Talk:Leak/Archive 1

Source of Leak Shouldn't it be required to post the source of the leak as well? I mean, if you post some leak, and people want to verify it is true, there should always be a place to check. With the first three on the list (Summoning, and the two Runecrafting ones), the info is included in parentases, but it's not included at all on the other two. 03:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Doomedrusher|Talk| |Contributions| |Edit Count| 03:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Two? There's only one *cough*serenprayerisfake*cough*. The left parentheses tell you where the leak came from, Since most leaks are removed, posting links would not be practically helpful.

Rework of GE
As from main page someone deleted it idk why prob it was wrong done(you can rework it not remove) on page is screen of reworked GE which someone think it can come up with Clan Citadels update. Also there is screens which hints reworked trees on whole surface

Sailing skill
Why isn't the leak about the sailing skill added here, like it is on the Skills page?



--Magnea8 16:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC) This was confirmed to be a fake and the Skillcape was clearly a Magic skillcape to me. (refering to the article:) How is Water on the World map an evidenve for a Sailing skill? The whole passage about the sailing skill should be removed. You can put it back in as soon it is released ... Stormpride 15:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * See Sailing. 18:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you have the picture of it?Whovian39 22:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Page In General
Comment - What reason is this page unreliable? - --Crocodiles4 17:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Since there is no real motivation to why the page would be unreliable I have now removed the cleanup template from the page. -- 16:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I heared that Ned in Draynor had the Achievement diary icon on the minimap before the Lumbridge Diary was released but i have not seen it for my self. If it can be confirmed please add it Stormpride 15:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I heard that too, think it happened to Bob also, around the High Detail update. -- 16:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Barbarian agility course: high level course?
I've heard that this was added to the game with the skill guides (in game) update... removed shortly after... need to be confirmed

Someone with good editing skills add this please
I don't know how to add links but here's a good leak. The KB pic for Warrior's Guild shot put has a picture of someone wearing what appears to be either a new skill cape or maybe a trimmed quest cape. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/warriors_guild75.132.204.176 19:08, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can add it. Do you know what date they added this picture? Or has it always been there? 23:56, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, idk how long it's been there, sorry.
 * I assume that it must be new addition since I only just started appearing in the Future Updates forum. 00:48, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

a mod confirmed this 2 b a bug. god knows why they have bugs in their game guide.
 * Okay, the back of the cape is white, the trim is purple, and the shoulderpads appear to be DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM THE FLETCHING CAPE.


 * What the hell is going on?? WWTDD? 23:58, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think what happened is this image, as well as the Dragon pickaxe image, has been taken in the Work In Progress (WIP) server rather than the server we all play on, the Release Candidate (RC) server. Consider this quote from the recent Trust Us, We're QA blog: "the content has to be tested in both WIP and RC. WIP is the core environment that all developers use to create content for RuneScape, be it for an update scheduled for the next week, or one for next year." From the sounds of that, the WIP server is quite different than the RC server (Just why the HELL Jagex even bothers to use the WIP server when its so different is completely beyond me, or the scope of this discussion), so items here might have different models and graphics than items in the RC server. 02:50, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

New prayer tab
Well I found that there is a new icon for the prayer tab - Should I add it here? -- 14:33, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure! 17:19, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I have also seen this icon in-game a few times with the mouse effects, everytime you bury bones you'll see the new icon. I think this should be added.~Prowlerath
 * I have also seen this icon in-game a few times with the mouse effects, everytime you bury bones you'll see the new icon. I think this should be added.~Prowlerath

the purple and white skillcape
a mod said its a bug.
 * Can you tell us where? 16:44, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * If it is a bug, then why is it still on the k-base

Ring of stone?
I just saw that someone had added the knowledge base entry about the Ring of Stone, which states that it might have unknown magical abilities. I don't consider this a leak, as this was a completely intentional text added by Jagex, and if added anywhere, it would be to the Upcoming updates page, but I don't think it fits there either. I suggest removal of that and other intentional "leaks".
 * Works for me. Remember, Be Bold! WWTDD? 20:56, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, done, also requested deletion of the image used for that leak.

Block this user
Block the following user:

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.43.131.114

He didn't find out the leak of "total time played" first, he just happened to stumble upon the Youtube video and hastily make an edit on this article about the leak. He didn't include correct formatting, grammar, spelling, punctuation, and all that he added was a direct link to the video.

A fellow member correctly added his entry and edited it accordingly, but the aforementioned user started to "rage" and caused obscene profanity among the chat log, which you can view.

I suggest blocking this user for at least a week.

