RuneScape:Requests for adminship

This is a page to nominate users for administrative duties.

Archive 1 - Contains nominations of JodoKast, Oddlyoko, Richard1990, Huanghe63, Jard Y Dooku, Couchpotato99, Eucarya,  Hyenaste , Shadowdancer, Avian Maid, Vimescarrot, Megalodon99, Dreadnought

Users in dark red were appointed as bureaucrats. Archive 2 - Contains nominations of Emosworld,Whiplash,Ilyas,Chrislee33, Vimescarrot

Rules

 * Contributors should not nominate themselves for adminship. However, users are welcome to implicitly or explicitly show an interest in becoming an administrator in order to alert other users.
 * To acquire more positive votes, it is best to be requested by a contributor with much experience or an administrator.
 * Contributors should not be nominated simply for having many edits or having been around a while. While these two often factor into successful adminship, these two qualities alone do not make an administrator.
 * In most cases, bureaucrats may only be recommended by other bureaucrats. Because it is good to have a stable amount of active bureaucrats, nominations will be made when one bureaucrat becomes much less active on the Wiki. There are currently 5 bureaucrats and 3 active bureaucrats.
 * Nominations will be held for at least 2 weeks before a final decision is made. If the vote is clearly positive before the two weeks are up, a bureaucrat may make a statement of intent to attract any negative votes.

Guidelines
In order to be considered for sysop rights, you should be doing some or all of the following already as a normal user:
 * Watch Special:Recentchanges and help to revert vandalism even before you're an admin - just because you don't have fast rollback facility doesn't mean you can't change vandalised pages back to what they were before - any "new" pages that you can't delete yourself, just put the little edit at the top - another admin should pick this up in Category:Speedy deletion candidates and follow it up.  This is the primary reason why this wiki needs admins - protection from vandalism and acting as a volunteer to keep this wiki clean, readable, and factually accurate.
 * Create good content - if we don't have content there's no point in anyone using this wiki. Attempting rewrites of large articles will greatly help your chances of being recommended/accepted, as this is more noticable in some ways than lots of minor edits to lots of small articles.  Where the wiki wins over other sites is our ability to get information out fast simply because everyone has editorial control, even unlogged users.  Help write the brand new updates - if someone else is writing the quest guide, make your own notes but start creating the sub-page articles ready to be blue-linked already.  I love creating a quest guide where every time I create a link it's already blue (I experienced this particularly when I wrote the first draft of Darkness of Hallowvale).
 * Be part of the community - Welcome new editors on their talk page and gently guide them in the right direction. Talk to other editors, engage in the forums and generally show your face around! Though the wiki is assuredly not a clan, it is a place that your fellow players gather, treat them as human beings!
 * All decisions should be democratic - regardless of who is suggesting something whether they be normal user/sysop/bureaucrat, all votes should be counted equal. If you are in the minority on an issue over a certain article, be prepared to back down.  Be mature about it.  See Runescape:All editors are equal.

1 - external links are generally ok in the main wiki as long as they're to "reputable" sites, Additionally, anything in your own user page is ok as long as it's not outrageous (porn, personal abuse, etc)

Blankothe3rd

 * Takes a deep breath" I'm going to (gasp) nominate myself. As selfish as I am I feel bad more myself, If I be an admin, I'd keep this wiki clean of spammers, vandals, and personal attackers. *Takes another deep breath*, I bet i'll get alot of opposes but, what the hay? I just want to see if people think I'm good enough to be an admin. *Takes 1 last deep breath*, forgive due to me nominating myself. How selfish I am. =| --Blankothe3rd 07:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose I really don't know you that well which probally means you have a very small presence in the community. I'm not very familiar with your edits either. Don't worry I don't judge people for nominating themselves. --Whiplash 13:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Soft Short Oppose maybe early =/ Syugecin talkcontribs

Tirrian gant
Final Votes
 * Support - 1
 * Oppose - 2
 * Neutral - 0

Has been here for a while now, and it seems he has the maturity you need to become a sysop. I think he should be an administrator, even if he isn't here now. I also think it would please him if he came back to find out he became a sysop. Talk-to Cashman286 (Level 38)  21:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Support great contributor and active in the community. --Whiplash 22:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cashman, have you gotten consent from Tirrian gant yet? He hasn't been on for a few days, and according to his user page, he won't be back until the 30th. =/ 22:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes and I believe he stated he did not want to be for some reason. And it is also not allowed to sysop one without their own approval. 23:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Tirrian has only made a bit more than 500 edits. I think that administrators should atleast have 1,000 edits when they get administrated. So I'll change my oppose to a support when Tirrian has made about 500 more edits. 23:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Thank you for the consideration, I'm honored that I might be thought of as "Administrator material", but first, do we really need another admin person?  And second, to go along with Chiafriend, I really haven't made a whole lot of edits, especially if you'll notice that the majority of my edits have been on the forums and talk pages rather than the main pages of the Wikia.  So again, thanks for the consideration, but for the moment I have to decline.  I don't mind being nominated, and it's great to see that I'm "respected", so when I finally get enough decent edits, and if we actually need another admin person, I wouldn't mind being nominated again, but until then, no thanks.  (By the way, I'm still gone, I'm just borrowing a computer for the moment) 01:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Malestro
Final Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 0

Okay, so I've had my problems. I'd like to appologize. My opinions will not be expressed anymore. But other then that I believe I have worked really hard to help out.. Sure I have made mistakes that had to do with redirecting but I redid the whole emote article, I helped with small and large details and say what I know. As for the Zaros thing... I don't want to be judged on that, I am sorry and the opinions should not be expressed. But if you look throughout how I've done in editing, I think I've done pretty well. But its not my place to decide. Anyway, thank you for even reading this :)  15:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Too soon, sorry. You have less than 500 edits. Maybe in 2 months or so. 08:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops well I didn't know how to check them. But I thought I did more, and probably did.  But I wasn't logged in. Lol.  oh well I can wait.  I got to manage other things anyway at the time... I load up  on too much.  15:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Emosworld
Final Votes
 * Support - 6
 * Oppose - 0
 * Neutral - 0

Well, I said that I would be nominating myself at armoud late Feb/early March, so, here I am. I don't swear and I have made useful contributions to RS Wikia. 06:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support, you're doing good stuff there. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 00:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Like Eucarya said - It is true, you are helping a lot. I looked at your contributions. Great job, keep going. And that means Support!00:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support  00:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks to all of you! Emosworld 02:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Support - Quite a good editor :) 01:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Support - Nice work around the wiki. Keep it up, man! Chaoticar 06:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * 5 days till my results come out!!!! Emosworld 05:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Support. Why not? Cashman286 18:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I expect Eucayra is gonna wait for another week coz' I don't have enough supports.


