User talk:Aburnett/Archive 4

That soccer dude
Not that it really matters, but wouldn't it have been easier to just protect his talk page rather than re-blocking him? 04:26, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hello again!
Hi, can I ask you a question? There is a blue arrow on the map screen and I don't know if I should follow it. Should I? --Charité 04:07, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is your marker, you can remove it by going to the world map, then right click it, and select clear marker. I guess you've set it by accident which happens to me quite often too, which I think is a bug, it mostly happens when I click somewhere to go, then quickly open the world map, and when I close it, I suddenly have a marker set in a place i haven't clicked.SirRelevant 16:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Pop-out link?
I've played around a bit and I think a good option might be to embed a frame within a certain wiki page that will hold the survey. By doing this, the survey will appear as part of the wiki page, and we can more easily make sure the user goes on to the next survey page. It would look something like this. -- 02:09, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed, although there's not much point in using the modal box now, except that it looks nice -- 18:14, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

survey thingie
So, who has access to the results/comments/usernames/etc? 19:24, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * k, cuz me want. 19:38, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you test the code first? The css & js take quite a while to update the cache, so testing should be done before you put it. 19:50, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * well, it ain't working for me. Same code, no change. 19:59, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * hmm, it should be working, I've checked and that seems to be the correct code. Maybe the custom css is failing to update. 20:10, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * hay it wurk nao. For some reason, I had to define the sidebar in the custom place. The site sidebar didn't get recognized, which is odd. Well, nothing to do but wait several hours to see if it changes. 20:17, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I IZ JENUS@@@@@@ The problem was that the sidebar wasn't updating, not the css. Although the link existed, the cache hadn't been updated after the css was changed, so it still refereed to before the css was updated. At least I think that was the problem. Anyway it should work for everyone now. I take payment in soap, kthx. 20:23, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

ya, a bukkit gawd. So, how is it possible to access the data? Do I need to 1337 hax it or sumting????? 04:08, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * you can tell me on irc or ingame. You can trust me, I never do anything evil except wrongful blocking, blackmail, murder, cheese, poking, and cheese.

So, what's the difference between results and the public results? 17:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. The export feature is especially useful. 17:44, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * When you get a minute, can you come on irc? 18:34, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * it's important, and about the survey. 20:39, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

D:
Dose that mean I has to retake the survey? D: --Coolnesse 20:34, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Significant support
Does "i dunno wat a wikigild is but i <3 my gallery" count as significant support? 19:55, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was going to close that proposal in a few days under RS:NOT and the "weight of arguments not number of votes" clause of RS:CONSENSUS anyways. Though being put under RS:IM where it belongs is a better route. 20:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can ignore them though, per Forum:Have you ever seen the snow? all discussions must be open at least a week. 20:15, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Survey
You should remove question number 17 from the survey. In order to collect unbiased and nonpartial information, any unnecessary information about the person taking the survey should not be collected. If this were a survey analyzing opinions by age groups or ethnicities, then it is all right to collect that (and only that) information about the person taking the survey. Since there is no ostensible reason to collect the name in this instance, I think that it discourages honesty if people know that their responses can be traced back to them. Since it has no statistical value (there is already a question about whether or not the person has a wikia account), it should be removed. Thanks, 01:59, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

wat
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/Rwojy/wat.png wat 03:30, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * SHHH? ABOUT WWAT???????????? 03:33, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/Rwojy/Untitled.png 03:40, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Email Link on RuneScape:Administrators
Hello, I was just wondering if you would be OK with having a link to your email on RuneScape:Administrators. You don't need to provide your email address, as it will be linked to through Special:Emailuser. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks! 20:17, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

UOTM
Hey can you rewrite the featured user template to include Cook Me Plox? 05:34, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Survey bug
Just wanted to let you know that I recently fixed a problem with the survey script at RuneScape:Survey that would cause Internet Explorer users (at least 8, probably 7 as well) to see a completely white page when visiting the wiki page. This problem existed since July 27th, unfortunately I didn't find this problem until today. -- 22:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Conary1
Umm Can You please delete my account and page? I no longer wish to be on this site. Thanks. Can you also delete this message once your done? --