-- 02:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I have issued him a warning, and if he does not stop he will indeed be blocked. 01:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks. -- 02:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay let's clarify it. I found it before any of you, so without me you guys wouldn't even know about it so technically I found it first out of all of you. I didn't stumble upon a youtube video. I made it. I didn;t include correct formatting, because i did not know how to make boxes. I ask someone to format it for me. Instead one of you just ripped of mines and add something different completely and took credit for it. Then i got angry because at first you constantly delete it, and when you found out it works( i bet my watching my video) you create your own thing Giving me no credit at all. Also your way does not work at all. So maybe now you understand the situation and understand why i might start "rage"
 * You have no proof that you found it before us. Someone had already posted the information about the link, along with a screenshot, before you posted. The fact that you didn't know how to add it properly to the table had nothing to do with it, your video was just not helpful to us, and rather than being mature about it and discussing it, you accused me of taking credit for your work (which I did not do) and then vandalised my user page. The person who uploaded the current image had no part in any of this "exchange" and knew nothing of your video. Your arrogance in this matter astounds me, how can you possibly think that you are the only person clever enough to figure this out on your own, and furthermore, than you did it faster than anyone else? You are being entirely unreasonable. 18:33, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Enough of this. This is a wiki. If you publish something here, you can no longer claim it as yours. It doesn't matter who found it first, the important thing is that it is there and being readable by others. Now, stop being a jerk and go edit some pages without causing any fuzz about it. (No one cares who found it first, except you it appears, people are free to improve it in whatever way they want without giving credit to someone else.) -- 18:31, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Actually.. there was no links or anything about adventurer log before i posted.
 * No. This IP (75.40.139.23) only blanked the page (and a few others). Assuming you're the same editor as this IP, you added a link to YouTube; thats not a source. How do we know by looking at the link thats its not a rickroll or screamer? How do we know its not fake? TehNoobShow added the first mention of the Adventurer's Log here.
 * Also, by adding it to the wiki you lose all claim to it, per RuneScape:Copyrights. 11:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * The IP you are replying to is the same IP that added the stuff to the page. They went on another computer or something. I do believe they have blatantly violated the UTP at the bottom of the next section, so if that was in fact them, then they're getting blocked, permanently this time. 15:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked and he added that sometime before. Oh well 15:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * True, but indef IP blocks aren't usually a good idea, because of dynamic IPs, proxies and such. Maybe a month or two if it continues. 15:18, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Adventurer's Log
This pertains to the 'Adventurer's Log' at the bottom of the article. -- I was reading about a few of the leaks both possibly to come, and already came. I noticed an adventurer's log and thought "Hey its already been released, why not try it out?" Well I've searched all over the RS (forums, customer support, searches, etc...) and couldn't find it. Maybe I've passed it up?? Is this currently active or has it cense been removed? Thanks -- 02:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: Very sorry but of all the places i visited the official article here on the wikia and now realize that it was active for a short period of time and was soon removed, and the official release date is still to come. :) Very sorry about that. -- 02:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC) it wasnt removed http://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/display_player_profile.ws?searchName= see its there

It wasn't a leak anyway, it was released quietly to see if it was working okay, the thread is in recent updates. Also, there was no need to get so aggressive tbh. 17:35, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

No need for exchanging profanity
First off, learn how to properly construct sentences using your best English possible. Second, sign your posts - an IP address is just one of millions across the web. Third, learn how to control your emotions.

P.S. The function is discussed by a J-mod in the Recent Updates section of the forums.

EDIT: WOOT! 12k articles reached on RSWiki! YAY!

-- 02:39, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

A New Layout on the LEAKS PAGE!
Ok, so why not have two sections on the leaks page? One for the PAST leaks, one for the CURRENT Leaks. So like: The Carpentary Skill and the Adventures Log in the past ones and something like the new music tracks in the current one. The past is for things that have been given a update, the present is for things that are new and have not been given a update.

Melee
That Sword is an Iron Scimitar, no need to add it in leaks. 01:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Purple and gold Skillcape
I was talking to a mod and he said that the purple and gold skillcape was just a glitch in which the crafting skillcape appears to be gold and purple.So should this remain a leak I mean,a mod even said it was a glitch! -- 23:21, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I suppose in light of this, it should be removed, however out of curiosity can you cite sources? 23:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I'll try my best to get some proof. -- 03:09, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

New continent
In Mod Sam J's iCould at 1:00 there's a map very similar to RS type but it's not from any place on RS. Leak or no leak (first see it)?

i think its a leak, a long as you are sure its rs. 21:38, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it is reliable enough of a leak. I have not seen the video myself, though I have read about it on the future updates forums. Someone should take a photo of the mysterious desert-like map. 06:24, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been announced that Jagex will be working on a new continent soon, it has already been planned.~Prowlerath
 * It has been announced that Jagex will be working on a new continent soon, it has already been planned.~Prowlerath


 * It's been confirmed that this new continent isn't coming out until JaGeX finishes the current one. I loled at that, GF. at least 3 more years until new continent. (Elf City, Myreque, Ritual Site, Menaphos. Kudos Island is coming out before new continent though.

Credit
I would like to say that I found the picture of the STR and barb training first, since my first edit concerning this was on the fishing page, if anyone should be credited it would be me.

also the time I posted this should be indicated on the history section on the fishing article.

until another person re-edited and cropped the image down. just remember I still posted the original.

also according to my contributions when I edited the fishing article, I spotted the image on January 17th 2010, so march 24th is an incorrect date, these images have been around for a while now and I would know.Davidzx 00:29, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

huh? 11 languages in runescape?
im not sure if it supposed to be there but when i was in the forums was asking a question for the Q&A and i found these language buttons, 11 of them!
 * There have been language specific forums at the bottom of the forums homepage for about a year now. With the most recent forums update they were moved to the language tab with the rest of the languages. Clicking on the leads to their respective language specific forum. I think that Jagex must have a big Northern Europe following as all 4 Scandinavian countries, Poland and the Netherlands all have their own forums.  07:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

leakage
guy that worked at jagex put his pictures up on his site http://www.samuelbeattie.com/?page_id=632
 * It isn't a leak as he is only putting up images of updates that have already been added to the game. It needs to be unknown for it to be a leak. 01:10, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * It does have some interesting concept art, though, (Neanderthal, Skeletal kit) that should be in the next Mahjarrat quest.--Dylandeklerk 18:40, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fairy leak bonus?
I was looking at the video carefully and i think the name is "Pvpworld5". If you got better eyes than me say what you think it is 01:40, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

