Talk:Meg/Archive 1

Answers are RELATIVE!
Ok so I know new posts normally go at the bottom but I figured I'd stick this at the top cos it's important and people are more likely to see it that way.

Based on answers I've given and what I;ve got from reading the page here and the actual wiki page it's seems clear to me that the answers are relative to each other. So instead of noting down which answer is perfect and which aren't we need to note down the answers like this: Answer 1 > Answer 2 > Answer 3 etc.

We also need to make some sort of table that allows people to record the questiosn they had and the 3-4 answers for each question as well as which one they actually picked. Then people only post the results if they got a small or huge xp lamp.

The table could be something like:

Q1... Q2... With the answer you picked being bolded out of the 4 possible answers. With a separate page listing Each question with all possible answers the answers could gradually be ordered until complete then we can copy the table onto this main Meg page.
 * A1..
 * A2...
 * A3...
 * A4...
 * A1... etc.

Over time it should be possible to collect enough data that you can figure out which answers are better than others. I'd do it myself but I have absolutely no idea how to make new pages or tables. If someone does make one post a link to the page here so we all know where it is.

Thanks

[[User:04ismailjj6|04ismailjj6 (talk) 17:59, February 3, 2013 (UTC)]] 12:44, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

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The page says that it is for skills required for player owned portals but are under 90; that isn't true, I received a hunter lamp.

Discussion on Lamp Rewards
In my reward box was a couple thousand coins and a small? lamp (it was grey). She expressed that she was sorry because apparently I gave her bad advice. (It's weird that she would apologize for my mistakes!) Anyway, the lamp gave me ~17k xp in Runecrafting. I have 99 Runecrafting, and 90+ in all skills. It is a shame that the reward couldn't have been in a skill that wasn't already 99. For example, I only have 93 Thieving. 03:20, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I apparently didn't help her much either, but I got around 8k coins and a medium Hunter lamp, which awarded me around 12k Hunter xp. I did add small and medium lamps to the list of rewards and I added a little snippit to the end of the description where it claims the lamps give xp in POP-specific skills. I just wanted to clear things up that the lamps aren't limited to just those few skills. Wisemeat (talk) 03:45, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * i gave her good advice i got 19,700 coins and a large slayer lamp 01:25, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just a theory, but could it be that she gives a small lamp for none correct, medium for one correct, large for two correct and huge for all correct? Sundays211 (talk) 01:33, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I also got hunter xp. But wiki does not list that we can get hunter xp as a reward.  - Robertsmom 70.24.207.206 03:35, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion about correct answers
Are we going to post all her questions and the correct answers for max exp?

Personally I just answered her whatever seemed the most accurate to me and got a 21k Fishing lamp.

Tallibear (talk) 14:39, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking that there is a 'best' answer, and so we just need to figure them out. We can start by listing all the questions (and possible answers) that we get and eventually we will be able to work out which answer is the best. I made a section and I think now that it's there, users will start to fill it in. We may have to wait until the next week before we get updates, which is fine. 17:38, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I also want to note that I got some repeat questions the second week and I'm unsure if this is because I got it wrong the first week or if I just randomly got it again. I know I got some wrong the first week because I only received a small lamp as a reward. Also, some of my questions had four possible answers, while some had only three choices. I thought that the first week all of mine had four choices, so I'm wondering if the repeat question had eliminated the answer that I used last week because it wasn't the right answer. I wish I could remember better. 17:38, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * My question is about the demon fish. 4 answers.
 * 1)start small
 * 2)be calm and don't panic
 * 3)make sure rod is secure
 * 4)why not ask for help (selected this)
 * fastest way to tranvel. 3 answer.
 * I selected go by foot
 * pick door 3 answer
 * I selected use good lock pick
 * report result tomorrow


 * Hi! I think this is a great idea but we must be POSITIVE about the correct answers. The only way to be 100% sure that the answers are correct is to have her not say anything about any of your advice being bad when you collect your rewards.


