User talk:Stinkowing/Archive 3

If you edit this, a wild Qwilfish will rip your head off! XD

Archive
Hey there, I have archived your talk page as it was getting so long and as you left you wouldnt havent be able to do it. 15:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't that long... and are you sure he's left? 16:06, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought it was in need of an archive and i am sure he left but i think he is back and trying to calm down as i saw him post on Lady nayda's Talk. If you dont belive that he has left look at the second archive,Named 'the fire page'.

11:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh and stinkowing.. I got you some stuff.

And....

Hope you enjoy them.

11:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sadness
Me, as a boy would probably never say this, but im getting quite sad at how other wikians are treating you. You obviously deserve to be told calmly if you do something wrong, not shouted and put down by other wikians.That is all. Hope to see you around the wiki again soon.

NOTICE Fellow Wikians, isn't this is a communitised wiki? 17:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi
From the Yew Grove:

A comment from Total Rune

 * Hi, I'm Total Rune. Before you go to remove this comment due to my infamy here, please fully read this. I was directed here by my friend Daedryon. He told me he was personally worried about Stinkowing, as he had read Stinko is autistic and contemplating suicide.

Firstly, Stinko, I want to fully apologize to you, as well as the entire RuneScape Wikia, for my actions, which I am thinking are one of the lesser reasons behind this current change in your life. Speaking man to man Stinkowing, I know what you're going through. Believe me, I've thought about it too. But it's not the right thing to do. There are many people in this world who care about you, and would blame themselves if you did go through with suicide. What you need right now is someone to talk to, to open up to and discuss your problems with. I want to direct you, if you are reading this, to this site: Suicidal Help Group on IMVU. This is where I went when I was feeling down. The owner of the group is a close personal friend of mine, and she's helped me through alot. You won't be criticized or anything on this site.

Onto the autism. I also know abit about autism, as my cousin is full-on autistic, and currently in a group home for children with autism. Autism is a tough thing to live with, but I can't vouch for that, as I'm not autistic, but actually ADHD.

I'm gonna end this reply now. Stinko, if you are reading this, and you need someone to talk to one on one, you can always email me or add me on MSN, my msn is quotetheraven666@live.ca, or as I suggested above, try the Suicidal Help Group on IMVU. We care about you Stinko, and I know I speak for the RuneScape Wikia when I say we'd miss you terribly if you did die. 76.76.3.121 04:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, I forgot to say, about Stinko's comment "I think that revoking my sysopship will hand the victory over to Total Rune. This in itself is HUMILIATING!", believe me Stinko, you getting your sysop status revoked does not make it a victory for me. All I care about is seeing you get some help, because I'd hate to hear that you killed yourself =( 76.76.3.121 04:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * '''Just thought I'd post this here, in case you didn't see it on the Yew Grove, Stinko. And yes, it's me, Total.

Flambeed
On 29 March 2007, you uploaded an image of Flambeed from Recipe For Disaster, but the picture you took was from another help site, Tip.It. The Wiki cannot accept use of images taken from other helpsites, so in the future, please only upload images you have taken from screenshot personally. I R Zaros 10:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!
00:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Signature
Hi Stinky! I have, again, a problem with my signature. Take a look at my guestbook, where you can see my signature, and then, the sentence under it, a dot and the time&date. Perhaps its a typo, but I can't find it. See you in world 60!--. 12:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Thanks for reverting
No problem. I was sitting there watching recent chances and all of a sudden I saw a couple peculiar edits pop up on your pages made by a "Longliverussia". I checked one of them and the first thing I saw was "For the motherland!!!!!!!!". O_o I would definitely recommend protecting your pages so that doesn't happen again. 20:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Question re: Slaying
What tips, if any, do you have? Trying to grind through levels 30 to 55 so I can slay Jellies and use Slayer Dart. :) --Eternalseed 19:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well darn. Thanks though for the answer. Question: What. . .is lacking in the Slayer training guide to make it more...up to Wikia Guidelines? [[Image:Guthix_crozier.png‎|25px]] Eternalseed   [[Image:Guthix_book.png‎|25px]]

Corrupt Ancient warriors Equipment..
Hmm you've deleted the page I put the deletion tag on: Corrupt ancient warriors' equipment, but what about the other pages, set, items, and the template? Can you fix them all? 01:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Stinko! As per the Template:D you're supposed to "check what links to the page, the page history, and the page log." before deletion! It's helpful you know to like avoid creating wanted pages. 22:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Animal Crossing
If I can figure out how to get the internet on my Wii working then that sounds great. As for WiiSpeak I've never actually used it so you'll have to show me how. :P

I should warn you ahead of time: I'm a noob on City Folk since I haven't had the game for very long, lol. 20:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope, I'm going to try to get that internet working tonight though. I'll let you know when it's fixed. 01:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * IT WORKS. I'll get the friend code for you after it's done performing a system update. 02:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving Picture Screen Thing
I don't know why you locked that section, but nobody answered about that Moving picture.

