User talk:AnselaJonla/Archive8

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RS:DDD?
What exactly is the limit of RS:DDD? I'm specifically referencing to this case, where the user made 3 edits in the course of 5 minutes, and then simply aggregated the three separate messages into a single message. No discussion was lost, or even reworded; only excess signatures removed and the text merged into a single paragraph. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 18:10, November 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * It happens often enough that a user puts a message on a talk page, and returns a few minutes later to add a few more sentences (to the already existing paragraph); regularly without even changing their original signature to match the last date stamp. I have never seen those reverted (nor do I see a reason to). In any case, I just wanted to state my mind; it just seemed a little revert-happy. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 18:22, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Second
Surprise me. -- 18:47, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Kingdoms
Hahahah!

Much better Italay90 (talk) 19:30, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was hoping both of you would also take a look at this :3  19:32, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

On a related matter, would this be of any use? 21:25, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not suggesting that we use that table, gosh no, but is the information briefly summarised within useful? 21:29, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * This person's name shall, unfortunately, remain a mystery to me forever. The table could be used as quick source for writing minigraphs (which is totally a word now), not actual article material. 21:33, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Blocked
Hi Ansela. I've blocked you for a week for user treatment policy violations. For the most part I'm talking about your interactions with Italay90 over the last couple weeks, although the recent fracas with Mol didn't help. Your comments on Italay's talk page (and about him in chat) as well as your edits interacting with his have generally been vindictive and unreasonable, with this being particularly egregious. While he's clearly not been blameless in this whole situation, you've been targeting him the same way you've targeted so many other editors in the past.

We've talked about this before, but you need to assume good faith in other users. Assume they are taking time out of their day to help our wiki, and assume that in absence of evidence to the contrary, any mistakes they've made are accidental. You can't feel personally victimized by a user whose edit isn't up to standards, and then disrespect them both to their face and behind their back. Assume good faith in others, and they will do the same for you.

Honestly, this is reaching the end of the line. If you're unable to interact with other good-faith contributors without extending them some modicum of respect, then it won't matter how great your other contributions are -- you won't be welcome here. Please take this to heart and make every effort to improve your conduct with users you are in conflict with, or avoid communicating with them at all. If there is something I or anyone else can do to assist you with this, please let me know...but the time for excuses is over.

As always, you're free to appeal the block and someone else will look at it if you think I'm being unfair. 05:04, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Cuteness
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaWTmdjIYAAPzlL.jpg

16:37, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

For Fswe1
After gaining a foothold in the Sanguinesti Region, Lord Lowerniel Drakan continues to expand his empire to the north and west, strengthening his grip over those regions. Soon he gains control of almost the entirety of the former Hallowland, small parts of what was once Forinthry, as well as parts of the north-eastern Kharidian Desert. Over several centuries, however, the vampyric influence in these latter two locations diminishes, if not being completely lost.

17:06, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thor 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25249576 Power went out just before 7 due to the surge storm. At one point the wind nearly flung me across the street when I was headed to the bus stop. If it hadn't been for hunger forcing me to go to the next town over once the storm had passed after midday, I wouldn't have left the house at all 02:40, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Words
Sorry, google was being silly :_;. It was showing results for Antonym and I didn't notice. Apologies! 18:03, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Coincidence?
They also had an old warrior in both Doctor Who and Merlin played by the same actor, and a grouchy leader who was killed by a threat both characters underestimated 01:11, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Wow...
Wouldn't surprise me. After all, Cesare and Lucretia Borgia were lovers, same as Jaime and Cersei 20:45, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Using Jagex's images is bad
You reverted one of my edits with this summary. Why? It's the only image we have of it atm and not having it is just detracting from the quality of the page. If you manage to find a better image, feel free to upload it.

Peloreus (talk) 02:18, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Warpriest armour stand images
Reason:  unnecessary; we didn't keep images of Sara/Zammy on the stand, so why would we keep Bandos/Arma?

Actually, we did: both used here: Battle of Lumbridge/Rewards

Besides, we won't get a pic of an actual player wearing the sets till all reward tiers unlock, and it'd be nice to have an image on the corresponding pages in the meantime.

12:44, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Answering your question
Thanks. 12:18, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sacrifice
Did you even check the source I provided twice before reverting/changing this again? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:14, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have so far never seen in-article references being used for trivia describing current glitches. As such, I saw no need to include it there. And my comment was as blunt as the comments you leave people when they do something you think they should've given more thought. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:25, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

RE:New parameters
I planned on entering multiple requirements as "# Skill, # Skill" (ex: "50 Attack, 50 Defence"). And if I'm being haphazard, it's because I'm going down the "What links here" page.
 * Thanks, the help is appreciated.