 * Notice of intent: I'll do this on Monday (2nd april) next week unless I can't get on, any objections should be lodged now! --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 08:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks to everyone who Supports. Emosworld 06:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the second. Emosworld 06:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * User "Emosworld" is now a sysop --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 16:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sacre Fi
Final Votes
 * Support - 8
 * Oppose - 0
 * Neutral - 0

Sacre Fi is a hard working member of the community. He has a good way of dealing with vandals, converting them, or just ignoring them and reverting or asking for the "vandal page" to be deleted. He has shown that he deserves this. He is kind to new users and shows them how to do things. He gives them tips. I have a habit of doing these things without informing the nominated person, so I wont forget. Still, he is doing great. He started in December, December 17 I believe.23:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Heheh, at least you asked this time. ^_^ Aren't there already quite a few administrators here already? I'd be more than happy to do it, but it's gettin' a bit crowded. Thanks! 23:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And so is the wiki in general!23:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've thought about it, and there's not much that a sysop can do that I can't beyond blocking... maybe I should withdraw from the nomination? =/ 02:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Support From Imperic.! Sacre Fi is a hard worker to the wiki. When I joined he showed me around. xD. He's really nice with new people, I support him every step of the way! Enough Said.
 * So, you decided to come? -.- 02:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * There is much that a sysop can do, blocking, mediawiki, unprotect and protect, delete and restore, revert more easily. Your choice. But not many people have voted.02:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Meh, it's fine being a lowly peon, and I can always pester the sysops if I want something changed. ^_^ Although MediaWiki is tempting... I'll think about it, but I guess I'll still keep this here while thinking. Feel free to vote, I guess. =/ 03:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * We should wait a few weeks, 2 weeks at the least.03:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Support; as I've said before, I'd happily sysop everyone I trust on this wiki. Make it much easily to implement some of our policies. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 11:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I trust Sacre Fi very much both on the wiki and the game. --Whiplash 11:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support God, I thought you already were a sysop. Well, If you aren't, I think you should be.00:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, can I at least pretend to be stricken with peonage? Please? 01:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose so. All admin duties are vonluntary. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  08:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, ok, I'll try then, I s'pose. :) 00:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Try what? Did I miss something?00:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I said I'll think 'bout it, and so that be me saying yes. :) 00:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. I'd like to see a couple of more people agreeing here before sysopping you, but you've been doing good stuff. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 08:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak support. I'm not really sure about this but i still say yes. Katshuma 21:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong supportYou always seem to make WIKI better. I think you would be a great sysop. You even changed my ways.01:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support keep up the great work Chrislee33 01:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * NOTICE OF INTENT: Sacre Fi will be made an admin on Sunday 12/03/07, unless we have objections now. Objecting after the fact is not an option. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 00:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Um... don't you mean 3/12/07? The month comes first.14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not in English. That is, the language of England. Day/Month/Year. Makes more sense, it's in increasing levels of size. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  15:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup. I have trouble adjusting to that in foriegn languages. Anyway, support. ДҖ-- Huanghe63 talk 15:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * User "Sacre Fi" is now a sysop --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 00:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Support from ToaBionicle I've been reading through many user pages, and may favour and honour Sacre Fi as a trusting and guiding person. Well Sacre Fi, Guthix has your support!

Yeah, I support Sacre Fi, too. JalYt-Ket-Gambler 10  Talk 02:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This has been over for... a couple weeks. Read the date tags. 20:53, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Cashman286
Final Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 2
 * Neutral - 0

I know I haven't edited much, but that's because I cant because I don't know enough since I'm a free player. I know this will get nowhere, but Total Rune tried, so I don't see why I shouldn't. I just feel like I could help more as a sysop.00:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Unlike Total Rune, you realize that you have to be here longer. But if you know that, why would you nominate yourself? well... Oppose.00:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Er... Oppose, sorry. It's just that you've made 52 edits, and 1 to the actual content of the Wiki... I don't know much about members' things either, but there's other websites out there and other pages on the Wiki that could help with gathering information. Maybe you could wait a little longer (2-3 months, maybe less?) and gather up some contributions. At least you attempted, though... :) 00:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * God, I feel like an idiot. :(. Anyway...I'm dropping out. Even Total Rune didn't get comments like this so quickly... 00:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, don't feel like an idiot. Be confident in yourself.01:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Chiafriend12
Final Votes
 * Support - 7
 * Oppose - 0
 * Neutral - 0
 * Spam - 2 <-- Ooo from Dreadnought. And hi.

I've been here for 4 months, made nearly 1,000 edits, plus many people know me in this community and I know many people. I have an extensive ammount of knowledge of how to do stuff when editing to make text be bold, italicized, supifyedTalk 23:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)p>, subifyed, red, green , blue , etc.. I was getting pictures for the Wiki during the 2/24/07 riot in world 28, I confirmed that Black P Hats don't exist (even though the proof had to be deleted) and I have reverted some vandalisms in order to keep the Wiki tidy. So, should I be an admin, or wait longer? 05:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I like your contribions and find them informative and entertaining. As a contributor, i expect an admin to be caring to the community and help with all the subtleties of the wiki. At the same time, an admin should defend the work against abuse. This is a hard balancing act, which requires additional skills you are still developing. What i like to see most in an admin is a view where this wiki needs to go. Will the wiki flourish as a pure information database? What goals should the wiki aim for? Should it be a leading fansite or something else? Your ideas will follow from that vision and that is when contributors will request you to serve them. Until then, please continue your great work as a valued contributor. --Miw 11:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Can we put you on hold? I think many of your edits are good ones but also many of those have been to non actual articles, I think you're very trustworthy and I would say support but we're going to nominate Sacre Fi so could you give us some time to get back to you? --Whiplash 12:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Disregard all that support.--Whiplash 12:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. You been here a long time and made lotsa contribz. Lol the text tricks u did aren't that hard...even I can do them. Still you probably know way more than me. Gangsterls 00:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Replying to my self....why is time doing that weird thing? I just put four tildes. ??? How do I put date in then?
 * Ooo 02:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Informed contributor.  Rich Farmbrough, 13:24 8  March 2007 (GMT). 13:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * support - powerful presence in the community; I see your name everywhere. 19:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not totally convinced - almost all of your edits seem to be in either forum or user space, and most of your main wiki edits seem to be minor. However, we do need someone to watch the forums/are willing to help Whiplash maintain them and do archiving and stuff.  If we get enough votes for you here I'm happy to sysop you and I'll point you in the direction of keeping the forums clean! --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 19:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

