Talk:TzTok-Jad

Some sound please?
Someone who knows how to insert sound files into the wikia, can you please get some sound players that play the sound the attacks make?-- 21:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Only animated cape?
Are skill capes technically animated? Just a quick question in case this article was written before that whole update came out. I understand, however, that the skill capes themselves are not actually animated, and therefore may not make a difference. I just wanted to put this out there. --Jakfr0st 21:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

wtf
it's toktz-ket-jad


 * Disagree, the big boss is definately called TzTok-Jad 12:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

yup ur right ;-) 14:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

What happens
If you lose the cape... Rich Farmbrough, 21:37 31 March 2007 (GMT).
 * You have to defeat Tzok again =] simple as thatmagic_emote.gif Italian Thief smite.PNGThird Power 21:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Ow, try to kill the almighty 702 again for the cape. Why can't you just get another for free? >_< -- Electric Blue Tanuki  19:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

???
how did this get featured?? its a kinda short mess 10:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry come again
why is it telling pepole not to kill the heals i'm 99.9% sure they don't come back

they do come back trust me 14:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The only come back if you kill them while TzTok-Jad is above half health, if you kill them while he is under half health, they will NOT respawn.Dogtag333 09:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Now all you have to do is kill the healers before they heal Jad to full health. Even if you kill them when Jad has 1 hitpoint left until full health, they won't respawn.-- 22:19, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

ruby thingys (to be technical lol)
right these things are adamantite bolts with ruby heads, when enchanted they are supposed to potentially hit an opponent for 20% of their hp for 10% of urs, does it work with jad? i'll sacrifice 8hp for 140 ish of his anyday. 14:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. But don't forget, they become ineffective as he gets weaker. And it would only do 50 damage if he hwas at max health. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  15:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So, using Ruby bolts (e) will have effect on Jad, that means when he is at half health (125hp) the healers will come. They can't reach Jad cause you killed him already. OR! Should i use just regular racks with a regular xbow?


 * I wanted to get to Jad with my K xbow and later on, use a Rune Cbow with a Keldagrim Bolt sack to use different bolts on Jad, or on the healers with another type of Bolts. Or should i just watch Youtube a lot for tips and hints. And ofcourse, checking the wiki =) 07:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, what I plan to do is use ruby (e) till I get the healers out... or around there... and then swtich to diamond bolt (e)... I figure that sounds pretty effective Boevice22
 * Bolts
 * Bolt pouch, 255 ruby bolts (e)
 * 255 Emerald bolts (e)
 * 255 Dragon bolts (e)
 * Dragon bolts' special effect doesn't work on TzHaar since they're volcanic was the accepted explanation last I checked. Unless they made them vulnerable, it's just a waste of money to use those. Paying multiple times what you would to bring a stack of diamond bolts just to hit 1 damage higher from the (slightly) increased ranged strength is just stupid so without the effect, the Dragon bolts become worthless. -- 04:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

~Trrorman350~ :P
I just wanted the world to know, I beat the 702, but I didn't get the cape. Does anyone know why, because I [really] want it?

Perhaps you left before they gave it to you. Please sign your posts with four tildes. , 00:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

That really sucks, I'm just preparing for my first attempt, got my armour and potions. Now I need to fix my computer. =/ --Dogtag333 13:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

LORD!!! CAN SOMEONE HELP ME??????@??@@@@? This is embarrassing, I sold my zmamulet of fury to fail jad 4 times!!! 4!!! what is wrong???????

My stats are 74(20k till 75 range) 74(2k till 75) 71 def, 55 prayer!!! I get so scared at jad!! need help please!!

I got her halfway down once!!!! 1!!!!! lagged outtwice, and 1 off screen hitted once!!!

@@@@@@@@@????????? please help!! ty !!