Mistaken assumption and accusation
The thing about firelining magic logs wasn't vandalism nor a mistake. Please research your facts before you accuse me of vandalism/making mistakes.

Firelining logs takes 4 ticks per log, where as bonfiring them takes 6 ticks. You run 2 squares per tick, and you probably end up about 30 squares from a bank with firelining. So thereore is takes 127 ticks to burn a full inventory of logs by firelining, and takes 168 ticks to burn a full inventory by putting them into a bonfire. Magic logs give 303.8 exp when firelined, and 309.5 exp per log when added to the bonfire. Therefore you get 8506.4 exp per inventory fireling, and 8666 exp per inventory when adding to a bonfire. Dividing by the time it takes, you average about 66.98 exp per tick firelining and about 51.58 exp per tick adding magic logs to a bonfire. Using the given rate for the jadinko training method, you get 50 exp per tick. However, this is very much an approximation, and it assumes that one is not using an inferno adze. Even for one without an inferno adze, the aproximation is slow. So it isn't exactly clear which is faster.

However, if we assume that one uses an inferno adze, exp jumps to around 360k+ an hour, which gives us 60+ exp per tick, which is significantly better than bonfiring magic logs.

In the future, please research your facts before you accuse me of making a mistake of vandalism.

(WoHenRe (talk) 21:06, December 18, 2013 (UTC))

Ya, the suggestion of vandalism did kinda offend me. And i probably also should have been a bit nicer in how i phrased my response.

(WoHenRe (talk) 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC))

RE: Heads up (Cosmetic override license)
k, thx! 13:23, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * sorry, got confused... since images like these were also in that category. assumed it used that license. 15:07, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Armadyl colours
I agree completely with you. Similar to Zaros (different methods, no empire) and Saradomin (different look) also changing slighly for this age. Armadyl has both: more orange-y phoenix look, and fight the ones that only want war, etc. Maybe... we should use a switch template for that similar to Saradomin's version? 11:06, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that makes sense. Then again, all Armadylian content minus the world event is silver/blue so we should list both, I suppose. I am not sure why Armadyl chose the phoenix, since that's a Guthixian bird, but whatever. :P 16:59, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not a Guthixian bird (you're confusing him with Brian Twitcher, a Guthixian priest, who build the altar to Guthix (without the option to pray...). The Phoenix says nothing about Guthix)... and Armadyl chose he because a Phoenix rises from the ashes, being reborn and powerful again. After Armadyl though his aviansie died he was kinda down. Now he has renewed spirit and power. I thought it was self-evident. 18:09, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Random
http://i.imgur.com/0G1F3.gif

Dogfoger (talk) 12:58, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

Event
I wrote about 2013 Christmas event / Wizard Banquet, but this informations was deleted.

It is possible gain even 10 points for 1 serving appropriate food to wizard. The point is:

1) always have in inventory at least 1 of "nice" food (turkey drumstick, yule log, christmast pudding, muled vine and roasted potatos); if you see that there is only one of e.i. yule log in your inventory you go to the big table and take some portions of yule logs.

2) dont make regular circle-start of right side of the table with wizard in the middle (2,3) then serve the wizard 1 and then the wizard 4; after finish right side of the table go to left side and start of these in the middle (6,7) then serve to wizard 5 and then serve food to wizard 8. Then go to big table, take some food to make your inventory full of every good food and start serving to wizards 2,3,1,4 then wizard 6,7,5,8. Regular circles (serving food to wizard 1, then 2, then 3,4,5,6,7,and 8) gives 1 or max 5 pont for serving and if you go to big table to take more food you start from 1 point again.

It is true-check this information in game please. I made 2000 points in this way, very quick. I hope it is not a bug but feature.

''It was hard work for me to find a place where I can leave message for You. Sorry for my english, I hope you will understand my description. Merry Christmas!''

Best regards

89.78.81.100 00:18, December 28, 2013 (UTC)Airye

Re: Image pages
Noted, will do so in the future. Thanks for the message. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 15:08, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Your signature
I have done that about two years ago. What's the matter with it?  Rankata28 19:14, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, strange it seems to have happened in my reply above as well. I'll take a look at it. http://oi43.tinypic.com/111tlzc.jpg  http://oi41.tinypic.com/33jjss0.jpg     http://oi44.tinypic.com/r76ihu.jpg    12:50, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Test: 1,2,3 12:54, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, it seems to work now, although my sig appears to be a bit broken.. :p 12:55, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Question
Whoops, sorry. I'll change it now. 08:53, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Kayle's Chargebow
Sorry. Got your message just a second too late. I did edit again, and I'm sure you'll undo it momentarily. I'm new to the wiki, at least in the editing sense. I believe all images for The Blood Pact weaponry are outdated though and are due for an update.

