Talk:Cryptic Clue Fest I/archive 1

Moving Article
In an attempt to not tilt at windmills, I decided to simply go with the inevitable and confirm moving the content to this article instead of reverting the move by User:600613. Per RS:GRAN and due to the fact this is something a bit different than the 2009 Thanksgiving event, sure, I'll go with the idea that this deserves its own article. To keep this from fork\
 * Yay! I was thinking about moving it yesterday... oh well, you were bolder than me, I guess. 17:28, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Emote and Item
We should add a link to an image of the moderators response about detective themed emote and item.--Justin8mil 19:02, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

WOM?
How do we know that this goes to WOM? I see no evidence... Mage24365 22:40, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Hiding clues
I'm using collapsible boxes to hide the clues. I am aware that not all web browsers support this feature, so it isn't perfect, but I'm trying to keep in the spirit of this quest, where half of the struggle is to try and solve the riddles. For me, it seems like it is simply spoiling the whole process of doing a walk-through in this case when clearly the whole point is to try and solve the riddles.

BTW, please don't remove those collapsible boxes unless you have at least argued your point on this talk page for why you think they should go. I'm not necessarily protective that they must be kept, but I hate being reverted as a common vandal and troll here for trying to put this in. --Robert Horning 01:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

the november 29 clues
As few know, it just went up, anyone solved it yet (i am totally lost)

I've figured out that the next number in the sequence is 3, but I have no clue how that helps. -- 14:13, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Final item clue
Can anyone figure out the final clue "Active game player rescues our cliff imp"--Guthix1110 14:29, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

I think that it could have something to do with beads, but it would be impossible for every player to obtain them from imps. -- 14:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm that all 4 beads and a rope DO NOT WORK.--Guthix1110 15:21, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

this sucks, because every possible item is so hard to buy on ge so I can't try all possibilities --nismodrift

The final items
Ok, so what is the final items? I've heard many theories, but the beads are sooo hard to find... is it really every beads and a rope? No. User:Why Baby Why 15:30, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

I heard 8 Redberry pies, 3 yellow beads and 42 gp

Anyone tried that yet?

the beads and rope wont work...... any ideas???

Trying this now, back in 5. plz sign comments! Cant. too many ppls buying beads. Could as many people as possible join the wiki's clan chat at "rswikia" please. I'm taking 3 hours per line, too many ppl saving at once. we'll blow up the server at this rate!--78.150.204.210 15:41, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

i'm lost! >.< I want to try the redberry pies but I can't buy anything needed. Anyone know where to get pie trays and buckets of four so I can try it?

Confirmed Redberry Pies, 3 Yellow beads, and 42gp will not work. -- 15:45, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Final item?
Possibly imp box? Mage24365 15:38, November 29, 2009 (UTC) Remember that f2p players have to be able to do the event as well.

Impossible. it's f2p so imp box cannot be it.Undertakerhbk588 15:40, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Could Gypsy Aris have something to do with it since he said something about a crystal ball?

Active game player rescues our cliff imp.
Guys the main thing we should focus on now is decoding this message:

Active game player rescues our cliff imp

No one has decoded the message yet and you guys are coming up with random items like red berry pies and beads when the message does not even contain the letter 'd'.

Why should it contain the letter 'd'? Why?! 15:44, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

-Since the letter 'd' is not found in the message, it can't be redberry pies or beads as they contain the letter 'd'! The message might be a cryptograph.

I already tried talking to the Gypsy and she would only talk about the Demon Slayer questline and Recipe for Disaster.

Could it mean as an active game player it is a member so we need to go to a non-member spot with a member quest or something?

That would be too troublesome. We should focus on decoding the message!!

Faruq says something about a crystal ball and also read about it, the crystal ball being gypsy aris and read about it the newspaper guy, does this point to the centre of varrock?

I'm going to try to translate the german and french hints now... so ill post back in a minute PS: OUR CLIFF IMP (anagram for) -> Fur Coif Limp? only then, what is a limp? and what tould the rest of the hint stand for? maybe the rest is an anagram too? be right back with translation

'''GERMAN ITEM HINT: 'Spiel Gefroren Murmelufo' -> 'Game Frozen Murmelufo' (if you divide Murmelufo into two parts (Murmel-Ufo)it means Marble UFO (UFO -> Unidentified Flying Object.... It's true but i dont think it has anything to do with the hint as we neither have Marbles or UFO's in the game).

