User talk:Haloolah123/Archive 5

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O hi thur
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8443/haybeniceemokittehissen.jpg Say bye bye to your empty talk page >:-) 23:36, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:ABF
I said it because it is a valid concern. Tons of people view getting adminsip as some sort of trophy (you obviously know this), and having adminsip across a number of wikis can absolutely be a sign of that. Sure, sometimes it is just because the person is a good editor, but in this case I had plenty of reason to suspect otherwise. From the start, the way he interacted with our community suggested that he felt superior due to his experience as a sysop on other wikis, which is what caused my suspicion in the first place. Also, why would he basically tell us all to go to hell, and then work his way back up the ranks so that he could have a go at adminship? I'm not assuming bad faith, I'm giving my opinion based on my observations. -- 00:43, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Forum:Clan chat rants channel
Since when were non-admins allowed to close threads? Or are the rules different in RS:CCC. OR is it just bacause the proposal was "lunacy". 00:37, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Forum:Image hover text being listed on RuneScape:To do list
Just to let you know i've removed the item from the to-do list for the simple reason that it was not brought to consensus. However, just because consensus was not attained on the matter does not mean it has to be thrown to the side. I have seen suggestions that do not make consensus resubmitted with either different criteria or with at least a little fine-tuning of the objective's scope/focus in order that such idea can more easily obtain the necessary consensus to move forward. If you are sincere about this (which i believe you are since you did add it to the RS:TDL), then please consider resubmitting a refined version of this to the forums. Note, however I highly recommend not being hasty about it. Hastily resubmitted ideas often fall short of consensus the second time around and are then pushed back even further on the timeline (the wiki's logo is one such example, imo). With fresh perspective and clarity your vision can come to fruition. 23:44, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * ..."no consensus to use hover text" does not imply that there is "consensus not to use it". i was on wikibreak when this row started and i refuse to pick a side. seriously, i'm not the enemy here could you work with me on this?  00:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * True, i was not involved in the discussion, which is why i have asked Andrew to clarify if his declaration of closure of the topic was implicative of removal of all infobox alt tags. Alt tags are not necessarily useless, I use linux and as such i occasionally use the lynx browser. There are no images inside of a text terminal, where lynx runs, however alt tags that are thought out can be quite helpful. As a verbose example, if i saw "click to see Image:Orange.png" in place of the actual image i have a good idea what i will see if i follow that link in lynx.  /The only thing i am certain of is that i do not know everything, so, maybe you could share with me a better understanding of the issue as you see it.  01:21, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * At one point in time in this wiki, the images associated with items (like the whip) had gotten to point of having between 1 and 4 images on average in the article. In the infobox template was the item as it appeared in inventory. Next to the Stats template was often a picture of a player wielding or wearing the item (as applicable).  When available a more detailed image was placed at the very start of the article in the upper left corner. And the 4th image was an animated image of the special effect of the item, usually appearing below the infobox.  All four images are relevant, perhaps a more concise style guide needs to be made for how items, shops, and NPCs present their graphical information, including the meta-data about the graphics.  That way users that block the images can actually get a better wiki experience (regardless of whether those images are blocked by their browser or by wikia preferences). That would be the best way to seek the change i believe you are looking for.  01:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dungeoneering floors
I'm aware the occult section should of been removed as it was based on a present tense... But why exactly is the warped floors section getting removed? It is a CONFIRMED future update in one of the Q&As and therefore warrants the ability to stay... 13:43, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Bullet points
Hey, I have noticed your recent "campaign" against the use of bullet points in the Wiki. While I don't share any particular liking for bullet points, and wouldn't really care for Yew Grove threads/RfDs/etc using bullet points, I personally prefer to keep it consistent for whichever project page it is on. Would you care to elaborate on your reasons for not allowing your comments to have bullet points be added to them? Not to call you out or anything of the sort, but I'd certainly be interested to hear your reasoning. Cheers. 14:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I find it a bit of an eyesore to have a non-bulleted point follow a bulleted point, before being followed by another bulleted point. It makes the discussion look disorderly IMO. In any case, since this seems to be mainly a personal dislike of seeing bulleted points in the discussion, would you object to my adding of bulleted points when archiving the discussions? As the idiom goes, out of sight, out of mind. 14:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's more of a pet peeve of mine than anything of a big deal, the same of which can probably be said to your dislike of bullet points. You don't have to add them in if you still rather not see them, although whether or not you'd mind if I added them in while archiving is the question I'm asking. 14:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 14:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Forum:Modification of RS:BOTS - Relating to AWB use
blah blah blah, details, ALWAYS focused on the details... 05:00, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Block
There's still some hope left. When I was younger, me and some kids at school would vandalise Wikipedia articles for fun. Now I have contributions here. There's always some hope. 16:38, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose the Detroit Lions aren't very good? Maybe it's better not to use such American examples when the person you're talking to is European Anyway, I think that s/h/it still deserves a chance. Everyone deserves a second chance.  16:46, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * He's probably already forgotten about the RSW by then, and we've lost a potential good contributor. 16:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do think that the chance of him becoming a good contributor would've been higher if he hadn't been blocked but only warned. 16:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Link to RuneScape.com
I really don't think you should have closed that. Policy states that only admins may close discussions. Also, this isn't the first time. 06:57, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's fine; as long as the consensus is clear, I doubt many people are going to complain. 13:20, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you should stop closing forum threads. Its a useless gesture, since an admin still has to come and protect it, so its not like you save us work. More importantly, it sends mixed messages to other people. Only admins should close threads. If you think something should be closed, just post it on an admin's talk or on rs:ar or use Closure. But closing it yourself is not appropriate. Thanks, 01:33, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't take anything you said personally, but you appear to have done so. This is not about whether or not you are a good judge of when a thread is ready to be closed, its about not making needless exceptions to a policy which states quite clearly that only admins can close threads. Not applying that policy consistently is confusing to users and nullifies any point to making the policy in the first place. If you think the policy should be changed, feel free to make a yew grove thread about it, however until it is changed, you cannot close yew grove threads. 01:54, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can't close threads. You're not capable of protecting them as part of the closing process. So there is no reason for you to try to close them, especially when there are so many other ways of contacting an admin to get them to close it instead. Doing so is a confusing gesture that serves no practical purpose. As such if you were really going to use common sense, you would not close them. Again I'll say it, you cannot close threads, unless you go to the yew grove and consensus says you can. I'm really quite shocked that you're arguing it this much as its plainly obvious that you shouldn't be doing it. 02:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are dismissing what I am suggesting because it is one man's opinion, yet at least 3 other people have ALSO told you that you shouldn't be closing threads, and furthermore you are declining the opportunity to get many more opinions on what you are doing because you think you have the clairvoyance to predict exactly what the outcome will be? I find that extremely illogical. 16:59, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to get involved in a debate between two other users, though I have mentioned all this to you before. A point that has not been brought up yet is that thread closure is an administrative task just as much as deletions, bans, and file moves are. The only difference is one can be done without the tools themselves, and the rest require them. None of us appear to be questioning your judgment, but the problem still arises that we are showing users we don't enforce the fact that only admins can close threads, meaning they are free to do it. RS:UCS should not be applied the way you are applying it. This is because if we allowed all users to close threads under UCS, it would completely defeat the purpose of the statement in RS:CONSENSUS to the point that we would have to remove it all together (and, at the same time, would be equatable to making all the administrative user rights global). Again, I am not questioning your judgment, and I respect you as a person and editor, but you need to stop closing threads. If you are unsatisfied, feel free to suggest the change on the Yew Grove. Thanks. 21:01, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since asking for input from the community at large seems to be such a minor point with you, I have taken the liberty of creating the thread for you, and you can find it here. I realise that asking the community what they think of you doing what you're doing, especially when it violates an existing policy, is just a huge waste of time, I have chosen to do so anyways. You see it is impossible to waste my time, because my time is worthless. 01:44, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Cryptic
That sucks. It happened to me today where I could get to the lobby but couldn't log in. I just had to refresh it a couple times. Anyway, I still have the stuff, so whenever you need it... 19:49, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Read what I wrote here.  10:37, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