Hope I did this message sending thing properly.

Re:Creating new talk pages
Yes, I will be sure to remember that, and add it. 11:42, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Damage
Oh, wow.. seemd you're right! Sorry to have wrongfully accused you :-/

Really strange how to site makes you use visual editor for the whole page when only you want to work on section in source mode... I don't insist, but since it keep pushing me into it... I just try to adapt :P Doesn't really work well all the time. 10:09, January 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Now it went fine! ... but now it also pushes me into source mode... strange.. I don't get it... 10:09, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I can understand :P
 * Btw... ty, that will save me a lot of annoyances! :3 Btw, what about that layout thingy, I've heard some people talking about that too... Oasis & MonoBook 11:35, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Useful site
Ah but you forget, my dear, that I can get from Aberdeen to Edinburgh for a mere 50p (and that's just the booking fee), thus saving me £48 over that site. Same applies to anywhere in Scotland, so long as it stays in Scotland. But I'll be sure to keep it in mind 10:23, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: VE
Have you reported either of those as bugs?


 * Ok, I'll send them along. Do you have any other ve error diffs to hand?

Re:Question
I do. 21:20, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it'd have to be tomorrow after school, so if you could do it before that'd be great. For all we know I might end up just like Caradoc Dearborn tonight... Do we even need those references though? 21:32, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Mines and Mining Sites
If this is the wrong place to get your feedback, please let me know where we can have a discussion about this. I'm not sure what the Heroe's Guild has to do with the Mining training dungeon. The one I am referring to is in the northwest - west of the crafting stations. The map is very different from the one in the Heroe's guild. There is a page for the Burthorpe Mine with the appropriate images. If I search for Taverley Mine, it redirects to a page called Burthorpe Mine. I know I was confused trying to figure this out at first.

I'm also unclear how to insert a link - maybe even linking the title "Taverley Dungeon" to the Burthorpe Mine page would help. I was surprised the mine name was not link to a page for more information.Kjdem (talk) 23:21, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Your Undoing
I managed to check both you and Coelacanth0794 for what real purpose any of you had in deleting the uploaded image and undoing my simple revision. So far it's only claimed as a "duplicate" while it technically really isn't. The versions and details seen in said images are too different to be actual duplicates. I already stated in the description a simple reason to at least have an available map to look at. Said details in both articles for Boot and Thordur for even an idea of where either of them are or once were in the dwarven mines is unclear in such a mysteriously inconsistent way. Providing a map for the clueless is the least you can do, or provide a highly accurate word by word guide to where he is, or a simple reminder "Check Map for location". Why did you undo it? On top of that, why just undo it without any details as to why or even actually add something to the article clarifying his actual location? Let me show you some excerpts from both articles trying to clarify where either of them are in the mines:

As for Boot's location

"Boot inhabits the area which used to be where Thordur sold the Disk of Returning for the former Black Hole Experience."

As for Thordur's location

"..looked after the entrance to the Black Hole Experience in the Dwarven Mines near the current location of Boot the Dwarf"

Does that in your honest opinion actually help anyone who wasn't around for the black hole experience find where any of them are?

Barbapopo (talk) 14:54, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Response
Hey Ansela,

I found the old editor on top of the page after I saw the mess in the review mode of the new editor, but thanks for mentioning :)

Juppie WH (talk) 15:06, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nomad
Hang on, I know what the source is now. Trying to find it. 18:02, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Aaaaand it's gone. Sorry. 18:36, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sorry
All archived, I'll fix them up with the templates sometime soon. Btw, it's relatively simple to archive things:. Fill out the top 2 boxes and submit it

RS:UTP block.

 * In continuation of 

I have been given a list composed by several other S:C users, including administrators, which has a summary of dates and times in the chat logs. All these incidents combined (some of which just on their own would be reason enough to warrant at least a chat ban) would have resulted in a block long ago if it'd been anyone but you. You have honestly been lucky for us to have been extremely tolerant of your behaviour.

To cite Cook from your previous block, "If you're unable to interact with other good-faith contributors without extending them some modicum of respect, then it won't matter how great your other contributions are -- you won't be welcome here.". I do not see any improvement when comparing your current behaviour to what it was before your previous block, going by that list of incidents. It's been over 2.5 months since your previous block, and you've not shown any real change in behaviour; most concerning here: you're still violating RS:UTP regularly. This is not acceptable.