So I'll be a Forum Sysop? That sounds cool! 01:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Done a lot of work ever since I greeted him the first time he came here. :) ДҖ-- Huanghe63 talk 15:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Why, support, of course. 05:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this enough support to become a Sysop? If not, how much more support do I need? 05:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to throw it at you, as I think that you deserve this, but nominations must be held for at least 2 weeks before coming to a decision. However, since you seem to be backed up by a lot of people, you will become a sysop, no doubt about that. 13:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * =D 18:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, one more day. I am doing this not only to inform everyone, but for a crat to see the reccentchanges and realize... 20:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yay! Only a few hours 'til I'm a sysop! :D. 21:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just wondering, I haven't gotten a message that I've been sysopifyed, so am I not gonna' be sysopifyed? <:( 00:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You have to wait for a bureaucrat to notice this, approve it & sysop you, then they'll leave a message here and/or on your talk page saying they've done it.  01:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, so someone needs to notice. 04:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Notice of intent: User:Chiafriend12 will be made a sysop on Friday 30th March unless we have objections now, I'm leaving it another week because I don't think we have quite enough votes. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 14:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Does great work; though a bit silly at times, but that's OK.

Just saying, but it's March 30th now. 00:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Patience can do wonders. 22:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * User "Chiafriend12" is now a sysop --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 23:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Patcong
Current Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 2
 * Neutral - 2

I always wanted to be a admin but never got the guts to request it, but the day that Total Rune was vandalizing Wiki made me post my name up here. It is ok if you don't support me. I understand. I haven't been here that long anyways. I do think I started somewhere in January or February.00:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Mabey too soon, you haven't made alot of edits but you're not a bad user either, perhaps this is not the time and you should wait a little longer before re-requesting quite like Ilyas did. --Whiplash 00:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep I knew that was bound to happen. Ok maybe try again in a month or two..or three=)00:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be a good idea perhaps then you could become an admin. :) --Whiplash 00:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - A majority of your edits aren't in the article namespace. Those that are, however, look good. Wait for a while yet, and I'll support. 03:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Soft oppose - you are not at all a bad editor; you just have very little experience as of yet 02:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Just wait a while - Maybe in March you'll have a better chance of trying out. ДҖ-- Huanghe63 talk 15:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * So how many more months do you think I have a chance?21:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * 2 - 3 months mabey :/ --Whiplash 22:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I'm done for. You can delete my name. I'm not going to be on wiki anymore.23:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe in March you'll have a better chance or trying out. It is march :O.--Whiplash 00:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Majora18574
Final Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 10
 * Neutral - 0

I belive I should be nominated because I edit alot in wikipedia and not much here..but I shall upload images of new items and ones with no image...and I shall create enemy pages that haven't even been made yet....and I also shall give every slight detail in each....thats why I should be nominated a admin here...I shall update all new items and monsters and upload enemy and item images and make the enemy list complete with no unmade articles of enemies and items!!!!!02:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Somewhat Strong Oppose - Three reasons:

I'll support you when you do those things that you say you will do. Good luck on all of that. That may take a while. 02:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) you haven't been here long
 * 2) you don't have many contributions
 * 3) this isn't Wikipedia


 * Strong oppose - Wikipedia is Wikipedia. RuneScape Wiki is not Wikipedia.  So what, you have quite a few edits there, they are totally separate and you should contribute more often here first.  You only have one edit in the article namespace.  ONE EDIT.  It doesn't matter what you are going to do, what matters is what you already have done. You've only been here slightly over a week, anyway. Wait another few months, and make some more worthwhile contributions.   03:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, unfortunately - this seems to be exactly what I'm talking about... I really do think you will know when it is time to become a sysop when someone nominates you first, and that's probably the reason why it's called "nomination." I'm sorry if I make it seem like I'm targeting only you, as this applies to everyone. Also, you can still do all of those things on your list now, and that might get you a nomination when you get enough edits. Good luck when they do nominate you. :) 03:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - you simply haven't been here long enough to be considered. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 09:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Extremely strong OPPOSE - I may seem harsh...but see the following reasons: 00:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Extremely strong oppose - You just got here. You say that you will write all of the quests and ncp pages on RuneScape!!! That is an extremely hard job that I would bet all of my money against. You have barely made Any edits! Please wait a few months and put your money where your mouth is.00:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Why Id never!!You under estamate me...why i even helped the pirate page and other pages now!How rude of you to judge me so quickly!05:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You have 37 total edits
 * You have ONE main page (article) edit
 * You haven't been here long enough
 * Just because you say you're going to do things doesn't mean you will...writing articles for all the creatures and items in runescape is a huge undertaking that will take you several months
 * Nominating yourself makes you look overly ambitious and somewhat selfish


