RuneScape:Requests for adminship/Earthere


 * First request
 * Second request

Examples of work

 * Created Grand Exchange Market Watch/Treasures
 * Created Grand Exchange Market Watch/Common
 * Helped revamp Barbarian Assault
 * Added a huge amount of GEMW articles to Melee
 * Am concerned with vandalism and how it hurts RSW as a whole (ignore the title =P)
 * Actively patrol the Recent Changes
 * Created an "essay"
 * Tagged many, many articles and images for speedy deletion
 * Created Template:Dper
 * Revamped

Examples of countering vandalism
           

My first edit ever was undoing this i.p.'s rather nasty edit: 

Reporting vandalism: 

How I will use sysop powers

 * Edit the protected pages
 * There are very few protected pages in the mainspace, so this really doesn't apply to RSW
 * Protect and unprotect pages.
 * I do not plan to protect pages in the mainspace often, bar temporary semi-protection in cases of heavy vandalism, temporary full-protection in the event of an edit war, permanent semi-protection on a "high risk" template (like Template:Infobox Item), and permanent full-protection on pages that should be blacklisted.
 * Delete pages, including images, and their history.
 * I will only delete pages that meet the criteria for Speedy Deletion (such criteria includes personal attacks, nonsense, vandalism etc.). If there is a reasonable doubt in my mind that the page should remain on RSW, I will not delete it.
 * View and restore deleted pages, including images, and their history.
 * A note to sysops: If I feel that a page was unjustly deleted, I will restore it. When I do this I will always have a good reason for it.
 * Block and unblock users, IP address, and IP ranges.
 * I will not be lenient towards a vandal unless I feel that their edit was a "test" (blanking content, breaking a template). Note that I currently do check for proxy or dynamic I.P. abuse; I will block proxies for an extended period of time, and will monitor possible dynamic I.P. vandals for a "pattern".
 * Revert pages quickly via the rollback method.
 * "Being in authority" is no excuse for edit warring, in my opinion.
 * Change the text and style of the interface by editing the pages in the MediaWiki namespace or MediaWiki:Monobook.css
 * If I catch a bug or a chance to improve an interface, I will take that opportunity.
 * Can view Special:Unwatchedpages to see pages which may be more vulnerable to vandalism.
 * I will use this to prevent more vandalism from occurring--don't know if admins already use it.
 * Can flag reported pages as not a problem, fixed, awaiting, or need staff help.
 * I've viewed several reports already, and have a good feel for how to close them.

Addressing some controversies/things I'm not proud of

 * IRC feud -- I think everyone was a little angry when this happened (I said some naughty things to three or so editors). Afterward I took a week-long break from RSW.
 * Total Rune incident -- I handled this rather well, considering how I was stuck reverting his vandalism for months -.-. Resolution. All in all I was trying to sort the mess out

Earthere
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''I, Earthere, accept this nomination for adminship. I have read the policies concerning administrators. I realize that this nomination may fail. If I do get community consensus, I promise not to abuse my powers because I realize that this is a serious offence and if the community finds that I have done so, my powers will be revoked and in extreme cases I could be given a community ban. Signed, Earthere.

Discussion
Oppose - you need to wait a lot of time before opening up new RFAs. The only act of reporting vandalism you mentioned is something you only did yesterday. You also failed to mention that your "essay" was copied word-for-word from the wikipedia essay of the same name. Compare. I went through every diff and literally the only things you changed were links to our wiki rather than wikipedia. Your creation of the treasures page was minimal (even ignoring the insane content you put in to start it..) and it seems from the history of the page that Kytti khat, not you, put in the huge majority of items that are in there now. Again, you also failed to mention that the "naughty things" you said included telling all of us on IRC to "go fuck [our]selves." Anyone there will vouch that everyone there was being civil to you, especially Endasil who ended up being the one to ban you (using this to show it wasn't me with a grudge or anything). You also seemed to have taken it upon yourself to invite back a known vandal with community consent. As Dtm said, you were not around when Total was really editing, and thus you have no right to assume you can welcome him back to our community. A sysop cannot make such major decisions without discussion with others, and especially not a normal editor who assumes they know things they cannot possibly know. And one last comment, everyone knows how much I like deleting things, and I've really never seen that template on anything before.. (another thing though.. you already have rollback, really no need to list it up there..). Christine 01:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * About Total, read my response on Dtm's talk page. It actually was really well thought out. ^_^
 * The IRC business: A couple of people were strongly inferring that "I should respect Christine because she's an admin" and "my contributions were useless."  Others were using filibusters to have me stray away from the issue at the time:  I didn't believe you were acting in a civil manner.  I don't want to dwell on it tbh.
 * I notice that you are complaining about my edits and creations. If you want me to I can dig up many, many more decent contributions.
 * Thanks.
 * No, you should have respected me because I was being completely civil that day. I wasn't out of control, you were. Christine 02:35, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For those interested (and this isn't all of it by far):

