.. etc in the current discussion of tradeable on the yew grove? 17:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Double
Hehe, I didn't even realise you had already posted on that I.P s talk. heheh. 22:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just reverted my edits and changed it back to your version =P. 22:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Block and protect
Could you block the vandals on Dragon claws and protect the page please? 19:28, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit
Sorry for the bad edit because the person before that edited it spelled it wrong then they left it a t reasonall so I changed it to reasonal but I didn't know that was a word, so sorry. Ocenar 21:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

.....
I saw and  on recent changes a lot and if I use them it's wrong. And in cases that I warn some1, other would report that to the CVU and some admins would even block. Why do I get picked on now while every1 can see my edits, but never said anything about it on my talk? I assumed that I was doing good. 19:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hiscores lite again
Yeah, I know this was an old subject, but I found that a more efficient way is to put a bookmark in the bookmarks bar (Star in the URL box in Firefox, + button in Safari, etc.). That way you don't even have to first go to RuneScape Wikia! Just a thought though. Killr Talk  01:07, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Template:Effectiveness
Lol, I need to know every aspect of what I'm making, both money and XP-wise. I'm a very number-oriented person. The use of that template came naturally to me O_O. 01:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I was trying to figure out profit per pouch, as I usually take a break after 1-2 pouches. 23:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Won't be happy RC anymore with this update. You can't drink potions/eat/change armor while running anymore. -.- 20:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Never mind that, it was fixed! I'm using about 1/10 the energy potions as before. This is the single greatest update ever. I feel a nerf coming on... 21:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: RFF
Ok, I answered the questions. Malcolm33 22:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hai dere
While I have the chance to be on the computer, would you mind filling me in on what I've missed on RS/the wiki since last weekend? I've been at camp and won't get home until Friday. 18:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ^^ 18:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Welcome back
Sure, you're totally right ! I met my friend who plays RS today and I tried to log in... WHOA ! But the new hitpoints bar disappointed me, it looks weird 'cause of the smooth corners

Anyway, thx for the welcoming

15:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * WOW, actually I am interested but I don't know much about the Template sys and how it works so I would really appreciate your help. Thanks, I will learn a new way how to do better editing !


 * 21:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Gaz Lloyd, I REALLY appreciate your help and I don't know how to Thank you enough for the terrible work you did for me. REALLY REALLY REALLY THANKS !!!!!!! I will owe you this forever.

But still, can you tell me, if I wanted to update it weekly is it okay just to rename the heading in the table ? Or will there be any problems with the code on the Stats page ? I think there shouldn't be any, but I'm not sure.

Again, THANK YOU A LOT for it, REALLY !

With many thanks, 17:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Concerning editor review
In the "what editor review is" section, you talked about people reviewing regular users, admins, and crats equally. I was thinking of removing it because, to be honest, nobody's going to be review equally, because we're all different editors with different contributions. What do you think? Butterman62 (talk) 21:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Addicted
Well, I'm a cheap leave. I'm too addicted to the wiki and can't motivate myself to leave long enough. I tried but it's not going to work, the community here is too good, lol. I won't be as active as I once was, but when ever I can come is better than not coming. 01:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Problem
Gaz Lloyd, I know it may be annoying, but I found a problem in my Experience table... The Hiscore rank, it shows opposite values (+ instead of -), so PLEASE could we change that the difference between ParseHiscore codes bigger than 1 would write minus and smaller than 1 would write plus. The colors are also a problem... so when the difference between the codes is bigger than 1, it would write the text in red and the same thing with the difference smaller than 1... You could set it on pages User:DrugedSheep/Stats/Hiscores and User:DrugedSheep/Stats/Hiscores/Colors

I wouldn't mind that I will have to copy the lite Hiscores twice. Thank you very much.

20:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I found a problem, BUT I got rid of it : ) In the Overall row you forgot to put {{formatnum: before the {{ParseHiscoreData so the numbers were moved 4 cells left... And in the Fishing row you forgot to close the command (putting a }} at the end) but I repaired it.


 * Anyway, thanks for a lot of help.


 * 06:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Lvl 3 skils3
I IS BACK!!! 05:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Template Based Help
I'm making a page on runecrafting training, and there are a couple of templates I'd like to make, as there is a ridiculous amount equations on the page. The template I'd like would take:   and output the cost/profit of crafting one essence/pure essence at that level either with or without the lumbridge achievment diary ring. Is there, that you know of, a version of the switch function that you can put further switch functions in?  i.e. if mind, check is level more than 14? Also can I just create this template by creating a page with the necessary code under /wiki/template:CostCraft ?