FRENCH ITEM HINT: 'L'étoffe d'hommes fortunés regèle dur' -> 'The pack of furtunate men freezes again (re-freezes) hard' '''

The Race Master is an Imp.

PS: OUR CLIFF IMP (anagram for) -> Fur Coif Limp?-->Fur, coif, and limpwurt roots?

Reward
You can use quickchat to talk about the item "Roddeck's Pipe". And we already know about the magnifying glass. --BreakIt 15:43, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe its an item from the Oracle that we need to get? >.< No idea.

Semi-protect?
Part 4 has been vandalized, can we semi-protect this? -- 15:45, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * As agreed...This is turning into an edit war so far. Fishing logo detail.png 600613 H4XX0R  Talk [[File:Fishing-cape-inv.png]] 15:49, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * It is also being vandalized with the wrong items, which isn't helping the situation at all either. --Komain72 15:53, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Agree, Non-Users getting fustrated and spamming. 15:54, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * ~Several sections of this article are receiving VANDALISATION. Semi protect? I think it needs complete protection or to be LOCKED from editing until the items can be absolutely confirmed.~ ~ExD~


 * I disagree. It'll calm down. And what if an anon user knows it but cannot post? 15:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

then they can put it on this talk page. this article needs protection 15:58, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Gaz just semi-protected this page. I'm leaving it as semi-protected for the next hour or so, but I am going to unprotect this page. I did go on a blocking spree and block a whole bunch of users, so in some ways I don't mind that this is a target for the vandals and miscreants..... they identify themselves by making such stupid edits.

At the same time, in going through the edits on this page there have been a number of very positive contributions that have been done by anonymous users, so I think it can ultimately hurt by semi-protecting here. Some of the additions have been funny, too! --Robert Horning 16:01, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Active player rescues our cliff imp. O_O
I really don't get this.

I heard it was all of the beads and a rope, then I heard it was confirmed, now I am hearing that it has something to do with red berry pies, although that makes no sense what so ever??

help!? =/

-- --Komain72 15:50, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

MODS PLEASE LOCK THE ARTICLE!!!
+ - I am on the clan chat if need to discuss. xyzrune6

NO REDBERRY PIES, NO ALL BEADS

Maybe its about cliff in falador, where imps are sometimes?

Active game player: Maybe you need to be playing a game while doing something with an imp. Farul sell games. -- 15:55, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Our Cliff Imp
Fur,Coif,Limp

Could these be the items? It's not stating specifically what fur,but I think it makes a bit of sense.


 * It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense, but you could try it if you wish. We need all the guesses/help we can get to figure out this clue. --Komain72 15:56, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

I just tried with a bear fur with no luck. -- 15:56, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe the first part is how many, so 6 furs, 6 coifs, and 7 Limpwurt roots. His other words leading to the varrock center i bought newspaper and it says a bear died.

Possible Anagrams?
I've tryed using the number from the 4th clue on the clue Faruq gives out, they might be anagrams which could give the items we need, just a guess though. So far i have TEMLEEUOCFM, or if i move the starting position i get AIGEARSELFP and CVAPYRCSRI. Can anyone helm solve these? Vermin171 15:54, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Very clever idea, but I have no clue what those would mean. :P --Komain72 16:13, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

"Definately take protection"
Goddamn someone put some protection on this. This is ridiculous. Some tards spamming about genitals, pregnant women in sacks, links to GP selling sites. Put some protection on the page. :|
 * I semiprotected for 3 days. 15:58, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

LOCK THE THREAD
People are writing in false facts for everything so lock it now!@@@@@@@@@@@XXstaticXX 15:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 07:57   (Protection log) . . Gaz Lloyd (Talk | contribs) protected "Cryptic Clue Fest" [edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 15:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 15:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)) (Excessive vandalism) - There you go.  16:06, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is generally a bad thing to do, and usually something strongly resisted except under the most unique circumstances. The protection will be removed soon, as there are legitimate edits that were added by new users --Robert Horning 16:22, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Don't get lost.
Remember guys that the items are not in the message at all. When you talk to Faruq he tells you:

"That's most odd, but it should lead you to a place where you can find the items that you'll need."