[20:21:00]  AndorinKato and Endasil, you guys are complete tools. [20:21:06]  Christine, you're an asshole [20:21:10]  I know <3 [20:21:13]  The rest of you are Ok. [20:21:19]  Yay [20:21:19] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Endasil [20:21:25]  Go fuck yourselves, and goodbye. [20:21:26] * Endasil sets mode: +b *!*@*.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net [20:21:26] * Earthere was kicked by Endasil (Endasil) If you saw what happened there that day, no one called his contribs useless. And no one was using filibusters in any way, if you were to see the complete logs (I have them if need be) you would see that Earthere expected all of us to drop what we were talking about and cater to him just because he entered the room. But we continued with our normal conversations (about wikifest mainly) and yet he still went on. I even told him that IRC was not the place to discuss personal issues (I thought it was common sense), but he ignored me every time I said it. Christine 03:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting your point.

Oppose - I don't think you followed the instructions, Thanx endasil, i know it now. 06:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose - You're the kind of kid who has proven that were he to get mad while being a sysop, he would probably ban half of the wiki in a public tantrum. 12:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral - Well, I don't know what to think of all of this. Christine has a good reason to oppose, and I must admit that I enjoyed her reaction to being called an asshole :P. I have no idea what Buzz is saying, to be honest O_O. And Endasil, I think that might have been a tad bit too harsh...Do you really think he'll pull a Shadowdancer? I most certainly don't. I've had fits of rage before and nobody has gone that far on any of my RFA's. (I'm not saying I'd do that, and I am saying I'd never do that >_>) As for Earthere's edits, I just looked up his editcount. Very good. I haven't, though, checked his contribs. That's what really counts. I can't support you, sorry Earthere. 17:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Do I really think he'll "pull a Shadowdancer"? Absolutely I do.  Shadowdancer was/is a lot more stable than Earthere has chosen to be.  And while speculating on what a future with Earthere as admin would be like is one thing, I'd rather not have to find out in reality.   21:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Notice how I didn't support him... 23:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose - "Go **** yourselves, and goodbye." That's not a good thing to say, and that's certainly not an adminstrative comment. I may cange my vote. 19:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose I have to side with Christine and Endsail on this one, but I kinda went through some conflict when I was making my decision. Like Instant says, I doubt he'll pull a Shadowdancer, and many of his edits are impressive, but his track record is what worries me a bit. Kevin-020 19:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Your IRC comment didn't sound very sysop-ish. Not very mature, bub. Not very mature at ALL.

Read the RfA policies before nominating your self.-- 21:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That "policy" was created mostly by you, has existed for one day, has been removed from the main RFA page because it hasn't been taken to the community for approval, and I personally don't generally agree with it. How could you possibly use a 26-hour-old unverified, unagreed policy against someone?  23:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ironically, I wrote a good 30% to 40% of that.

Oppose WTF YOU CANT NOMINATE YOURSELF
 * It's not that users CAN'T nominate themselves, but that they mostly SHOULDN'T nominate themselves.

Comment -- Honestly, no one should be judging me until Christine or someone else posts the entire IRC conversation.


 * Precisely. That's probably why I'm the only one who didn't oppose...=\. 02:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * At Earthere's wish, I have uploaded the relevant conversation. I have blocked out two side-conversations (that were on-topic before Earthere entered) that have no bearing on the conversation with Earthere.  User:Endasil/IRC_June1   16:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Another request -- Can a sysop restore my page to version before Chia's deletion? Thank you.