And, like this picture. . It is an animated gif about 20 screens. What program can you use? Hypercam records MOVIES not PICTURES

Why all the Fuss
Stinkowing, why all the fuss over a joke. I am sorry it offend you and you needed to lock the thread.

My father used to get his knuckles wrapped with a ruler by the nuns at his High School. This was some time ago, but it is a fact.

My old High School coach got ask to retire for being to tough probably 12 years after I graduated from High School. Fact kids can have that impact.

A few years ago an article was printed in the newspaper about kids getting out of college and learning how tough life really could be. In short they stated everything was handed to them as kids and would expect a job out of college. Some of this was related to a great economy at the time that was getting ready to take a turn to where it is now. This is a fact of life and its history as well.

I am a bit older than most here a most likely have a much better understanding of the joke and the deep history related to it.

Sorry Again,

 Hammer2092 20:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

About the thread...
I am here to calmly talk about the fuss in the forum thread. I will not say the word again in the forums, I guess, but I do strongly believe I was right in saying it.


 * 1. I was using the word about an object, the video in this case, not a person. Totally different then your analogy with much stronger language.


 * 2. You say words are bad? The video you posted was of something that could easily prove fatal. On the news they censor where people get killed for a reason.


 * 3. I just called something retarded. You said it could offend and hurt many people. How you you explain the title of the thread? HOLY WTF!!! This contains an acronym for a swear word! Fuck. It also could easily offend religious people, by using of the word "holy" and "fuck" in the same sentence, over 95% of the world's population.


 * 4. If my comment was so bad, may I post some comments from the video you uploaded? PornStarKid90 said: 'lol!!...dats all fukd up....xoxo =uP" A highly inappropriate name and comment. You have options to remove this...


 * 5. You also said: "WTF? It's just Jack getting hit by a frickin' bus over and over and over!" This implies violence, comedy from violence, and swearing.


 * 6. Why is it OK to use words such as what follow, even you did warn them and I can't use a mild, mild, mild word such as retarded?: "What if someone called you a nigger because you were black? Or a motherfucker because you hurt them somehow? Or a chink because you're Asian?"

I just want to know why saying "retarded" isn't OK but the above things are...?!?!

Sincerely,  Jediadam4  (Talk)   01:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Please keep our conversation calm and mature as I did, so no banning or blocking is committed.


 * I would like to know, in the interest of fairness, exactly what sentence/paragraph that Hammer2092 said for him to deserve to be "warned". I know why you are giving one to Jedi and I strongly disagree with it based on things you posted in the thread. But the "warning" to Hammer is absolutely ridiculous and without any basis or merit whatsoever.--Degenret01 09:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Guess what?
Vho says you're abusing your powers now! We should totally start a club! ...but seriously, this has to stop. Simple solution: reprotect his talk. This is insanity. 23:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Because Vids are for Sharing!
I dunno if you've seen either of these yet, but if you haven't, you really should. So, here's 9 minutes of laughs, if you haven't seen them before.

This one kinda sucks for the first 3 minutes, but the rest of it is pretty good (especially the last minute to 30 seconds of it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYVDQA49hzc

This one is alot like your Mario Head YouTube Poops, so I think you'll like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjmkfQb5fG4&NR=1

My apologies if you've seen them before, but I thought you'd want to see them if you haven't. --Pikaandpi 17:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

About the so called "R" word...
Ok, this may sound like a lie or a lame excuse, but honestly, I didn't know that was your video... I have subscribed to so many people and been on so many channels I can't keep who's who's straight. Now, I know your channel, and I will memorize it. I must have said that same exact line on 10% of the videos I've commented on. I won't say it around you again.

And why can't I say dumb or stupid? Who knows, this might offend people with lower IQs... Or say sucks? This might offend people who like sucking, if you get my drift.

Jediadam4 (Talk)   23:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Paranoia
I see spam everywhere. Plus, he didn't have any other edits. WWTDD? 00:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Spore?
Where is the poll option for having gained the 42 staves of life? Arsenal 7149 02:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Gratz
Gratz on the 99 cooking!!!!! Glad you finally achieved a 99! :) -- 03:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You forgot something
You forgot to cross out "Get a 99" on your goals section on your userpage. 15:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

GRATZ!!
M8 gratz on 99 cooking its late though your going better than me in the 99 game (just cant do it =P) Man tag (Talk)

The almost-secret that I said that I was going to give you a Wikia message later about
Long title, huh?

Anyway, this is generally how it works:


 * 1) One Clan Chat gets crowded with most/all of the high levels (120+) on a team, and a bunch of the other teammates.
 * 2) If the team they were on wins, then many lower leveled players would want to get on the winning team. Because of this, the average combat level on that team will go down, and it will be weaker than it was (remember, only so many people can get in the arena). The other team will have a higher average combat level, so the Clan Chat members go to that team, as it would be more favorable.
 * 3) If all goes according to plan, then the team that won would have be weaker, while the team that lost is considerably stronger (higher average combat level and the high levels from the chat joined it), and then wins.
 * 4) If the team that lost originally won, the Clan Chat members then go back to the team that won in the first place, as once again, many players migrated to the team that won most recently.

