RuneScape:Chat/Logs/23 September 2014

 [2014-09-22 23:17:15] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://rsthemeplay.wikia.com/wiki/The_Fremennik_God wow [2014-09-22 23:17:45] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; " I originally attempted to post this information on the official Runescape Wiki but unfortunately, overzealous admins (and potentially jealous?) buried my contribution using the excuse that it was "unsourced" Well duh, of course it's unsourced, I'm not in the habit of filming people or taping them while I hold conversations with them. Apparently the professional and detailed manner of the contribution, complete with explanation, details and conjecture didn't add a shred of authenticity in the eyes of these people." [2014-09-22 23:18:01] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; "As you can see, it took the WikiNazis less than three minutes to pounce on my contribution using their "unsourced" excuse to try and bury it. Jealous that I alone gave enough of a fuck to hoof it down to London and ask Mod Osborne a bunch of questions face to face more like it? Watch those people attempt a bit of plagarism when the Fremennik God does get released and it turns out I was right!" [2014-09-22 23:18:16] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Jagex is rude about that kind of thing. [2014-09-22 23:18:33] &lt;Jlun2&gt; &gt;.&gt; [2014-09-22 23:18:34] &lt;Jlun2&gt; wow [2014-09-22 23:18:36] &lt;Spineweilder&gt; hey [2014-09-22 23:18:41] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tyrleifr [2014-09-22 23:18:44] &lt;Jlun2&gt; also [2014-09-22 23:18:44] &lt;Spineweilder&gt; at least he called us the official Runescape Wiki [2014-09-22 23:18:45] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/MH1Dumah [2014-09-22 23:18:45] &lt;Jlun2&gt; really [2014-09-22 23:19:01] &lt;Jlun2&gt; sockpuppeting? [2014-09-22 23:19:07] &lt;Jlun2&gt; at least use a different name [2014-09-22 23:19:10] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I'm confused. They have had two accounts on the wiki for like 6 months [2014-09-22 23:19:43] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Oh, he was talking about this wiki? [2014-09-22 23:19:49] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Why did they switch to the second account if the first account wasn't even blocked... [2014-09-22 23:20:06] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; RS:SOCK I need to look at this policy again [2014-09-22 23:20:11] &lt;Cook_Me_Plox&gt; lol [2014-09-22 23:20:15] &lt;Cook_Me_Plox&gt; this guy is not very endearing [2014-09-22 23:20:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; apparently that doesn't exist [2014-09-22 23:20:25] &lt;Jlun2&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fremennik_gods#On_the_Fremennik_God [2014-09-22 23:20:26] &lt;Jlun2&gt; wow [2014-09-22 23:20:33] &lt;Jlun2&gt; he posted a spma image here just to fuck with wiki [2014-09-22 23:20:34] &lt;Jlun2&gt; k [2014-09-22 23:20:49] &lt;Jlun2&gt; also neckbeard dew [2014-09-22 23:20:51] &lt;Jlun2&gt; erw [2014-09-22 23:21:05] &lt;Kq_head&gt; neckbeard dew? gross [2014-09-22 23:21:16] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I guess we don't have a socking policy [2014-09-22 23:21:25] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Idk probably nothing needs to be done anyway [2014-09-22 23:21:33] -!- KDanger has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:21:44] -!- Cook Me Plox has left Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:22:03] &lt;Jlun2&gt; so....the reason he thinks everyone would believe his unsourced statement is because? [2014-09-22 23:22:25] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; "the professional and detailed manner of the contribution, complete with explanation, details and conjecture" [2014-09-22 23:22:44] &lt;Jlun2&gt; you know anyone can write like that and self publish right [2014-09-22 23:22:46] &lt;Jlun2&gt; lol [2014-09-22 23:23:06] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Could we block him now for calling us wikinazis? [2014-09-22 23:23:15] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/RuneScape_talk:Counter-Vandalism_Unit?diff=prev&oldid=3795215 [2014-09-22 23:23:19] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; I don't think we can but it'd be nice to [2014-09-22 23:23:26] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Send him to the gas chambers plox [2014-09-22 23:23:40] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Nitrous oxide will chill him out a bit [2014-09-22 23:23:43] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; We can't block people for being awful somewhere else [2014-09-22 23:24:07] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Is there nothing we can do about the slander? [2014-09-22 23:24:07] &lt;Jlun2&gt; i thought he quite [2014-09-22 23:24:10] &lt;Jlun2&gt; quit [2014-09-22 23:24:14] &lt;Jlun2&gt; why is he posting here [2014-09-22 23:24:31] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I'm not sure "wikinazi" counts as slander necessarily [2014-09-22 23:24:48] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it haz nazi in it [2014-09-22 23:24:51] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; @@ [2014-09-22 23:24:56] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I don't believe they are actually claiming we are actually nazis for real [2014-09-22 23:25:28] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; He is slandering us though [2014-09-22 23:25:55] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I'm unfamiliar with the precedent regarding multiple accounts. I don't know if anything needs to be done, but if something does, someone else needs to take a look at this. [2014-09-22 23:25:57] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Trying to claim that we were trying to bury his contributions out of sheer jealousy [2014-09-22 23:26:01] &lt;Jlun2&gt; worse part is that I'm sure there would be people agreeing with him [2014-09-22 23:26:06] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/MH1Dumah http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tyrleifr [2014-09-22 23:26:38] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I genuinely have no clue if there's any real issue here but I feel like there could