It also has to be F2P so i thought about karamja volcano. That means a cliff and imps.

It's all i got so far. --189.139.220.19 16:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)Sygzioux.


 * Ok Ok .... All we know is that the phrase leads toa place where we can the items. Read again what Faruq says !!!


 * Read the clue carefully and try not to go off topic. Everything is in the clue, we just need to work it out.


 * Let's try making a list of the places that link to the clue, so we can look for items that spawn at each location... Vermin171 16:08, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this clue. Perhaps 'active game player' means that we have to be in a clan race? Try sounding the horn to start the race at the karamja cliff.


 * All items can be obtained from Port Sarim region - runes, nets and if i remember correctly, cabbages west from Sarim. Only cliff imp I know from that region is the dwarf (small and likes mountains) at very south. Check it?


 * Treating the entire "cliff imp" phrase as an anagram, I was able to come up with "Port Sarim Ice Caves Magic Eye Ruffle Lup". Thoughts? Namrat Jahad 16:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a good suggestion. "Port Sarim Ice Caves" sounds like it so it could be the blurite caves?


 * Maybe Blurite ore? 16:20, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes sense. It could be. We might be getting closer... --Komain72 16:23, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Items for Roddeck?
ac gae yer cue r ciff mp | all previous items That's what i've gotten so far. Might be on wrong track but its a bit coincidental. I know you can't fit all previous items in your pack but still.. i think it's an anagram.

Other language hints
German - Spiel Gefroren Murmelufo

French - L'etoffe d'hommes fortunes regele dur

Portuguese - No veste - pecar fisgar cesse To3cutt3r 16:16, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

spanish - jugador de jeugo avctivo rescata nos diabillo del cliff


 * Translated all of them:


 * French - The makings of men fortunes regele hard


 * German - Game Frozen Murmelufo (Murmelufo means Bead-Ufo)


 * Portuguese - No dress - hook cease sin

Hmm... 16:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Chat?
Is there any live chats... so we can discuss about this????

is the CC for Live Talk We're currently in

Cryptic clue fest final day
does anyone know what items you need to give to roddeck cause i dont think anyone has completed it yet out of over a million people who will be first this needs to be worked out quick cause it gets deleted in a few days

The clue is - An active player saves a hill imp


 * We all know Jagex loves anagrams, so I'm trying to unscramble the letters. No luck so far... 16:20, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

The event will not be removed until the next update, so people will probably have until the middle of next week to complete it at least. The clue is: An active player rescues our cliff imp. Vermin171 16:22, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

foreign language hints
Okay I looked at the clues in german and french and they don't relate to the english one at all, so it has to be some sort of anagram! It would be really hard, but we could try to decipher the other langueage clues as well and cross-reference results.

Anagram?
I think Zezima is wrong. It has to be an anagram that's why all the different languages have different sentences. Let's start working it out!

Active Game player -.-

Could make Mage, Mace, magic? -- 16:28, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps active game player means having some of the clan game tools on hand that can be bought from faruq in al kharid.. was there not some mention of while talking to him, to buy some of his wares

ITS NOT GYPSY - ITS RODDECK.
It has to be Roddeck, he's the only person that is actually in the middle of the 4 items. Gypsy isn't in the middle of any.

Also, Faruq says he..

Roddeck is wise too so it would make sense ^_^

????
Did anyone notice? the line said : 'active player rescues our cliff imp'? there was a ? sign at the end, and doesn't it sound like a newspaper heading a little bit??