 * For example, Day 1 you answer the questions and record your answers.
 * Day 2 you collect your rewards, and listen to what she says. If she says something like "Most of the advice you gave me was great! There were only a few small problems..." DISCARD your answers. The only way we can be positive is if she doesn't say anything about problems.


 * N1ghtshade3 (talk)
 * That's great guys, and I've figured something out; every question, there are 3 or 4 available answers. I found out that she has quite 3 different responses (something along this line):
 * ~ "WOW! This is great! I haven't thought of that, I will definitely try that!" (With her head moving as she's shouting) - this is possible the best.
 * ~ "That seems right, I will surely try that next time. (being neutral) - average
 * ~ "Hmm...That seems pretty weird thing to do, but you're the expert, I'll try that." (being pretty much sad) - bad
 * ~ "Hmm...That seems pretty weird thing to do, but you're the expert, I'll try that." (being pretty much sad) - bad


 * I think we can define the correct response by these, or just by posting all the questions and the answers we get. Tallibear (talk) 12:40, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree that we need to get more data. In addition, for now we're better off just listing the answers and maybe note any obviously incorrect ones. As is, we're presenting wild guesses in many cases. Does there need to be a data gathering page or table?


 * (My first week did not go well but I didn't record questions and answers. Here's what I gave for week 2:
 * How to get a baby squirrel pet? Answers (a) be patient and use more than one net. (b) Be careful, they can scratch. (c) Try to catch one with a hawk. (d) deadfall traps work better than nets. Answered (a) and got an enthusiastic response.


 * How to enchant a sword with runes? Answers (a) go to wizard's tower; (b) you'll need an enchantment spell; (c) enchanting doesn't work that way. Answered (c) and got a very tepid response.


 * I might get some loot from scurvy seadogs. How to carry it off? Answers (a) Take the most valuable pieces; (b) get a big, sturdy bag; (c) don't be greedy, take what you need. I answered (b) per the page but suspect the best answer is (a). Response was medium.
 * Haystacks (talk) 03:13, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

The way she reacted to the answers you gave seems to have nothing to do with the result, I got 100% this week with fairly mixed facial expressions from her. Jagex named me Able Tis (talk) 03:15, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm really starting to think the answers you give don't actually make any difference.--Big Bouffant (talk) 06:12, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I like the experiment about reactions and will ignore them next time. Big Bouffant, I hope that [answers don't make a difference] isn't the case. That would be very lazy on Jagex part.


 * People who are putting things like "If this option doesn't appear, try X option" - Surely that would mean that any answer that doesn't always appear is incorrect? Or are we now taking this to mean that there can be more than one "best" answer? MenaphosRS (talk) 11:35, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sometimes the answers may be ambiguous but other times some are clearly right and others clearly wrong. In my squirrel question today, "have patience and use more than one net" is good, correct game advice, but so are the comments about nuts and the suggestion to "make sure you have a good summoning level". On the other hand, if she wants a live squirrel pet (not a zombie one), neither hawks nor a deadfall trap is a good way to catch one.
 * Haystacks (talk) 06:30, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Last week I went to Meg and opened Rs wiki, and answered all the questions, while looking in rs wiki, and choosing "correct" answers. Today I went to meg, and all I got was small xp lamp... Your information guys is really not correct. Pupicucek (talk) 12:19, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, that's why there are liberal disclaimers and a topic below for people to record results. The problem is that it takes a week to get feedback and even then, if you didn't get a small lamp (presumably: all wrong) or a huge lamp (presumably: all right) it's like a very slow game of Mastermind.
 * You can help by recording your answers each week and then the result, then adding data to this discussion page. That would be particularly beneficial if you had either the small or huge lamps.
 * Haystacks (talk) 02:26, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I had same experience as Pupicucek above. What if we go about this wrong and the algorithm is more complex then just right or wrong answer? Since the same question can have different number of answers to choose from, could it be that there is no "correct" answer at all? What I mean is the correctness of an answer is relative - to get it right we must choose "best" from the offered, which can be completely wrong next week if "better" option becomes available? Kana. 16:09, January 30, 2013 (UTC)