be. [2014-09-22 23:26:44] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; idk [2014-09-22 23:26:45] &lt;Jlun2&gt; inb4 using alts to garner "support" [2014-09-22 23:26:54] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; TyA/Mime, ya know if anything could be done about the slander? [2014-09-22 23:27:22] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; We can't block people for saying shit about us in other places Ciph [2014-09-22 23:27:42] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; That's like, fining people for saying shit about our restaurant on yelp [2014-09-22 23:27:47] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; nobody likes people who do that [2014-09-22 23:27:48] &lt;Jlun2&gt; yea, or certain jag ips would've been blocked for life [2014-09-22 23:27:49] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Oh I'm not seeing about getting him blocked [2014-09-22 23:27:59] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; I'm seeing if I can get it removed [2014-09-22 23:28:04] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; oh [2014-09-22 23:28:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; do you actually care enough? [2014-09-22 23:28:37] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; About this particular case - aye [2014-09-22 23:29:07] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; Don't think so Ciph [2014-09-22 23:30:04] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Hmm [2014-09-22 23:30:19] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Oh well, was worth a shot [2014-09-22 23:30:29] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; oh yeah, mime's vstf [2014-09-22 23:30:32] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; good for you mime [2014-09-22 23:30:40] -!- Funds has left Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:30:50] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; u so late [2014-09-22 23:30:57] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; Ty :P [2014-09-22 23:31:14] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I'm pretty sure you were vstf last time i was around, i just didn't say anything [2014-09-22 23:31:18] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; sparkling wisps [2014-09-22 23:31:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; idk [2014-09-22 23:31:36] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; :P [2014-09-22 23:31:42] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; Got it jan 20 I think [2014-09-22 23:31:42] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; 24* [2014-09-22 23:31:42] &lt;Jr_Mime&gt; Or 25 [2014-09-22 23:31:45] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; also i've made 4 edits in the last 6 months leave me alone okay [2014-09-22 23:32:35] &lt;Jlun2&gt; hey [2014-09-22 23:32:40] &lt;Jlun2&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Coeden%27s_Seed_Store [2014-09-22 23:32:49] &lt;Jlun2&gt; also what are the sources of elder seeds [2014-09-22 23:32:53] &lt;Jlun2&gt; other than crystal ammy [2014-09-22 23:33:24] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; wait so, we actually have an elf city now? [2014-09-22 23:33:28] &lt;Jlun2&gt; yes [2014-09-22 23:33:31] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Wow [2014-09-22 23:33:37] &lt;Jlun2&gt; btw that existed in osr for a while [2014-09-22 23:33:37] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Today [2014-09-22 23:33:38] &lt;Jlun2&gt; so yea [2014-09-22 23:33:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wat [2014-09-22 23:33:43] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; elf shitty? [2014-09-22 23:33:45] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wow [2014-09-22 23:33:47] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I didn't think I would see the day Jagex would actually get around to it [2014-09-22 23:33:50] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; dat so beyootifur [2014-09-22 23:33:53] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; How long did it take them? [2014-09-22 23:33:56] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ^per matt [2014-09-22 23:34:00] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; uh [2014-09-22 23:34:02] &lt;Jlun2&gt; a decade [2014-09-22 23:34:04] &lt;Jlun2&gt; or more [2014-09-22 23:34:05] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well they started MEP1 in 2005 [2014-09-22 23:34:12] &lt;Jlun2&gt; underground pass was in rsc joey [2014-09-22 23:34:15] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and regicide was before that [2014-09-22 23:34:30] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; yes but underground pass =/= isafadaafarardrar [2014-09-22 23:34:33] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; so, ~a decade? [2014-09-22 23:34:50] &lt;Jlun2&gt; oh and biohazard [2014-09-22 23:34:52] &lt;Jlun2&gt; so yes [2014-09-22 23:35:02] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; biohazard [2014-09-22 23:35:12] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I think Mod Elfborne discusses it in http://youtu.be/eHPmthjAvB4 [2014-09-22 23:35:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; so, 12 years? [2014-09-22 23:35:28] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; Regicide [2014-09-22 23:35:38] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; 2004-2014 [2014-09-22 23:35:42] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; so not a decade [2014-09-22 23:35:56] &lt;Jlun2&gt; joey but biohazard and underground pass are needed [2014-09-22 23:36:00] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; what's the new quest called with the elf shitty wok? [2014-09-22 23:36:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; yes [2014-09-22 23:36:05] &lt;Jlun2&gt; plagues end [2014-09-22 23:36:06] &lt;Jlun2&gt; iirc [2014-09-22 23:36:08] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but what I mean [2014-09-22 23:36:15] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; is that at the time of biohazard [2014-09-22 23:36:21] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; regicide was released 20 september 2004 [2014-09-22 23:36:21] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; nobody even had the idea of elf city [2014-09-22 23:36:24] &lt;Jlun2&gt; ah [2014-09-22 