It is solved
I am proud to announce that the last clue is solved by me (Ezze 13) [Lies. I (random anonymous) posted the answer before you]. The items needed are: 8 chisels, 3 eggs and 234 coins. Anyone can check it, it is true. Please omeone edit it in, as I can't. Ezze 13 "It is solved", but definitly not by you, as you would have given your reasons :/ oh well... looking forward to the logic behind it. Reward is magnifying glass + emote. GreatS 17:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

LOCK THE THREAD
People are writing in false facts for everything so lock it now!@@@@@@@@@@@XXstaticXX 15:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 07:57   (Protection log) . . Gaz Lloyd (Talk | contribs) protected "Cryptic Clue Fest" [edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 15:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 15:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)) (Excessive vandalism) - There you go.  16:06, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is generally a bad thing to do, and usually something strongly resisted except under the most unique circumstances. The protection will be removed soon, as there are legitimate edits that were added by new users --Robert Horning 16:22, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * The amount and proportion of vandalism was a little high for my liking, but if you want to remove the protection go ahead. 16:34, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Don't get lost.
Remember guys that the items are not in the message at all. When you talk to Faruq he tells you:

"That's most odd, but it should lead you to a place where you can find the items that you'll need."

It also has to be F2P so i thought about karamja volcano. That means a cliff and imps.

It's all i got so far. --189.139.220.19 16:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)Sygzioux.


 * Ok Ok .... All we know is that the phrase leads toa place where we can the items. Read again what Faruq says !!!


 * Read the clue carefully and try not to go off topic. Everything is in the clue, we just need to work it out.


 * Let's try making a list of the places that link to the clue, so we can look for items that spawn at each location... Vermin171 16:08, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Anawer
3eggs 8 chizels 234gp


 * Thank you for this clue. Perhaps 'active game player' means that we have to be in a clan race? Try sounding the horn to start the race at the karamja cliff.


 * All items can be obtained from Port Sarim region - runes, nets and if i remember correctly, cabbages west from Sarim. Only cliff imp I know from that region is the dwarf (small and likes mountains) at very south. Check it?


 * Treating the entire "cliff imp" phrase as an anagram, I was able to come up with "Port Sarim Ice Caves Magic Eye Ruffle Lup". Thoughts? Namrat Jahad 16:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a good suggestion. "Port Sarim Ice Caves" sounds like it so it could be the blurite caves?


 * Maybe Blurite ore? 16:20, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes sense. It could be. We might be getting closer... --Komain72 16:23, November 29, 2009 (UTC)\


 * True, and also, if you take the "Magic Eye" section, it could refer to Gypsy Aris' 'Magic Eye' outside of her tent. So I'm thinking the items may come from 3 completely different places. -- 16:39, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe items that r onlsy found on karamja like karamja rum or monkey bones!!!!!!!!!!!!

Items for Roddeck?
ac gae yer cue r ciff mp | all previous items That's what i've gotten so far. Might be on wrong track but its a bit coincidental. I know you can't fit all previous items in your pack but still.. i think it's an anagram.

The clue is an anagram for "Creative Gameplay - Forum Specific Rules". The last three riddles lie there and give the final items.

Other language hints
German - Spiel Gefroren Murmelufo

French - L'etoffe d'hommes fortunes regele dur

Portuguese - No veste - pecar fisgar cesse To3cutt3r 16:16, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

spanish - jugador de jeugo avctivo rescata nos diabillo del cliff


 * Translated all of them:


 * French - The makings of men fortunes regele hard


 * German - Game Frozen Murmelufo (Murmelufo means Bead-Ufo)


 * Portuguese - No dress - hook cease sin

Hmm... 16:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * True... We don't have real world alien UFO's, but we do have flying objects, Balloons! Possibly if we find a balloon station with an Imp near it?

Chat?
Is there any live chats... so we can discuss about this????

is the CC for Live Talk We're currently in

I think the answers lie in the foreign language clues...read the french and german clues...so different lol..

Roddeck's Pipe
Im in a german world and found an item in the quickchat called Roddecks Pfeife = Roddeck's pipe. Any Ideas?

Google trends
I would have written a sentence about this myself, if the article wouldn't have been protected, so I would like to suggest the following to be added to the main part of the article: ''On November 29 2009 (the last day of the cluefest) the query 'cryptic clue fest day 4' was most searched for on google http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?sa=X&date=2009-11-29, which is a unique achievement for an in-game event. GreatS 16:38, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

I made a Trivia section, wrote a sentence about the Google Trend thing, put a picture, and someone deleted it. Guess someone doesn't think it's an important achievement... --IBriian 16:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

colors
Does it have ath to do with the colors of the text Faruq uses when he gives you the clues? the 1st part of the hint was in red text for me, then black then red, then black then red again. Could that be a hint as to the color of beads needed? Did everyone get the same colors when they were talking to faruq?