 * We don't have enough positive things to judge you on.. You helped write a couple pages, good for you. Show us that you deserve to be an admin.  We can't go around sysop'ing everyone, if we did, this Wiki would be hell.  We're not underestimating you, we're giving you the harsh truth.   05:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment - Sysop powers won't help you in achieving any of the goals you've mentioned. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 08:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - The pirate page is one page. And to reply to your comment of my "rudeness", judging you quickly is not what I did. You have only got here, in fact I did not even notice you until now, and you seem to be overly confident in yourself. Please wait. If most of those people up there failed, what is that makes you feel that you are special?19:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. 22:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Emosworld 06:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, until you actually get some things done that will help the community out. Being a Sysop really doesn't help your ability to be useful, it just means you have some administrative abilities.  Who's to say you'll use those abilities correctly on RS Wiki?  When you've been here long enough for us to see how you contribute to this community, then you'll certainly be able to get nominated and supported.  20:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, RSWiki is not English wikipedia and just because you edit a lot in the English wiki, doesn't mean you will make useful edits here. It is somewhat pointless to put yourself down as you have less than 100 edits. Maybe less than 50. 06:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * EXTREMELY STRONG OPPOSE but listen. No offense, but I nominated myself too, I realized the mistake, however you seem to be pushing your luck. Listen.  I wanted to do it to help out.  You just seem to want to be on top.  You gotta start to learn how to indent before you can even do that, I mean you didn't hit enter before you talked to Ilyas.  Please.  Read the style policy, edit, and maybe we'll all change our minds.  And lighten up.  15:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Endasil
Current Votes
 * Support/"Yes" - 4
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 0

Hi all. I hate nominating myself, but I wanted to make it known that I'd like to have admin rights. I have only been here for a few months, but if you look at my contributions you can see I've already been acting like an admin, only without the shortcuts that an admin would have. Though my mainspace edits are only in the low hundreds, I think you can see that they are high quality and professional.

Before you object to my time on the Wiki or the number of edits I've made, keep in mind that the sysop position isn't a glorified editor position. Users should not be given sysop based on their time here or the number of their edits, but on their proven ability to carry out administrative tasks. That said, I'm open to whatever opinions you may have.

I may note that I'll be on vacation starting Friday, so I may just let responses build up until my return the following Sunday. Don't think I'm ignoring this thread.


 * You've been here a little over a month. I don't even know you lol. 01:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the response...though I don't know what to say other than "ok." As I tried to carefully say in my paragraph above, I'm not seeking this position because I'm chummy with all the other sysops, because I believe that's the type of environment we're trying to avoid, and I'm not seeking this position because I've been here a long time or make major contributions.  Major contributions should have no bearing on your ability to perform administrative duties.  You can continue making major contributions without administrative authority.  The point was, I am seeking admin because I already have been performing administrative duties, and would like to make that easier on myself to do.  Just take a look at my contributions and you can see what I do most on the Wiki.  Hi, I'm Endasil by the way :)

I see the "all editors are equal" policy thrown around quite a bit, and you're definitely better than the random person who wanders in off the internet and goes for an RfA. Going through your contributions, I like what I see. Nearly half (exactly if you round up the percentage) your edits are mainspace, and they are quality edits. Even if this is too soon, or if we've got enough admins for the time being, I think you'd make a good sysop. You've got my support. 04:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not yet - You are a good editor, but you've only been here for a month (or so). In a few months or a couple hundred edits I'll support. 04:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - Conditions apply - I'm not an advocate for self-nominations... at least you're being bold. :) However, it's been a short while since you've joined (I did, in fact, read the nomination), and you may not have the trust of others to become an administrator... also, unlike me, you actually know what you're talking about. =P I'll support, so long as you pinky promise to use good judgement. *Raises pinky* 05:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've not checked anything you've done but I'd just like to say, you certainly seem to have the right attitude towards sysop powers. I don't really have time to check what you've done at the moment, sorry - if you bug me in-game I might... JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  06:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all for your comments thus far. I respect all of your opinions, and while I've argued that edit count and length of time shouldn't be a factor in whether one becomes a sysop, I do understand that both are essential in becoming trusted by the community. I'd like to shortly share why I am seeking admin powers. I am for the most part seeking just the roll-back capability and the delete page capability, because I often end up reverting vandalism and marking pages for speedy deletions. So, I'm going to leave my nomination open for the next week. As I've said above, I'll be gone for the coming week. Feel free to post your support or criticisms while I'm gone, and again, please don't think I'm ignoring you. I just don't know how many internet cafes I'd be able to hit up while backpacking in Scotland :-).


 * Yes you seem to have the maturity and good intentions that mabey some of our past hopefulls mabey haven't, however you should be here just a bit longer before you get privalleges just to get to know you in the community. ^^ Best of luck. --Whiplash 22:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. I've watched a lot of your edits and I'm impressed with the contributions you've made here.  Keep up the good work.  02:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Syugecin

 * Support 8
 * Oppose 3
 * Neutral/Pending 4

I nominate Syugecin because he helps me with my page and also has lots of knowledge about Runescape. It would be an honor to add him to the team. GO SYUGECIN!!!!!!!!!!
 * Hey! Thanks! Who is that above? They forgot to sign.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I want to support this user because he has helped me on RS a lot. :)Runescapehelperperson 16:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For everyone out there... I just read at the top that being nominated by a more well how to put this... active user gives you better chances. No offense to Quilw but he isn't well known so I don't think I have much of a chance. Sysops, delete this if necessary. But everyone! feel free to vote! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 22:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Forget it. Kill what I said. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I shouldn't have said that. My bad. I forgot the all users equal thing. Sorry everyone! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I am all for syugecin. He is kind, friendly, always ready to lend a

hand when you ask him to, and very knowlageable about

RuneScape. He is one of the few future admins who understand their

true duty. SYUGECIN ALL THE WAY!!! Codenametiger talk 01:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Neutral 18:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. 769 edits, but 446 of them are in forums (123), userpages (206), and user talk (117). How did you get 206 user page edits anyway? He has 256 mainspace edits, if anyone was wondering. A couple image, template, project pages.
 * Support Syugecin FTW. Plain and simple. A vote for Syugecin will save 1 puppy from being eaten by George Bush! 01:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :D [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin <font color="NAVY">talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks to that IP too? Are you a user? Because you aren't logged in. :P [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="NAVY">talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh ya, and to that IP Address, I'm not an admin yet :P That's why we're voting. so your statement is incorrect. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="NAVY">talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you show me one edit that you feel is a good example of the work you do on the wiki? It will influence my decision. --Wowbagger421 01:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SupportHmmm....He looks pretty worthy in being a admin. Support it is!}01:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I've seen some of Syugecin's work on the wiki and i think he is a perfect candidate for the job. Armyleader36 13:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. He is a nice person. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 46)  20:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

After discussion, my vote is now Neutral. 22:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Tentative Support. I would love to see you attempt a rewrite of a "large" article not just making small edits here and there.  You're fairly low combat, so help us out with some of the quests, the work you did on Death Plateau (quest) was good, we need more of that and some pics to go with it!  Right now my feeling is "I don't see any reason why not", I'm more than happy to change this to a total support if you can demonstrate that you're brave enough to attempt large articles - part of being a sysop is following the style guide etc, and being able to point other users in the right direction.  And giving them free-rein when they look like they're coming up with good stuff. --Eucarya Talk 22:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support, per Eucarya. 23:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. 23:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Look what I found, quite sad....

