Talk:Dragon claw

special
If they have a special, the what is it and is it worth it. also, what are stats. -- 17:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nobody has got the claws yet, so the special attack is unknown. Zapnox 
 * The quest was released a few hours ago, so I don't think we'll have that sorta info until tomorrow at the earliest. WWTDD? 17:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The Dragon Plate Body has the stats posted. so that's not a great excuse.-- 21:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

do you have to do the quest to wield them??? 216.73.159.162 22:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. SilverStrike

No. u dont Ippy97 16:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

better cancel my GE offer lol and get 20 more QP and do this beast 216.73.159.162 22:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

How can you have so much info without having somebody complete the quest? --Vercool E=MC2Def Newb For Life! 23:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * simple: some one has, it isn't so long that it will take days. Don't forget that in the US this is Thanksgiving week (may people had today free of things they HAD to do.-- 23:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, I reside in the US and had a partial school day today, but still, if someone has done it, then someone has ragon claws and that someone should provide us with that valuble information.

--Vercool E=MC2Def Newb For Life! 23:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I said someone has to have done it and the claws are not provided in quest or by quest. see the article on that for more info on it. If you think they should tell you, find the player who put in the picture on the quest guide if they have a pair or to get one and to help in this page.-- 23:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC) (ps: please do tour own indents)

i've yet to see anything about a quest requirement other than the death plateau quest ( which is required to wear any set of claws), can anybody confirm this? JU®n¥mAñ01 00:14, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * death platou is only a req to make claws not to weild*** -- [[Image:Wooly hat.PNG]] Rune ldr 88 [[Image:Coins detail.png|27px]] 00:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It could possibly be a drop from a monster such as a cockroach soldier since i know they drop a few other dragon items Twigs the legendary slayer 00:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)twigs the legendary slayer


 * about the spec... i don't think that this section is right...

"The special attack of Dragon Claws functions in a way such that the damage from the second hit is half of that of the first hit, and that the third and fourth hits will deal total damage equal to the first hit minus second hit, effectively causing the claws to deal damage equal to twice that of the first hit. (For example: 36-18-9-9, 23-12-6-5; note that the damage from the last three hits add up to that of the first hit.)"

cause ive seen it do a 36, 18, 18, 10 which doesn't work with that logic. i dunno.. maybe they changed it since i saw it.

Garming Sam 22:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

^^^^ You are right, that section just doesn't make sense. (My friend hit 0-15-6-9, the first hit was 0 so how can the second hit be 15? Can't divide 0 im afraid. --Vynergy 03:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I cite: http://www.truthscape.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3036&p=68779

It seems to explain 0-15-6-9 since 6+9 = 15.

This is not quite a sufficient explanation, considering that hits supposedly at the same power are not always the same. I suggest the following alternative: When you perform the special attack, Runescape creates a total damage value for the attack (which appears to have a maximum of roughly twice a normal attack). Each of the first three hits is half the value of the pool, but deals 0 damage if it misses. The damage dealt is then removed from the pool and the next hit is then calculated. The final hit is simply the remaining value of the pool (or 0 if it misses).

However, misses appear to be extremely rare (although most of my information comes from tests to determine the max hit), and I have never seen the special miss except consecutively at the beginning. Gerbeezooe 08:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Another note to know. The special only works for those that have completed the quest While Guthix Sleeps. I was at dueling arena and was watching a guy use them and he let a friend barrow them. The friend could not do the special.  Hammer2092 15:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

umm...
isnt it true that rune throwing axes also have a special, so the point of it saying claws are unique for have rune and drag having specs, that is a false statement

true you should change it if it says that. -- Rune ldr 88  03:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually..It said that both rune and dragon claws have a special.Rune throwing axe has a special attack, but there is no dragon throwing axe.Powers38 03:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Omg whoever added that edit about sheeps, a nooby punsh special and 0 attack put in a worthless edit. NOne of that is right. seriously peoples. Twigs the legendary slayer 13:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)Twigs the legendary slayer


 * Ever heard of vandals, one of them put that "info" there.-- 15:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

is it true that these claws do double damage to the kbd???
 * nope. 17:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

overpowered
Does anyone else think that the spec is overpowered? "They have a special attack, Slice and Dice, which hits four times with added accuracy and a 10% damage bonus." That's 4 red splats off the bat with increased attack + strength (not to mention it's +57 slash and +56 strength bonus). Also, it takes up no more than 50% of your spec bar o_O

Btw, got this from tip it.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8336/081127140837tp5.png

--TheWeirdOne876 21:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree... its totally ridiculous... its an unfair advantage and being able to do it more than once is just crazy. Should Jagex undo it though?