23:36:25] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; so it's almost exactly a decade [2014-09-22 23:36:28] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; almost exactly [2014-09-22 23:36:35] &lt;Jlun2&gt; over by 2 days [2014-09-22 23:36:36] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you should count starting from the creation of the blank elf city templat [2014-09-22 23:36:41] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; it took them almost exactly a decade [2014-09-22 23:36:44] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; which was the release of regicide in 2004 [2014-09-22 23:36:45] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Fuck you Jagex. [2014-09-22 23:36:48] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; yeah [2014-09-22 23:36:59] &lt;Jlun2&gt; matt, I'm still waiting for Strange power [2014-09-22 23:37:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i thought that was dungeoneering [2014-09-22 23:37:38] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; Nope [2014-09-22 23:37:43] &lt;Jlun2&gt; I meant it was supposed to be related to last floor [2014-09-22 23:37:46] &lt;Jlun2&gt; i think [2014-09-22 23:37:47] &lt;Ciphrius_Kane&gt; It was the death of a mahjarrat [2014-09-22 23:37:58] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; "A "finale" for the story of Daemonheim has been confirmed. However, like much of the detail of the finale itself, the connection to the Strange Power is not known." [2014-09-22 23:38:00] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah right [2014-09-22 23:38:17] &lt;Jlun2&gt; uh [2014-09-22 23:38:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah i understand [2014-09-22 23:38:23] &lt;Jlun2&gt; some lorehound want to change that? [2014-09-22 23:38:37] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; how long did ritual of the mahjarrat take them? [2014-09-22 23:38:54] &lt;Jlun2&gt; uh [2014-09-22 23:38:58] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; (qc) The Exchange price of 1x magic seed is 123,236 coins. [2014-09-22 23:39:02] &lt;Jlun2&gt; when was "the north" first mentioned? [2014-09-22 23:39:14] &lt;Jlun2&gt; coel elder seeds are 250k atm dump them :) [2014-09-22 23:39:37] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; i put them in for 1m each still havent sold [2014-09-22 23:39:44] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rift i did not know this lore [2014-09-22 23:39:46] &lt;Jlun2&gt; er [2014-09-22 23:40:08] &lt;Jlun2&gt; 1m seems too much [2014-09-22 23:40:44] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; i was going by what ozzy said [2014-09-22 23:40:57] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; if they dont sell by tomorrow when i get up ill lower thr price [2014-09-22 23:41:49] -!- Ciphrius Kane has left Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:43:08] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Joey: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Joeytje50/Dropadd.js Needs more linebreaks [2014-09-22 23:43:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ik ik [2014-09-22 23:43:38] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; don't get me started on all the scripts I've got here [2014-09-22 23:43:44] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; even I don't wanna look at that [2014-09-22 23:43:57] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that's why you're *supposed* to learn coding from some kind of nubbish site [2014-09-22 23:44:02] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but I learned it here [2014-09-22 23:44:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; so I started out with ALL the bad conventions [2014-09-22 23:44:32] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; like horrible "it works but it shouldn't, but I guess that means it works" stuff [2014-09-22 23:44:41] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; User:Matthew2602/SwitchInfobox.js [2014-09-22 23:44:44] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; tell me about it [2014-09-22 23:44:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; which will work in all of the cases I tested, but not that one case it does need to work [2014-09-22 23:45:00] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; pffftttt [2014-09-22 23:45:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that's NOTHIN [2014-09-22 23:45:08] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you aint seen nothin yet [2014-09-22 23:45:12] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you're right [2014-09-22 23:45:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; some of your scripts are horrendous [2014-09-22 23:45:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; sorry [2014-09-22 23:45:21] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; lol [2014-09-22 23:45:25] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well I'll tell ya this [2014-09-22 23:45:38] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; guess how I did a callback function for the OLD version of my AWB script [2014-09-22 23:45:49] &lt;Jlun2&gt; leech off others? [2014-09-22 23:45:51] -!- Spineweilder has left Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:45:55] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; which was by the way the actual first script of actual size I ever made [2014-09-22 23:46:02] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; probably my 4th JS script ever [2014-09-22 23:46:07] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; uhm [2014-09-22 23:46:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; so dun expect anything too good [2014-09-22 23:46:13] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you... [2014-09-22 23:46:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; ...invoked a function? [2014-09-22 23:46:19] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah? [2014-09-22 23:46:22] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you probably did that [2014-09-22 23:46:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; nop [2014-09-22 23:46:38] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wait lemme find the source [2014-09-22 23:46:53] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; what do you mean nop [2014-09-22 