Talk:Artisans Workshop

New
i added tivia and im kinda new so i dont know how to put the line under it like all the other trivias on this website sorry:\

Respect
Anyone know what's the best rates so far? 09:50, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * You gain 1% respect for every 15k exp gained, apparently. So, whatever you can do for the best exp/hr will give you the best respect rate. BreakIt 10:39, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * According to http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,841,62517455, you get 1% every 10k exp. Also, fixing pipes and killing ancestors boosts your respect.

wrong title
its artisan workshop, check the map


 * yes the unsigned person is correct! lose the 'S'.Leon Art 17:52, March 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, in the RS Knowledge base it is called 'Artisans Workshop', so the title is correct as it is. Dimchord 12:53, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Criticism
Using your ores (mined or bought) is a 100% loss of all profits. The xp rate is not that great. Making tracks is extremely tedious, and slow, and you get no profit from your smithing xp. Smelting bars of steel or silver still remains the best balance for speed and profit.
 * Except that gold smithing is the most efficient. 71.65.217.227 17:21, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The activity seems to be aimed at people who are willing to just spend their money on xp, sure. But remember that this discussion page is more about the article, less about the activity itself (unless it contributes to the article). -- 22:17, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wrong about ceremonial swords
The info is completely wrong about ceremonial swords. It is good xp if you know how to make them and you can get far more than 5 perfect swords per 100. With 91 smith I can consistantly get over 90% and get 100% 20% of the time at least.86.177.34.125 18:17, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Infact now I get over 95% and get 100% alot of the time. I managed 3 perfect swords in a row. Once you perfect the making it can become great xp.86.177.34.125 19:06, March 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * The statement about which you're commenting was not RS:NPOV and has been edited away (before me). What I find inaccurate is Jagex's documentation about how much xp is awarded. I've only tried a handful of iron swords so far, but I get a maximum of 2700 xp at 100%, not 3242 xp as Jagex claims. I suspect that any major differences are first-week bugs and that their published numbers are the intended values. I'll try other metals later (maybe after the xp weekend). -- 22:03, March 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe the table Jagex is using for the Ceremonial swords xp in comparison to regular smithing is incorrect. It states for break even preformance you need 87% completion of the sword, stating the normal xp for this amount of iron (smithing and smelting) is 2812.5. I have completed the sword at 96% only to recieve 2594 xp. It seems like they are assuming you will always have your dedudctions taken from that 120% reward you get for completing it perfectly, as even getting only 1 mistake still gets less xp than smithing and smelting would. I hope it is a bug they correct, because they are using this graph to encourage us to make these swords, when in fact not only are we losing out on any product from the ore, we are also losing out on xp.  It is much faster than conventional means, but that isn't how they are marketing it.
 * I've changed the numbers used in that table to take into account the 20% bonus. I think these numbers are better. (Of course, that's why I changed them.) As users experiment, let's see if these numbers are more accurate. I still need to do more experimentation myself. -- 21:02, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not a member at the moment, so I can't comment on the other metals, but from my results and those of other users I've chatted with, the xp received for bronze swords is based on Smithing level times five times percentage of "perfect". Perhaps this is true of the other metals, also? You might record here xp received, Smithing level, and percentage... JalYt-Mej-Wynde 16:44, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * For things that aren't bronze, others and I got numbers consistent with $${xp_{max} \over 1.2} \times performance$$, for $$performance < 1.00$$, but I don't have my data anymore. I'll try to get some new data, although I've already decided this activity/minigame/whatever is mostly a waste of resources. I'm pretty close to leveling, too, so I can see if that makes a difference. However, the $$5 \times level \times performance$$ expression for bronze easily doesn't apply for iron and up. -- 06:31, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Some data for Level 84 and 85 smithing:
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 * {| class="wikitable"

! Level !! Iron !! Steel !! Mithril !! Adamant 84% = 2269 80% = 2161 70% = 2647 63% = 2382 78% = 3540 68% = 3086 96% = 2593 96% = 3631 48% = 1815 64% = 2904 83% = 4753 70% = 4009 So far, all of it is consistent with $${xp_{max} \over 1.2} \times performance$$, for $$performance < 1.00$$. Additionally, the xp Jagex quotes for 100% appears not to depend on level. -- 09:42, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 84
 * 97% = 2620
 * 97% = 2620
 * 96% = 3631
 * 98% = 4448
 * n/a
 * 85
 * 100% = 3242
 * 100% = 3242
 * 97% = 3668
 * 83% = 3767
 * 88% = 5040
 * }

Burst pipes
No npc tells us how to fix burst pipes or when they break. Can you please add a section on that?

Pls sign, and... is pipes members only? I have no idea where, how and at what reasorces :P Leon Art 17:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Respect with ceremonial swords
Since you get 1% respect for every 10k exp, can anyone tell me if that's separate from the 1% respect for every 3 ceremonial swords?

Because you get 1% respect for every 3 swords you make and 1% for every 10k exp.

I'm just wondering if they are both separate in terms of getting respect.

Or is it just one and not the other? 01:10, March 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * According to the published FAQ, it's just 1% per 10kxp, plus burst pipes and ancestors. The editor who put 1%/3 swords was probably getting about 3kxp per sword. -- 01:05, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

sc hammers?
many people are asking if sc hammers work there. can anyone confirm whether they do or don't?

F2P Submission
Linked F2P page to this one.

P.S. I didn't know this at first but each piece of armor only uses ONE bar and not FIVE (ex. chestplate). Make note of this because it wasn't clear when deciding if using this place was worth my time. I calculated that the experience of one iron plate body (per bar) is 37.5 xp vs 111 xp (per bar) with the armor. (3x xp given). Also, in Falador, I used to have to run from the mine to the furnace and back again to make the platebody. Now I only have to go from the mine to the workshop (2x convienence). So we now have 2*3 = 6x more efficiency in gaining experience in smithing.66.71.27.181 02:35, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Armor XP Table
As written "+bonus" makes it appear as though I get 101+111 xp and this is NOT the case. Numbers are probably right, I only used the iron grade I armor. This just needs to made clear. 66.71.27.181 13:21, March 21, 2011 (UTC)