Talk:Blood Runs Deep

LMFAO I did throne of misc as a chick-- the quest was HILARIOUS! I marriaged brand as a guy, we kissed, and everything! ROFLLLLLLLL

I think it is a master quest. --Silv3rlining 16:19, December 15, 2009 (UTC)Silv3rl1ning

Dang, i just got quest cape too =/ --Kyronwashere 16:26, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Finally some unbelieveable ninja Fremennik action... I think I'm going to like this quest. 16:40, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Forgot to say, I especially like the "hundreds of thousand of XP" in the newspost. =P 16:44, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

You can't pot slayer to do this quest --Will14smith 16:42, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

A big lot of combat required lol, and the reward also hold a shortcut to the dagganoth kings, making it possible to solo the dagganoth kings, since you don't need two persons to get there anymore Lpfreaky90 2 17:13, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

how much xp do you get?

I don't know, I haven't been able to finish this quest, and I can't finish it either atm, have to do some other things (btw, you forgot to sign your post) Lpfreaky90 2 17:23, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Boosting
Is it possible to boost Slayer/Strength/Attack? I'm hoping not, but it would be good to get confirmation. Thanks. Small090 17:23, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've read on the forums that players have attempted to boost their strength and attack, it does not work. Rather obvious since you can raise those a good 20 some levels. As the poster above stated, you can't boost slayer for it either. -- 17:32, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. :) Small090 17:46, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wait a sec...
In the trivia section, there's a curious bit. "BATTLE IN RELLEKKA"?!? Oh, *loljagexcensorlol*!!!!!

Guards
Before the final battle against the dagganoth mother, you have to defeat her guards. This is quite hard, as they keep healing each other. I got them down by alternately attacking one, then the other, then the first again etc, with the new axe.

--Iavirissa 18:33, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Judging from previous quests, I suspect there's a clever way to do it, rather than just brute force. I noticed that when I attacked one and my familiar the other, only the one I was attacking got healed. Maybe someone could try poisoning one and attacking the other? Stewbasic 18:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Poison does work to lower their hp, but I had to brute force them in the end. I'm sure there is a clever way, I just didn't find it.Penderwyll 19:41, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

cannon? or maby use the curses? idea, if a cannon can be used wear full dhide setup cannon and reflect mele and try a smoke devil familure? ~deathmock5

If you alternate between them every few hits they don't heal. --24.17.203.104 20:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Use whip or a fast hitting weapon. Hit one once, then the other once, then the first, then the other, etc. etc. etc. They wont heal then. 20:55, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

-- i found that the easiest way to kill these guys is to just equip either strong range defence or strong mage defence, then pray whichever one you aren't wearing. If you are planning on going directly to the mother afterward without stopping at a bank, then wear a good balance of both, but pray in whichever you are weakest at. Every couple of successful hits, I switched to the other Dagannoth. They hardly hit me at all and they both died fairly quickly. The mother was a lot more difficult. -- EmperorITNE 04:54, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Dagannoth Mother
What do you do to get past her? --Cahoszerox 19:46, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

The daganoth mother can be defeated in the same way as the one from the lighthouse quest. green for range, orange for melee, blue, brown, red and white for the elemental spells. I prayed against melee, as she hits hardest with that, and didnt switch prayers.

--Iavirissa 19:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Good news, if you die while fighting the mother you go to the place you died when the boulders fell on you and you can teleport to the spot right after the enterance to the maze from the room with the 2 healing dagganoths --Cahoszerox 20:16, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Why does it say that you should stand next to her? I died like 5 times trying that. She still has the same attack pattern when you stand farther away, not randomly, plus, then she can't melee you. Editing the article.-- Long Live Armadyl   02:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think we need a more solid description of what items to take / wear to Dagannoth Mother. It is a bit too specific as it is right now, and it looks a bit cheesy with the capital letters (like "MELEE", "VERY INEFFECTIVE" etc). I suggest changing it to something more neutral, like: -Suggested Equipment: - High mage defence body + range bonus - High mage defence legs + range bonus - Amulet of Fury/Glory - Prayer book (really, it is too much work to have something in the shield slot with all the weapon switching) - high defence boots with no ranged or mage penalties - high defence helmet which does not take away from ranged or mage - God Cape / Skill cape / obsidian / legends, etc - Balmung (required to first attack mother) Inventory: - Rune Crossbow / Crystal bow / Dark Bow - Broad Bolts - A magic staff of any type (not required) - 3x Prayer Potion - All Elemental Waves (at least 100 charges - just to be safe) - Super Defence Potion - Familiar Pouch (Beast of burden/Healing Familiar) - High healing food..... I'm not saying my ideas are the best, but I dont think the ones up there currently reflect more than maybe 1 or 2 people's ideas. For something as significant as the boss of the quest, I think it should be more of a group effort to determine what the best route of killing the thing is. Any suggestions? -- EmperorITNE 05:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree The melee was very good vs the mother i used it on her and im level 135 - it was doing more DPS then the magic attacks (using the axe) also i think that it should be noted you need atleast 100 + casts of your mage shots especialy if your using some gear that is going to cause you to splash alot i brought 150 (99 mage here) and i was only left with 10 right before she died--Onehandsolo 08:17, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