23:47:02] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you can't call a callback without calling it [2014-09-22 23:47:07] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; that makes no sense [2014-09-22 23:47:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you haven't called it then [2014-09-22 23:47:45] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; http://joeytje50.wikia.com/wiki/User:Joeytje50/AWB.js [2014-09-22 23:47:53] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh the horrors [2014-09-22 23:47:57] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well just look at that [2014-09-22 23:48:05] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you say it makes no sense [2014-09-22 23:48:08] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but to a JS newb [2014-09-22 23:48:11] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it makes total sense [2014-09-22 23:48:25] &lt;Jlun2&gt; //todo: wtf is going on here?? [2014-09-22 23:48:28] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; function defVars(run) { [2014-09-22 23:48:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; argument `run`: a FRIKKEN STRING of the function to run then [2014-09-22 23:48:51] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that whole function [2014-09-22 23:49:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; should not even have crawled out of the hideous dimension it came from [2014-09-22 23:49:17] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; //todo: is a comment [2014-09-22 23:49:22] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; // indicates that it's a comment [2014-09-22 23:49:28] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then todo: means I still gotta do that [2014-09-22 23:49:35] &lt;Jlun2&gt; joey its a jo0ke [2014-09-22 23:49:38] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; holy duck [2014-09-22 23:49:41] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; fuck* [2014-09-22 23:49:45] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ikr [2014-09-22 23:49:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; see [2014-09-22 23:49:50] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I win at horribru code [2014-09-22 23:49:53] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; :D [2014-09-22 23:49:53] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; hey [2014-09-22 23:50:04] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i'm pretty sure we were all dependent on eval at some point [2014-09-22 23:50:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; lol [2014-09-22 23:50:13] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; not this badly though [2014-09-22 23:50:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; there was a time i didn't know how to access a property with a string [2014-09-22 23:50:33] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you mean like var['foo']? [2014-09-22 23:50:37] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah [2014-09-22 23:50:37] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh dear [2014-09-22 23:50:52] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i literally did var a = "foobar"; eval("object." + a) [2014-09-22 23:50:53] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh that reminds me of the single worse use of eval I've ever seen [2014-09-22 23:50:55] -!- Lightingkiller has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:51:01] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; "not this badly though" [2014-09-22 23:51:03] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; eval('b') = 'foo'; [2014-09-22 23:51:03] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; are you sure [2014-09-22 23:51:08] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; are you really sure [2014-09-22 23:51:10] &lt;Lightingkiller&gt; hey everybody [2014-09-22 23:51:20] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that guy expected var b to be 'foo' then [2014-09-22 23:51:21] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Hi, Doctor Nick. [2014-09-22 23:51:26] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i can't even begin to understand that joey [2014-09-22 23:51:26] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well okay I'll give ya that [2014-09-22 23:51:27] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; hello [2014-09-22 23:51:30] -!- Cook Me Plox has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:51:36] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; eval for that is quite bad too [2014-09-22 23:51:40] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Hi, everygloop. [2014-09-22 23:51:41] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but I've seen it before [2014-09-22 23:51:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; still though [2014-09-22 23:51:51] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; joey what did you think of elf city [2014-09-22 23:51:56] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; let's say we all have our dirty code behind us [2014-09-22 23:52:02] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; my problem is that some of it is still being used [2014-09-22 23:52:08] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; idk [2014-09-22 23:52:11] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i'm pretty sure stackoverflow saved my ass with getting a property with a string [2014-09-22 23:52:14] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; all I herd was that they took a decade to make it [2014-09-22 23:52:22] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and considering that rome was built in one day [2014-09-22 23:52:31] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; but yes, i was one of the people who needed THAT stackoverflow question [2014-09-22 23:52:32] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; this better be some frikken great city [2014-09-22 23:52:41] &lt;Jlun2&gt; orb doesnt work there [2014-09-22 23:52:49] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh stackoverflow is my hero for everything [2014-09-22 23:53:03] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; had to do a C++ assignment just last week [2014-09-22 23:53:05] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah but you shouldn't need stackoverflow to get a property with a string ffs [2014-09-22 23:53:10] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; 100% SO-based [2014-09-22 23:53:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; matt dw [2014-09-22 23:53:35] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you had no tutorial [2014-09-22 23:53:39] -!