Now, I know that that may sound rather levelist, but that's generally the way it works. I read this on a thread on the Official Forums. This is most likely to happen on World 44; you won't find massive Clan Chats on every world, you know.

In other news, listen to Gigi D'Agostino's "Zig Zag". It's a great Lento Violento song. :)

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...What? You don't like Lento Violento?! Well, forget you! :( 06:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry.
Hi, I just stopped by to say I'm sorry for all the problems. There were times I was right, and times you were right, but let's put that behind us. I should have known others might be offended even though I'm not. I also should have discontinued our debates, between you and I and between Dtm and I.

Soul searching ftw, sincerely,  Jediadam4  (Talk)   10:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC) - Best of luck in your future.

i just thought...
i just thought i would say hi so if i ever go on an RFA you won't say you've never heard of me. please don't take this as a time wasting thing. 14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Umm... What Happened?!
After I left, apparently, Christine's joke went WAY out of control, and extended to trolling and you kicking Jediadam. Just want to hear your side of the story now. Still am greatly confused about what went wrong.  Doucher4000 03:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

crash bug
Hey stink, I like that version you erased as it is a nice warning that does not give tricks or tips on how to cause it. Would you be opposed to me restoring it? --Degenret01 00:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Countdown to 99
You still have not [ signed up] for countdown to 99.

MUDKIPZ
I HEAR U LIEK THEM

16:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Question
Heya Stink, Just have a quick question: Are YouTube videos allowed to be embedded? I met you once before in-game, so you may remember me for being ranked in Team Penguin. I started making weekly YouTube videos of the penguin locations about 9 weeks ago or so. Two weeks ago I started embedding them onto the Distractions and Diversions Locations page to help players better understand where the penguins are. There ARE a couple references to Team Penguin if the player needed help with penguins. There are Riods supporters apparently who dislike the video all together (who are NOT RS Wiki Admins) who have deleted the video for the second time from the page. Personally, just because a few people are against the group doesn't mean that they can ruin the help that it has provided with Over 1,200 players (going by views from last weeks video). The video is definitely more help than advertisement. I checked, and I am the ONLY person creating weekly penguin locations videos and posting them on Youtube. If they really want an add-free helpful video, they can make it themselves.

Guess it wasn't quick, but thank you anyway for your time. Boomer12342 21:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

ME AGAIN
you cant control who i am or what i do so get out of this
 * Oh, really now? You'd rather support a rule-breaker? Sad...and before people like Diber get to this...he's quitting because he didn't agree with Cruser's block. Notice that I never told him I'd ban him/block him/ect...!

Don't let it get to you
I have noticed the current discussion against you keeping your sysop powers and my advice is to keep a cool head, and don't make any rash decisions in anger. I have noticed that they have got to you mentally, and if you let that get the best of you they will win. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in this ordeal.

08:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I support you 100%... While we dont always get along those hypocrites dont see the big picture. Use me as an example... look at how much Vho harasses me and how far i had to go so he would leave me alone. No sysop has helped me and i asked him multiple times to leave me alone. Even if i get banned for being angry it will be worth it to get rid of that troll. I will stand by you no matter what. Dont let them get to you this is only the internet.... Prove Vho's point wrong by using me as an example.... use the things he did in the forum.... and ow he constantly flames users without saying it directly. God Of War 17:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Vho's block
Ok just to clarify, I'm not out to create an argument with you or anything. I just thought that Vhosythe might have been unfairly blocked (per the discussion in the Yew Grove, you didn't mention anything about IRC discussion). Well, could you please give me the reasons for blocking Vho for one month as I was not there when the discussion took place in IRC. Thanks. 14:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if you've been busy lately or inactive but could you take some time out to show me the discussion or the reasons behind Vho's block? It would help a lot, thanks. 14:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see. I won't unblock him anymore than. 15:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

dont leave plz!!!
plz stinko just take a break but not leave just ignore them dont get upset!!!! remeber good times like ur cooking party plz...... -- 02:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes! Don't leave! Don't give in to trolls! We need you! 02:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Do whatever you feel like doing Stinkowing. It's your choice. If this is causing you stress, it would be best for your health and your life to leave I believe. 02:44, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry how everything went down, Stinko. I truly, truly am. I hope to see you back, one day. Just remember, no matter what it looks like, you've got friends on this Wiki, in-game, and in real life that are there for you.