Poison or Fire Breath?
Is it possible to poison jad? Also, is it possible to use a fire breath on jad via dragonfire shield or dragon enchanted bolts? ZigyDaGerbil 00:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is possible to poison TzTok-Jad, though personally, I don't think it will be an effective strategy. But I could be, and I most certainly am, wrong. --Dogtag333 13:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Behind the scenes - May 2008
Jad is getting graphical improved =O

06:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait a darn second! Take a good look at Jad
 * His legs, all for are like Dragon platelegs, his head is like K'ril Tsutsaroth, his feet are from Ket-Zek... What the...
 * 11:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Attack animation update
Is it possible to get an updated animation of TzTok-Jads attacks? Dogtag333 09:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest you ask Tarikochi about that. -- 14:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

spirit beast vs. TzTok-Jad
TzTok-Jad, is still stronger if you ask me. Yefpatterson 18:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Pures are all about proving that combat levels don't matter, so I agree. Sir Revan125 22:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Since Jad has a higher strength level, he is stronger. Yet the Spirit beast has more stamina. 06:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait...
Why would ranged be more effective than magic against the Jad?
 * The TzHaar and their pets are magic-resistant. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  09:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also doesn't help that ranged is more accurate, can actually equip real armour without sacrificing said accuracy, and has similar (at the time Jad came out) and now higher damage potential. -- 04:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Jad's stubbed toes
Has anyone else noticed that part of Jad's toes are under the lit up parts of the floor, rather quirky looking imo. 02:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

the old jad...
i think the old jad looks the best and the new one is too complicated to work out

fadalisdestroyer 20:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

is it possible
to kill jad using a dwarf cannon?

just found out that it is 'too hot' to set up a dwarf cannon :(

Animated Jad Practice?
tryed this on yew grove but got kicked so gonna try it here...

well i was doing jad lately and wanted to find good sight to practice. well not any good ones really so i was wondering if we could make a tottaly new page for practicing jad only. like add kind of like your almost in the game with prayer switch in random order and sounds as well. almost like a mini game some-what on the wikia where u are in the game and if u mess up you just restart. we could also just record someone fighting jad with sounds and prayer switching and enlarge to full screen or just what ever we can do... anyone wanna try and do this thing?Hmanballer 05:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure we can't create simulations on Wikia. 06:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Well couldnt we just like make a page where someone records with sounds and prayer switcing and someone could practice on the screen cause no good other sightes with it.Hmanballer 22:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

The only way to do this is to use a private server, and that is against the Rules of RuneScape. It's not gonna happen. 22:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

well im not exactly talking about making a game or some type, but someone simply to record themselves fighting jad and recording the sounds that go with the attacks. All im thinking is something along the lines of a page that has jad recorded with correct sounds for about 1-2 minutes. And just a little information about jad himself such as the info box on reg jad page and just some fight techniques exp: karlis armor with rune cross bow and 200+ diamond olts (e) for jad himself. so not exactally alking about making a simulation i learned that that is impossible on the wikia as killr833 mentioned but just simply a page with the info above.

(4 some reaason internet wont log me in=/ lol) Hmanballer75.104.212.87 02:57, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

If someone tried really hard, then surely they could make an interactive Flash animation for this? Obviously it depends if Flash files can be put on the Wiki, but if they could then this would be a good idea. It wouldn't really be a private server because it is simulating a single part of the game and you wouldn't even be logging on, you would just use it. You could ask Jagex for permission to create such a thing for the Wiki as well if you wanted. Or you could just ask Jagex to make the entire thing :S 88.104.103.244 17:16, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Jad hitting 109
ehh somebody messaged me asking how it's possible for him to hit 109.

Saw the video of this sent to by friend TONIGHT immediately after he got the cape... for the 76th time...

He is maxed in combat, 138, so 99hp/def and he brewed to 115

the cannon exploded on him, causing him to run up and punch jad.

Jad then meleed him for 109, he survived with 1hp and managed to kill him.

That's how he hit 109. Happy?


 * Yep. Thanks for explaining. 05:41, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

You're wrong unless you can show a video of this happening.

Rough Translation???
How does it translate to fire obsidian elemental???

Look:

Tz: Fire Tok: Rock Jad: Elemental

Fire Rock Elemental.

Its: TzTok

-not-

TokTz

I'm changing it

tok does not translate directly into rock. while tztok-jad can translate into that, it is not the case here as he is made of obsidian rather than rock.