- Lightingkiller has left Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:53:41] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; digging in my own memory [2014-09-22 23:53:44] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I remember being like [2014-09-22 23:53:48] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh well then I don't do that [2014-09-22 23:53:49] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; They probably spent some time on updating compost bins, too. [2014-09-22 23:54:04] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; my tutorial was w3schools [2014-09-22 23:54:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; in fact, I'm not sure if I've ever tried the eval myself [2014-09-22 23:54:12] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; so yeah, i was pretty fucked [2014-09-22 23:54:12] &lt;Jlun2&gt; leeching kills iss fun [2014-09-22 23:54:14] &lt;AnselaJonla&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/index.php?diff=11482675&oldid=11482531 [2014-09-22 23:54:35] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; yeah well [2014-09-22 23:54:47] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; better start from scratch than with w3schools [2014-09-22 23:55:25] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but I generally don't use tutorials for anything more than just the basic syntax to get my first few lines going [2014-09-22 23:55:28] &lt;Jlun2&gt; why [2014-09-22 23:55:32] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; the rest is all a matter of spamming google [2014-09-22 23:55:49] &lt;Jlun2&gt; yea lol [2014-09-22 23:55:57] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; there was a book "fundamental C++" suggested by my university [2014-09-22 23:55:59] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well [2014-09-22 23:56:06] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; lol [2014-09-22 23:56:08] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; programming books [2014-09-22 23:56:10] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; f that I'm not wasting money on a book I'm not going to use [2014-09-22 23:56:12] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ikr [2014-09-22 23:56:12] -!- Spineweilder has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-22 23:56:12] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; like [2014-09-22 23:56:24] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; what is this, 2001? [2014-09-22 23:56:25] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I have a couple programming books. -_- [2014-09-22 23:56:30] &lt;Jlun2&gt; ^ [2014-09-22 23:56:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ooh [2014-09-22 23:56:36] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; those make for great fires [2014-09-22 23:56:37] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; It's not the content I have problems with [2014-09-22 23:56:38] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; http://i.imgur.com/FKKl0e9.png [2014-09-22 23:56:40] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; best use of a programming book [2014-09-22 23:56:40] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; but I mean like [2014-09-22 23:56:49] * Joeytje50 hates programming books [2014-09-22 23:56:54] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; that kind of content isn't suited to printed book form, I don't believe [2014-09-22 23:56:54] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; in case that wasn't clear :&gt; [2014-09-22 23:57:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ikr [2014-09-22 23:57:07] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; joey how many golden rocks have you found [2014-09-22 23:57:08] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; because iteration and change is incredibly rapid in this field [2014-09-22 23:57:13] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; and books can't change [2014-09-22 23:57:15] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; True story. [2014-09-22 23:57:17] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I don't get why people would ever want to waste such huge amounts of ink [2014-09-22 23:57:25] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; just to then have to type it all over on their screen [2014-09-22 23:57:33] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; when they could also keep it where it was: on the computer [2014-09-22 23:57:39] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; But one I had came with a floppy disk. [2014-09-22 23:57:42] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then use the all powerful COPYPASTA [2014-09-22 23:57:50] &lt;Spineweilder&gt; there's an NPC named Mod Elfborne [2014-09-22 23:57:52] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; mhmm, pasta [2014-09-22 23:57:52] &lt;Spineweilder&gt; literally [2014-09-22 23:57:56] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then there's the change yeah, matt [2014-09-22 23:58:03] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yeah. everything about the topic is computer-based. why not have it digital. [2014-09-22 23:58:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that's a whoooole other problem about books [2014-09-22 23:58:06] &lt;Jlun2&gt; agreed joey [2014-09-22 23:58:09] &lt;Spineweilder&gt; can only see once after getting title [2014-09-22 23:58:12] &lt;Kq_head&gt; mod elfbutt [2014-09-22 23:58:18] &lt;Jlun2&gt; my back hurted like hell carry those rock...er..books [2014-09-22 23:58:24] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; A lot of the stuff is still relevant, though. [2014-09-22 23:58:26] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Like [2014-09-22 23:58:30] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I have not seen one good reason to use books instead of online help for programming [2014-09-22 23:58:32] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; "Document your