If you ever want to talk in-game, I'll have an ear open. --  Pikaandpi  Berserker Fury!‎ 15:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Block
You have been blocked from editing the wiki for one month for violation of the User Treatment Policy. For your recent Yew Grove outburst, I am sure you will be stripped of your powers. Please do not unblock yourself in that time. When your block is over you may return to editing the wiki and reapply for adminship if you so desire. Do not take this block personally, it is only what is fair. If you remove your block that is abuse of power and you may be blocked for longer. I am sorry it has come to this. Christine 14:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:So you jerks really want me gone?
I couldn't read that YG entry and not say something to you. Sounds like you've been having a hard time, and Wikistress will only make it worse, even if it isn't the root cause. But look, going from being an admin to being an ordinary user is not the end of the world - after all, adminship is no big deal, right? And it certainly isn't worth getting blocked over - unfortunately, I'm too late on that one. One person's opinion is not enough to get you desysopped (the scrutiny required for consensus would eliminate weak reasoning, personal attacks and subjective opinion), but flipping out and calling everyone assholes is. I know I'm probably not making you feel any better, but if you choose to come back next month, I will be very happy to welcome you. Don't let this be the end. 16:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC):


 * Sorry to see you go, Stinko. And like everyone else has said, I will gladly greet you after your block expires. 16:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

A message from a friend.
Don't leave. You've done too much good to this wiki to leave now. While I won't deny that you deserved the block, you also need to realize that Diber is a complete idiot for bringing this up in the first place. The point was moot, and he had absolutely no solid reason to bring it up again. You are a great editor, a great admin, and above all a great person. You've done so much good for the wiki and the editors of the wiki, despite your Autism. I respect you deeply for that, as it gives a person who has Aspergers Syndrome much needed hope. I ask you, not as a fellow RuneScape player, not as a fellow editor, not as a friend, but as someone who cares, please don't leave. Kevin-020 17:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, shit.
Please don't leave. But if you do, still talk to me on RS? :) 19:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

This whole fiasco...
Hey Stinko.

I'm not sure if you still check the wiki, but I'm sorry about what happened on the YG (though I wasn't involved). I'm sorry about the behaviour of Vho and Diberville, and I did my best to stay neautral about the issue. Please don't leave. You've made some pretty good edits. Though you have done some things that are against policy and given people some unfair bans, nobody's perfect. I read your comment about how you cried in front of your friend, and I know what that's like (I nearly cried that I might get banned because I'm under 13, because it violates wiki terms of use). I recommend:


 * You take a wikibreak and calm down.


 * Wait a month or so, then come back and return to editing. Try to forget everything that's happened.

Hope this helps. :) Telos 21:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

A rant that needs to be heard
Ahahahahah, you people thought you got rid of me for good? Quite the opposite, Vho and the other trolls-who-ultimately-made-me-blow-up...you've made me come back with a hatred only I could show! Granted, I'll have to wait for my block to expire to be able to post on YOUR talk pages, but that's OK...that gives me time to write the perfect essay about how this whole desysopping thing was a pathetic farce...an attempt to make the wiki a different place than it should be (which half-succeeded, since you trolls divided our community and misused policy to your advantage)! I have some very specific things to say to very specific users, and I'm going all out. You made me blow up, so that's YOUR fault, and I won't show ANY verbal mercy-in fact, I'll suggest what needs to happen to you on the wiki!


 * Diberville-I want you banned for a few months AND your crat powers on the French portion of the wiki taken away. You should not have created this problem in the first place; you should have left the damn thing alone. I was doing fine until you thought to yourself "hey, Stinkowing's OLD desysopping discussion never 'reached consensus'! I think I'll cause him more trouble on-site by trying to ursurp him!" Banning you and stripping you of your powers, even if they have no influence on the English wiki, will greatly help the community, as you won't have any authority to back up your large-worded, biased, untrue, scandalous claims. The "fact" that I was ignoring policies made me laugh, in particular...you honestly don't pay much attention to me, that's for sure (in fact, I haven't seen you that much on the wiki at all until you started your tirade against me!).


 * Degenret-Oh, gosh, where should I start? For one, you lied about ME lying about petty things. You have let the position of sysopship get to your head, making you think that you have authority. YOU DON'T. It would be a horrible mistake to let you become a b'crat, and if you were ever nominated, I would instantly give you a strong oppose without a second thought. I cannot believe that I have trusted you for this long in AND out of RuneScape and the wiki, you horrid little liar. You have made biased claims that "if Stinkowing's powers are not removed from his 'smug self', the wiki LOSES". Now HOW THE FUCK do we lose if I don't get my powers revoked (which I can obviously see worked in your favor). The thing is this: YOU AND THE OTHER JERKS THAT MADE ME BLOW UP MADE THE WIKI LOSE. I didn't; YOU AND YOUR ALLIES DID. My solution to your horrible actions? Strip you of your sysopship and bar you from getting another nomination temporarily (up to a few years, and a ban won't be nessesary). You have decieved me, and I WILL NOT tolerate that.


 * Wejer-Short and to the point: Allying with Vho, a known troll, and instigating things towards me in the Clan Chat, which is pretty much taunting me now. You are lucky I didn't kick your ass from the Chat every time I saw you say something hateful...I could have easily told C Teng to add you to the CC's ignore list, and that would have been that. A ban of about a month or two is good enough for you...though I believe you're just as bad as the next guy, since you allied with him.

And finally...OH JOY.