Its all in the forums here is what it says Puzzle 1

Let me introduce Mod Mark H, Mod Kathy and Mod Crow. Each of them is going to tell you *one* of the items you will need. The only problem is – only one of them is telling the truth.

Mod Mark H: “You need a Cabbage” Mod Kathy: “You need an Egg” Mod Crow: “You need a Potato”

But who is lying?

Mod Mark H: “Don’t believe Mod Kathy; she always lies! She stole my princess crown!” Mod Kathy: “Don’t listen to Mod Crow; he lies! He isn’t even a real bird!” Mod Crow: “Don’t listen to either of them; they are both lying. They are both lesser beings, after all!”

Figure out who is telling the truth – you’ll need three of their item!

Puzzle 2

Below are five objects. One is the ‘Odd One Out’. The ‘Odd One Out’ is the kind of object you will need for this task. You’ll need eight of this object.

No hints for this one!

Puzzle 3

Ah, here’s one of my favourite little rhymes. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

“As I was travelling to Falador, one bright and sunny day, I came across a group of knights, heading towards the other way.

There were thirteen knights in total, each noble in their attire. Each knight then had three attendants – officials known as squires.

Each peasant lad was charged with caring for three mules, or t’would be their hides. Each mule had then two packs apiece, in each pack a coin to pay glad tithes.

The number of coins the party possessed – this you must unravel! For the same amount of golden coins will surely complete your travel!”

Right, now you should have all the items you need in the correct quantities. Come and speak to me with those items in your inventory for your reward!

Reason for blanking the page? Explain?
I just saw the page was blanked, and I am un-able to undo the edit.

Reason for blanking the page please? and Explain? There were a lot of different things on this page that were helpful. Please Explain your reason. --Komain72 16:44, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of what we come up with, we simply don't have all the information.

For example, how many of each item do we need? Karatenin 16:43, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

something interesting i found
on runescape cryptic clue forum thread it says at top of clue 4 It's day four of the Cryptic Clue Fest, and do we have a treat for you! It seems the clues have reached their most diabolical, but don't count on this being the last set of clues you'll have to solve today! Here comes your first instalment: sounds like another clue will come out today

Forum hint :S
some guy on forum said this as a hint "What shrimp and anchovies get stuck in, green & edible, crafted token with elemental properties" --82.95.242.249 16:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

kebab??


 * These are the items for the previous clue (Small fishing net, Cabbage, Air runes) we're looking for the last items that you need.

Someone has Magnifying Class in World 2.
It seems that 2 people have the magnifying glass so we know that that is the reward. They are not disclosing how they got them though, all they are saying is that "Active game player rescues our cliff imp" is an anagram. So maybe we should look into this.

How to solve Day 4 part 2.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3641/091129164827.png

That pic shows proof (8 chisels, 3 eggs, 234 coins)

Don't ask why cause I don't have a clue.

Reward is a magnifying glass, of which does an emote. Should you lose it diango can return it to you.


 * The forum hints gave it away, look at a post about the Mods a few lines up on this discussion page, it basically gives it away :)

I found the answer
The items are 3 eggs, 8 chisels, and 234 gp

!!!!!!!!
SPOILERS===!!!!!!!! ==

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/dirizz/Wiki/roddeckconvo.png

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/dirizz/Wiki/magglass.png

The items are 234 coins, 8 chisels, 3 eggs.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, enjoy your new item  17:05, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Happy thanksgiving from me too! Albert ace

Confirmed !!
It's 234 gold coins, 8 chisels(any general store) and 3 eggs. Reward is a " Old magnifying glass" with a "Sleuth Option". When selected the player does a small emote with the magnifying glass. I would like to thank everyone who helped out (even the one who kept on deleting the post :P)

.::Genesis::. If the reward is the magnifying glass then what is "Roddeck's Pipe"?

