User talk:Leon Art/Archive 3

Signature
Your signature failed. http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Karil%27s_crossbow?curid=30374&diff=6820978&oldid=3960080 13:28, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Put exactly this in your Preferences -> Signature -> Custom signature:


 * Signatures/Leon Art


 * Thx, 14:38, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Check the "I want to use wiki-text in my signature" box right under it. 15:23, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Leon, did you add the code to your preferences? Your signature is still crapped up! 15:56, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, print screen it and Copy paste the code under (the signature code). 17:01, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah! Are you using visual editor or source mode? 17:09, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Put this in signature, check the box right under:
 * Signatures/Leon Art
 * 17:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, don't upload personal pictures to the wiki, upload them at http://imgur.com please! 17:59, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Remove the  tags.  18:05, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Print screen it again, and upload at imgur please. 18:11, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Check the "I want to use wikitext in my signature" box. 18:33, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yay! It works! Your welcome! :) 18:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Signature broken
Just wanted to inform that your signature looks broken somehow... 20:14, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re:editing pop standard portal
Sure thing! I added Category:Player-owned ports and Category:Scenery images to both, because that's what they are. I also added Template:Trans to mark them as needing transparency. 20:13, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Icefiends Ghorrock Weakness
Hey, I was just at the icefiends at Ghorrock last night and their weakness is bolts, not crush. 15:45, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Template help
I'm not quite sure what just happened in chat, but talk pages aren't used all that much these days. If no one spots in in Recent Chnages who can help you, it goes unnoticed. I'd recommend RuneScape:User help - it suffers from the same lack of noticability, but a few of us check there every now and then to see if we can help out.
 * Was it not you asking about something with Infobox Bonuses Beta?

PoP Random Event rewards
The table contains less information than the list that you replaced. You deleted useful information that people have asked for in order to fit it into a table. A table is not a good format for explaining what the rewards do. Please change it back. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 19:57, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * What would be the point of having a table and a bulleted list? 20:04, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yo, I don't know what's going on but please stop reverting to your version. You all are on the brink of RS:3RR. Talk it out on your talk pages and stop edit warring. Once you all reach a decision, then change the page to whatever you all agree on. However, do not continue to revert because you're not getting a valid reason for their stances. Talk it out. Do not edit war. 16:54, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Except that you're changing it back too. Just stop. 17:22, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you don't mind me asking, why is it you go after Ansela (who was trying to prevent an all out edit war) and not talk about it with Shogo Yahagi (the one who was reverting your edits)? Also, calling Ansela childish for protecting the page will get you nowhere and will only exacerbate the conflict 17:45, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * She was merely trying to prevent an all out blown war that would result in you and Shogo being blocked for violating RS:3RR. I do not see that as childish, but rather taking action to ensure that the fighting does not continue. She did not use the protect tool to ensure what she wanted happened. Also, what was to stop you from asking Shogo on their talk page why they were undoing your edits? It is not an admin's responsibility to settle disputes in edit wars, but rather that of the disputers ie you and Shogo 18:15, January 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hold up. Don't try to blame this on me. I did try to discuss this and I was ignored. I posted on his talk page the very first time he reverted my changes to try to avoid exactly this situation.


 * On another PoP talk page, someone mentioned that they had been waiting to use their Adventurer rerolls because they thought they would cancel voyages in progress. I thought that information was already on the page, so I checked the page and was going to add it. I found that the list of rewards had been changed into a one-item list and a table which contained inaccurate information. I changed it back to a list, made the corrections, and added the missing information rather than adding a footnote to the table that would be longer than the table itself. When I saw shortly thereafter that it had been changed back, I posted to his talk page rather than make any further changes, as you can see above. I have reverted his changes exactly once, because he had reintroduced errors to the page, messed up the formatting of the other table on the page, and more importantly, had already been told by an admin to leave it the way it was. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 18:56, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * The only one I see being childish here is you, and your inability to see any reasoning beyond your own. She put it back to the previous version because she thought that version was better and she protected it to prevent an edit war. That is not being childish. What is being childish is refusing to try and understand why others don't agree with you and writing their actions off as childish, and claiming that you're the only one trying to make a discussion in a space that is intended to have a brief summary, not a discussion, while completely ignoring attempts to discuss the issue. Just take a look at the first part of this discussion to see what you ignored 21:30, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, Leon. Thanks for responding on my talk page. I've placed a list of the main points there. Sorry I didn't give you a more clear explanation in the summary, but the R3 policy said something about not trying to settle differences of opinion through the summary info, and I wasn't sure how much I could put there. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 21:48, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * (Resetting indent). I mocked up a possible compromise table. It can be found here. Still needs some work, my coding skills aren't best, but I'm trying to get someone on that. 22:43, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

To go back to what I was saying earlier - it doesn't matter if you think you're right or wrong. Do not break RS:3RR or you will be blocked. If you get into a predicament like this again, simply leave the person a message. Don't continue to revert, ever. 01:10, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Zaros' alignment
You are right about the part of Control and Manipulation, I understood that they said that manipulation, emptiness etc. all are a part of control, but oh well, thanks for correcting me, you made me less confused :). Zanovar (talk) 13:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