shiz." [2014-09-22 23:58:37] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; lol jlun [2014-09-22 23:58:59] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; well waffle: those are general programming things [2014-09-22 23:59:06] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; And I didn't have a computer to take to my class with me. [2014-09-22 23:59:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I can already do those general things [2014-09-22 23:59:12] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Oh. [2014-09-22 23:59:13] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; "document shit" will always be important but you don't need a book to tell you to document shit [2014-09-22 23:59:24] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; although you might have heard that commenting at the right time is still something I don't do really well [2014-09-22 23:59:32] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I don't, do I? [2014-09-22 23:59:35] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but no "please add comments" in a book is going to change that [2014-09-22 23:59:38] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; ok spine how do you get the title [2014-09-22 23:59:38] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; OH YEAH [2014-09-22 23:59:40] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; joey [2014-09-22 23:59:43] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i almost forgot [2014-09-22 23:59:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; OH [2014-09-22 23:59:52] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; end of line comments get a thumbs down from me [2014-09-22 23:59:58] &lt;Jlun2&gt; why cant they just give pdf file [2014-09-22 23:59:59] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; hmm? [2014-09-23 00:00:01] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Reset Time :) [2014-09-23 00:00:03] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; like which comment where [2014-09-23 00:00:20] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; can you link me to the awb script again [2014-09-23 00:00:32] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; there were plenty there [2014-09-23 00:00:33] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joeytje50/AWB.js new one I assume [2014-09-23 00:00:39] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yas [2014-09-23 00:00:54] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; $(this).next.attr('data-line',$(this).data('line')); //copy over current data-line for deleted lines to prevent them from messing up counting. [2014-09-23 00:00:59] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; put that comment on the line above [2014-09-23 00:01:04] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wat [2014-09-23 00:01:06] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but [2014-09-23 00:01:07] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; :o [2014-09-23 00:01:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ;_; [2014-09-23 00:01:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; there's no reason it needs to be on the same line, and having it on the same lines just makes it more cluttered [2014-09-23 00:01:20] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I do think that if the World Wide Web is an available resource, that would be superior to a book. [2014-09-23 00:01:29] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ^^^^ [2014-09-23 00:01:30] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; :D [2014-09-23 00:01:33] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Especially for information that is language specific. [2014-09-23 00:01:38] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; matt: ya ok, butbutbut [2014-09-23 00:01:51] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it's easier to tell people what you're doing *after* you're done typing it [2014-09-23 00:02:02] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; But books are still good for getting homework problems from or whatever. [2014-09-23 00:02:08] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then it's so much effort to press [HOME]//comment[ENTER] [2014-09-23 00:02:11] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ;_; [2014-09-23 00:02:21] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; a whole 2 EXTRA KEYPRESSES [2014-09-23 00:02:39] &lt;Jlun2&gt; spine [2014-09-23 00:02:41] &lt;Kq_head&gt; zweihander... more like, DIEHANDER [2014-09-23 00:02:46] &lt;Jlun2&gt; get diis of tradeable crystal items pls [2014-09-23 00:02:46] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I think it's better to tell people "i'm gonna do this" rather than "i just did this". even then, put the comment on the line below, then [2014-09-23 00:02:47] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wafflebb: still, they could very easily put them online and sell them as an e-book [2014-09-23 00:02:52] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; just don't have it on the same line [2014-09-23 00:02:56] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; so much clutter joey [2014-09-23 00:02:56] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; :&lt; [2014-09-23 00:03:20] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; They could. [2014-09-23 00:03:34] &lt;Jlun2&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Crystal [2014-09-23 00:03:35] &lt;Jlun2&gt; hey [2014-09-23 00:03:39] &lt;Jlun2&gt; am I missing any [2014-09-23 00:03:49] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; But they didn't do all that back in 1995 when the book is from. [2014-09-23 00:04:03] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but either way wafflebb: learning something is almost always easier to do it in exactly your own speed [2014-09-23 00:04:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I don't think I would ever spend money on anything resembling a programming tutorial [2014-09-23 00:04:18] -!- Cook Me Plox has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:04:20] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Yeah. Like reading Harry Potter. [2014-09-23 00:04:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; even for physics stuff for me it is easier to learn that stuff by finding it out myself and looking up answers to questions I don't know the answers [2014-09-23 00:04:41] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; to [2014-09-23 00:04:44] -!