 * Vhosythe-I cannot BELIEVE you have not been infi-banned yet! You and your trashtalking ways got me blocked and desysopped...the list is too long to fully show every one of your crimes, but I'll give some examples to those of you who are too unaware to understand:


 * Flaming users for no reason. I'm sickened that you considered Tienjt's comment on your talkpage as spam.
 * Twisting the wiki's policies into "THIS PLACE IS AUTOCRATIC AND A DICTATORSHIP" In fact, you insulted Skill's policy of RS:NOT as well as Skill himself by claiming every other wikian to be a "blasphemer". If anything, YOU are the blasphemer...you have tried to mangle everything WE say into insults and lies when YOU are the one insulting and lying to us!
 * Trying to control what goes on and what DOESN'T go on his talk page. NO ONE controls their talk page, and even I, with my message about how I'd remove any negative comments towards me, have been meaning to revise that message. BUT NOW I CAN'T, BECAUSE I'M BLOCKED...BECAUSE OF YOU!
 * Threats to me on RS that I would regret even tempblocking him, including personal threats.
 * Insulting my mental state by calling my Asperger's Syndrome (a type of autism for those of you who have never heard that term) a "disease". THAT ALONE should have earned you a block, but I'm disgusted that it didn't.
 * Overall treating the wiki like shit...like it's his own personal punching bag.
 * You flat-out fail, you sicken me, and I want you gone. An infinite ban is the only choice, I'd think...though it amazes me that hasn't already happened...

I'm still waiting for a reason as to why a infiban for Vho is "power abuse" (abuse, my ass! The way I've been TREATED is abuse...).

No apologies will be accepted here...you have all proven your "maturity" (or obvious lack thereof) to me, and through constant abuse, I am now 100% unable to trust any of the listed people here. GF, jerks. 18:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

FYI
Forum:User_block_policy --216.136.67.81 04:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Something you ALL need to see
''Support immediate and indefinite block. I would rather be part of a community that actually enforces its user treatment policy than one where you can make comments like this and get a slap on the wrist. To not ban someone who does these things over and over again sends a message to newer editors that you can do whatever you want (short of vandalising pages) on this wiki without getting banned. Btz has already had "one final chance" and has since blown it. I find it upsetting that many editors here are more than willing to let trolls run wild and that a long term block is always met with controversy. Dtm142 02:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)''

The irony that came from my fight for my unfairly-removed admin rights is shown to be wrong here. In other words, Dtm's words that I have posted here should have applied to the situation with Vho and I, earning him a permanent block with no opposition. I also am disgusted that people actually took me seriously on that rant that ended this all...espeically me saying "just remove my powers already..." THAT WAS AN ACT OF FRUSTRATION, NOT AN INVITATION TO DESYSOP ME. Obviously, people couldn't tell the difference, then, and so Azaz, (who I still trust, believe it or not) removed them without a second thought.

Thus, this post is two things...ONE: Remove my block and give me at least rollback as compensation to this injustice. TWO: Permanently block Vhosythe and explain to me as to why it was power abuse for ME to do that. Thus...

And I'm off to go eat dinner. 21:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * As we have been saying to Btz for days now, it doesn't matter if you "meant it" or not; you still said it and are responsible for your actions, Stinko. The rights were not removed because you requested them to be; the true reason was because that last rant was absolutely uncalled for and inexcusable. Christine 22:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am fully aware that it was inexcusable. And perhaps I AM responsible for my actions...who isn't? But comparing me to Btz is not right, either...for one, who HAD proven that he had earned sysop rights back during his RfA? Not him; ME. During that RfA, I proved that I have much more capability to be civil than Btz is today. I believe that to totally deny my request to be unblocked now, you'll have show multiple examples of that...at least ten or so (or more, Btz has 73 or so examples against him that show his incivility). Granted, I was very rude during my rant and the first attempt to ursurp my rights...but those incidents are few and far between. 22:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Since the complaints against you did not really involve your use of the rollback tool, I have granted this request.-- 22:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Please Stinko, calm down. The difference between Vho and Btz is that, though Vho is often quite irritating to many, he doesn't outright tell people to "F*** off", or continuously swear at other users. I don't want to anger you; I just wanted to point out the difference. : ) 09:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a few things to point out: 03:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * THAT WAS AN ACT OF FRUSTRATION, NOT AN INVITATION TO DESYSOP ME. - Umm, why mention only now? Why not on the 13th or 14th or 15th?
 * But comparing me to Btz is not right, either...for one, who HAD proven that he had earned sysop rights back during his RfA? Not him; ME. - RS:AEAE?
 * I will not deny that it would have been better to mention that first bit sooner; however I wholly disagree with the reference to AEAE. What I meant by that comment up there was that I PROVED that I could handle myself, whether I was a sysop or not. Btz, however, has proven that he CANNOT handle himself, blowing up at the slightest stimulation (in comparison, these days I try my hardest to stay calm, even if I DO snap like I did). Also, I am still waiting for someone to review my block and see my good intentions, as well as for someone to finally tell me why blocking Vho for infinite was "power-abuse", since most everyone here wants him gone for trolling. 23:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it would have better to mention that sooner. But I would still like to know why did you mention only now. Also, you give the impression that you are not calm with all the upper-case letters. So if you are not, please calm down. Also, Vho may be annoying/irritating to some users but like Telos said, he doesn't tell users to "**** off". Also, even if he is a troll, an infinite ban is not justified. At most, a month. Blocking him for infinite was power abuse, although not entirely groundless. 08:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The original block was not power abuse itself. The user block policy states that a user may be permanently blocked if they have made more than five personal attacks.  However, it was very unwise to make a controversial block on a user with whom you've had a history with, especially while a discussion was underway about the fate of your own sysop tools.  It was definitely power abuse to wheel war afterward.  You would have done much better to contact a neutral administrator for assistance.  Unfortunately, many editors (sysops included) are more than willing to let disruptive trolls run wild on the wiki as long as they don't vandalize pages.  Afterall, it is far more dangerous to make an offensive edit to a wiki page than it is to deliberately stir up conflict in the community and game the system.  If you wish to extend the block to permanent, you will need to start a discussion on the Yew Grove as this requires community consensus.