" ==VFA== COuld you vote for me in the votes for adminship? Vote something oppose or support. It doesn't matter just please put something.  <font color="NAVY">Syugecin   15:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)"


 * If you ask, thats a no. 02:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow Dread, that's pretty harsh. All he asks for is your opinion and you call that begging for votes?  Yikes, you run a tight ship.  So much for an open-communication community.

EDIT: Looki here. http://www.wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaRUNESCAPE.htm 230 edits or so in 60 days. I don't think we should admin people that have low amts. of edits and might go inactive, kinda like me. 02:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not enough edits I'm afraid. Chaoticar 03:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. You haven't been here for long. You haven't made many edits. I think that this wiki is getting too much people who don't understand anything. Total Rune and Cashman support like everyone because theyre nice persons. If more people like that come here then like every 2 days ago arrived noobs will get 10 pointless supports. If that happens, anybody can become a admin! (We should avoid that!) <- If that hurt you, sorry. 05:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)#

support A great person, and although he hasn't been with us all for long, I still think he deserves recgonition, great rune shop btw. ;-) 13:21 gmt 27th April

100% support Tesfan 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose He sucks and really destroys this wiki... Ryugecin(2) 03:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Um... I think that you are inpersonating my brother. He is Ryugecin. Maybe you should reconsider your name. And I don't think I suck or destroy the wiki. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 14:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support nice guy however hasn't made alot of edits. And be nice guys we don't want to start an argument. --Whiplash 13:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wowbagger421

 * Support-5
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-3

Wowbagger421 is seeking sysop powers. He has been a member since 8 June 2006, but has especially been active since March, amassing over 500 edits. Wowbagger has shown a great variety in his edits, ranging from user-relations to information in the namespace. He has built several articles dealing with prayer and has also worked in categories and typographic edits. Additionally, he has a good record, having never committed vandalism nor even butt heads with another user. 23:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support-It's true. He is extremely helpful at times and most pages he contributed helped me alot. I bet he will be a great so what awesome admin.23:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, but I say Neutral because he has only 500 edits you say? I don't quite think that's enough, but Wowbagger sure does has enough expierience with the wiki. 00:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 817, but who's counting ;) --Wowbagger421 00:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you always base on edits Chia? Read the third bullet under rules...edit count and admin ability do NOT go hand in hand.  Support.
 * Support im surprised he is not already. --Whiplash 00:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. 01:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, so more than 500 edits. That's better. :) But I shall not yet say support, but instead Answer Pending. 01:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Definately overdue. Good work! Chaoticar 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Total Support.  A great editor, mature, hard working, contributes good content.  --Eucarya Talk 23:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Answer has pended! New answer: Neutral, still 18:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have much of an impression of you yet, so, Neutral. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 46)  20:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. Lol, I have never talked to him/her or tracked his/her edits. My vote doesn't really count. 05:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Play with fire, you're gonna get burned Wowbagger. 19:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Richardbot
I'd like my bot to be an admin; it's not working and I'd like to see if making him an admin would help. It also helps if a bot is an admin so it can edit all pages on the wiki.--<font color="#002BB8">Richard (<font color="#002BB8">Talk  - <font color="#002BB8">Contribs ) 21:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, support, but if Whip still isn't made a b'crat, Eucarya, could you make this bot have bot flag status as well as adminship? ДҖ-- Huanghe63 talk 22:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll ask on main wikia forums on what I should do re: bot accounts there to help the wiki. I assume this is to help carry out annoying tasks like categorisation and so on?  Anyway, support.
 * Er, do we actually have any "super protected" pages - ie sysops only? I fairly sure that I've never protected a page like that.  As long as the account has been registered 3 days (or something like that), it should be able to edit every page anyway.  --Eucarya Talk 22:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Well, the sidebars almost definely admin only, along with things like mediawiki. I know on the Kuk Sool Won wiki, there is a um... not super nice admin, And I can't edit a lot of the pages, cause he has protected them. for example, even MY' awards subpage I can't edit. 23:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, mediawiki is sysops only, that's true. Will the bot be doing this with that though?  I would honestly be suprised if any pages in the main wiki are blocked from editing by normal users.  Maybe contentious issues like Zezima, but that should just end up being a redirect.  --Eucarya Talk 23:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

No, Eucarya's right actualy, other than the MediaWiki pages, there's nothing hindering the bot so I'll pass on the adminship. I need the bot flagged though! Hopefully that'll fix it.--<font color="#002BB8">Richard (<font color="#002BB8">Talk  - <font color="#002BB8">Contribs ) 02:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, just don't break anything too badly, k? --Eucarya Talk 13:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

My archived talk pages are sysop only. :) 03:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There may be some restriction on number of edits any logged in user can make within a certain time frame. I'll have to check, but I'm not sure sysop status would actually help. --Eucarya Talk 08:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I need a b'crat to flag the bot. Are you guys able to?--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 12:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me just ask at central wikia. --Eucarya Talk 13:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think it's flagged, if I read it right at Help:Revert, try making an edit with the bot and see if it appears in recent changes.

It's edits still appear in the recent changes.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 16:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've got someone from central wikia to flag 'Richardbot' as a bot account, can you try again? --Eucarya Talk 17:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes! It works. Thanks Eucarya.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 17:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Dtm142

 * Support-1
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-0

I have written many of our quest guides including Recipe for Disaster, Regicide, Mourning's Ends Part 1 and 2. I was also the original creator of RuneScape:Userboxes and have created several of the most popular ones including Template:User member, the original versions of Template:User rare, Template:User guild, and Template:User free player. I was the user of the month for April 2007.