UOTM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT, Thanks for the nom :D 09:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rollback
What I'm more concerned about is the fact that users have no idea what the requirements are and what they need to do to request rollback. It wouldn't be too big of an issue if the crats were very active, but that's not the case. The template is just extra since I've already moved it into a central location. 20:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Helper tag
Yeah, it has recently been added by Wikia. I don't know if I should use it here though, as it's main goal is to inform people about helpers on new wiki's where the Gaming Team offers it's help building content. 19:20, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would've been better. 19:30, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Looking back
This seems to be such a long time ago. Your edit count has progressed quite a lot since then. 20:37, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be great. Thanks! Don't forget that the perception of crats differs quite a bit from the perception of sysops. 21:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Defining rollbacks
That was a joke, smart one. Defining rollback was a joke from Sentra. And don't be stupid, oversight, staff, helpers, VSTF, and facebook connect users will never need "defining". I am defining IP's. Many users think IP's are all vandals and non-contributors, I intend to clarify this. 00:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Think about this: Do you check IP edits more than registered users? 05:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * That was to Halo, right? 06:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * That was a joke Halo, having a defining rollbacks would just be a waste. 06:26, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * @222:Yes it was.  06:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The cc
Did you tell people that they have to be part of the wiki to be in the cc? A player said someone name "'halolohooo' or something similar" said so. Was this you, you little troll? 02:04, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Random thing
Hey Hal, if you were to file a third RfA, would you want to be hilited if that request passed? Just curious; your answer will not effect my opinion on you in any way. Thanks, 18:07, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