- Kq head has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:04:56] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then the formulas came later, after I understood why they worked that way [2014-09-23 00:05:10] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; so if it's true for something as theoretical as physics [2014-09-23 00:05:21] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it's especially true for something as practical as programming [2014-09-23 00:05:31] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I did take intro to principles of physics as an online class. [2014-09-23 00:05:31] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I guess the problem comes when you don't know the questions you don't know the answers to, Joey [2014-09-23 00:05:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; all you have to do there is simply RATATATATATA on your keyboard until you wanna do something you can't do yet [2014-09-23 00:05:45] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; and then you search for a way to do it [2014-09-23 00:06:08] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; And the answer is [2014-09-23 00:06:11] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; true yeah, but that's like with the sth['foo'] thing [2014-09-23 00:06:12] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; "Delete System32" [2014-09-23 00:06:18] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you'll find out afterwards [2014-09-23 00:06:20] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; always delete system32 [2014-09-23 00:06:21] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; nty [2014-09-23 00:06:35] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you didn't know you were supposed to look up how to do sth['foo'] [2014-09-23 00:06:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; but you turned out okay didn't you [2014-09-23 00:06:56] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; And there's this wiki chat. [2014-09-23 00:06:59] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; heh [2014-09-23 00:07:10] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Gaz knows all the questions that I need to know the answers to. [2014-09-23 00:07:16] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; lol [2014-09-23 00:07:20] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I've become very pro-node pro-coffeescript [2014-09-23 00:07:24] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; all admins do [2014-09-23 00:07:26] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; So I guess I've turned out alright [2014-09-23 00:07:29] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; I can ask him what the question is and then I can google that question and find the answer. [2014-09-23 00:07:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; most of em just don't wanna tell you the questions [2014-09-23 00:07:47] -!- Collin the Guardian Spook has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:07:50] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; part of becoming an admin is getting access to Special:MindRead [2014-09-23 00:08:01] &lt;Collin_the_Guardian_Spook&gt; there is a lot of new stuff to add because of the dang elf city [2014-09-23 00:08:13] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; Special:MindRead/Joeytje50 [2014-09-23 00:08:18] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; :o [2014-09-23 00:08:27] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you agreed not to use it on other admins [2014-09-23 00:08:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; &gt;:O [2014-09-23 00:08:44] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; it didn't work anyway http://www.foreffectivegov.org/files/info/images/replyhazy.jpg [2014-09-23 00:08:52] &lt;Jlun2&gt; congrts [2014-09-23 00:08:55] -!- TonyBest100 has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:09:00] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wut [2014-09-23 00:09:03] -!- TonyBest100 has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:09:05] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that means it did work matt [2014-09-23 00:09:06] &lt;Jlun2&gt; spine won skill outfit [2014-09-23 00:09:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that's what I was thinking [2014-09-23 00:09:15] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; oh [2014-09-23 00:09:16] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it's 2AM already [2014-09-23 00:09:19] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; what did you expect [2014-09-23 00:09:26] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh also [2014-09-23 00:09:26] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Prifddinas [2014-09-23 00:09:27] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; lol [2014-09-23 00:09:31] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; 20 September 2004 (Accessible 22 September 2014) (Update) [2014-09-23 00:09:31] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; it's 10 am tomorrow here [2014-09-23 00:09:34] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; are you mad [2014-09-23 00:09:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; exactly 10 years and 2 days [2014-09-23 00:10:00] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; actually no what am i saying [2014-09-23 00:10:03] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; you're dutch [2014-09-23 00:10:10] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; we're on the same day [2014-09-23 00:10:15] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; yea [2014-09-23 00:10:19] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; we are now [2014-09-23 00:10:32] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; you're even on the same day as UTC [2014-09-23 00:10:41] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; 0:10 AM UTC right now [2014-09-23 00:10:45] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; yes [2014-09-23 00:10:48] &lt;Jlun2&gt; coel [2014-09-23 00:10:49] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; so wat r u even sayin [2014-09-23 00:10:49] &lt;Jlun2&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:1_Corrupted_ore.png [2014-09-23 00:10:50] &lt;Jlun2&gt; delete pls [2014-09-23 00:10:54] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; we will be UTC+11 soon though [2014-09-23 00:10:55] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wat [2014-09-23 00:10:59] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; and then you'll be sorry [2014-09-23 00:11:08] -!