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Did I assume good faith?

In this article, a user, whose name I won't mention out of anonymity, added an "equation" to determine if you would be losing or earning money with a method. It was interesting, but I thought it was overly complex, confusing, flawed, and did not add up, with several useless variables, so I removed it.

The equation is at the bottom of the page in the link I provided, can someone confirm the validity of the equation, perhaps someone who's better at math than I am? Thanks, Fruit.Smoothie 02:54, April 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well its fairly overcomplicated. Using some logarithm rules we can simplify it:
 * Resultant total cash = investment*e^(ln(sell price/buy price)*number of times)
 * = investment*e^(ln((sell/buy)^times))
 * = investment*(sell/buy)^times
 * Further analysing:
 * sell/buy is the factor you'll earn (if >1) or lose (if <1) money for doing the action
 * raising this to the number of times you do it is finding the overall multiplier to your investment
 * multiplying investment and the factor finds your resultant cash
 * Using his example: you have 5000 coins to invest in a skill. The raw material(s) costs 500 coins and the completed product(s) cost 1000 coins. You do 5 rounds of buying and selling (you buy all the raw material you can with your investment, process it all, and then sell all your product and use all the money earned to buy all the raw material you can, and so on):
 * Resultant = 5000*(1000/500)^5
 * = 5000*2^5
 * = 5000*32
 * = 160,000 coins, hence 155,000 coins profit
 * Obviously its not often you find something that its finishing product is worth twice its raw materials, and if there is doing it 5 times would take far to long to be worth the bother, usually.
 * Its a nice model in any case, even if it breaks for production skills (division by 0).
 * tl;dr - the maths is fine.
 * 14:43, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok so do you think I should add it back to the MMG main page or should I keep it as removed? Fruit.Smoothie 03:55, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can't "1" be used as the minimum for "buy" instead of "0", which obviously would break the calculation? Then for production skills the money made (not "resultant total cash", just "sell/buy") would be the sell price, which makes sense. 21:02, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * The way to do that is (pseudo code) if (raw=0) "Cash return " + cash + "coins" else "ROI" + percent_return + " percent.  Rich Farmbrough, 19:18 14  April 2010 (GMT).

Unprotect Category:Administrators. Protection does no use, since it does not protect against inclusion. Also, add this to it: Special:ListAdmins. 01:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)