Um...I read the IRC conversation, and what did Earthere say I know...? I did not follow that part. Why was my name mentioned? :s 19:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - This comment isn't meant to take sides in this conversation, as I have no intentions of angering anyone or getting into a fight, so I'm not labeling my comment as a support but rather just a "comment". I haven't read through all of Earth's contribs and his edit count but I couldn't help but read the IRC conversation posted by Endasil. According to Endasil, Earthere has the potential to "ban half of the wiki in a public tantrum." For some strange reason, I don't see this happening. To Earth's comments about Andorin and Endasil being dicks and Christine being an ass, I've seen many users say things just as bad and even worst on IRC, ingame, and on the Wiki itself. I have no proof to back up my claim (perhaps someone else remembers), but I remember having a conversation on IRC about a year ago where everyone got a turn to speak about something Cashman did (I can't remember quite what). Everyone got a turn to speak and while someone was speaking all other people were muted. I remember some users getting mad about this and Christine kept unmuting herself out and then said something along the lines of "you guys are assholes" or something, then left. Earthere isn't the only person who's let his temper explode, and this comment is in no way a "support" but just a little something to take into mind. Although I have no proof to back this up (just something I remember) I'm sure many of you have seen behaviour like this come from a lot of users. 20:27, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Jun 01 20:08:13 	adorinkato, it's not just that. Jun 01 20:08:22 	check all of my blocks. Jun 01 20:08:26 	[20:07:27]  [20:06:31]  so spit it out. Jun 01 20:08:30 	Oh, my... Jun 01 20:08:35 	Are we really going to go there? Jun 01 20:08:38 	check all of my "deleted" or reverted contributions. Jun 01 20:08:45 	Earthere, public IRC is not the place to discuss your issues with me. Jun 01 20:08:48 	so. Jun 01 20:08:52 <ChristineV>	shut up or leave.

Jun 01 20:09:54 <Earthere>	talk pages won't solve anything Jun 01 20:10:07 <Earthere>	if I say one thing that may offend you, Christine, I will be blocked. Jun 01 20:10:17 <Earthere>	therefore, I try to avoid speaking on the Wiki Jun 01 20:10:20 <ChristineV>	Earthere, you can try to rally the entire wiki against me if you want, but I do have people that support my decisions. Jun 01 20:10:21 <AndorinKato>	Then don't say anything offensive...? Jun 01 20:10:35 <ChristineV>	Every single one of those blocks was legitimate None of those were legitimate. For two of the three blocks you placed on me, an admin overrode your decision, yet you reblocked me. That's just warring, honestly. Why didn't you look at the image on your talk page and wonder, "Maybe he's saying this for a reason"? You blocked me for referencing "crap" in an image; I had an edit summary, a proper caption, and everything next to it, and even added into its appropriate article. Because you found it offensive, I suffered. And you were in no position to block me after the "edit war"--there was no 3RR at the time (although you did eventually block yourself as well). The edit war was over whether the i.p.'s abusive comment should have been kept, and I thought it should have for archival purposes; ironically, you forced me to keep your "warning" on my talk page even though I found it condescending, poorly thought-out, and rather offensive imho. For the record, and for anyone who thinks I have anger management issues, I removed it to calm myself down, and stop myself from saying condescending things to Christine in return. When I said the things I did in IRC I perfectly expected dealing with what I am now; I knew there would be a mess I would have to clean up, eventually. There have been a lot of things said to me that frustrated me over the past 9+ months, yet except for that incident on IRC, I kept my cool and acted, for the most part, in a very civil way to Christine.

Jun 01 20:13:58 <ChristineV>	And that is why you rally the wiki and I rally IRC. Jun 01 20:14:07 <Earthere>	I don't rally the Wiki. Jun 01 20:14:17 <ChristineV>	You try to get everyone there against me.

Another Comment - Just another quick comments, I don't remember popularity being part of how people get treated, at least not on this wiki. "<ChristineV>	Earthere, you can try to rally the entire wiki against me if you want, but I do have people that support my decisions." That sounds a little to me like intimidation, and how many people support something doesn't tell if it's right or wrong. 21:10, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - Please, this is not the place for resolving disputes. All this page is for is to decide whether Earthere is ready for adminship. Can we please stick to the topic? Butterman62 (talk) 03:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose - I just don't think that you're ready. Sir Lenehan  11:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - To Butter: But then there would never be a consensus reached. I'm not "resolving disputes", just giving my opinion to what happened in IRC. The whole point of this page is for the community to agree on whether Earth is ready for sysop powers. 13:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)