Garming Sam 05:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If you actually think about it,It is almost the exact same as Dragon dagger.2 attacks with increased strength and accuracy for 25% of the bar.If you use it all at once,you do 8 hits.Powers38 05:17, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

No they shouldnt undo it because range d bow has just become to powerful now. Mellers need a chance against 1 hit dbowers


 * Also, you lose alot of defensive bonus's since they are two handed, this is basically a double edged sword, and i predict them costing about 500k-600k once the rarety of them goes down makeing this still not as good as a dds. -- [[Image:Wooly hat.PNG]] Rune ldr 88 [[Image:Coins detail.png|27px]] 06:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * People already buy Dharok's, furies, bandos for a high max.
 * As I do PK quite often, 4 hits in quick succession is insanely appealing to me, and pretty much every melee pker out there. If the set of claws dips to 500k-600k, you'll still find it everywhere in PvP worlds, sort of like the whip or g maul.   05:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Street Price
As the claws are impossible to buy on the ge, should i mention the current w2 street price of 10m?


 * I'm not sure. New items like the Dagon'hai robes are almost impossible to buy on the G.E, because a lot of people desperately want 'em and they're desperate enough to try to circumvent the trade limit. WWTDD? 15:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How is it possible to pay 10m anyways?Powers38 08:56, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Just wondering... exactly how do they try to buy them for 10M? You know with the trade limit and all... Do they use Bounty Hunter or something?


 * [[Image:D_plate.png]] Garming Sam [[Image:Dharok's_greataxe.png]] 06:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

They use junk trading, they add junk that is unsellable.

I still don't get why people add junk to their trades. They're still wasting money, even though the junk is untradeable. 18:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Junk trading isnt about items that is unsellable, or tryin gto beat the treade limit. It's not a waste of money either. It's people who are rich enough to buy the item, but have more than enough money than the ge cost, and really really want it. Players wont sell that item on the ge because it's too rare/hard to get, and the ge price just isnt worth it. Take something like third age melee for example. A player that is seriously considering buying it, not saving up for it, will probably have 100mil+. It is very hard and time consuming to get full third age melee from treasure trails, even if you only do treasure trails for fun, not items. Nobody would sell third age melee at the Ge (note:people may well sell it, im just using it as an example), and the player really really wants it. He's willing to pay 20mil over the net value, and would be able too, if it werent for the price restrction update. the only way he's going to get third age melee is if he buys with junk on teh forums. This way both people win: The seller gets the price that he's actually willing to sell for, not one Jagex decides, as well as getting rid of things he has lots of, or no longer needs. For the Buyer: He gets Third Age melee right now, not in weeks-months-years time when someone sells on the Ge. Also, he may be able to use the other persons junk, such as perhaps high alching them, rather than having to buy/gather other items to high alch

Dragon Claws
Mr.Bando 18:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Dragon claws are a good weapon for a pvp world or a pvp situation and the fact that they give you a deff bonus and and great special attack is a good thing but, the claws are only going to continue in price because to get them you need to complete a quest that requires you to complete all the others. Because of this the dragon claws will only continue to increase in value. People that did the quest know to wait for the price to increase until they make a large profit off of selling the item that is in very high demand. I would'nt be surprised if the dragon claws reached 1million gp dagon'hai robes and black elite armour will do the same thing and it might not but people are keeping the items on purpose. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT DRAGON ARMOUR!

Actually, that's not true. Take the the Ruined dragon armour pieces for instance. You can only get them if you complete While Guthix Sleeps, but they're actually DECREASING in price. Same with the Dragon platebody. 18:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)