Animation overlaps
Ok, so far, I have had 2 successful attempts at getting the jad to half health, but for some reason, whenever he gets like that, he seems to sneak in a few attacks without doing the animation. My guess is that he is busy doing the "hurt" animation, so he does that and still attacks. Also, the stupid orange glow might have something to do with it. But anyways, can someone please tell me how to keep knowing what he is doing? I don't wanna try again and just die at the same spot.-- Long Live Armadyl   20:00, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

I just recently had this problem when jad was half health i couldn't get him any lower...and he eventually just killed me somehow... but i tryed again and tryed to kill the healers. I found that this works and then found out that this was a 'hidden update' so instead of simply traping the healers your have to kill them but they will not respawn. I now am a proud owner af the Fire Cape!!! Hope this helps out -- 20:30, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

WARNING: when the healers appear and they heal jad, you might not see the magic animation. You should listen to the sounds EXTREMELY carefully
 * So should we add this information into the article? I mean it still suggests the old trick and doesn't really clearly state that the healers must be killed first. Red X 226 08:04, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Quote from the 10 January newspost:

"TzTok-Jad has had his magic attack animation priority raised above his defend animation, making it clearer when he's about to use a magic attack." So it should be easier to see now. --Runerune239 11:26, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

thx
usefull content,i killed all healers then ran back to safety, and here im taking my to get my calm back -.- my hand was shaking almost died :P

take my time*
eww

Record?
Somebody included the current record as 1itemdbow's, even although he stood up deflecting Jad's attacks for hours (*sigh*) which probably took at least 500-700 off Jad, and Jad records basically doesn't exist anymore -- anyone who can cast vengeance, do 2 claw specials and switch to gs for the killing blow can claim a new record, as already done by The Murder21, woox16, sushidame and so many others.. IMO Jad records don't exist anymore until somebody 2-claw hit jad without GS hit and without deflecting hella lots of damage, or something faster than that, I wouldn't say who has the current record as the people who I cited before keep fighting each other setting obscure rules to Jad records much worse than the no deflect rule, such as "no hidden hits" and a lot more.. I'd say that anyone with maxed melee and overload/turmoil etc. can easily veng/2 claw specs/gs hit (as even I did that) so there's no worth Jad record by now and I'd vote to keep the RS Wiki out of their dispute.

"ok read carefully, i know 1item dbow is a GREAT pker, i love his pk vids, but i took a look at his vid right when it came out cause im subscribed, and i noticed how he started timing AFTER he was doing the dragon claw animation, a little late. AND, he had done some damage to jad with the deflect prayers beforehand. Besides that, look at 2 other things: claws take 2.4 seconds to attack. so if the timer starts right when the 1st spec is starting, right when the 2nd spec is gonna start, the timer SHOULD be at 2.4 seconds. Then after the 2nd spec the ags is gonna hit at a time of AT LEAST 4.8 seconds. Now the murder21 used the same strategy as 1item dbow, except he misclicked trying to attack Jad with his ags, so he was slightly delayed when he right clicked jad a second time. But he didn't do any damage to jad with deflect prayers as far as i'm concerned."

Above copied from Zezzima so I could get it off actual page.

Now onto what I believe- if you watch Woox's video he explains the records. And he is right in this. 1item dbow clearly was late at starting the timer/early at ending it and just trying to get a claim to fame, but he really doesn't deserve any of it. 23:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, I've watched that video before, it's mostly from where I took the info which I posted before. Thanks for listening. Also I'd like to note that affter 10+ times killing Jad with ranged, the first time I did with melee was MUCH easier than any time ranging, thus "rushing" Jad down is more likely to become a pretty popular approach by high levels and I can foresee a good one hundred+ videos claiming records by now.. That's because I considered 'no worth record' anymore, as everyone does basically the very same thing and it's meaningless to fight over something as stupid as who can rush Jad faster etc. Anyway, let them keep with the struggling if they want to. Thanks.

Uhm some advice would be helpfull.. thnx
Uh, i got like 73 ranged, and 74 defence,

so i UNDERSTAND i CAN'T kill Jad yet,

so do have to train my RANGED to 75, OR 80?

and my DEFENCE to 75+ too?

and what BOLTS should i use ?