RS:RFD
Doesn't matter if you're sorry. It looks pretty. Beyond that, what in particular don't you like about it? 02:16, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, I just realized that. Screenie pl0x, I should be able to fix this. 02:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still looks nice to me :o - Oh well, if people don't like it, then there's no point in keeping it. 02:52, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

1
Dear Aburnett001, i realize that you have seen the article about the compost potion, i saw it and tried deleting the section that said something like i love you yeah i love you yeah, then someone *coughcough* accused me of vandalizing the page, while in reality i was trying to fix it and convey the message that there was a page breach around 4 PM central time. i hope you get the message

A Question.
On Template:Infobox Item, it says under the update field "|update   = " So why did you add the Update: prefix on the page Saradomin arrow? It showed the update before you did that, and didn't until after I removed it again. 21:54, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okie dokie, just wanted to be sure you knew.  22:35, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Signature
First of all, I don't see anything about the height of the signature on the link and I don't see anything else on the link my signature is violating. Second, I don't know how to change it. Third, that's just my temporary signature until my for one is done.

wow
So after someone mocks us, we tell them to calm down, they respond with, you think they deserve even more chances to spit on our faces? --Degenret01 03:18, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * He may've simply been angry or uptight at the time. He does deserve a block, but should be allowed to appeal (or just apologise and not appeal) on his talk page if he is sorry. 03:21, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I realized maybe you were unaware of his history, so I began to compile it for you. And when I got done, I decided to put it on the YG. All together it was more than I thought.--Degenret01 03:48, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

id="jpeg"???
What do those templates have to jpeg's? 17:48, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Drops
Hello good sir to you too. Your help would be greatly appreciated! I haven't really asked many people yet, so no one except me is actually a member, but feel free to add your name. Some other users such as Rwojy and CookMe (I think) have said they'd help with the gradual installation. At this stage, I think it'd be best if we just do it manually on articles slowly. Once users start noticing it, we can change stuff depending on feedback. If we just went full boar with a bot or something, I'm sure there'll be a lot of angry users, especially since we couldn't get consensus on Forum:Making drops easier. Feel free to suggest or ask stuff. Thanks for your assistance! Cheers, 08:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Recent Changes on User Page

 * Quick question about the list of recent changes on my user page Silybluestar. I would really love to get rid of that section but it's not in the source code. Any suggestions?
 * Actually it links to a Special page (Special:Following), but I would still like to remove this without un-following my pages.
 * You are a saint! Thank you for your help!

:o
If I may ask, what are you doing here? 03:33, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, ya, that makes sense. Lol. 03:37, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Survey Discussion
There are a few things I want to do with the data we collected from the survey. When will the discussion be going up? 15:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

ABF
I'm being realistic. You practically could summarize that part of your comment as "I think he just wants adminship as a trophy like he has on all these other wikis." I think that's reprehensible that you would target someone for being a good editor (the reason why they are probably an admin on many wikis). It doesn't matter how minor it is, you still said it. And if those reasons are why you are opposing, why did you ever bother saying it? 16:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess that's a fair analysis then.  03:57, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Politics of the wiki
I asked the following on Stelercus's talk page, but he kindly ignored me. Since you're also someone I trust a lot, what do you think of it?

00:47, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your identification of those liberal or conservative is quite interesting, actually. I've created a tentative hitlist of sysops who I see as conservative, liberal, moderate, or don't care (meaning they just don't vote in YG threads). Take a look at it on my sandbox. We differ in quite a lot of classifications. 01:13, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

AWB
Hey, I see you're making AWB edits. I (and a few other people) are unable to make a list. Are you pulling a list from somewhere else, or are you making a list somehow? Thanks, 05:17, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Totally forgot about that... 16:36, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Recent changes
I swear if that flood were to continue much longer we were going to need Noah's ark. I honestly think any tool that allows for editing at that rate show be restricted to bot accounts.-- 01:14, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Takes a few minutes for the servers to catch up.-- 01:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Editing overload
Didn't know you could get temp, also you could turn off minor edits on RecentChanges and I'm done. 01:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Stuck Account
Hi, my username on this wiki is 'goakley'. I thought I had forgotten my password, so I had a new one sent to my e-mail. I did not recieve the e-mail, so I tried again, and still got nothing. I am certain I am using the correct email. I found my old password, but can't log in with that, either. Can you help me? 24.238.46.61 22:06, August 20, 2010 (UTC)goakley