FUTURE UPDATE LEAK
this was found from Jagex's icould video

http://icould.com/files/2010/03/George-Competition.JPG

more about it can be found here 16-17-687-60886352

someone do something with this please

~Broggini
 * Added. 14:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darkmeyer Leak
What happened to the screenshot about the Darkmeyer map glitch? It was here rather recently... The Mistress of Poison 06:47, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Disregard, found out it was a fake. 03:41, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Black amrour
go to main page of rs the go to the ge price page there type the word "har" and u will see new black armour pieces (my bad its just that i saw them now according to the graph they've been there for half a year)still though it is a leak and the leaks page is semi protected so i cant edit it please some1 who can do it

nope no leak at all it just the normal white armour but jagex coloured it black instead of white^_^

New hp!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/runescape?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/0/cPpjZ7Z9SU0 1:25 Use HD to see it Dmck2b 11:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

94.68.154.26 11:53, August 3, 2010 (UTC)*unregistered contributor*i dont see any new hp,there certainly is a huge leak with the avatar faces though,they all have the new look.94.68.154.26 11:53, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Its at 1:29 aswell 0 = miss Dmck2b 11:55, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * unregistered contributor* yeah i see it now, good job94.68.154.26 12:31, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Animation Pack 1
This is ridiculous, its a waste of loading time for this page, its not a freaking leak, Jagex released it to show the new animations for the Scimitars, the cape is just the Chochactrice cape without the head and the boots are Bandos boots, theres is no leak here. I ask for a Mod to remove this since this was planned and not "unintencionally" released before time. ScionCrush 18:52, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

The update image thing being there before the update is released is not new,you have been able to do it for ages,for every update,you might want to add that...Battleben 08:24, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * The animation isn't a leak, the platebody/cape is. They look similar to things elsewhere in the game, but they don't exist as items. -- 01:35, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Half List on Whiteboard...?
"In the top right corner is a whiteboard that contains a half list of unreleased content." It has the check mark, which indicates its completion. However, you can't really tell what the list is leaking (if it is really a leak at all). So, I really don't understand how it is a leak/completed leak. 13:50, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was a list of unreleased content at the time it was taken. Glancing back over it again, it seems everything on that list has already been introduced into the game (i.e. the Thieving Guild, Dungeoneering, Fish Flingers, Fairy Tale part 3, Elite diary...) 03:03, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The elite clues haven't been added into the game yet, so it hasn't been completed yet. WingsPrime 03:08, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The elite clues were added two days ago... I said elite diary anyway. 03:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant elite diaries. WingsPrime 23:19, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * But it doesn't say "Fish Flingers". It saying "Fishing". And it doesn't have the start of the word "Dungeoneering" either.

Dragon mask face leak?
If my friends arn't lying (and one of the dragon mask pages) there's a leak where if you correctly position the Orb of Oculus, you can see the face under the mask and see the full updated face. I'm not good at editing, so can someone put this in? And better yet, can someone with a dragon mask get a picture?

WingsPrime 02:58, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blood tithe pouch is not a leak, in fact it is an item used during the desert treasure quest.

New song (or might just be removed)
Theres a gap between Desolo X and Diangos song possible new song or just one taken away?Dmck2b 07:20, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just confirmed by Jmods to be a leak Mod Moltare: Seriously: I can't say for sure, since it's not part of my content. It's most likely that the slot was made visible in error during the upload, for a track that's not yet ready for release. Rest assured that you're not missing a music track that should be there.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=Njop9jD80oA/forums.ws?15,16,209,61472265,goto,4 Dmck2b 17:36, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Summoning/Pets
Why is there no references to the summoning/pets "leak" (which was intentional) which included the Bulldog entry on the knowlege base showing a player with a bulldog in .gif form? 92.10.101.182 15:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Clue Fest 2
I think it's pretty apparent that the Investigator's clothing and mysterious book are part of Clue Fest 2. Also, was the Magnifying Glass always at the bottom (above these new items)? We've had many holiday events since the first Clue Fest, so the magnifying glass should be in-between them somewhere. Unless... it's part of the Clue Fest set, mwaha. 20:41, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

What is a Leak?
Though it differs from the definition provided by this page, the definition of a leak according to Wikipedia. The article states that leaks have to either be unintentional or released "secretly". I've tried removing these myself but it is constantly reverted, so I've brought the discussion here. To look over the so called leaks listed in this article;

1) The Soul Rift: This is hardly a leak. If it's release was unintentional, it would have been removed LONG ago

. 2) The Map Leak: While (possibly) unintentional, we do not know what exactly this was a leak of. It definitely not Soul Wars, which was not in development at the time. This section should be reworded, if not removed all together.

3) Carpentry: Not intentional OR secret. Carpentry was going to be a skill but was scrapped very early into development. While it may have inspired Construction to some degree, it was definitely not a "leak" of it.