After your block expires, I recommend you'd try taking some steps to make sure this kind of things doesn't happen again. Perhaps if you feel you're getting frustrated, take a break. This kind of behaviour just cannot go on like this. It's not acceptable to insult others like this, be it in their face or not.

I've decided to block you for one month, based on both your behaviour in the past 2.5 months, and your previous blocks. If you wish to appeal this block, or reduce the duration, you can leave a message below. I sincerely hope that after this block you'll be able to come back and not be as rude to others as you've been in the past. 23:33, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Leave the chat ban in place for the month, or longer if you want (I'd say forever, but I might need to pick someone's brain at some point), I don't really think it's the place for me to be any more. It's obviously not working for me to be in there; it's no good for own mental issues or, obviously, for the people I'm inflicting them on.


 * Right now I just want to contribute. Add to articles, revert vandalism, make a load of redirects regarding the new slayer helms, upload images. And yes, add to my personal logs and pages that I use to track my own in game progress.


 * If your issue is with how I interact with people in chat, well, I just gave a solution. Interaction with other human beings is overrated anyway. 17:29, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * I've changed it to a chat ban for a month. Lets see how your interactions with community members off of chat goes, and I hope it is improving. 18:32, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Murknose dialogue
Thanks! 04:07, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Completionist Cape Requirements
If you check the museum, where the cape is located, you will clearly see that there is no storyline requirement for the regular Completionist cape. Thus there is no need for the storyline requirements on the cape requirements section.

168.28.136.17 14:15, January 23, 2014 (UTC)Delby

Re: Items
They are from SoF, check the JAG Wiki. 18:10, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: New Pages
The serpentine items were announced on the front page of RuneScape's website (link to newspost ). All of the information on these weapons can be found here on the official wiki. Sorry I didn't add much to these pages at first! I'm still new to the wiki stuff and I was trying to figure out how to set up the page to show the different stats of the weapons for its different forms/tiers, similar to the lightning staff. Smartnass (talk) 18:29, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Updates for Serpentine weapons
Hey Ansela, I noticed you updated the Serpentine rapier so I wanted to ask that, with the information I provided (directly from the Jagex update on the RuneScape site), please update the other Serpentine weapons if you haven't already? I included the picture, reference, and important details for the weapon and it's specific tiers, so it should pretty much be all set for you. I just figured since you're already looking at them, you might like to do the rest. I'll append this message with the link to the official article. Thanks and have an awesome day!


 * Link to article: http://services.runescape.com/m=news/squeal-of-fortune--serpentine-super-rares


 * Ordubis Santa_hat.png(RS Name: Alarius) 20:10, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Verbatim quotes from Jagex sources
Since you left me a message, I decided to take the time to reply and teach you a few things; no need to thank me.

I wasn't just copy-pasting it, I actually rewrote everything with the exception of the exact times as it was easier to do while still in-game. The only reason it was the way it was, is that it lacked information greatly and I expected someone to tidy it up. So instead of complaing, consider the fact that I was just more prepared than you anticipated. It's a shame too, I was about to congratulate you on a fine rewording of the information. I wanted to but didn't have the time, so again, I expected someone with more experience would do it down the road.

On another note, I find it funny that you're specifically the one always giving me problems. Like when I had gotten the Superior outfit pictures on during the morning after the first special seasonal hiscore; you thought it was unpriviledged information when it was. Not that it matters, as people actually did use unpriviledged information for the second world event's rewards page.

I would appreciate it if next time, you payed more attention before accusing me, as this is the second time in a row that you falsely accused me of something and I had to correct you.

But I digress, you still did a good job rewording the material for me, so for that I am thankful. Just try to limit your corrections to actual problems, not false assumptions. Thanks. Ordubis (RS Name: Alarius) 21:18, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing
Oh, but I'm fully supporting the idea of sourcing, I try to add references whenever possible. That's why I've mentioned the source after all, though not the exact link. I was just trying to be consistent with the rest of the article. Since no quest in "unreleased quests" box has any type of reference indicating the source of the information, I haven't added one either. Guess I could have thought about that earlier and put it instead of the comment I made. On the other hand if all information is supposed to be sourced, this should be applied to the rest of the quests as well - I haven't noticed anyone else giving the exact source, only some mentions like "Someone said it on reddit/podcast" etc. So there should be some consistent policy, like requirement for references for every quest in the box, explaining where it came from. Different wikis have different policies, so I usually try to stick to the style of the article/other edits, hence the lack of exact source.--Mariobaryla (talk) 17:03, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Combat levels
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/a=97/c=bomRIXpR1sk/sl=0/forums.ws?360,361,657,65276670,goto,1 20:03, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Greenfingers
the other greenfingers aura got their own pages, why can't the legendary variant get one? Extreme133 (talk) 18:08, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2 years later, I see that you guys haven't quite finalized the decision to totally merged all the auras yet, but meh... Extreme133 (talk) 18:54, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Skype
Do you still use Skype? If so, could you sign in please? I've left you a couple of imgur messages too 18:22, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Template:Infobox aura
Added the tier 4/5 examine fields to the template, even though at first I wasn't quite sure whether to add more or delete them all. I mean, I checked all of the transclusions and found exactly zero uses of the optional examine fields. 19:50, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Congratz on 99 Divination!
Congratz on 99 Divination!!! http://i.imgur.com/o7JMvln.png

