File talk:Balmung equipped.png


 * cabbage* I misread the file size (I thought it was 8kb not 18) but the point stands that Diriz's version has a lot of anti-aliasing artefacts along the edge which makes the image appear blurry and kinda unattractive. 22:10, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * After testing out the archived version of mine on the Gaming skin, I found that there are no AA artefacts. That's only an outline + AA you see. No artefacts. I used the same process XoPp used with his images. I really don't see the problem here, but oh well, I couldn't care less either. 23:01, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * If you gave me your original image, I could probably make the outline smoother. -- 23:02, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd be glad to, but still, I just simply don't see the problem with the current outline. Is it bumpy or something? If it has no artefacts, is AA, and is only about 1px, then what is the problem? Could someone explain? 23:05, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * It just looks blurry to me. The outline is unnecessary and in my opinion, rather distracting. I didn't think it was done intentionally or I probably wouldn't have reverted it before posting here. Why do you think the outline version is better? 01:11, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the outlined version is better because it doesn't make the image look so jagged and pixelated. My game applet can't handle RSHD AAx4, but it can handle RSHD. RSHD has jagged edges with no anti-aliasing, therefore, this is how the images will come out. You can obviously see this is what Mike uses, and from my past images you can tell that it's what I use too. Simple enough.


 * The outline takes away that jagged look, and it does apply some anti-aliasing. It looks smoother, I don't see it as blurry. Maybe it looks blurry because my character's skin tone is darker, and I'm wearing darker clothing (compared to Mike), but just because it might look a little bit blurry to one or two people, that's no reason to replace my work. Xopp's images were not replaced, why should mine be? Doesn't seem fair imho. 02:52, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact that those images haven't been replaced doesn't mean that yours can't be. Also, its true that mike's has jagged edges, but I happen to believe that that's most attractive. Again, I don't intend to revert to whatever version I like better - the only reason I reverted this time was because I didn't know it was intentional - but even though its intentional, I don't feel that its necessarily to the best interest of the wiki that the outline be applied. For example, what if because of the trim, players thought that was part of the actual weapon? Or if it were a cape being shown, what if that made players think the cape had a black trim? I'm not saying it would be the end of the world, but I do believe no outline is better, even if it does mean jagged edges (which aren't really that noticeable to begin with) 03:00, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * The point I was trying to get it was that I used the same exact procedure as XoPp had, but somehow, it's not correct. I don't get why it's such a big deal to have an outline, as I've said before, if people come to an article wondering what something looks like, they're gonna look at it and leave. They won't pay much attention to the Dagon'hai robes around it, they don't care. As long as my robes aren't covering up the axe or something, I don't see the problem. I was actually kind of excited to have a new procedure to edit my images, I liked the look of it. But no, it's been shot down because it's a tad blurry, and the trim of my cape which doesn't even touch the axe might be part of the axe somehow. It's these little things that shouldn't be "noticed" or what's the word "complained" about. If the rules and 'best interest' of the wiki have to come down to a tiny 1px black line and a cape, I might as well not upload at all anymore. I feel offended to have my work reverted over such a small thing. This is the reason Wikipedia editors are leaving, this is the reason people think we have too many rules. Sure, most rules are needed, but small nitpicking like this is not. I should be allowed to enjoy the image I upload, not be forced to follow some guideline. I didn't fight for the right to wear a costume just for another argument having to do with blurry 1px lines and trimmed ardy cloaks to come up.


 * Psycho, I consider you a friend of mine, I don't mean this post to be an attack or to be against you, but some things can be hard to not care about. When small nitpicking like this happens, my mind just springs up with a sign saying "ridiculous" and wants to argue. I have reasons for everything. 03:19, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

You are misunderstanding my point about the trim. It has nothing to do with your cape or your costume. The point I was trying to make was that the black outline you used might be mistaken as part of the actual weapon itself. Its fairly obvious that the outline is just an outline when you look at an axe like that, but if it were something like cape, something which might actually have an outline in-game, then it would be difficult to tell whether it was actually part of the cape, or just the outline you've applied. The fact that XoPp did it doesn't mean that its a carte blanche for you to do it as well. If I had seen XoPp doing this, I would have asked him not to do it as well. I don't think this is nitpicking because I feel the outline changes the image significantly. 03:31, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not as if the trim/outline is only covering the axe. It's covering the whole outside of my character. Now, if the outline was only covering the axe, and nothing else, then that's a different story, and viewers might be led to believe that it's part of the object. But it's not. It's covering the whole image. Anyone who's played RuneScape for at least 5 hours knows that characters in game do not have this anti-aliased 1px black outline around them. Anyone with eyes at least. And even if they do mistake it for part of the axe, why is this such a big deal? People want to see the axe, once they see the axe, they leave. People aren't gonna sit in their office chair staring at their computer thinking "WHY IS THAT BLACK LINE THERE. WHY. IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE, HMM IDK--". It just doesn't happen like that. It's not a big deal. 03:44, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, I guess its not a huge deal. And if it still bugs me after a few days I suppose I can always take it to the yew grove, or bug some other editors to post their thoughts here. I'll go ahead and clear the file history with yours on top. 04:01, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I don't want this to feel like a victory/loss situation, but thanks. 04:07, December 17, 2009 (UTC)