4) Dragon platebody: This is more of an easter egg than it is a leak. It is better suited for the trivia section of the Dragon Platebody article, and I am pretty sure it is already there.

5) Rest: The "Coming soon..." Dialogue should be evidence enough that this CLEARLY was an intentional release.

6) Scimitars: This was a featured in the developers diary about Animation Pack 1... so how is it a leak, exactly?

7) Video Leaks: The Zanaris Image was released in a video to the public, so it was clearly meant to be there. Furthermore, images of Zanaris had already been released previously, and the coming update to it was no secret. The board with unreleased content does not show enough for it to be a leak - As stated in the article itself, only a few letters are visible. Thus, it is unsubstantial. The so called "Motherland" leak is questionable. There is nothing to show that it is related to the motherland or penguin quests at all. It hardly even looks like an Iceberg. As for the map... this could be considered a leak, but it is far too insubstantial. See RS:NOT.

8) Treasure trail image: This image was released not long before the upate itself. This is not a leak, nor is it abnormal. The image was uploaded in preparation for the update newspost.

9) Dev Blogs (Video and Written): Since these images were taken in Jagex's testing enviorment, they contained features not yet in the actual game. However, the images are not secret OR unintentional, so that means they are not leaks.

10) Investigators clothing: Not intentional, secrecy is arguable. The ENTIRE cryptic clue fest, including the reward, was implemented into the game on it's first day. Theoretically, it could have been completed then, but due to it's nature, you would have had to know what items were needed in advance to do so. Really, it's not really secret - It's just a matter of how it was implemented.

11) Dungeoneering Master Cape: See above. The article itself even STATES that it was probably intentional.

12) Faces and masks: These were simply items released with the new faces before the full facial update, but it was not a leak. It would have been a lot more work for Jagex to release these masks with the old faces when they would have had to update them in a few weeks anyway. Thus, not intentional or secret.

This would leave us with:

1) Thieving leak: This was clearly unintentional. Thus, it was a leak.

2) Soul Tiara/Talisman: Clearly unintentional, considering it was removed afterwards,

3) Trade Octagon: Though scrapped, the release of the icon was unintentional. Thus, it was a leak.

4) Achievement Diary icon: See above.

5) Mobilising armies Teleport: See above

6) Dungeoneering leak: Though the existence of the Occult and Warped sections in the floor select was probably intentional, the ability to VIEW them wasn't. This is a genuine leak.

7) Anything from the knowledge base: While these are questionable, I admit that they could be genuine leaks. I'd appreciate some responses, especially from those keen to revert my edits to this page. 02:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment - I don't see why the edits keep being re-added, but people would rather think that things are leaks and only leaks. I would guess that some don't differentiate between an Easter egg (feature) and a Leak. Some just like to re-post because they might think they just found it, adding new information for the wiki (I know this is a stretch) while not realizing it was removed earlier and as such was documented in the history. 02:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think some folks just like to see the picture they uploaded shown in a page. Generally, I'd be pretty hawkish about removing stuff that doesn't qualify, too. However, pictures of Jagex folks working with some otherwise unreleased info in view I think does qualify as a leak. Their PR/marketing folks wanted to generate some good will, but the people getting their pictures taken/videos made didn't treat the info like it was super-secret black ops strategies. Just because they didn't think about what was going to be in the images doesn't mean they meant it to be released. It was still unintentional. They just didn't make a big deal about it afterward. --Saftzie 03:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem quite right about this after your explanation. I do not agree with the removal of these leaks, however:
 * Map Leak - Okay, perhaps it wasn't meant for Soul Wars, but it does mean that there was something going on there. Perhaps it was scrapped, but hey, you want to keep the Trade Octagon, don't you?
 * Rest - Yes, definitely intentional, but it was removed shortly after "release" and was intended as a leak to let people discover it for a few days.
 * Whiteboard video leak - Perhaps intentional, perhaps not, but it did tell us about a lot of updates that we knew (FTP3) and hadn't expected (Th. Guild).
 * Treasure Trails - You are totally right on that, but we didn't know the image yet and by modifying the link, we discovered the name of the next news post. Alright, scrap it.
 * New clothes - In the new damage system update. These weren't released then, so I guess the mods were testing two things at once. It'd take keen eyes to discover that these clothes and colours were unreleased.
 * Faces (MAYBE) - You are right, but it still gave us an idea of how it would look like. 05:32, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, glad to see there has been some progress.

Map Leak - I agree. That is why I said it could be kept, though rewritten to remove the Soul Wars references. There was a rumor that it was used for the testing of PoH stuff, though I am not sure how true that is.

Rest - It wasn't intended as a leak so much as it was a small easter egg for people who right clicked.

Whiteboard video - Alright, after taking a closer look I'll admit that the release schedule into that image was probably unintentional. However, it would be beneficial to the page if you could actually say what the board says and what it refers to, as it's pretty difficult to make out.

New clothes - Keen eyes? Not really. There were comments on the new clothing in the first few pages of the dev blog discussion. And at this point, we already knew that an update to the player kit would be coming soon, so it's not like it was something new.

Faces - Yes, and while that is significant to the articles for the respective masks, it is not a leak.