Thnx in advance

Hey, I'm trying to kill TzTok-Jad too. I only have 70 ranged (almost 71) and 74 defense (73 when I started, it gained from longrange attacks). I've gotten to Jad but panicked when healers came and got "KOed" by the massive level 702 beast. Got a bad spawn anyway. Well I got him to half health considerably faster than I would have thought. Use Diamond Bolts (e) and a ranging potion! And that prayer... Eagle Eye? Jad has 2550 life points (255 constitution), but can one-shot a maxed-out combat player!

I'm currently trying for jad, too.

I'm 76 ranged, 80 defence. TBH, i find that the ranged and defence levels aren't as important as prayer, as you will be doing a lot of praying once you get to wave 31.

HOWEVER, 74-75 defence should work fine, as should your ranged. (i actually got about 50k ranged xp from wave 25-61). But, the guy above me is right. Diamond bolts (e) are your best friend here, as are ranging pots.

Jad at 60 ranged?
Yeah. i saw it with my bare eyes. no veng. it was like... wow. then i thought i could do it. i'm 77 ranged and 73 def. 60 pray. when i get 94 mage i'll try. again. because i tryed 3 times now and jad keeps killing me. any advise?

Jad only kills you when you mess up with the prayers. You can do him at 1 range with a bronze crossbow if you wish but that would take ages. Just concentrate and look at him carefully, and be sure not to do any stupid things when distracting the healers. - Markus92 12:46, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

If you'd try to kill TzTok-Jad with a bronze crossbow and lvl 1 ranged you'd run out of prayer before you'd have healers to distract. -Spoonz

TzTok-Jad featured article blurb is pre-Constitution
When Jad's page comes up as the featured article, it says "can hit over 90 on those not using protection prayers". I was unable to find this anywhere I could edit it, and I'll also post this onto Jad's discussion page.ledzepmtg in most reference frames 01:57, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Corporeal Beast and Jad - POSSIBLE RELATIONS?
Looking at their structure, posture, and horned design, is it possible that Jad and the Beast are both somehow related? Or at least built using similar models? Taneer 05:00, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

probably smilar

Well, if the Revenant Dragon is the dead version of the Dragon, maybe the Corporeal Beast is the dead version of Jad.

I can get behind that theory. I think maybe more should be read into this. Or less, depends on how insane I am. Taneer 23:30, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

The "Level 41"
Ok, so someone posted this is in trivia. However, I have actually seen this person at Mobilising Armies with a Fire cape, at lv 41. They even used quick chat, and said their prayer level was 22, so I don't know if they just got lucky or glitched, but they did get a fire cape. Elysian Aura 22:17, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Elysian, they proably got reset by jagex for botting and still had the cape.

Vandalism
Revert needed. --Limxzero 12:01, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Distracting healers
"An invisible update made it so that the healers heal Jad even if they are attacking you. A lot of players found this out the hard way and were killed, so now a common practice has been to kill the healers as soon as they appear, assuming Jad is still under full health."

WHAT?! If that's true it's gonna be even harder for me to get the firecape! Could someone please confirm this/post proof?--Runerune239 11:39, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can confirm that that's NOT true as for yesterday evening. I distracted them and killed Jad just fine Markus92 12:45, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

On my first few attempts I also had problems with Jad being healed, despite having the healers standing next to me (and attacking me of course). After a quick search I found out they heal him when you're too close to Jad. The only way I managed to stop the heals was to use a longranged attack style.

Killing the healers is not advisable, since they will respawn fairly quickly. [Haven't tested this myself, only saw multiple people warning about this, so I could use some confirmation here] -- Lithcube 20:43, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Using Vengeance on Jad
I'd like to point out that Jad does not send out healers when he is hurt only with vengeance. He also doesn't send out healers when you use only deflect curses to damage him but that is already in this article, I just wanted to add that vengeance has the same affect.

[here |Here is a video] I was linked showing this. I personally vengeanced him under half HP and he didn't spawn healers. I'd like to invite others to confirm this if the fact is in dispute, but for now I'll be adding it to the article. Elpasojerry 03:01, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Am i the only one that thought it would be funny to veng yourself, drink sara brew, take prayer off and run up and kick jad or dclaw spec him to watch him suffer from his own damage? just thought it would be funny 75.216.60.140 23:53, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Leech and Sap curses
Is there any confirmation that the stat drains from Leech and Sap curses actually affect Jad? 62.107.131.100 02:24, July 5, 2011 (UTC)