Enjoy a wisp-flavored caek! -- 19:00, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

North of Kuradal's
Soul's Bane cutscene. 05:28, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

re:File:72511357.gif
That gif was an outdated pre-eoc gif of some guy ranging with a c-bow with sap/leech curses on. 00:20, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Gold ore rocks
That would be most efficient. I haven't figured out how to disable it and my mailbox is being spammed :/ everystat13 (talk|contribs) 17:46, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that helped a lot :D now to unfollow all the pages I'm following, but I think I can manage that :3 everystat13 (talk|contribs|Make me a sig? : 17:51, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Deletion
I left the .gif on the userpage because I wasn't sure how to replace it. Is it okay to just delete that part of the userpage?

11:49, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Reply to BTS February 2014 message
Ah well. I was hoping Celestial meant more heavenly than spacey; and it could go for 'prismatic', even if that wasn't part of the original options :P. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:36, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Forest
I'm aware of that forest, it's been there since the Wilderness's first graphical update way back. Those are celtic crosses, not Zarosian symbols. It's closest to the ruins at the black salamander hunting area, so I'd imagine they're connected. 10:22, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * As Wahi remarked, those are the Zarosian symbol with the inner cross rotated 45 degrees (π/4 if you prefer), so not actually Zarosian. Even so, it may still be Zarosian because the entire area used to be, and iconisations of the Zarosian crest are not uncommon (floor of the Senntisten temple, for instance). Id dictum, it's not one of the seven known cities/fortresses, so it was most likely added to look cool. And the forest is indeed a favourite of mine! 16:07, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Regarding...
I went per information stated here. It says those lamps are currently available to be won, as such they are now gotten from Treasure Hunter and no longer from SoF. When people look at the disambig page, the current information is more relevant than the old information. The articles themselves can state that once upon a time it was also/only available from the SoF. Please revert your revert. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:16, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * ... If you take a proper look at that page, and for example open the Fishing section, you will see it includes, amongst others, "Huge XP lamp (Fishing)". We treat those as exactly the same item, so I can hardly split them up. And yes, I should probably have edited the text regarding the skill-specific ones, and simply removed any mention of them being old rewards; but just that is not a reason to do a full revert with a reason "no...". IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:26, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re
Way ahead of you. Well, not "way ahead". But ya, I am. Ben already asked. 19:47, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Dragonbane bolt
Why do you keep undoing my work on the Dragonbane bolts page? The info is outdated and i just made it more clearer

Dark-Xiomax (talk) 23:00, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring warning
Hi Ansela, I was asked to look into your edits today to Dragonbane ore and Experience lamp (disambiguation). I know that you know what RS:3RR says, and would like to remind you to keep that in mind when undoing other users' edits.

I would suggest that the next time you go to undo another user's undo, stop and go to said user's talk page clearly and calmly state your reasons. Be nice to them when you talk to them; civil discourse and debate is the best means to resolve a conflict. I personally think messages like this are a bit condescending, so I think you can be better in your discussions about the issue. Again, don't revert, go talk instead. It doesn't matter if your version isn't the live version on the wiki; what's important is that you can calmly discuss an issue with another user. Asking a third party (a more or less neutral one) for another opinion is greatly recommended so that you guys can discuss the best resolution. Edit warring to the point where the page requires protection is not the solution.

I see that it happened twice today in the past six hours, and I hope that it doesn't happen again. Best, 00:28, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I understand, I just wanted to remind you to be more careful. Cheers, 03:22, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Reminder
I said what it was a duplicate of in S:C, where sysops can be found. 03:38, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

RE:File
Ah yea, forgot about the update. Am merging 08:23, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Sof > TH
I already did all the stars. 22:00, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Was just giving a heads up. I'm really busy right now, but if Cook hasn't gotten to it, I'll fire up close-mid central unrounded vowel to fix the stuff later. 22:03, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Pages for unreleased things
Thanks for helping me out, I'm new to the wiki.