 * Okay then. 15:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you really want to know what is a leak? A leak is pretty much every feature we see that are not yet released in-game, such as the Zanaris leak before it was released, some like the Rest feature are indeed Easter eggs, but anything we see that is not in-game, be intentional or not, is a leak. (P.S ty for ruining the Leaks page) ScionCrush 20:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Where exactly did you get that definition for "leak"? And how has it been ruined? 17:52, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that the interesting stuff was removed, such as the new dying animations, the warped floors from RuneFest and things that actually matter, no such trbial things as the new Icons, and wanna know something?
 * Dragon Platebody - Intentional
 * Twneeing animations - Intentional
 * Summoning interface - Intentional
 * Prayer tab - Intentional
 * New icons - Intentional
 * Video and faces - Intentional
 * Clothes - Intentional
 * Cool story, now we have 11 "official" and "legit" leaks. My petition, revert to the old article before you ruined the page as for your oppinion or the "talk" between 3 people. L2commonsence. ScionCrush 20:31, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * :I am confused as to your point. Clearly, if they are intentional then they have no place on this page as they are not leaks. 01:52, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * ::::Ok I don't know what this is about, but restore the leaks page to how it was mk? Thanks. 02:02, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * ....^, and my point is that your "definition" of a leak ruined the page while you clearly dont know what a leak is. ScionCrush 17:04, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever. If your gunna complain about these not being leaks, make a false leak page and have it appear like the old leaks page did. 19:05, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? Can you explain to me how these "leaks" (especially the intentional ones) are significant in any way? And Scion... it's not my definition. It's Wikipedia's, and Merriam-Webster's as well. 20:25, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it actually contained interesting stuff that people would like to LOOK and read, only interesting stuff now is the Warped floors leak, and please don't tell me you're one of those "Wiki says so its right" person, as I said before, have common sence, I already explained what a leak is, and you pretty much edited the page without removed the leaks I explained (to show you're wrong), get it now? ScionCrush 04:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, they definitely are interesting to read and should definitely go on their respective pages. But they're not leaks. 07:36, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * What pages? They got deleted. ScionCrush 16:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't necessarily need NEW pages for leaks. The Dragon Platebody stuff, for example, could fit on the Dragon platebody's page. -- 21:53, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok I have though about something interesting, why not make a new page called "Update Spoilers" or something similar with all the "non" leaks and leave the 11 "legit" leaks in this page? Things such as Zanaris, Trollheim update (from RuneFest) and Kal'Gerion update would fit perfectly. ScionCrush 05:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * How would that be any different from the current Upcoming Updates page, though? -- 16:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because Upcoming updates are updates Jagex planned and said about, while this page would contain insight into unconformed updates, pretty much the land between Leaks and Upcoming updates, if you can say so. And also, the U.D page is filled with too much text and quotes but few images, while this page will contain mostly images and a layout similar to Leaks (as far as I see it). ScionCrush 05:01, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever about leaks
Based off that guy's definition, why hasn't anyone changed anything? Death will follow you... but you can survive 21:36, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I only reworded the previous definition to make it less convoluted and redundant...what is the problem, exactly? Jamesa7171 21:40, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see now upon reading the page in detail: some leaks on the page were intentional and thus aren't leaks at all. Rather than delete the "intentional leaks" from the page (as the previous talk discussion suggests), why not merge this page with Upcoming updates? Jamesa7171 21:53, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't changed anything as I was waiting to see if anybody had anything else to say. To answer your question, Jamesa, it is because not ALL of them are upcoming updates. For example, the minigame icon in the Trade Octagon was leaked, but the content was later scrapped. 17:45, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Facebook Advertisement
I was on facebook, when I saw an ad for runescape that didnt quite look like runescape... http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa448/bunnies1230/Other%20Runescape/oddrunescape.jpg 01:10, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Was the ad places on facebook by Jagex? It's always possible that it was for something Runescape related...RWT, fansite, ect Global Smack 02:19, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

When I clicked it, though, it lead me straight to the secure runescape website to create a new account... 02:24, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am pretty much 100% sure this is fake. Even if it's not, if it is an ADVERTISEMENT than it is neither hidden nor unintentional, thus not qualifying as a leak. 21:45, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I've seen this ad, only it was a different picture. It also said that only like 5k people play. I would definitely NOT click it. I doubt it's an advertisement from Jagex as the picture displays another game... Maybe the advertising company just failed or it's a personal advertising agency just helping out Runescape (you never know). Also, as stated above, it wouldn't be a leak anyway, as it's publicly shown. 21:53, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's runes of magic, a small WoW like game. It's German and most people playing are from Europe. So, Definitly not Runescape ;)

New Dungeoneering Youtube Video
In the new dungeoneering video that was put on youtube, I noticed a new demon being tooled.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4923/ytubeleak.png

I don't know if this should be considered a leak or not. Discussion? Global Smack 16:45, September 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * The video was posted publicly and that image was put in intentionally. Not a leak. 16:48, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Lizardmen is real!
I just found a video of a the lizardmen glitch and it looks prety real to me. It's at 1:20 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8dRRAvhIG8 Krayfish 17:50, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

More removal
Nightgunner asked in his summary to go here before reverting. Well, OK. Explain pl0x. 06:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

About Lizardmen.
The person in the Youtube video is using some kind of program to mess with the rs client, and mentions that the effects are only client side (as most hacking is), so it could be that the Lizardmen ARE coded into the game, but just haven't been released. So, no glitch.