Thanks, --Serenity1137 13:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * p.s. on the effectiveness template page, the page on view is nothing like what you see when you click edit this page, how is that done? --Serenity1137 14:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think I figured it, *throws smoke bomb at ground* I was never here  --Serenity1137 14:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

WAZAMY! I've finished all the code, though I haven't made the template pages presentable yet (I'll do that tommorrow as I must go revise for FP4). The templates are , and  each one using the one to the left. --Serenity1137 16:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've finally gotten around to polishing them off (adding the explorers ring bit and descriptions), what do you think?--Serenity1137 09:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

How often must a template be used to be allowed? Because it occurs to me I could cut down on the actual code present by creating yet another template, but it would only be present in my tables as it would be too specific for anything else. --Serenity1137 06:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox stuff
I'm trying to get my Pet infobox to work, but I need help. In the test/warning table, I want it to show a warning when the setting is yes, and to show a other text when the setting is no. If you can help me with that, then I can finish it up later. 15:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never worked with those codes, and I can't exactly decide where to put that template lol. Ok so what I want is... that the warning appears when you put |warning = yes and that there comes a text saying This pet does not need food to stay with you when you put warning = no. 17:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! =) 22:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help with my sig :P

-- 07:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude i just read through your user page and enjoyed reading it, you seem like a cool guy :)

Add me in game if you like, my runescape name is Holymiky :P

13:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, forgive me!
I accidently fogot to login because I changed broswers to Chrome, and are so use to having been logged in normally. Thanks for the message though! :3

Hey
Hey gaz, hows things? Just want to know which of these signatures are better?
 * A = http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/Jeboyzdragz/cookie.png] Mo 55 55  Talk  Guestbook [[File:Dragon claws.png]]
 * B = (current one)

Thanks

Something's gone wrong.....
Hi Gaz. I need to tell you that the article "Topsy" has gone weird. I made an edit of the image then the infobox covered nearly the whole article! If you can see what's wrong, and you need my image to have transperancy, or anything that modifies my image, notify me on my talk page. Thanks.--Strongppl745 19:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Nvm, it was my image--Strongppl745 19:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Woodcutting eucalyptus
Since yesterday I've constantly been woodcutting eucalyptus trees, and getting about 48k xp/hour (I actually timed an hour and got the xp). I have 80 woodcutting and I use a dragon hatchet. Is the xp rate much higher for you? Also, good luck with 99 there, I might go for it as well. It's a very easy and effortless 48k xp and 105k cash per hour. 04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Me sig.
ok, please delete old page then.-- 14:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

My signature
Its at 30px, its been like that for ages. Thanks for warning me 'bout it before, I could've got in trouble =p Here is the current size of it, just check to see if its OK. Might nominate you for UOTM yet, I saw that armour table and its pretty impressive. GL with getting it onto the mainspace. Thanks again for the signature thing, I'm not changing it anymore unless I become a sysop. (Tbh not very likely, but...) See you,

You sig
How is it constantly changing? is it run by a bot or something? --Serenity1137 07:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Editor Review
Mind if you place it on the site notice? the reviews are coming in slowly, so a bigger audience would be better=)-- 11:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Cooking calculator ...
It's ... AWESOME :O :O :O But i here's some more questions for you ...

1) Where did you learn that stuff?

2)   ... That's what you get when you search 'Gaz Lloyd' on Youtube... Are you in one of them? :P

23:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Quality check
When you can find the time could you give one to http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Free-to-play_Runecrafting_training/Air_altar I've finished the first draft but need to know whether its good enough to remove the under construction sign, thanks --Serenity1137 17:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've tried to fix those points, first section is now officially no longer under construction --Serenity1137 22:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

"A warning should do"
Hi Gaz! I placed a report on the CVU, and you said: A warning should do. As I'm quite new to the whole "anti-vandalism" stuff, I don't know if what I did was okay. I saw that adding false information to an article should be reported. Was it okay that I reported it to the CVU? . 15:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Review
Thanks for the review. I appreciate it. 13:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

High score templaty thing
after failing for the third time to get it to work, i figured it was time to ask for a hand. Could you either explain it or just put it on my user page when you have a spare couple of mins? --Serenity1137 15:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

FYI
Fixed about a week ago. =| 11:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You got owned. =p 02:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You win again=/-- 13:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Laughing so hard irl. You are in mah funny edits now!=D On screen keyboard phails!-- 14:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Faces
Hi Gaz! How are the faces going? Could you please tell what hats you did already? Thanx again! . 14:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The format is perfect! But indeed, the skin doesn't suit If you retake them, please check my Faces page, as I uploaded a few more, so you don't make duplicates ;) Thanx! . 15:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

liek rawr n stuff??
Don't forget to separate everything with a semicolon if you use style for signatures, including the last one. For example:

Hai2u

You weren't adding a semicolon after the last one. While this isn't a terribly big deal it's better to be safe than sorry. 21:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * One other thing.. don't forget to add to the end of all signatures.  21:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :P 22:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Signing without any hyphens
I did some researching and I found that making a signature button sign without hyphens is really easy. All you need to do is create this page:

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gaz_Lloyd/monaco.js

with this code:

if (mwCustomEditButtons) { mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = { "imageFile": "http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/images/button_sig.png", "speedTip": "Your signature (no other formatting)", "tagOpen": "", "tagClose": "", "sampleText": ""}; }

then do a hard refresh by following the directions on top of the page you just created and the next time you edit an article, the new buttton will appear and make your signature with no hypens. 03:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:
Ordinary I'd agree its easier just to type it in manually,but as you may remember I only recently got a signature, so I'm still automatically pressing the button to sign, before I even think about it really. The button... it has powers over me... 15:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC) NOT AGAIN!