There are 2 new emotes that are to be released during the 2014 Valentine's day event, "Loved Up" and "Down to Earth".

If you look at my contributations you'll see just how confused I am here. "Down to Earth" is also the name of a music track, so a redirect or disambiguation page is needed.

As for how I obtained the icons, they are the unlit versions of the emotes. They have already been put in-game but are not usable yet. If you could help me organise the pages for the 2 new emotes, that'd be great. Thanks.

Strelitz (talk) 02:26, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Comp cape reqs
I figured the point of the page was to list what the cape requires, and filter out any smaller tasks that are subsumed by others; I guess that was wrong. And thanks for the note about my archive box... but I'm simply using the existing template. Nothing fancy, and I can't figure out what would've broken it. I haven't changed it recently, nor has the template been edited as of late. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Some compliments...
You are evil! XP Qualcuno ti ha massa- cioè messaggiato (talk) 09:45, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

AnselaJonla is the evil in person. --Yepp98 (talk) 11:27, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Ahahah! :D I to romp ;).You no Evil. :D You Good! ;) Qualcuno ti ha massa- cioè messaggiato (talk) 15:32, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

I have been banned o.o --Yepp98 (talk) 15:36, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Question
Just throw it into an archive so the evidence is about if ever needed. 14:37, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Boop

 * 3 -- 17:23, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Abyssal demons
What was the problem?

Q: Is the drop rate of the Abyssal Wand/Orb more common than, as common as or rarer than the whip? Mod Timbo: The drop rate of the Abyssal Wand and Orb is much rarer than that of the Abyssal Whip, however, I won’t be saying exactly how rare! On a related note, the Abyssal Whip was made rarer with this update too going from the previously announced 1/512 to now being 1/1024. Dsctatom (talk) 19:34, February 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * If you're going to be condescending, at least be correct. Taking your quote "("more rare" is not in any way correct English; "much rarer" or just "rarer" would be better)" and focusing on "not in any way correct English.": your statement suggests that it is invalid, but not only invalid, but utterly so; meaning that it does not work within the English language at all. Unfortunately for you, both are considered acceptable and even if "rarer" happens to be the preferred usage for a specific case: it does not invalidate "more rare." I realize you have nothing better to do than lash out at people on wikia, so I won't hold it against you. Also, while you were busy being flustered about my edit, you failed to question how someone had already put 1/1024 for the whip or why I changed all of them to "Very Rare." The very citation you demand from me is on the Abyssal demon page already. If I haven't given you enough of a hint as to where it is, let me know and I can assist you. Dsctatom (talk) 00:53, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reddit thingy
Regarding http://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1xse61/well_thats_a_bit_of_a_problem/, I blame your brother.  19:58  anyone here in Ansela's clan? 19:58  I remember Ansela talking about her clan, but I don't think I eve rlearned its name :P 19:59  I don't care what it's name is, I want to know if anyone in that clan is here 20:01  because I want to tell them not to expect her on any time soon because I've blocked the site and the port on the router so she can learn a normal sleep pattern because I'm sick of not being able to listen to music above a whisper at 7PM because she's asleep so she can be up at some god forsaken time of the morning so she can go buttfuck with those sad tossers. (This was on the tenth, but whatever.) 12:11, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Duplicate
Hm, okay I misunderstood the image. Needs to be renamed though. 17:48, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do we need the image anyway Ansela? It's just the back of an estate agent. We have this which was under untrimmed const cape, an older version. 17:49, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

RE:ROTM transcript
Don't blame me, I didn't write most of it! Also, y u no sign properly. 16:32, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Update post
k. thanks! working on it. 13:51, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Enjoy
Done-- 20:10, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about that. I'll take note of this so it doesn't happen again. --Jlun2 (talk) 15:30, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

RE
It was a perfectly valid usage. Stop trying to over-complicate it. It violated policy, I had no need for a summary. 18:11, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism
MMk, so you're that person who reverts all vandalism half a second fter its posted, right? Well, "Satan" redirects to Santa disambiguation page... --

Seren & FOTG
It's in BTS 87, as I have said, Seren's concept art was made for the purple rose which is the fate of the gods.

I did provide it on the page if you cared to look! Seren's concept art shown in the BTS 87 (only in BTS87) is made for the project: "purple rose".

Italay90 (talk) 17:08, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, I was editing it but someone changed the page (without really adding anything, AT ALL. I checked) while I was editing. I tried to put my edit on but it was super glitched. Important thing is, it's alright now. Thanks, really, but it's fixed now.