P.S. I know that I'm not supposed to nominate myself because of the new rules, but I have done so anyway as per RuneScape:All editors are equal, WP:IAR, and my comments on the talk page. Dtm142 23:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Dtm has written over 100 quest guides, most of which have probably been used by all of you at one time or another. His guides are detailed, accurate, and he devotes his time and efforts into them. Over 900 total edits, nearly 650 mainspace. He even won user of the month for April 2007 for his hard work! 23:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated youself Chia. o_O 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Somewhat support I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides. However I haven't actually seen you do alot of reverting or reporting vandalism mabey I just haven't look hard enough but I don't think il let that get in the way. :) --Whiplash 13:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with whiplash when he says "I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides". And, i think that if your good enough to be a user of the month, your good enough to be an admin. Tesfan 15:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the nominating-yourself policy is bogus anyway, it's there to stop people who clearly won't get sysop from wasting space. DTM is clearly eligible for sysop.  Let's try actually looking at users, Chia, instead of basing our decisions on edit counts and silly rules.  If no one nominates a user like DTM, that's our fault as a community, not his fault as a user.
 * I agree with Endasil on that point I find that oh you cant become a sysop because you nominated yourself bullshit. The guideline should be changed. --Whiplash 18:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Gangsterls

 * Support-2
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-0

Well...along the lines of self-nomination, I may as well try it out. I don't know exact numbers, but I think I'm over 1200 total contributions, with over 800 in the mainspace. And, of course, Support. 23:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated youself Chia. O_o 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Chia thats not a good reason you always have a reason to oppose almost every nomination. I Support Gangsterls because he has contacted me ingame several times to report vandalism so I think he's well suited for this job. --Whiplash 13:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you could make a few improvements as a user, including making sure of the correct spelling before correcting others' spelling, but this is not really related to sysop. I think you have the maturity to be a good sysop, just make sure you always evaluate a situation before making an action.

Yes, I nominated myself, but after my sysopification (that isn't a word is it?) someone (was it Whiplash? Vimes?) declared that users can't be sysoped when they nominate themselves. I'm only opposing because of that. If I read it wrong and can prove that it says something else, then I'll change my oppose to a pending. But still oppose. 17:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Lots of good edits. If you'd asked, I probably would have nominated you myself. --Wowbagger421 17:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nobody ever deemed you couldn't. --Whiplash 18:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Total Rune

 * Supports - 1
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral - 0

He has been an active editor since the troubles from the past. He has put those behind him and is now on the wiki daily. He is generally around for everyone. But try not to get in any more fights! Have Fun!!! XD <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * Meh, I've never voted before for an RFA, so I regret that my first vote would have to be somewhat strong oppose. =\ Although I appreciate his help with the arguement last night, I feel that's exactly why he may not make the best sysop. An admin should be able to stay neutral during heated arguements and I feel that neither of us are really able to do that. Plus the whole situation with his brother, though I don't really feel that should make a difference.  13:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I oppose too, I've seen some of his posts to other editors, and they seem very angry, I wouldn't like to see what that anger could do if given access to sysop powers. --Marcus Gord 14:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - not that many usefull edits, and has not bee around very long. Also, what would he do with sysop powers? 15:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - he has declared that his only real intention is to become a sysop, which signals to me that he's just looking for power...power that I personally wouldn't leave in the hands of someone who is easily angered and whose account has not been secure in the past. .

Oppose. He has made helpful edits since he was unblocked, but I still feel like he never should have been unblocked. I doubt I'll ever trust him. --Wowbagger421 16:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry Total, but told ya'. Hehe.NEUTRAL 17:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

God I hate you guys but I'll say this anyways in hopes of re-informing you about myself. My brother is no longer in control of this account. I'm very glad to have been nominated. I nominated myself once earlier and when my brother was in control of this account he tried. I know this is probably gonna end up being a long post but I thought I should let you know this. I do work full time at a Food Basics here in Niagara Falls, Ontario. I'm done high school, I'm 19 years old. I'm always watching the Wikia, even when you think I'm not. If I can't sleep at night I'll pull an all-nighter and stay up watching the wikia and reverting vandalous edits. I'm like the Silent Wikia Watchman. So in closing, Vote for me and Don't feed the Tz-TokJad! Like the band Hinder said in their song "Get Stoned"; "If it's not perfect, I'll perfect it 'til my heart explodes". You do realize all the vandalism I've reverted and prevented was done while all the other Sysops were AFK or sleeping or at school.19:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

LMAO. --Whiplash 19:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Whip. You. Me. Duel Arena. Now. >:( 19:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * About my acid tongue I realize Wowbagger still is one of those people who believe I'm my idiotic brother Nicholas. Wowbagger, that's your opinion and I respect it. Now. My acid tongue. I can at times burst into a flaming ball of swearing, but I try to keep it at a low minimum. The only time I've blasted someone is when it was a vandalizing IP user. I realize alot of you don't trust me because of the history between the wiki and the creator (and poser) of my account, my brother Nicholas. Once again, your own opinion, I respect it. But I had really hoped that my brother would not stand in the way of me becoming a Sysop. But I see he has. I am a very mature person, I would make an excellent Sysop. But of course alot of you guys are simpled minded and have a tunnel vision which seems to be focused on the past. The past is past, forgive and forget. 19:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Whiplash
Current Votes
 * Supports - 12
 * Oppose - 3
 * Neutral - 1

I'm going to be taking a bit more of a back seat - I'll still be around just not as often, so I think we need another 'crat around. Whiplash is probably our most active checker of recent changes, contributes good content, plus is well known within the community. Nominating for Bureaucrat. -- Eucarya Talk 18:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Weak oppose. I'm not sure if we want another crat. 4 or over is enough. Cashman286 18:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Strong Support -- I was going to bring it up, but I have nominated a little over too many people. And we only have 2 crats (who are active). If this is true, then we only have 1! 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Oh, really? I changed my mind Support. Cashman286 21:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Support. Keep up the awesome work. 18:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Neautral. Yes, we need a new 'crat, especially if Euc is taking a back seat. And Whiplash is the best man for the job, in my opinion...but...I'm not too keen on his style, no offense. A bit too trigger happy. And just the way he says some things...While I don't really mind as an admin, beauracrats are people who hold can hold some considerable influence. Should be...well-spoken. If there's a word for what I'm trying to describe, I don't know what it is. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 20:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Mmm I see... so you're trying to say I could improve on how I react to vandalism and users for example when I say Total Rune *Spits*?