 * You are not the first user who has had a successful RFA only to have adminship removed. Three other editors before you have permanently lost their sysop powers due to community consensus.  Adminship is not an entitlement to a higher status in the community or to become immune to blocks and bans.  Your RFA did not prove anything.  An infinitude of positive community experiences could not prove that you're capable of adminship.  However, a single mishap could prove that you should not have adminship.  RFA is not about finding reasons to sysop someone, it is about finding and scrutinizing reasons not to sysop them.  If we cannot find any good reason not to sysop you on an RFA, you will be given adminship.  This is not because you have earned it, but rather it is an application of good faith assumption and trust.  If something goes wrong after we trust you, you can easily lose your sysop powers more quickly than you were granted them.  As of now, the previous RFA is not in effect due to your recent user treatment policy violations.  The community has found reason to lose trust.


 * Personal attacks on editors will not be tolerated from anyone, whether they be an admin or an anonymous IP address. Those who supported the removal of your admin powers did not do so lightly, and they are only trying to do the right thing for the wiki.  I understand that this discussion has been hard on both you and the community, but it is necessary to be able to handle such scrutiny in a civil manner if you are an administrator.  Please understand that we are not out to get you, we only want what is best for the community.  The block will not be removed, as you have severely violated the user treatment policy and the block has been made in accordance with the user block policy.  Please assume good faith and act more respectfully in the future. Dtm142 22:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

The Regent Of Reek
I was just looking on your userpage, and the Heading said The Regend Of Reek. Lol and then I thought you should put there a heading named  The Revenge Of Leek ! hah. 17:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

...
Alright, what are you people hiding from me? Not a single person has bothered to explain to me why an infinite block to this troll was power abuse. Even though it may not be the case, this REEKS of conspiracy...one that was made to successfully make me throw a tantrum and get me blocked and desysopped. If indeed there is no reason to give, then I demand that my block is removed, that Diber/Dengen have THEIR powers revoked (and have them blocked for gaming the system), and that I have my sysopship reinstated, because SOMEONE should have explained that to me by now. As sudden and as unrealistic as that request seems, the fact that no one has explained the above problem with a permaban makes me suspicious. Why? Because if no one explains why this troll didn't get an infinite block (which I KNOW he deserved!) for his actions, it makes it seem rather unrealistic that it was power abuse. In other words, you people MADE THAT UP to keep the discussion going about my desysopping. Now, I still don't trust Dengen/Diber/Wejer/Vho at all, but there's people I do still trust (for example: Sir Revan, Andorin, Christine, Dtm, Chia, Aburnett, C Teng, Azaz, and more). But even THEY haven't tried to explain the problem to me! If indeed, this was something that was premeditated (which I actually doubt), that overall makes the block and desysopping seem rather pointless. If not, then you haters of me can just discredit me as you've always done and make me look like a fool, as usual.

Also, no one has reviewed my block at all, instead taking the time to review EARTHERE'S block, which we KNOW wasn't a possibility, considering what he did. That's not fair to me at all! You review a known troll's block, which you KNOW will fail to get him unblocked, and yet, you ignore ME, a trusted user of the community who has truly good intentions!

This just doesn't seem right to me. Something is wrong here. And I will find out what it is. 17:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Stinko, I cannot explain how what you did was power abuse. It is not that I disagree with the statement (I refuse to take sides on that issue, as I would be biased), and so I shall leave that to someone who officially stated it was power abuse. However, as you mentioned, your demands are unrealistic and unbased. Now, I understand that you think the wiki is against you. However, this and your outburst are separate matters. You, as you said, "exploded" and the right actions needed to be taken. I do not want to accuse you of attacking those who were against you, but it seems that the only people you want action taken against are those who did. So to respond to each of your demands: Your block was deserved, unfortunately it will not be removed. It is not permanent, so be thankful for that. Diberville is not an admin here, and the English RuneScape wiki =/= French RuneScape wiki, therefore he will not be losing powers. As far as I can remember, Degenret did not ever directly attack you, did not abuse powers, did not do anything that would mean he should lose sysop. You accused him of gaming the system, however I cannot help but think that the screenshot from the clan chat was a method you used in gaming the system. I gathered that you intentionally said something you knew he would react in an incriminating way to, then used that against him. Please tell me how he was the one gaming the system. Further, getting admin tools back as a consolation for being "ignored" by those "conspiring" against you is not in any way fair, or even sane. You have been told that to get these tools back you will need to earn them again. Christine 02:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, really now...
Must I keep making a new section (that I KNOW no one will care to reply to) every time my voice must be heard? Anyway, [http://runescape.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Stinko_is_at_it_again_unfortunately&t=20090325224911 yes, I kicked Tebuddy. So what?] He is NOT my superior (if he thinks he is, he violates AEAE) and I do NOT want him practically telling me to shut up about my block. Does he not realize that what he said hurts me EVEN MORE? Does he not CARE that what he says enrages me so? I would also like to point out that he called me "manipulative and whiny"...two things that I am NOT. Don't lie about me just because you have a vendetta against me, Tebuddy...it won't work. Yes, maybe it wasn't the best choice to KICK you. But you have no place telling me what to say and what NOT to say!