Warlock eyal (talk) 17:44, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Redirect
In response to your userpage, why cant people redirect ponis to me? :c -- 17:50, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * AAAAH WHY IS THIS CROSSED OUT -- 17:52, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, i see. Anywho, you're pretty good at trans, i think; Think you could help me out? I'm pretty sure I've eternally annoyed Spine. -- 17:59, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Zaros
FORMER! I MEANT FORMER! ;_;. 14:02, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd argue "None" would still be better in the event that turns out to be true, as it's shorter. 14:10, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Unique" would suffice too. 14:19, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Thingy
Noted. Also, 74 divination! :) 19:08, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, do go marinade a cat. 19:22, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's ugly, but that isn't your fault. 18:30, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Question
Sorry, I am still a noob when it comes to editing. Sorry if I am causing trouble. I am not sure what redlinks are, or manual f+r, so if you could teach me I am more than willing to learn.

This is what I do.

I go to http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search and type in a word I commonly see misspelled. For example Canafis instead of Canifis. From the search results I click on each one individually. Once on that page I click on the "Edit this page" button at the top. Once the editor loads, I correct the error and click "save". I then go back to search results, click on the next one and repeat the process.

If this is the incorrect way please let me know! 19:50, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

I understand now. The file name is misspelled and because I changed the name on the page that linked to the file        it created a "redlink". (because it couldn't find the file). It makes complete sense that would happen and typically I have avoided doing exactly that in the past, knowing something "not good" would happen. In my haste, I clearly missed the fact that I was changing a link to a file.

I will be more careful in the future. Thank you for your help. 20:13, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

Oh Gee Gee
While you're doing .ogg's, I'm wondering if you got the update Blood Pact music? -- 23:26, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope it's the tracks unlocked in the quest itself; the music got updated to match the symphony like scores RS3 has going on. It was in the Feb 27 patch notes, i believe. And because im awful at coding. -- 17:08, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Regarding today's update
yeah, jagex iz evil... nah, they are just listening to players more, which i like. i don't really comment on YG much... so yeah. 14:47, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

IPA
It's an addition to the English phonetic spelling, not a replacement for it. Those who understand it will have a more accurate pronunciation, those who don't will simply ignore it. It doesn't do any harm. 19:24, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Signature
The Signature to me seems fine, It does not seem broken, can you give me a screen shot on what you mean?


 * I hope this is fixed. 01:33, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

template
Okay, just a few things: Anyway, thanks for reading and understanding ;) 13:08, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) it's not spam, and you don't even think it is: if it was you would remove the template;
 * 2) if you see there is a mistake (due to you moving a page), be a dear and correct it;
 * 3) if you can remember for next time, just wait until I placed the links (aka spam) on the pages that are mentioned in the template. That will reduce these problems too, right?
 * Yes, I understand that you assumed that I would notice the redlink. But I'm just telling you that it may be wiser to wait. Yes, I'm not a native English speaker. But I do understand words like "spam", etc. So it may not have been clear from my previous post, so I will try again:
 * There were only a few steps in my reasoning:
 * Before I attempt to place a "Template:" (like Template:Gods, Template:Treasure_Hunter, etc.) I will attempt to make the template itself first - that already decreases the 'likeliness' of redlinks.
 * I will check the template to see if it links to the correct pages and if it looks like it should.
 * Once I've made the template, I will attempt to add it one of the pages to see if it looks as it's supposed to look.
 * Then I just copy-paste it to all of the other pages that are listed in the template.
 * Once I've added the template on these pages, I might review the template again to see if I forgot to add a view items to the template.

So, if I see someone make a template and I see a mistake in it, I will wait until, at least, it's been added on all pages. To avoid these redlinks you told me about since you moved the page before I was done, as well as, to avoid "edit conflicts" (in the sense that the site tells you someone already changed something while you were working on it). I would especially hold to this if it's a tiny mistake like "Dragon rider", "Dragonrider", etc. instead of "Dragon Rider". imho that can wait a bit. I know this is largely a cultural issue. Germans capitalize all nouns and 'Americans' even tend to capitalize all words that aren't .. articles)= words like: "the", "a", "for", "of", etc.), certainly in things like headers and titles. To me that makes no sense, and I often forget to do so. So... hence.
 * So you moved it before I completed my process. I think this may be more understandable. 17:56, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Your sig
Heya, hope you don't mind me editing Signatures/AnselaJonla. The daily challenges icon was moved, and I wanted to fix the redlink. 09:16, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Your signa-tcher
I like it better with the new minimap icon.