Or are you meaning identifying someone as a vandal and then blocking them without seeing consequences? --Whiplash 20:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Vim, I think I know what you're trying to say. You're looking for a high degree of professionalism, which transcends the ability to make the right decisions or have the right intentions--it involves sensitivity to others no matter what the right decision is, and the ability to maintain neutrality and formality of speech when carrying out actions.  It's really comes down to what a bureaucracy is defined as: definition here.  Is Whiplash a really effective admin?  Absolutely, no one has disputed that.  But is a Bureaucrat a unique role, or just the "next step up."  If it's a unique role, than it should have more specific requirements or desired qualities than "a good admin."  That said, I can see that Whiplash is ready to take advice, and that alone makes me say Conditional Support (the condition being the promise to allow others to contribute advice as to how he runs things).
 * Erm...Yed, that sounds like what I meant. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  21:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol sorry, I wasn't trying to put words into your mouth. That was more my opinion than what I thought you were saying I guess
 * Ok intresting, thank you I now see about 2 things that I could improve. --Whiplash 21:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not mean to oppose, you all know what my vote is, but Wikipedia is about 30-40 times bigger than us. I am aware that Wikipedia is not affiliated with us, bu they are also a wiki! And last time I checked, they had only a few crats. Take this as an example for future references that there are not to be too many crats. But who is to say that just because there are already two active crats, Whiplash does not deserve this? I think another crat would be helpful and Whiplash is just the person. 21:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wait, we have Heyenaste. That will make 4 crats if Whip becomes one. 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Active member, constant checker of Recent Changes, continually reverting vandalism/blocking vandals keep up the good work! Also, as most of the other 'Crats aren't that active (no offense) another one would help. Chaoticar 04:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Um.......Ilyas, Wikipedia has several hundred times more articles than us (1,697,189 to 3,264). The reason that Wikipedia only has a few bureaucrats is because the WikiMedia Foundation doesn't trust it's crown jewel to just any contributor. They don't make strangers bureaucrats, although they will make helpful contributors into sysops. In order to be a Wikipedia bureaucrat you have to actually work for the organization. And they have very few paid employees, because almost all the content on Wikipedia is created by contributors. So you can't really compare us to them. As far as our little wiki goes, we should only need 10 bureaucrats by 2008 at our current rate of growth, and maybe 25 sysops. And Whiplash is a good choice to be one. Support. 05:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're supposed to sign. And Wikipedia crats aren't employed by WikiMedia. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  07:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Does great work on the forums mantinence and other things. Even though I have been here longer... I guess he deserves this more... 11:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Super weak oppose - Not that yu're a bad contributor, I just think no because you've been here for six months. I don't think that's long enough, but hey, I'm not even an admin, maybe 6 months is enough. 22:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hyenaste joined the wiki in July 06 and was bureaucrat'd in September which means he became a crat in only 3 months :/. --Whiplash 22:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OMG, only after 3 months? Well then, I'll change my Super weak oppose to a Neutral. 23:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Support-Another b'crat is what we need, Whiplash is a good editor, and helps a lot in the forums. ДҖ-- Huanghe63 talk 01:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Support - I think Whiplash is a good user we can trust to work in the best interests of the wiki. Avian Maid  Talk 17:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind again. I think you should wait longer to be a crat, since you need to be ready to have all of that crat abilities. Sorry, Oppose. I just don't think you're ready. Cashman286 20:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, your opinion. Can't change that, though I do have to disagree. 14:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to get vimes' agreement before making another 'crat, as he's neutral on the nomination, I'm probably going to leave it. --[[Image:Smithingimg.PNG]] Eucarya Talk 08:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've left. I'm not going to change my mind because I personally am never going to see any changes. Of course, you're free to judge for yourself in a later nomination if he's changed. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  06:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Don't think you are ready..And...Too many crats. Not very good oppose but whatever.. 01:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Comments: Although Whip is an excellent admin, he has been here a relatively short time compared to many other admins that aren't crats. Takes Vimes for example. Vimes has over 5,000 total edits, and 3,000 mainspace article edits. Whip has over 3,000 total edits, and nearly 2,000 mainspace edits. I looked at a few other admins who I feel do a good job and have been here a long time, however time is not the only factor in volume of edits. Huang has a little over 600 total edits and almost 300 article edits, while Avian Main has over 1200 edits with over 800 of those being mainspace edits. This shows that Vimes and Whiplash are among our most active admins, but the bigger question, and the reason for many oppose votes to Whip's nomination, is that it is debated whether we really need another crat. A lot of negative votes in nominations for both sysop and crat gave the reason: we don't need another crat (or admin). This isn't really fair to the one nominated, because they get opposition that isn't based on their contributions or work but just because there's a lot of admins or people don't think we need another. --CRAZY IDEA ALERT!-- I've come up with a sort of election process that would help solve several issues with our adminship system, such as:
 * Rushes of nominations (the adminship fad comes to mind)
 * Many contributors being sysoped within a short amount of time
 * Admins or crats could be elected as needed, and candidates wouldn't receive negative votes because people don't want another admin.

I think (and I'm sure someone will disagree) that people should be able to start a poll when they think that we need another admin or crat. Contributors would be notified with an alert, and voting would take place. Then, if after a week or so the majority rules that another admin or crat is needed, those who are felt to be worthy candidates can be nominated. All nominees would have to agree to being nominated as usual. After another few days (gives some time for nominations), we start another poll, this time the poll is: 'Who do you think should become the new sysop/crat?'. All nominees who agreed are listed, and after another week of voting, we have our new admin/sysop!

Just for fun, not putting the system into effect, but I'll put the poll anyway so Whip can get a feel that he's not getting negative votes because of a fault on his part: Do you think we need another bureaucrat? Yes! Let's open nominations! No. There's too many as it is. The number we have now is just perfect.