Fuming at the general incompetence of the Wiki and its editors, 00:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

http://pastebin.com/m428627e3


 * Please stay calm. Also, have you ever thought that you may be being a bit oversensitive? If you know very well that what he says is not true, why are you so hurt? From the screenshots of the chat he provided, he did not tell you to shut up. He also explained that what he was simply preventing a potential flame war. 08:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry I did not see this earlier, I dont have your userpage or talk page on watch and hadnt seen a link to it until someone posted in the yg thread. I don't know if you made this section before or after you apologized, but I feel I needed to reply. The reason I said what I did in the clan chat was purely to prevent any ill feelings from cropping up and starting a full fledged anger fest in the channel. I don't like drama, I distance myself as much as I can when it comes to peoples feelings on the internet. But in this case I also thought it would be good to step in and say something. Not only is discussing a very heated issue like blocks and bans in the clan chat a bad idea because of the lack of organization and control over a mature conversation, but you also chose to do it at one of the busiest times of the day when the chat was almost full of people playing Runescape. Many of whom are not even editors on the wiki. On top of that it seemed like you were just throwing out lines that you thought would get you a reponse and make people feel sorry for you. My comment on being manipulative and whiny speaks for itself. Saying something like "You know whats stupid? People reviewing earth's block instead of mine" is whiny and lacks any sort os structure in itself. The only result of a comment like that is anger and drama. And as much as you don't want to admit it, you are very manipulative when it comes to this wiki and your position of leadership in it. Look no further than your conversation with uberfuzzy posted just above me. Not only is it completely pointless to bring someone who is not familiar with the issue or even related to it, but it also seems very much like you are trying to direct the conversations and get uberfuzzy to at least justify what you did to make yourself feel better. That is the manipulation I speak of. It is also interesting to me how you bring up policy in the dicussion with uberfuzzy citing all editors are equal in an instance where I tell you to not start drama, when in fact if policy was a direct rule on the cc you would not be allowed in or have clan chat admin status at all. If you wanted people to pay more attention to your block, you should have done the correct thing and contacted someone and asked them to bring it to the attention of the yew grove or another administrator. Not to mention, the only reason earths block was being discussed was because he left a note on his page requesting an unblock, and I happened to see the note by pure chance and decided to let everyone know. If you would check the yew grove now you would see consensus is still the same and he will remain blocked for his actions. I just wanted to stop by and let you know what I think, I wont be replying to this thread anymore because nothing more can be said that hasn't already in the previous discussions about your status or your power. 15:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Burning bones...
For all those who think it's a graphical glitch...you're wrong. Those are partially marinated jogre bones from the Tai Bwo Wannai Trio quest. I can't believe no one bothered to look up quests for that sort of thing... 12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked at a few, but I haven't done that one, thanks. 12:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Lol
You can all forget about this happening to me. I have been reassured that I will keep my kicking powers, and I'm staying with the fact that Tebuddy is an insensitive jerk. Oh, and even in the impossible event that I DO lose my powers...you're not touching my IRC op-ship. Jerks. 13:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm curious, what makes you so confident? Should C Teng refuse to remove them, the CC will simply be moved, and he will more than likely be blocked or have his sysop removed. 14:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, you won't be touching C Teng...HE'S not the one who told me that. If you touch him, you effectivly screw over the whole wiki population that uses the CC. Nice try at intimidating two people at once, but it FAILED. 14:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, I think Karlis is just commenting on the fact that you seem to be very sure that you will keep your kicking powers. Not trying to intimidate anyone. 14:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See, this is where people's utter idiocy comes into play...it's still telling me "screw you, I hate you, and I want you to be powerless". I have gained a massive sense of paranoia ever since the original desysopping conversation was poorly put into effect, and I firmly believe that I've been through enough turmoil; if you think I haven't, you're either a sick bastard or just unaware of how I feel now. And if you really want me to tell you who told me that I'd be keeping my powers...it's Doucher. I may be stubborn and unwilling, but I'm still honest.
 * Also, why haven't Wejer and now Tebuddy been blocked for intimidating and making fun of me? Wejer is nothing, but a habitual liar, he told everyone that I said that Tebuddy was "manipulative and whiny". Block him, please; the wiki would do better without trolls like him. And you ALL can tell that I'm pissed now.