I spy a bot
"BurnettBot", what's your plan for it (if any)? 05:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Your recent account
Hi Aburnett, I found out that you were the one who created LiquidHelmIsANub. While I understand that it's intended as a joke, generally it's not a good idea to create content that pokes fun at other users. I don't have any hard feelings about this; I'm just dropping by to convey a message. Thanks, 15:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * The first sockpuppet wasn't a joke; I created that account to prevent someone else from impersonating me. I probably should have put "It's me on a sockpuppet" as the block summary instead of Unacceptable username, though. By the way, thanks for not denying you did it. *phew* I was afraid of more wiki drama. >.< 15:50, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had a private conversation (which is still ongoing) with one of my confidantes in the IRC about this. He accused me of hypocrisy because I advocate equal treatment for IP's and registered users (because I've seen too many users get off loose). He said that the account violated the UTP, and that I basically gave you a slap on the wrist for it. If you did deny it, then it would be a lose-lose situation of choosing to start a "temporarily ban aburnett" thread or rewriting my wiki fundamentals. So, it's quite nice that we avoided the wiki drama.  15:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. It's why I gave a slap on the wrist instead of something more serious that I would have done for certain other users. 16:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, so now that we know that I'm a hypocrite, I was going to delete our talk pages and restore everything but this, since it was planned to keep this stuff off the wiki and out of sight, but if you were going to tell me anyways, do you mind if I just leave the conversation here? 16:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Massive win
I'm glad someone's with me. Too bad we're a minority. 05:37, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar thing
Makes sense, although I'm one of the people who tends to remove the link to the main page on the grounds that it can already be accessed via the image above :P 23:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

BurnettBot
Hi Aburnett, RS:BOT says that bots are not to run prior to approval by the community. It also gives any sysop the permission to block an unapproved bot. That's what I did. Anyways, the procedure says that the idea should be approved first before the bot account is created. Once your proposal passes, feel free to unblock the bot. 18:25, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose everyone jumps the gun and creates the bot account first before getting approval. Anyways, I gave your bot an emergency shutdown link. (I copied it from SmackBot's userpage, so feel free to change it if you don't like that one.) 18:52, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that you can't rename the bot? 15:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with blocking it? If I remember correctly, Ajrbot was actually running completely automated edits. 01:35, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, however, those edit were made to show what the bot could do, and was suggested and endorsed by Az, as well as other users. Also, a bot is required to run a test before the bot flag is granted. The policy is dumb that way. 01:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * The policy clearly states that the bot account should not be created until after the bot is approved. I agree that it's not the smartest thing, but it's the policy. I suppose we could take it up in the YG if you're really interested. (I have a feeling that I'm in that "other users" category who endorsed the test run. But then again, I was a noob back then.) 01:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * The account was created because it was a functional bot already running on other wikis. It made, and makes no sense for me to go and make another bot account for use here, when I already have one. 01:40, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you do have a point. I think the policy was still RS:IAR back then, you yes, you were justified in running it. But, what was wrong with me blocking it? 01:41, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * There was no reason to block it. It isn't active here, there is no threat of it vandalizing, and thus there are no preventative measures required. 01:42, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This happened months ago, the block was just assuming bad faith against Ajr. -- 01:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * The block was just following policy. It's not like I was afraid that Ajrbot was going to become self-aware and take over the world. >.< although it's starting to happen to other bots... 01:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * RS:UCS says that there is no need to block it, though, for reasons mentioned above. Perhaps the policy could use some modification. 01:47, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, why are we debating this on Aburnett's talk? 01:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I dunno. I've got nothing better to be doing :P 01:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