About Lizardmen.
The person in the Youtube video is using some kind of program to mess with the rs client, and mentions that the effects are only client side (as most hacking is), so it could be that the Lizardmen ARE coded into the game, but just haven't been released. So, no glitch. Thegunk1 12:36, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

New page?
Does anyone think we should make a new page to put all these things that don't qualify as a leak? Maybe "Teasers'? WingsPrime 02:51, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like that idea. Why don't you go ahead and be bold and do it? People who oppose, if any do, can talk about it on this or its talk page. 03:04, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Support XzarDragon 21:19, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I can figure it out. WingsPrime 22:15, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, someone deleted it since it was too much like leaks. Such irony. Should I make it again? WingsPrime 23:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem new, so I'll try to deal with this. No promises however. 00:40, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Revert this page to its old self, copy the "Teasers" and then revert back to how its now. ScionCrush 17:38, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. WingsPrime 23:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. WingsPrime 23:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

-- I support you in the teasers..maybe it should be named Teasers and Accidents or something of that sort if you can think of something. 20:49, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to try to make it again. And by the way, it can't be called Teasers and Accidents, since an accidental teaser is a leak.WingsPrime 01:17, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

It got redirected to Update Hints. How hard is it to understand this? WingsPrime 03:07, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Edit wars
C'mon guys, talk it out instead of just reverting each other's edits without attempting to explain it... THE TIME LORD VICTORIOUS 13:09, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

the newest one on the oktoberfest pretzels.

there's alreadya pretzel vendor setting up east of varrock near the workman's exit from the digsite. this is hardly a leak.

At the time, it wasn't officially released, and according to the definition at the top of the page, it's still a leak. WingsPrime 21:33, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok guys
So i'm kinda tired that this page isn't getting any kind of attention, last leak i put in here was deleted even knowing it wasnt ingame yet , i demand you guys put ANY KIND OF LEAKS you find in here. XzarDragon 19:48, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, This is a resource for people. Who cares if the definition is different! No one wants to search the wiki for the "non-leaks," they want to come here and see them. And considering how many times people deleted the "Teasers," everyone else thinks they should be here. And I did notice it says for the definition on the top of the page

Leaks are information about future updates planned for RuneScape that are accidentally/secretly posted on any part of the RuneScape website that discloses information about an update that has not been officially released.

Notice secretly. That means all the leaks you deleted were, by this page's definition, leaks. That should be enough to get everything back, and if not, then someone better get that out of the definition. WingsPrime 21:31, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where's the person that was debating that basicly nothing should be on this page? Seems like he's avoiding us now... Oh, and this page is still contradicting itself. We're all looking like idiots, but I don't think anyone's brave enough to put anything on here. I'm not. WingsPrime 04:34, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dorgeshuun Prophecy
This is about the unreleased quest Dorgeshuun Prophecy, which was leaked information.

Greetings linuxmartin (sorry that i'm not logged in at the moment, but it's clear who i am.). Tuesday 26 october, 8:02 PM

The image looks pretty legit to me. The quest that can be removed in that slot are:


 * Desert Treasure
 * Devious Minds
 * Dig site

When looking at the requirement of those quest, it's seems possible that he have done all of that quest. 10:20, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Legit?
This has only been brought to my attention just earlier today, is there anyone that can vouch for this? It already seems unlikely... being it the Dorgeshuun series is over, and Mod John A is working on the Dwarf Quest now. All I'm seeing is a single picture that could have easily been edited atm =/

Robo Hobo 02:44, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

From the information in the picture, when checking quest requirement seems that this picture is legit. My personal comment is that the they might want to make another Dorgeshuun series as many people love Zanik. (including me ) But, they said that sidekick concept will be use with the Signature Heroes so why they would bother making another Dorgeshuun quest? 06:26, October 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, there is a new quest line each year (summer quests 08, motm 09, void 10), so maybe a second goblin line will be 2011? I don't remember ever hearing they wouldn't make more than one quest line for each thing, but I also don't remember anything saying they would. I could also be a standalone quest related to the like, like how catapult construction was for elf line. Also, wasn't there some talk of Zanik being a Signature Hero? I forget what Jagex said about it though, if anything... It is hard to say what it is exactly (standalone, new line, or fake), but I guess we will just have to wait and find out... Bio 14:49, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Getting ahead of ourselves?
Granted, it's coming this week, but can we at least wait until warped floors come out to check it off? I'm going to leave it for now, but I just wanted to maybe resolve this from happening again. (Although it's not too much of an issue, unlike the debate about what should be on the page. 174.27.76.226 00:28, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Realized I wasn't logged in. Just wanted to accuately sign. WingsPrime 00:33, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

28 June 2010 Leaked Map
It's map of yet to come grand enw area for even yet to come monkey quest!!!

It has islands around, and particly desert, no otehr opinions for such, at all! XD

- Well, Do No Evil came out and this area was not released. It could be the bottom parts of Menaphos and Sophanem, although it's rather big. It could actually be a jungle as if you look closely, there are some patches of green. Whatever it is, it have a body of water in the middle of it, making it two islands or an island with a river/lagoon in the middle of it. Perhaps its part of the Eastern lands.

-Thorblade4

possible animation leak
if some one weilds a dlong they stand differently can u guys check it?i dont have an acc and cant upload image or edit the page,the guy i saw also wore fancy boots, forester hat, obby cape, rune legs and a str or ruby ammy.