SPOILER
"Active game player rescues our cliff imp" is an anagram for Creative Gameplay.

Go to the RS Forums, and then creative gameplay, and click RULES.

Then complete those 3 fun riddles :)


 * sigh*

Roddeck: 7 Cabbages, 3 Eggs, 234 Coins


 * For the record, the line fully decodes to: "creative gameplay forum specific rules". Boa1891 18:28, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, now we at least know where the answer COMES from Thanks! Here's the link to anyone wondering : http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?137,138,rules

17:20, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

All check the Creative Gameplay thread in forums
$$$$ The answer is in this forum

Roddeck and his items
Day 4 part 2 is 3 eggs 8 chisels and 234 GP no more than 234 GP though speak to Roddeck for part 2


 * We know Thank you though.  17:19, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

code for roddeck = 3 eggs 8 chisel and 234gp

Roddeck's Pipe
HOW CAN I GET RODDECK'S PIPE? ITZ IN QC, BUT I CANT GET ONE! HELP! GRIDSTER2

So far, we know you can not get it from the Cryptic Clue Fest. The reward for the Cryptic Clue Fest is a magnifying glass. Roddeck says this is the reward, so I doubt there will be another.

17:29, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, no, never mind, it isn't coming out with the quest next week. See the article for more info. 21:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

CONFIRMED: Items
The final items are 3 eggs, 8 chisiles, and 234 coins. I tried it, it worked. I now have the reward, which is the Magnify Glass

Roddeck's Pipe
A pipe is basicly those things you see in old movies sometimes they are toys and bubbles float out when they are in your mouth. They have something to do with sluthing,

Cryptic Clue Fest Day 4 (Answers)
Talk to: Faruq in the desert

Items: x10 air runes x7 cababges x3 small fishing net

PArt II:

Talk to: Roddeck in lummy

Items: x234coins x8 chisels x3 eggs

i really don't know how to do all that stuff so here

Event
you need 3 eggs, 8 chinsels and 234 coints

items reward & emote
the items are: 234 coins, 3 eggs, 8 chisels (dunno why) item is magnifying glass emote is sleuth by operatinf magnifying glass

Didn't work
I talked to all the people, had all the right items (nothing else), but Roddeck didn't mention 'the group', and now I don't get the magnifying glass. I sent a bug report to Jagex; has this happened to anyone else? 19:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * I just got the magnifying glass myself. The 8 chisels, 234 coins, and 3 eggs should do the trick, assuming that you also talked to the other four NPCs first.  I'm curious what happens if you go to Roddeck first with all of these items :)  --Robert Horning 19:11, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably nothing. I tired to go to the gem merchant with all the items needed but he didn't say anything about 'the group'.--99.63.87.252 20:48, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Restoring deleted discussion
In the mass of users editing this page and discussion section, a fairly massive amount of discussion was simply removed from this talk page. My question: Should it be restored? Yes, I'm aware of RS:DDD, and it is sad that such a policy was not followed here by whomever removed this content. --Robert Horning 19:09, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yesh. -- 19:10, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * I was a bit confused myself as to why so much discussion was being deleted. I posted on this talk page at least three times, but my comments were all deleted. The answer to the last clue was found long before the people above posted their discoveries... 19:34, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * We got hit with a vandalism attack from heck, and it shows. In spite of the fact that it keeps getting ripped out of the article, I do think it is worth mentioning that Google was also hammered hard by essentially the entire Runescape community trying to solve this last clue, and some folks going to extreme measures to solve this last riddle.  I ended up blocking 19 different users (1 registered account and 18 IP addresses) all because of malicious vandalism on this page.  Most of that was in the couple of hours between when the last clue was released and when Gaz finally put the semi-protection on it.  I can only imagine that it was also getting hammered by search engines and players just wanting to find the answer.  --Robert Horning 19:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried reverting/rollbacking once or twice, and it was successful, but they just kept editing too fast, giving me edit conflicts, and then people not caring that it was deleted, but yeah, that was some crazy, confusing stuff :\, wish I could've saved more.. 21:18, November 29, 2009 (UTC)