Karlis, I thought I could TRUST you... 14:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit conflict.. Actually, it looks more like the community is leaning toward removing your powers. And please watch your tone, calling the entire community jerks is probably not the best way to prove your case. Furthermore, we thought we could trust you too Stinko, but it's getting harder and harder to stand by you. 14:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Can I archive some of this? It's extremely laggy for me to communicate with you. 14:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You think I'll take THAT graciously? No, no, no! You are SORELY mistaken...I HATE people who hate ME. I have removed people from my friends list ingame and am going to add them to ignore, since they support me being powerless and gone from the CC. If the community is so spiteful as to gang up on me and attempt to utterly destroy a trusted user's sanity and faith, why bother being Mr. Nice Guy? I'm ANGRY now! And I can already see you saying "Oh, fuck you, Stinko, you're an insane little bastard who is turning into a troll". I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU ALL!


 * And yet...I see more of my friends like Tien and you ganging up on me. You really want me gone, don't you? And I REALLY don't care if I "blew all of that out of proportion". I'm upset. And I can very well damn show my emotions, can't I?


 * And no, don't archive it. I don't trust you enough now...I am sad to see it come to this, but I can't trust ANYone here! They're just so SPITEFUL and HATEFUL to me! 14:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Every feeling toward you, well from me at least, and I would presume others, was brought upon you by yourself. Actions speak louder than words Stinko. I don't want you gone, but if you're going to continue to let your emotions control you, then perhaps it's best that you have no position of power. 14:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, I hate seeing you continually going down. You can still stop it, you just have to lay low for a while. People still trust you Stinko, but the actions speak for themselves. Please, try to just take things in moderation and don't give anyone else a reason to try to ban/strip you of powers. You're still part of the community, don't turn into something you'll regret later. Yu have years of positive contributions, don't throw it all down the drain. Plese Stinko, I ask you that you just fly below the radar for a bit and let things cool down. 14:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I have been reassured that I will keep my kicking powers - First, C Teng, the only one in control of the wikia CC, did not say this, so you have no reason to assume this is true. Also, C Teng will do as the community says, he has the responsibility if he wants to keep adminship. ''Oh, and even in the impossible event that I DO lose my powers...you're not touching my IRC op-ship. Jerks.'' - Says who? Christine 16:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't hate you, Stinko, and I definitely don't want you gone. If I were you, I would take Karlis's advice and sit out for a while and let things cool down. I still trust you, but if you continue your behavior, I'm afraid that my trust in you will go down. 16:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Easter
Hi, This is a bit early but because I am going away soon: 08:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

In spite of all this...

The Traditional Holiday Greeting from Bonzi
11:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Well Said
Your Vandalism Page Is Amazing! =-D It Speaks The Truth...--  Celtic-Creations  *  Talk to me   17:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Active users/Welcome back.
Im glad to see your block expired and that you are back on the wiki =).

Also it will be fine to sign the active users list here is the link: []


 * Yes, welcome back! (Yes, I know I'm a bit under a week late. I wasn't available on the day you got unblocked, and, well, this has been a pretty busy week for me. Sorry.)


 * By any chance, are you planning to coming to the Fest tomorrow? -- [[Image:Dragon two-handed sword.png|Beware the underrated.]] Pikaandpi  Berserker Fury![[Image:Bandoschestplate.gif|Hit hard or go home.]]‎ 15:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I could, but I haven't enjoyed them as a whole, so maybe not. But I'll see what I can do. 15:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. Well, I do hope that you come, but you're entitled to your own decision, so I won't pressure you either way. And once again, welcome back! -- [[Image:Dragon two-handed sword.png|Beware the underrated.]] Pikaandpi  Berserker Fury![[Image:Bandoschestplate.gif|Hit hard or go home.]]‎ 15:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey!
Hey there, welcome back! Kevin-020 18:25, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Timer.
Hi stinko, just noticed that the timer on your page is wrong as you may check how gmt has 17 hours of difference to central? -- 02:32, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Vincennes-roll-back
But what did i delete that caused you to roll-back. I was jsut reading your user page and I am autistic also.

RE:User:Blasthart
I've left a message on his talk page. 12:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Time to archive!
Hi stinko,Your talk page has like 42 subsections so it may good to archive =D -- 13:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

No hard feelings
While I was indeed irked a couple of times as I mentioned, I fully understand how emotions can play a great part in what one says. I harbor no ill feelings towards you what so ever. Further, I felt bad about the whole damn mess and how it was affecting you. I hope your doing ok these days. --Degenret01 04:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Heart Gold/Soul Silver
GEN 2 REMAKES, B*TCHES! While I'm here, a Japanese gaming magazine had some scans featuring game screenshots. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/2/2e/HGSS-Corocoro.jpg Compare the new female character to the old one. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/14/Game_character_kris.png Not much of a contest, is it? WWTDD? 21:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)