Deleting
I was thinking couldn't we just delete leaks that are already in-game, as they serve no purpose.

Discuss :)

Duke Risto, the Dukest of Dukes 15:52, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about completely deleting them, but maybe moving them to a different page would work. 174.27.80.92 05:37, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

What about not making another page, but have two tables on the same page: leaks of which update hasn't come out yet, and then those of which have come out.

Duke Risto, the Dukest of Dukes 20:45, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

West of Tirannwn
Should the leak about the weird area west of Tirannwn go under Current or Historical leaks, as more than something to come out, it seems a simple mistake by Jagex. Duke Risto, the Dukest of Dukes 16:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

If Jagex said that it was a mistake, it wouldn't be a leak, right? So I'd go under Current if they never said anything or remove it if they said it was. 75.174.23.52 23:21, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

chaotic armor?
Wasn't there a leak for the chaotic armors that Jagex confirmed? Someone had opened the skill guide for dungeoneering and gone to rewards and there were pictures of armor that looked like gorgonite in dungeoneering. I wouldn't be posting anything about this normally but it seems like there was a little talk about it and then the topic just entirely vanished.

ok, this is a leak!
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9267/mahjarratchatheadleak.png

Ok, can someone tell me why this pic of the mahjarrat chat head was deleted from leaks? XzarDragon 22:38, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Because someone can't read the top of the page. It's a leak by the page's definition, so I'd put it back up. Oh, and it's WingsPrime, just forgot to login.174.27.120.93 07:56, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Return Of Lucien
I was looking around on this talk page, when I spotted a link to a JaGex modeller's blog:

http://www.samuelbeattie.com/?page_id=632

I was looking around on the page, when I saw a model of a Neanderthal, "for RuneScapes largest quest to date 'Return Of Lucien'." Can this be a leak? There isn't any article about this quest yet.

Return of lucien = wgs, this is not a leak , "return of Lucien" is a development name i guess XzarDragon 12:44, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Why hasn't it been changed then? I also checked the While Guthix Sleeps page, but I couldn't find something about a Neanderthal, but I did find out that the development name of WGS was "The Rise Of Lucien" not "Return Of Lucien".

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8096/returnoflucien.png


 * Definitely not a leak. The pictures under show the Skeletons from WGS, which is also titled Return of Lucien. It's safe to say that was WGS' code name. User:CS1Energypyre 12:49, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * That neanderthal was V.  12:50, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Task "Leaks"
Please don't put pictures of the task system showing an area without any actual tasks on here as a leak i.e. Daemonheim. These are not leaks. Jagex intentionally listed all areas in the game in here and they show either minigames/D&Ds if applicable, or "no task". Aaronjf0 02:15, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

The newest leak
The leak on the new armour from the Voting vids... The new Torva armour? Icecold531 11:53, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

They forgot about the ammo-less bow that is power as the Chaotic Crossbow which they talked about in January 2011 BTS. Two pictures of the armor so far, why not the bow? Notice the pack on the back of the character as well? The pack is probably why it is ammo-less, and it does not look like a regular bow either.

RsDude500, January 7, 2011, Zaros Bow!

1) The bow is not in-game

2) Does not look like any of the other bows

3) The Pack could be the reason why it is ammo-less

We don't see anything else that isn't in game at the moment than the future Zaros armor, and Jagex did say they were releasing a powerful, ammo-less bow, this is it.

I think we should change the discription or remove the leak,seeing as jagex either intentionally put new armour in he vid(in which case its not a leak)or their server was already updated with new looks for normal armour(description should eb changed).94.68.177.171 08:57, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

map leaks
hi does anyone know what has happened to the leaks which were found on the runesalyer map cuz its a development map and shows buildings that arent in-game yet i clasifie that as a official leak anyone noticed 19:04, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Is the only differences in Falador and Draynor? To me, Fally just looks glitched, but considering Draynor's getting a graphical update soon... Oh, and another thing, it looks like this image was taken around the time of last year's halloween event, which seems like this hould be out soon, if it's just not a strange map. And where there does it say it's a development map? Wings Primal 06:32, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leak?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3362/110218205259.png

Would of this of been a leak? -- 12:30, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, just a partly released awesome feature. 12:38, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dungeon Journals
Hey, I don't edit much (as there isn't much to edit), but I just noticed that Daemonheim has it's own task list. I found it yestday, but it was probably there before. Would this count as a leak? What will be in the journal? Will is be F2P (praise the lord)? Most importantly, who will take a picture? --Matacorn 17:59, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Nothing. No. No one. (: Go anywhere that doesn't have a specific task list and that window will popup. It's not a leak, it just shows what area you're in. 18:26, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Updated Fire elemental?
So I was watching the small trailer that was created for the new Elemental Workshop, when I noticed a very different looking elemental. It also showed the earth one in the video, but it looked unchanged. Here it is: Elysian Aura 21:44, March 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Although its a minor leak, it is. 23:01, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Definitly a leak IMO, put it on page :P

FLOOR 60 LEAK!
when you open the dungeoneering skill advice, under floors, it says that floor 60 will requires level 119 dungeoneering. Rhys Darby - NZ pwnage 03:54, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

For how long have you been living under a rock...? Lol, floor 60 has already been released man, look at kb or something before :P

Dungeoneering tasks leak
I have seen it, it has no logo yet but its a strong hint that Daemonheim will have tasks, thanks whoever added that leak in the page, i was too lazy to do that =)
 * It has literally been that way since the release of tasks. It is not a leak. 18:58, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The log just automatically shows what area you're in. It does the same thing on islands, in dungeons and in Zanaris. It's not a leak just the functioning of the task tab. 19:10, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not talking about that, just open task menu, when you select the places like Seer's village, ardougne, at the end "Daemonheim" will show up.
 * Not talking about that, just open task menu, when you select the places like Seer's village, ardougne, at the end "Daemonheim" will show up.