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22:37, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Abortion
I couldn't have said it better myself. 02:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Images help
Hey Halo, since you have a high dungeoneering level, can you take a picture (with OOO) for Haasghenahk's first and second form? And maybe the spawns too? I think many people will appreciate that, because the spawns image is too small, and the images I uploaded are blurry..-.- Again, if you can, take a pic of Haasghenahk's 1st form and 2nd form, and the spawns. Thanks! 20:23, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

DBP
So, it's going to open soon. Are you still up for writing that perception/AEAE piece? 22:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

200 million experience
May I ask why you undid my revision? 01:25, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

UOTM
You've been nominated for UOTM. 01:13, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * You deserve it as much/more than I do :) Gl to you, though a draw would be way cool. 15:46, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Inappropriate closure of thread
I didn't actually pay that much attention to the entry requirements. If you have a better suggestion, tell me and I'll change it. 02:46, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Grats!  22:15, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

hai
bold makes it look like you are angrier :o 16:28, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16:36, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

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congrats 2 u sir 22:24, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

FIMG nom
A image has been changed. You might maybe want to reconsider your vote. 10:49, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your sig might be improperly set up
May I ask what code is in the "custom signature" section of your preferences? 01:22, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? 02:13, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's just that I saw a page where you had signed with User:Haloolah123/Sig instead of Template:Signatures/Haloolah123... 04:44, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Wikicapes
I completely disagree with you. The idea of wikicapes is to have fun. Also, if we do not have an agreement on that, I'm removing that sentence. Community doesn't want things like that? Fine, they can oppose the cape itself or create a yg thread on it to stop capes like failcape. 16:26, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just answer me this, do we have consensus on that? Because if not, people can just go oppose the capes on the requests page, but you can't just go ahead and put what you think about them on the requests page. I don't know who wrote that, but they should be aware that they do not rule the wiki. 16:35, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I completely disagree with you. What passed in that thread was adding some wikicapes, and having a requests page for newer ones. Steler/Chicken might have been the "project leaders" but that still doesn't mean whatever they say gets applied on wikicapes unless consensus is achieved otherwise. Anything that isn't specifically discussed isn't banned, unless it violates rs:ucs somehow, and in this case, it certainly doesn't. 16:46, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * What I'm saying is that I do not need a yg thread to do it, there is no consensus to have it the way you want it, and I already went ahead and removed it. So, you are the one supposed to go "bitch at" yg if you don't like it. 16:51, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday
(Slightly early) Enjoy the day! 23:27, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday
Happy birthday, mate  03:57, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

College
You're disappearing for quite a while at a time. I actually see your college's name pop up quite frequently nowadays. Brown (the one in Rhode Island) happens to be one of the colleges that I'm applying to, and every time I search "Brown", your college also pops up. Just an interesting aside. 22:52, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Category:Images
Yes, i do that most times, but in this case, i didn't know what category i should choose, so i selected "Unknown category". I think there should be made a category in Special:Upload that you can select "Category:Interface images", which isn't there at the moment. 20:20, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Article Deletion
Why did you delete my Players' Cult of Zaros page. It's an actual group.