FYI
link text We have that coding for wikipedia links. Use it instead of a url. 17:03, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Try and talk to them. Pop into Special:Chat and see if they are in there, maybe. 17:18, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * One thing to remember is that admins are usually watching, especially during UTC afternoon time. They'll step in when they think it's necessary. You could always leave a message for one if you think they need to step in and haven't already. 20:56, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Warning
Funny, you say not everyone is American, yet you clearly assume I am. 18:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ability book & Alchemy spells
Please check and make sure you're not creating double redirects when you move pages. 07:19, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * When you want to move a page, go to Special:WhatLinksHere and it will list all pages that link to the article you're on, including redirects. 22:22, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you don't, I will smite you. ^-^ Alternatively, you could check Special:DoubleRedirects or Special:BrokenRedirects. Those are good pages for checking basic maintenance tasks. 22:40, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Balmungs
I'm pretty certain that the mythological Balmung not being an axe is evident in the phrase "magical sword", and the sword bit does not need any special emphasis. This isn't a Year 1 reading assignment where the important words are bolded to draw attention to them. And 3RR is only relevant once three edits are reached; we only have two each today. 13:21, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re: PoP
Speculation is speculation. Take it to the article's talk page, where there's already a section on max level. -- 13:59, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Your speculation is speculation, no matter how many "disclaimers" you want to put on it. Really, take it to the talk page for the article. -- 16:25, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yo. Until we can prove they cap at 10 or any certain number, it's best to leave the page as is, which gracefully neglects to mention any level caps for crew members. If you'd like to put a cap notification there, please show some sort of source or evidence of 10 being a cap. Thanks, 17:25, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Player-owned port/Ship updates
That is all. 13:32, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Outside images
When taking images from sources outside of the game, such as official videos and news posts, remember to tag them with the Fair use template. The only exception is if they are taken from the RuneScape Bestiary, where you should use the Bestiary template instead. 18:18, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, if you don't find a place for this by 14:00 UTC, it's getting deleted. 12:23, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Adding templates is, but it can go into the upload summary/description box if it's a brand new file, or edit the page if it's replacing an older file. And only admin+ can delete files/pages, so I'll get on that now.  12:57, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Dragonfire shield edits
''13:52 Dragonfire shield (magic)‎ (diff | hist). . ( +777 )‎ . . Leon Art (Talk | contribs) (Expanded) [rollback]''

YOU WIN! 13:59, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Spelling
Hello,. Your recent edit used American English. Per the style guide, British English should be used in articles, so please try to adhere to these guidelines in subsequent edits. Thanks. 11:24, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Double redirect
The page is located at Elder Artefacts, not at Elder Weapons. The latter is a redirect to the former. Your continually redirecting it to the latter is creating a double redirect. You can add the section link with # yourself, but leave it directing to artefact. 19:13, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

this
The next time a user is blatantly vandalizing, please give them a warning. 15:51, March 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * no 16:38, March 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry. That message was actually a joke where I was poking fun at my own mistake. Do you seriously not understand? 16:49, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Bandos' Gender
In the new lore for Tribute to Guthix (which you can see in the forum thread QFC 15-16-643-64570987), there is a description of a female, boar-like god of war, who orcs followed, which the Naragi called Tuska. She had one eye destroyed, and then Guthix took out the other with his god-weapon. In The Origins of Gielinor, we see Saradomin fighting a boar-like god with ruined eyes who was confirmed to be Bandos, a god of war, who orcs follow. --Whyareall (talk) 18:08, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * EDIT: QFC 15-16-330-64612578 confirms that they are different. --Whyareall (talk) 18:12, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I changed my mind. It was based on the assumption that Bandos was Tuska, which was proven wrong. --Whyareall (talk) 09:43, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re:
I'm attempting to talk about it here. 13:51, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Signature
Hi again Leon. Can you do the following, so you don't subst your signature? Change what ever code you have in your preferences for your signature to this code:

Template:Signatures/Leon Art

Thanks, 15:03, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually use an easier method, as I can't rely on nosubst being on every wiki.
 * Create [ Template:Signatures/Leon Art/1] with  and alter your signature in your preferences to be
 * The problem is that your preferences are set to put the content of the template your using as your sig onto the page when you sign. So instead of having User:Cåm/Signature put onto the page, you get what's in the page instead. It sux, no?
 * Ya. If u edit my talk page, check the end, you will see whole signature code. nosubst always worked on any wiki for me. 13:42, April 19, 2013 (UTC) <-- SEE!


 * This is what it used to say:, now I used Muud's suggestion.  08:57, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Farming
Are you going to use this template? It's just sitting there unused. 14:18, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

RE
Because it was a relatively big part of combat before the updates. You should either start an RfD for them, or find a new home to house the short paragraphs and redirect those pages. 19:54, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * RuneScape:Requests for deletion has instructions. 17:34, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sig
Dude, your sig is still subst-ing onto pages, do the stuff Muud suggested up ^there somewhere again. 19:58, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

USA Userbox
Don't change publicly used userboxes to use as your soapbox, please. 19:38, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

RS:3RR
Remember that? Doesn't look like it to me.