You need to get off mah page (right now). -- 01:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah well, it would spam up the brunette's email. By the way, this is for Aburnett: It was suggested on AzBot's RfA that it be made the "official bot for administrator tools". You could always ask Az to do the sysop stuff if you cannot. Or, you could run an RfA for BurnettBot and perhaps replace/supplement AzBot as the "official bot for administrator tools". This is an interesting legal question. Because we sysop the user and not the account (hence, sysops switching accounts can get the rights transferred without going through another RfA), theoretically you can get sysop rights on your bot without any discussion. However, this is also a bit different than switching accounts, because it's not really you that owns the account. Adminbots have the potential to do quite a lot more damage than regular bots, especially if they are involved in things such as deleting pages. (If it malfunctions, theoretically it can even unblock itself and continue going crazy.) I've asked Azaz about this issue, though he hasn't responded yet. 01:56, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I've closed the discussion about giving BurnettBot sysop tools. You can see my closing statement here for the reason. 15:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thing on Cook's talk page
Hey Aburnett, I saw your message on Cook's talk page, and so here is the answer. AWB will be working again when Wikia upgrades their version of MediaWiki. Unfortunately, this could happen tomorrow, or in 6 months. Sorry I can't bring better news :( 15:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

About that...
No, I haven't gotten it working. Apparently it's a problem with our current MediaWiki version, which Wikia will be updating "soon". Evil and I have been trying to get a workaround by filtering the database dump, but that's not working either. I was just thinking in the long term when I said that. Hopefully it will be fixed in the next week or so. 20:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

page history?
Hi,

Thanks for the response.

Can you tell me what do you mean by "page history of each exchange page"?

--Agamemnus 02:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re:IP edits
A friend visited and i was preparing lunch, so I let him go on the comp for a while. I didn't know it until a few mins later O_O. He's still here, so I gotta go out and play sports for a while. I invite him once every few weeks, since it's almost school and we won't see each other that often, so sometimes we hang out in ths house and play the computer when it's raining. Honestly, I don't know about him vandalizing my pages until now. 19:07, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Checkuser
Sorry I'm on my phone so it took me a little longer than normal to run a checkuser. The IP that you mentioned is the most recent IP of the user and has nearly 1200 edits. Whether it is a sibling or the same person remains unknown, but the vandalism comes from the IP of the registered user. 19:08, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Logo
Thx, logo added. :) 20:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

irc please
it's important. 05:50, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
It's just a pattern that I noticed. It seems that you've never supported a candidate that I opposed, or vice versa. 22:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, any candidate that has received support/oppose from at least two of us has passed/failed the RfA, respectively. Ajr is the only one to buck that trend, after passing with opposes from all three of us. Someone needs to tell him to get with the program.  23:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Noty I'm fine where I am :P 23:09, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

See here. Can you do it please? 18:15, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah really.  23:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ajr already told me those were going to drive him crazy, but there is nothing in DEU that allows him to fix it. Anyways, I have a legitimate explanation that I'm creating a train to take users to Rwojy's essay. I think the caboose, as of right now, is User:Ajrbot. 23:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Facebook Add
Hi, please provide proof that they are infact photoshoped.

Hey
Many thanks for banning him. Though I am appreciative of this rollback tool. Very handy. 05:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
About the person who made this page: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:I_am_not_vot,_I_am_Melon He's an IRL friend & non-wikian RS player who I linked my actual userpage to. He made that cause he has a tendency to be devious. -.- Thanks for deleting it promptly. 05:24, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Clarification, if you would
"If any further threads are made, they will not be a discussion on the legality/illegality of using cache images, but instead a discussion about overturning this decision."

... Are you saying that we should not involve a legal discussion if somebody decides to bring up the topic of cache images again? Aside from the law, there's no other reason to ban the cache images. Leftiness 18:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I personally believe that's a bad thing. Followed to the letter, that statement means that someone with logical points such as "It doesn't hurt Jagex" has a perfectly valid reason to post about cache images. Similarly, somebody posting about a new court case regarding Section 1201 or about a reformation of Section 1201 would not be allowed to post. Leftiness 18:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Aside from arguments such as Not#Crystal, I don't believe there's a valid reason to not use cache images if not for legality. Based on the reactions caused by arguments such as Not#Crystal, I doubt such an argument would hold up to the onslaught of logical reasons to allow cache images. In fact, the only way that I was able to direct discussion away from the pages of logical points and towards the legality, which is what matters, was by out-right declaring the logical points irrelevant over-and-over until they slowed down, and they never really stopped because, logically, there is no reason to ban the cache images. You can go back and forth with logic and ethics for pages - and we did - and never get anywhere because topics like logic and ethics are completely subjective. Anyway, assuming that an RSMV discussion focussed on logic and ethics can be put down with legal reasoning, I have no reason to further question the closing statement. Leftiness 19:02, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