The one that is about to get brutally shot down and burned (also can be recognized by his messed up signature) - 00:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Correcting my own mistake - Vimes already is a crat. So I think Whip is the best candidate if you guys think we need another crat. I voted yes in the poll, idk who voted that we already have the perfect number though. 00:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, polls may not be a good idea for something such as this... sock puppetry could become a major problem. 00:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm yeah...=/. Still, we could take a vote just not in the form of a poll. I just was suggesting a system where we only made crats or sysops based on need so we wouldn't have people nominating themselves whenever they felt like it. Anyone like/dislike my idea or have a suggestion? Also, I think we should archive this page soon, it's getting a little long. There's a few votes in progress though, so we can't archive it yet. 02:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see any reason to limit the number of sysops. --Wowbagger421 02:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not a limit... basically when someone thinks that there should be another sysop then they start a vote. If other people agree, then people are nominated and voted on, and whoever gets the most votes is made a sysop. It actually makes it easier to become a sysop, because once people agree that another sysop is needed, then whichever candidate gets the most votes will be one. At the same time, no one can be nominated unless it is voted that another sysop is needed. 03:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Support Mmm I see... so you're trying to say I could improve on how I react to vandalism and users for example when I say Total Rune *Spits*? <--Excuse you? Oh wait vandalism, okay, I know now. You mean Total Rune before I smacked my idiot brother upside the head. KK. Well Whiplash I haven't been here long, only 2 days since I beat my little bro up, but I'm gonna give you my support. 10:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Sup-port. We need new crat, and who's better to the job? 12:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Support. With one crat indicating a significant reduction in the involvement with the wiki, it seems appropriate to add another person to help out. He's got good ideas, is a good contributor and admin, so he's earned the crat title. --Miw 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Support - Good user, and I see no harm in another bureaucrat. 01:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Support - I'm not sure why some people are worried about another bureaucrat; you've earned it. 00:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Opp-ose - We have enough b'crats as it is. 06:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Too many? Bureaucrats are respected members of the community who we know would use good judgement. Plus, it won't exactly change his administrative duties. The more, the merrier. 07:26, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Administrators are also respected members of the community, and we may get too many b'crats, and eventually have our whole wiki be made up of b'crats. We'd have to say "too many" eventually, so I say "why not now?" 07:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)~
 * A whole wiki made up of trusted bureaucrats. =D Nominations for bureaucrats don't happen too often... I wouldn't expect another for a while. 07:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute Chia! How can you be oppose and neutral? And too many crats? Let's count, there are 49 (somehow) active members here, and only 3 of them are active bureaucrats. That makes like 4,5% of members into crats. I don't think we find our wiki filled with crats anytime soon. 20:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For perspective, wikipedia has only 8 active bureaucrats out of over 4 million users. --Wowbagger421 20:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd just like to make a point. These are the powers that a bureaucrat has.


 * promote other users to administrator or bureaucrat status;
 * grant and revoke a user's bot status; and
 * rename a user account.

Sysops have powers that are useful to the average user (revert, mediawiki, etc.), but bureaucrat powers really aren't. Giving a trusted user sysop powers can benefit the wiki, but giving a user bureaucrat powers is really just a liability (see User:Shadowdancer}.  I would trust Whiplash as a crat, but he doesn't need those powers.  --Wowbagger421 21:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

No referances to Shadowdancer please. --Whiplash 21:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Like I said, I trust you, but it does show what can happen.  I'm not protesting against you become an a crat (I haven't even voted yet).  I just don't want people to think that once you've been active for long enough you get to become one.  Sysop should be like that, but bureaucrat shouldn't. --Wowbagger421 21:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes that is understandable. :) --Whiplash 21:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Whiplash has shown he deserves this. It is not only that he has been here for a while, but that he is very active, makes very good edits, has a large presence in our community and can be trusted with these powers. What happened with Shadow, however much I may want to avoid that, is probably very rare. I don't think that this has happened, if not 2, more than 5 times EVER on any wiki. Think about it, a sysop abusing their powers and blocking people for random reasons... I don't think Whiplash would do that. My vote remains Support. 23:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What did Shadow even do??? Why has no one told me??? 01:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No one's really told anyone... I found out by doing some digging around. =/ 01:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Sacre, will you be nice enough to tell me? 01:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Shadowdancer was a great contributor to our wiki he did much of the earlier editing, however to those of you that remember couchpotato99. Couch engaged Shadowdancer in an edit war on the bolts page eventually this lead to a climax where Shadowdancer banned everyone on the wiki. After this he lost his sysop powers and some nost saying names treat him as an exile from the wiki. He quit RuneScape back in February 2007 due to a variety of things. --Whiplash 13:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * He is also the founder of The CVU thing. Shadow quit in February 2007? I thought that he was long gone by then. 15:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, he quit RuneScape in february. 15:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Shadow was a truly superb editor, a fantastic content contributor, and used to revert vandalism and things. He was an ideal candidate for being an admin.  BUT, he didn't get on with anyone, it wasn't just couchpotato he engaged in edit and flame wars, it was almost every other contributor to the wiki.   He lived by the Flamer's Bible.  There were several concurrent campaigns to get his adminship revoked at one stage, which culminated in him reacted badly and trying to block every other contributor to the wiki at the time, needless to say his adminship rights were stripped and himself blocked. --Eucarya Talk 11:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought this was a nomination for Whiplash as a Bureaucrat. :O 13:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It is. --Whiplash 14:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It is? From my angle of view this has turned to discussion about Shadowdancer. I think we should end this soon, isn't 16 votes enough? :O And by the way I turn my Support to Very Strong Support. I really think we need another crat when Vimes has left the wiki. 13:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

What're you talking about, Vimes hasn't left. He is merely editing less often. 19:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * But he told me so at the bottom of this page: User talk:Vimescarrot/Active users Hmm... Maybe it was a lie? 20:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I would still like to get Vimes' support on Whiplash's cratship. As it is, he's neutral.  If I don't get a positive vote from him by mid-may, and we don't receive any more negative nominations here, I think I'll make Whiplash a bureaucrat. --Eucarya Talk 23:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's the right thing to do! ;) 11:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)