New weapons and new staff looks
i notice that the place where new players appear, explorer jack's house.i saw that when players were customizing thier looks i saw new weapons, like clever and huge axe, and the most interesting thing was a staff that looked like the staff from the old guy on the runescape membership cards. the centre orb was glowng blue and has a bit of electric lightning around it. also all the players names were " #players1345 " each with individual last four digit numbers. this was first notice on April, 14, 2011, in world 155
 * I see it. very curious -- 14:51, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's where your avatar goes when you start a new account and are choosing options. Some of the premade options for styling your character have unobtainable items such as a cool staff, a pickaxe, etc (why they thought it a good idea to show you with items you can never have i don't know). After you select your character's look you then choose a character name (since you login with email these days), hence the weird names. Once done, you join the game starting in Explorer Jack's house. -- 15:18, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Royal Wedding
I'm unsure if this is a leak or i have missed something, but i can't find a page about Royal Wedding, so i guess it is a leak. With the update from today (4/19/2011) you can see on the official runescape page for holiday items the "Wedding souvenirs"

NoveRS 16:04, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

3 unknown staves, surely..
Yet how many other unknown staves are there in Zaff's store in barrels? Would be obvious if these 3 unknown staves won't ever apper into game, i say.. The first staff(on top) does look much of that nature staff from Daemonheim, eh? But yeshyesh, wouldn't say this be a leak, at much.

Clan home server up to 200, wonders..
It surely is rather interesting there, makes wonder is it really a leak, that of that there would be coming an expand for servers, more of them, now that would be fancy, i sat, lesser amount of ppl around, maabe.. But as thinking of recent days, i wouldn't expect them to do such, so i'd turn more to bug side, that it is, simply as that, a bug. Yet to emphazise, for random fella reading this message der, rather care not serious, bc i be having no clue of the whole 'issue' there, just opinions..

I think this isn't a leak, it's the same as the adamant cannonballs: it's easier just to use 1-200 instead of 1,2,3,4 (..) etcetera seperately. Adding more world then there are at the moment is just a way to have less work if they decide to add more world

Lpfreaky90 2 16:48, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Uninteresting. I call Jagex testing-worlds. Vaatikitten Talkpagethingy 19:31, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Daemonheim Task Spoiler
Is this new? I think it may be a new spoiler... 04:12, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's already been confirmed that there will be Daemonheim tasks. (: 04:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome. 04:12, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dungeoneering leak from yesterday
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253833_10150275420101729_59261801728_8827168_1216487_n.jpg

Jagex shows health of all team members while in a dungeon. I've never seen a wolf on a frozen floor either.
 * That's part of the Fremmenik Sagas. 18:58, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Possible leak
I came across a youtube video of a ring of stone update that was accidentally announced in Fremennik Sagas news post that apparently was removed very soon after the post was made. I don't know much about how much proof of it being valid is needed for this to allowed to be posted in this article, so I'll leave it here D:

This was released 2 days after the pictures were released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a73Dyq8PXc

16:37, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Swamp Update
Hey, when I saw picture of the auras from the loyalty rewards video, one was in lummy swamp and I believe the texture of the swamp water/tar was revised in it. My internet is too slow to load video to check though, but it could be a leak related to the new water. Bio 23:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Mirror
Nothing about ti, actually, just that thisplace where it's seen appers to be Tutorial Island, isn't it?


 * Nope, the leak is that the mirror actually reflects the player, rather than just doing nothing. 14:51, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this is a leak aswell. I also got a nice laugh from a Kurt Vonnegut reference. Lol... leak. Floppyc5 15:14, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * There are several leaks in this video, the new swamp visual featuring new trees, a new obelisk near the swept away start point, also featuring new water, new type of cannonballs (it seemed that some were mud, some were grass, some were rock and one seemed to be a magical shot) and the mirror that seemed to be shot in the tutorial island Richard ba 17:30, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Richard, the new Obelisk was there to begin with (Ever since summoning, in fact, but the new graphics came in with the draynor update), and the video seems to imply that the cannon balls with special effects were part of the set of auras. New water was indeed leaked, but we already have this up. Also, I put up the mirror leak. Who took it down? A Cadaver &lt;span style 22:49, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Day and Night?
In Clan Citadels' sneak and peek two concept arts introduced a scenario comprising of two diferent daytime, is this a hint on dawn, sunrise, sunset implementation? Richard ba 22:59, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Home-Community-Media, pictures, there, check all of them

Graphical updates
Media Page

this page on runescape website shows lots of new stuff like - trees, new RC altars, lava , graphical updates to areas

It looks like all but that picture was used already in recent updates, except for the one you show there. I'm hoping for soul altar...

Looks to me like an updated mind altar, you can see the barbarian village fence in the upper left hand corner.

leaked images