Talk:The Bird and the Beast

Rewards
So... what will Jagex have learnt from the first world event, regarding the rewards? The options I see reasonable: And for some reason I doubt they'll mention this anywhere (explicitly)... I'll append options if I think of any more, but for some reason I fear it'll be either the first or the second option. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 18:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing: two versions of all rewards (armour, emotes, titles), which can all be received/bought if you are mad enough.
 * Perhaps they'll add an option to buy both sets of rewards [at another price, or not], without actually having to change sides.
 * While not made impossible, 'balancing' the cost & rate at which points are earned/capped such that it is practically impossible to get both sets of rewards.
 * The rewards are those of the God you are currently aligned with (aka, switch sides and the unlocked emote/title/armour automatically changes; similar to changing gender and the frog prince(ss) outfits).
 * The rewards can be swapped at will (like the (un)hallowed robes; would only work for armour, though, so perhaps both title/emote variants are unlocked when buying them).
 * Or you receive both variants of the armour when buying it as well; though this seems unlikely.
 * Result? They have not learnt anything... https://twitter.com/moltare/status/409054563996807168 . Same as last time, switching is possible (with the same penalty), further implying you have to switch to buy everything. And apparently they balanced the event with players spending 1-2 hours a day on the event on average (https://twitter.com/moltare/status/409055918949928960). IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:37, December 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Whoever wrote this doesn't understand the point of the World Event. It's a WAR between two OPPOSSING sides. You get rewards for fighting for the side YOU PERSONALLY SUPPORT, you're not supposed to get both sets of rewards, you're supposed to choose the side you support in the War.KadotheChameleos (talk) 10:08, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe consider that not everyone is like you. For some of us, an impuls to be a completionist is stronger than the impuls to join the lore and choose a side (especially so considering a single person's influence is negligible compared to the direction of the community as a whole). And the problem with the rewards is that all of them are always listed. The whole issue wouldn't exist if both versions of the emote/title/armour wouldn't get two separate spaces/entries in the emotes/title list or POH armour case (e.g. (un)hallowed robes are an example of a good solution, even if World event rewards wouldn't be morphable at will). IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 10:22, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can agree with that idea, at least. It makes sense for your items to change if you switch sides, but remember that ultimately, completionism may not be possible with the God Wars and choosing sides. Completionism isn't meant to be the point of the new game, and yes it's disappointing, but I've seen people getting very angry at Jagex about this, and it seems rather ridiculous when completionism isn't even the point of the game right now. At the moment, it's all about the war, and each side will likely carry unique rewards that you can't get if you choose another side. That's how it's supposed to be, and some people are getting very aggressive about this. KadotheChameleos (talk) 10:26, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * To be honest, your first response has been more aggressive than me making a point of this... There is a slight difference, though: either completionism is not intended (as you could argue in this case), or it simply is not possible. In the latter case, people like me will have to deal with it (and during BoL that would have been a dilemma as I consider the Zamorak Warpriest armour to look better than the Saradomin variant, but much prefer the Saradomin emotes); in the former case (as is the case now), if there is a way, people who are passionate enough will go for it. From World event 1 to World event 2, Jagex has not chosen either side (make getting everything impossible VS make getting everything a normal option, without destroying the lore aspect); this is my current annoyance. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 10:48, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, my aggression in my first post was rather unnecessary, but to be honest given how many people I've seen complaining about this, I didn't expect you to be so civil about it. Whenever I see people who care more about completionism than lore, I usually expect them to act in the way that most of them do, like starving wolverines who are being unrelentingly teased by a man with a cut of beef and a fishing rod. I apologise for expecting worse of you, and I completely see your point, I just think Jagex's decision makes sense in this regard and shouldn't really be held against them as harshly as many people do. KadotheChameleos (talk) 11:21, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Building Golem or repairing structures
Building Golems, or repairing the boundaries..

I do not want to take part in the combat, but I would like to take part in the construction/repairs..

For the life of me, I cannot find any information on where or how to do this.

It is so frustrating.

I would like to see more on this part of the The Bird and The Beast.

So I can participate without the need for combat 178.239.208.52 14:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)MollyTercero178.239.208.52 14:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

178.239.208.52 14:24, December 11, 2013 (UTC)Molly Tercero 178.239.208.52 14:24, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Is disrupting useful
I can't seem to find anywhere in the news article what the point of the disruptor rod is, does it give renown? 15:32, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably just makes the opponent temporarily stop collecting, thus hampering their cause. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 16:05, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Sacred metal fragments and Weapon parts
When aiding in the destruction of a convoy, I received the message "The fleeing Armadylean convoy drops some sacred metal fragments." along with 62 Sacred metal fragments. Earlier I got a similar message (but didn't make a note of it) for a weapon override part. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:40, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Another message: "To reward your sabotage of the Armadylean faction's building, Bandos gives you some sacred metal fragments." (for 27 sacred metal fragments, and again for 34 fragments). IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 20:15, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * "You find some sacred metal fragments." (18 of them), after killing a Godless ambusher. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 20:24, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * "You receive some sacred metal fragments, as a reward for helping to fill the Bandos convoy." (for 77 sacred metal fragments). This was AFTER my convoy was destroyed! So you just have to participate, not succeed. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:42, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * "You receive an orkish claw component, as a reward for helping to fill the Bandosian convoy." The convoy failed again. Yes, "Bandosian" this time instead of "Bandos". IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:24, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

How do I get div xp?
Mamabear47 (talk) 23:30, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * By following your own convoy around, and siphoning nodes that appear to fill the energy meter of your convoy. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:41, December 12, 2013 (UTC)