DK Shortcut
Until someone can provide proof that one exists and where it is, I will be removing that information. I went back through the quest dungeon, and there is no shortcut. The river area used during the quest does not have an option to travel through after the quest, as far as I can tell. Cheers, Penderwyll 19:41, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Rewards
http://imgur.com/qfS8Y.jpg I can confirm that the combat XP can be applied to Attack, Strength, Defence, Range, Magic, Hitpoints, and Prayer. Fxrw 19:49, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

You get two dagganoth bones from defeating the guardians. Since these are the second highest experience giving bone, maybe they should be added to the rewards?

--Iavirissa 23:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Walaski Wallasalkies
Don't they attack with magic during the quest, and not attack with range like it says in the guide? 23:55, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep. I'll fix it if it hasn't already been fixed. 00:34, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Part of walkthrough deleted?
Why was the part of the walkthrough up to 'The Dream' deleted? I saw it earlier but now that I'm going to start the quest it's gone! I'd be more confused than usual if I hadn't seen it earlier... Inelcirc 01:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Incredibly weird glitch
After defeating the mother, when you go back out and see that the prince and princess are dead, an amusing glitch happens. If, during throne of miscellania, you were a female character, and were thus engaged to Prince Brand and then siwtched sexes to become a male player, the chat when investigating Bran'ds body is the same as it would be if the player did not siwtch sexes. So in essence, you can become a homosexual in the game. Also, if you had switched genders, the wedding scene does not take place, meaning that it is likely a glitch and not an intentional thing by Jagex.

Also, a map of the maze-area should be uploaded, as the tunnel can be a little tricky to find for some players. Vlastne 03:32, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

- I added a map, is that the one you're talking about? -- EmperorITNE 04:56, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks a bunch :) Vlastne 05:10, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

quest cape
aww i thought i could almost get a quest cape just a few more skills for quest and bang another quest which raises needed levels up, hopefully the quest cape will become a real ACCOMPLISHMENT

04:28, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oooh... Trust me, it IS a real accomplishment. O_o I've done WGS. I've seen the battles there. I've EASILY beaten 'em all up. This quest? I died once. I *nearly* died three times, not to mention the three times I had to escort Vargas... This quest? It deserves the Grandmaster category more than WGS. BUT, there is a but to this... It's a horrible quest. Fight, fight, fight, fight and somewhere between the battles there is this little bit of storyline going on... I didn't get to enjoy the storyline between all the hard and sometimes frustrating battles. To me, quests are about storyline. I hated this quest. 07:05, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Quest start
We start with a dream? Instantly? That is a horrible beginning, but I haven't done it so I can't write it.--Degenret01 07:18, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Double Death glitch
I added a new glitch i found in the quest once you kill the mother and go up back to the boat

If you dont examine any of the bodys it will shoot you back out into relekka showing the cutscene of the people dying but then you must go back down to finish the quest - talk to the bodys

thus causing the cutscene to be played twice--Onehandsolo 08:14, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Formatting
The layout of the whole article is a nightmare... It needs to be corrected. :o Actually, the whole WYSIWYG editor is rather glitched. Wikia has released a new version, why isn't it used on this site? The layout constantly goes out of order. Using the editor itself is nearly impossible, I write most of my stuff in wikimarkup. It's just horribly glitchy... 09:03, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

clan/armour suggestion
what the suggested way to get through the second room as it is the longest? is there a clan to distract them? and what armour is best? 10:02, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Which second room? 10:58, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Dagannoth Mother
LMAO. I first took on the Dagannoth Mother last night and her stripe was grey. Used up half my Rocktails and didn't realise I had to hit her with Balmung before I could find out what her weakness was. (it wasn't mentioned here at the time) I had no teleports and diededed. ;[ 11:23, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * GF! ;P 11:29, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I accidentally pressed F1 and it took me to web browser's help >.< Obviously I died, but I respawned outside Mother's lair, on my gravestone... I assume this shouldn't happen? 14:04, December 16, 2009 (UTC)