- Joeytje50 has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:11:14] &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; joey pls [2014-09-23 00:11:17] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; what even is that image [2014-09-23 00:11:23] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; jlun y u even ask coel [2014-09-23 00:11:30] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; if there's 2 admins talkin rite then [2014-09-23 00:11:32] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; jlun [2014-09-23 00:11:33] &lt;Jlun2&gt; you're busy [2014-09-23 00:11:34] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; u think we're busy or sommin [2014-09-23 00:11:35] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; do you not like us [2014-09-23 00:11:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ^ [2014-09-23 00:11:39] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ya [2014-09-23 00:11:41] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; we like you jlun [2014-09-23 00:11:42] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ;_; [2014-09-23 00:11:46] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; jlun [2014-09-23 00:11:48] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; hug us [2014-09-23 00:11:50] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; #heartbroken\ [2014-09-23 00:11:54] * Joeytje50 opens arms for grouphuggle [2014-09-23 00:12:08] -!- AnselaJonla has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:12:09] * Joeytje50 huggles matt instead cus denied by jlun [2014-09-23 00:12:10] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ;_; [2014-09-23 00:12:27] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; matt we r gettin too old for this young generation [2014-09-23 00:12:35] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; our wisdoms aren't appreciated anymore [2014-09-23 00:12:48] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; 10 years is a long time to have waited for Elf City [2014-09-23 00:12:51] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; but it was worth it :P [2014-09-23 00:12:52] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ikr [2014-09-23 00:12:54] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; wat [2014-09-23 00:13:03] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it's not even an actual elf city [2014-09-23 00:13:07] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; I don't think we are in the same generation of admins Joey [2014-09-23 00:13:09] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; it's a gap with some bridges [2014-09-23 00:13:11] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; my rfa was early 2012 [2014-09-23 00:13:12] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Well, it's half an elf city :P [2014-09-23 00:13:14] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; when was yours? [2014-09-23 00:13:19] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; uh [2014-09-23 00:13:19] -!- Jlun2 has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:13:20] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; the other half is coming in November [2014-09-23 00:13:24] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; halfway 2011 I think [2014-09-23 00:13:29] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; RS:RFA [2014-09-23 00:13:30] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; what [2014-09-23 00:13:35] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; what [2014-09-23 00:13:44] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; i thought yours was a fair amount of time after me [2014-09-23 00:13:47] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; wat [2014-09-23 00:13:53] -!- Collin the Guardian Spook has left Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:13:55] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; oh ya [2014-09-23 00:13:58] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; halfway 2012 [2014-09-23 00:13:59] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Hmm, US vid offers don't want to load for me at all &gt;.&lt; [2014-09-23 00:14:03] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; eh [2014-09-23 00:14:10] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; still, may [2014-09-23 00:14:15] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; not that much diff [2014-09-23 00:14:18] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; whatever. even then, there have been so few rfas [2014-09-23 00:14:20] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; I'd say same generation [2014-09-23 00:14:34] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; a lot of people are probably in our generation [2014-09-23 00:14:44] &lt;Wafflebb&gt; Talkin' about my generation? [2014-09-23 00:14:52] -!- Funds has joined Special:Chat [2014-09-23 00:14:53] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; ya [2014-09-23 00:14:59] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; the generation of the programming books [2014-09-23 00:15:00] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; omg that was such a great show [2014-09-23 00:15:06] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; that's gonna be a big generation some day [2014-09-23 00:15:08] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; does anybody know that show [2014-09-23 00:15:12] &lt;Joeytje50&gt; what show [2014-09-23 00:15:28] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talkin'_'Bout_Your_Generation [2014-09-23 00:15:29] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Current SGS daily deal = Kalphite greathelm [2014-09-23 00:15:32] &lt;TonyBest100&gt; already own it [2014-09-23 00:15:34] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; it's australian so you wouldn't know it [2014-09-23 00:15:39] &lt;Matthew2602&gt; but it was 10/10 a+