RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Dark Runescape Wiki

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Not an article this time, but an entire wiki needs to be deleted now. It may CLAIM to prevent scams, but all it really does is give its users ideas for other scams, which are OBVIOUSLY against JaGeX rules. Why have a wiki about RuneScape if all it's about is the ways to break certain rules? Not only that, but some of these scams are not even valid anymore, like armor trimming, because just about everybody (almost) doesn't fall for it anymore. If a person wishes to learn of scams, they can use OUR article here. Also, the skin it uses HURTS MY EYES. All in all, it should have never been made, and whoever made it should have thought of the consequences (other ideas for scams to use for dishonest players) before they made it.

Support/Delete
Doomedrusher|Talk| |Contributions| 12:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Deleting a Wiki is perfectly fine.
 * 2) This may not be the place to set up VFD, but where else?
 * 3) The Wiki articles have this caption: "From the Dark Runescape wiki - Get Revenge!". That implies that players that got scammed should use the wiki to scam people back. Also, it's called "Dark" RSWiki, implying that it is to be used by people that appreciate the dark side. (Or people that like to scam people in general).
 * 1) Finally, someone has the guts to do this. Stinkowing pretty much said it all. Opposers will probably retaliate by saying that some users have a sincere use for the wiki, but according to a recent poll the vast majority of the users use it to learn how to scam. -- 13:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * But uhhhhh... Is this the right place to vote for the deletion of a wiki? I kind of doubt it, because it's seperate from this wiki. --Mura 13:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose/Keep
Not all of my reasons are good reasons, but these are reasons I'm opposing.
 * 1) You can't just delete a wiki.
 * 2) This isn't the place try to get it deleted.
 * 3) The objective of the Wiki is/was to prevent scams, not teach people how to scam.
 * 4) The background can just be fixed (by Gangsterls, not me).
 * 5) The people who come to the Wiki are there to learn how to scam, but the Wiki discourages scamming, so the Wiki should not be deleted because of it's viewers. The people who go to the Cheats and Scam article are most likely there to learn how to scam. 20:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it is an important wiki, and this isn't the place to ask for it to be deleted anyhow. 21:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

What rhymes with Suppose? Oppose, for all of you are Wiki Greedy people. Nobody cares 'bout ya, mmkay? Beatsta, out. http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6032/bt3sw5.png Done whoozy! 21:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Cannot be done
A wiki that has been created cannot be deleted, merely abandoned by its editors. The only way to get rid of this is to forget about it and stop bringing attention to it. However, I feel that this should be changed into a vote on whether to totally disassociate ourselves with this wiki, i.e. removing all links from the RS wiki to the Dark RS wiki. There's no reason for us to link the the wiki at all, because RS wiki should stand alone. I do not think there are other wikis that do this (disregarding Halo wiki linking to the Halo fanon wiki) so neither should we. Christine Talk 21:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. We have some key people in common, but I really don't think we should link to it.  The majority of readers come there to learn how to scam according to a recent poll.  For that reason and the above reasons, it shouldn't be linked to on the main page or anywhere else. Dtm142 22:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If the Dark Runescape Wiki should stand alone, then tell me why it's being nominated for deletion on the RuneScape Wiki? Ever heard of Wikia Central? If you want the skin changed, have a vote on its talk page to change it back to the default or something, or make your own skin. The poll is irrelevant, as the articles do not explain how to perform a scam, they explain how to avoid a scam, so those who visit to learn how to scam will find no advice to interest them. Also, it encourages reporting rule-breakers, which should cut down on the number of scammers anyway. Finally, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!! RuneScape Wiki users have no right to vote on Dark Runescape Wiki issues, and should be minding their own business and not trying to delete other wikis... I'd oppose if deleting a wiki were possible anyway - the fact that it has survived and attracted its own contributors (over half of whom do not have RuneScape Wiki accounts) is an accomplishment, considerings many wikis are completely inactive and actually should be deleted. 23:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We do have the right to vote on whether we should officially be affiliated with it. And I vote to remove the links.  Just because the authors don't intend for the articles to teach scammers how to scam (your founder actually does, but that's another story).  However, that's how they're being used.  Once again, key people doesn't mean that we should link there. Dtm142 23:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Dark RuneScape Wiki does not teach people about how to scam.The articles teach how to prevent scams, and scammers who read the articles teach themselves how to scam. And if "RuneScape wiki stand alone", then why is there links to places like the Gaming Hub? RSW in other languages? All those links at the bottom of the main page? 23:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Notice that we link to only the hub, not specific sites like the Super Smash Bros. Wiki. It makes sense to link to the other RuneScape Wikis because they're about the exact same subject.  If both were impossibly perfect, then they both would have the same content except in different languages.  They're like additive inverses - the absolute value is the same, but in the opposite language.  And the articles do give the scammers ideas.  For example, I just read this article.  I never knew about that scam, but now I'm free to take it and run with it.  I'm not going to, but I could.  But since I have common sense and know about the guild, I wouldn't have fallen for it even though I don't have the knowledge of people using that scam. Dtm142 23:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

'''However, I feel that this should be changed into a vote on whether to totally disassociate ourselves with this wiki, i.e. removing all links from the RS wiki to the Dark RS wiki. '''

Gangsterls, this is how it is our business, this is how it is not rs wiki voting on drs wiki's issues. This is about just us now. Christine Talk 23:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)  Should the RuneScape Wiki disassociate itself from the Dark RuneScape Wiki?

Disassociate

 * 1) Support Christine  <font color=LimeGreen>Talk 23:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support [[Image:Bowman_hat.png|12px]]<font color="green" face="Verdana" size="1">Tarikochi 23:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support, but allow people to link to it at will. This only applies to Userpages. http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6032/bt3sw5.png Done whoozy! 00:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)