Re:
If you stop being so negative and believe good things can happen, then maybe [they] just might 05:55, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Editing Userpages
Oh. Thank you much. The clueless one praises you. o_o

TLUL letter response
The response is up. User:Matthew2602/Letter to wikia about TLUL 05:41, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

plz help me
i have looked all over the web and have not found 1 good money making guide without the risk of me dying, im close to a whip and can not get 1 plz help me

:D
I lol'd. 13:51, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Idk what happened here, but I didn't do that edit. It wasn't working properly, so I just clicked edit and saved it without changing anything to have it purged. Another bug perhaps? 15:58, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

re:agf
ok, but i think that if he does one more step in the wrong direction he should be blocked. 18:12, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

It's just annoying, that people delete things and not impove my things because I'm not good at making sentences in English. I told him he sucked in my opinion, not that he sucks.
 * Please don't remove the discussion of your last rfa. 21:41, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

This whole court is out of order!
Are you saying that you're a druggie?

P.S. we got a real politician in the section above. 20:57, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Ikin's talk page
Yes, unfortunately, most of the buttons aside from user page and part of discussion are blocked for me, preventing access to the functions they provide such as viewing the user page's history, editing it (only when RS:DEU allows, of course), and also moving/following it. I know that I personally would not have any use for most of them except for user page, discussion, and perhaps history, but that is no excuse for her to block them regardless, even though I suspect that this time they were accidentally blocked. Perhaps Ikin could solve this problem by putting the quoted text somewhere else instead of at the top of the viewed contents of the page? That would nip any future instances of not being able to click on the system links at the top of the page in the bud. 02:21, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Vandals
Touche. 04:41, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gratz
Gratz to you too :) 08:56, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Special:MergeHistory
okay, i'm confused, why are you referring this to me and what types of things would be best to have merged history? 17:03, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * okies =) thanks hon 17:10, November 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. -- 19:21, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hey!
You're not registered as a talk page stalker. Now go to the licensing department and get certified before stalking. 18:34, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Easier way to merge page history
I'll have to remember to use Special:MergeHistory instead of deleting articles and screwing them up. :O Thanks for the message! -- 19:22, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Yk'Lagor
Sorry gramps I wont call you s0n anymore, l2takeajoke.

You have some guts to say that while having 87 Dungeoneering; following your logic we can assume K'ril Tsutsaroth is a Kal'Gerion general too. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9972/10791523.png

Ok, GO! ScionCrush 23:08, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Leader - Kal'Ger

General - ???

General - Bal'Lak

General - ???

General - To'Kash

General - Har'Lakk

Commander(?) - Yk'Lagor

Leutenant - Black demon

THOSE are ranks, you are missunderstanding information, High rank doesnt necesarely means to be a General, telling "points to" without confirming means you're adding speculation, and this Wiki is NOT for speculation. ScionCrush 00:20, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

If it nots mentioned anywhere, if its not comfirmed, if it cant be comfirmed, then its speculation, whe got the Journals that comfirm they are are Generals but it just says hes high ranked, again with your logic we can assume K'ril Tsutsaroth is a General too! He has simiral name, its an insanely powerful demon, and it was summoned by Bilrach too! I know where your anylisis comes from, it has a fund but it cannot be comfirmed. ScionCrush 00:32, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

The adjetive only describes what they do, it would be really odd to have Yk'Lagor Keztzech or To'Kash Sutrlak dont you think? Because how demon mithology says, names have power; However to get to an agreement, don't you think it could be better not to add this until we get an official comfirmation from Jagex? Warped floors will probably come out tomorrow so they will be checking the forums, I will be at school sadly. ScionCrush 00:51, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE:200MXP
Yeah, I see what you mean. It's no use having the name linked if it's not the current name. 05:12, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

CSS/JS issues
I can't say for sure why that would happen. My guess is that, at least for CSS, some of the names of the objects are different for monobook than monaco. I'm not exactly an expert at either CSS or JS, so you might be better off asking someone else. 21:13, November 11, 2010 (UTC)