I dunno. -- 16:25, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't. May the battle begin. 15:08, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Image name
Cheers, thanks and will do for the future :)

-xkwipt

Re:Lucien
It is called Tiny Lucien in the pets interface, so until someone actually owns the pet, it can go either way? 17:25, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess so. 17:27, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Zammy Homeworld
Boy, I am on a roll for bad phrasing - Not Zammy's homeworld, his realm he'd been spending time in post Edicts banishment, that he was later found in in the Book of Zamorak, by Moia. 02:42, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

AdLog messages
Because these messages are not trivia, they are just achievement pop-ups for a player. There are a few exceptions (can't remember which ones) where the message actually hints at something worth being mentioned. Also, there's a clear link of it on its main page, so I wouldn't jump to say that most of our users are oblivious of the page's existence. 12:38, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's trivia, it's an opinion. I have been removing AdLog messages from quest pages for quite sometime now, without anyone speaking up against it, so it was fair to assume that that was acceptable to the users and the community. A YG for this issue seems moot, in my humble opinion. 13:24, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

re:Calculator:Template/Slayer and Calculator:
I think you're asking the wrong person. I don't play rs3/rseoc, so I really wouldn't know that. 21:16, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

RE:That was rude
Sorry, I didn't realise you were in the middle of saying something, I really did have to go. And yeah, that is one way of looking at things :P. 09:59, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't follow instructions
1. I just spent the past few minutes trying to see any note. As well, all not directly named are speculation.

2. There was dialogue during Fairy Tale Part 2 that said that fairy rings work from energy left behind from the World Gate, it was not baseless speculation. Jagex named me Able Tis (talk) 21:33, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Zeppelin
Zeppelin was its name in-game (Hero -> Pets -> Companion pets) and because I didn't find that page, I created it. I didn't have much knowledge in the date pages though. Apologies for inconvenience. 18:48, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

many cute
http://i.imgur.com/wWOQyUH.jpg

wow many puppy

such cute

very adore

21:40, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Huh?
Yes. That is my point. You cannot unlock that quest reward from Fate of the Gods, unless you have done a miniquest which requires the ring. There is no way to get around having the ring. In other words, you cannot do Fate of the Gods in place of Desert Treasure. -- 07:15, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Spying the Invisible penguin without ring
Why truncate information with a vague run-on sentence?
 * Sorry, I always seem to forget to sign, but you've taken care of that. Heaven Sent (talk) 19:26, March 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * The table for the invisible penguin lists 3 quests, and 1 mini-quest (excluding the hidden task of speaking with Sliske). "Post-quest" is vague in it's description of which quest you are referring to of the 4 listed. I'm also uncertain which "original phrasing" you are referring to.
 * I understand the meaning of "post-quest", as I know of the contents existence, but the average person looking up this information will more than likely not. I do not like leaving information to be assumed over being listed, but you may disagree with this.
 * Again, I am sorry for my aforementioned lack of signature. Assuming something that notifies me I've left a summary off an edit should notify me I forgot 4 tildes is foolish, I guess. Heaven Sent (talk) 19:56, March 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I believe "after Fate of the Gods" would be enough. There are so many quests required to complete FotG it should function as a blanket quest requirement for every other step in unlocking the gift from Sliske, except for The General's Shadow mini-quest set. Heaven Sent (talk) 20:08, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

zaros thumb
just to let you know, I found it set to thumb, and with good reason. the pic itself was huge. when set to 200 it took half the page. ive resized it since then so the 200 setting works now. 21:51, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

seren edits
the lore that he keeps putting is wrong. also, he hasn't provided any proof. I just love how he gets to make more and more lore edits but some how i'm supposedly breaking a rule? he needs proof, which he has not supplied. 10:21, March 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * fine, one could derive from that text that char was sent. -- 10:34, March 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * also, I did 2 reverts, not 3. both were of his edits, which is the only reason why he complaining this much. -- 10:37, March 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * fine, then have him explain his edits before he makes them, instead of only coming after me. he hasn't made a single comment on the talk page about his edits, and seems to think that the edit reason box is where he can vent and claim that something was "discussed". you want to enforce that rule? do so for both sides, not just one. oh and I did read it, no where does it say that 2 edits become 3 when its lore. -- 10:46, March 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * my user talk page =/= talk page for the lore article's. also, RS:R33 says the "Content disputes can and should be taken to the article's talk page" not the users talk page. that only serves to keep it closed off from others who could weigh in. and you are still only going after me. -- 10:52, March 29, 2014 (UTC)