RS wiki cache
"the general consensus is that it may be breaking copyright law" It's not the case. Only Leftiness and a few others are really saying this. "and that it provides no distinct advantage for us to use these images." Again, not the case. Only Leftiness and a few others are really saying this. "Despite the huge number of arguments made by a relatively small amount of users in favor of using these images" The amount of arguments is irrelevant-- their validity is. Those who argue against using them simply have invalid claims, each legal argument against using the RSMV has had at least one argument against that, and in fact those arguing against the RSMV are in the minority. If you follow the many Yew Grove topics on the issue you would see that Leftiness has been pushing the issue constantly (against their use) despite many people telling him "you got it wrong, and here's why...".--Agamemnus 14:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi,

I have not yet actually "debated" your decision...

You could have said "Based on the arguments I have seen written, I think that we should not be using RSMV images in the wiki, and therefore we won't." Instead, you asserted that the community as a whole believed this, that you agree, and therefore "RSMV images should not be used in the wiki". I don't believe that the community came to any consensus, and further I believe that the majority came to the opposite conclusion that you did.

So, to me, -- and I did follow and partake in several of these closed topics -- it just seems like you are putting words in the community's mouth that just aren't there, and I am concerned/disappointed/unhappy about that. --Agamemnus 18:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Bot
Done, though technically the flagging 'crat is supposed to close it. :)-- 02:45, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Signature
Crap, I didn't know that would happen. Sorry about that and thanks for fixing it! 03:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Poke
^ 00:24, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Konami code
Hello Aburnett, I see that you closed Forum:Add Konami code as successful. However, I have to say I disagree with you. The opposition is quite strong, and the fact that the code is "pointless" is sufficient to stop it from being added. As the axiom says, "Don't fix what ain't broken". The corollary to that should be "Don't add pointless stuff", since both statements deal with change to a working system without any ostensible improvement after change. Degen has agreed with me on this point (yes, I know, it's shocking that we actually agree on something), and has informed me that I am well within my rights to remove the Konami code. However, I do want to hear your reasoning, as I consider you a friend, and because I would find it disrespectful if someone reversed a thread that I closed without consulting me first. Thanks, 22:05, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I really just wanted your reasoning for weighing the opposition's pointless argument less than the supporter's "easter egg" or whatever argument. I'm not a neutral sysop, so I'm not in a good position to overturn this. If it's overturned, it would be better for the closing sysop to do it. Anyways, reasoning plox. 22:47, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're a bit late. I responded to your comment before you posted on my talk. 23:11, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Konami
Well I believe I have the right to be mad when [ this] [ many] [ people] ask me about it. 22:46, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have to change a single word I say if I don't want to. Nonetheless, I shouldn't have to say the same thing three times. 22:52, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

RuneHQ
Were you ever approached by anyone from RHQ requesting permission to use an image of the lumbridge sage? 02:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * They copied your version of the lumby sage image for use on their home page, and per CC-by-SA they must attribute the source unless that requirement is waived by the creator (you). I had to ask if you had indeed waived the requirement before sending them an email concerning the image. 03:47, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed sir. Cook the man infiltrated their clan chat and intimidated everyone with his enormous manliness until they removed it. 14:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Deletion request
See File:Playersfishing.PNG. It's a low quality image that's unused in mainspace. However, since it has but one image in its history, which was uploaded by you, I figured that I should let you delete the image. This is the deletion reason. 02:00, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Auntie
That's my iPod touch background :O Did you get it here? -- 22:09, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * nou :\ -- 22:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

account
Hello i have i problem, i can\t login my account pickase somebody banned me and i don't know reason my account is R2ppija gunz and if i did somting wrong plz send me a message

Thanx if u can solut. my problem

By Ernst Silver Konno

Smartnesse
Very clever =P 18:42, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

account
what is clever?
 * why is a duck? -- 19:40, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Image
Okay ^^ I also had my doubts... tyvm! 19:12, September 22, 2010 (UTC)