FYI, your reverts back to your version kept breaking my attempts to fix it. And your grammar still sucks. 14:10, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

RE:asasd
It has been stated in the edit summary several times what is wrong with it: it is too vague a reference. Also as you have violated RS:3RR I have protected the page to prevent further edit warring. Please use the talk pages to solve this dispute 16:04, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh I believe that the evil twin folk tale inspired the event, but that does not mean that any future references are a reference to the previous one, but rather to the original. Also, I checked, and nowhere did anybody use the reason of adminship for reverting your versions.  In fact they used the exact same reason that I did: that it's too vague a reference to be considered  16:11, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Admins are just as responsible as anybody else for maintaining policy. Also, from checking the page history, you were the only one actually breaking policy.  Also, Ansela did attempt to use talk pages (admittedly her attempt was rather poor at solving the issue).  As for the vagueness: it has nothing to do with how you are putting it.  The link is just too vague while there is a stronger and therefore more likely reference.  She attempted to compromise while you have made no attempt whatsoever at doing so, instead just attacking anybody who disagrees with you.  And please provide links for where adminship was used as a reason for reverting your edit, cause I cannot see any  16:26, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Armadyl
Where does it state that he's the god of supreme justice, as opposed to just law and justice? 16:40, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that we cannot use that source sorry 17:02, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

long-ass title
I'm very tired and not really in the mood for reverting all your edits regarding the alleged non-canonicity of god letters so I'm here instead asking for the source saying god letter are not canon
 * Headers have no character limit; isn't that nice?


 * But yeah, source please.
 * Little trick I picked up from Uncyclopedia, where posting massive headers like that in forum discussions is perfectly acceptable I'm also kind of lazy after a 12 hour shift.
 * On one edit: the removal of Guthix finding Gielinor 12000 years ago, if you think about it, it kind of fits. I'm not entirely sure where the length of the ages was stated (possibly the old game guide) but it sounds about right to me.

Re:Freneskae shmurf
It was stated in an interview with Ossy on "RuneZone", whatever that may be. The entire clan was talking about it, as well as threads on our clan forums. Anyway, I can't help you find the video - since I haven't found it myself yet. I think it was on a radio of sorts..? 17:59, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe a transcript is on its way. In the mean time, listen to the Mendel Song. 18:18, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dunno. I assume it will be posted on the RSOF and/or the Scrying Pool forums. 18:44, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okays, I will.  09:48, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Infobox Farming
Hey, no problem. But you gotta thank Moley for the code. :P 14:40, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Gods letter.
Seems peopel are thinking, "some" of the gods letter are part of the lore, which is not, I checked at Runescape website, It no longer is. Help me out at the Gods talk page, and Guthix talk page (I made topics) Kinglink15 (talk) 19:18, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not involved in this edit war... 20:10, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

You sure?
Wikipedia and IMDb both say the James Cameron film was released in '09, and the Elemental Workshop IV quest was released on 1 March 2011. 18:20, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ms... 18:29, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

RE:
Since when have messages that have been left on Ansela's talk page been aimed at you? 20:05, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re:(Template:)Experience boosting sets
Experience boosting items? Experience boosters? Then the skill pendants can be added as well. 08:17, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I wouldn't mind the Yaktwee Stick and Witchdoctor gear being added to a third category (we'd have SoF, minigames and miscellaneous), but then we'd also have to add pendants, clan rings, etc. and rename the template "Experience boosting items". 08:23, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I know, but as I said: don't use the category as the defining variable, use the 5%exp boost. Clan rings boost 45%(?), pendants boost 50% and 100%, Hati and Sköl boost 100%. All the items/completed sets in we're talking about boost 5%.... that's distinct, and that's what I'm referring to. 08:58, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Elder Artefacts
The thing is they're NEVER referred to as "The Elder X". Not once. The Staff of Armadyl is ALWAYS referred to as The Staff of Armadyl or just the "Staff". That's its official name. Same for the Stone of Jas. Same for the other items. We should use their official, canon names, not ones that "sound logical". 16:12, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's still officially called the Staff of Armadyl, even if that isn't its true name. A lot more people know what the Staff of Armadyl is compared to "The Elder Staff" (Which is it is NEVER once referred to as). We shouldn't be using fanon names tbh. -- 16:34, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Seren
In the god page some one put " It was also discovered that Guthix came to her homeworld before the first age, while he was looking for the Perfect World." should we leave it to that, or remove it due to no proof. (Unless there is proof)Kinglink15 (talk) 20:45, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Any reason why?
Why did you do this? Just wondering..
 * Uhm, the original images that were there before were the same size to one another. Why should the icons be smaller? o.O
 * I asked you before to propose this on the talk page of the template. Don't revert it because you think your version looks better.

Religion
I'm guessing you missed the some of the pms I sent you.

In relation to drawing parallels between irl religion and in game religion, it complicated and can cause offence. This only applies to modern religion though. No one can deny the similarities between the Desert Pantheon and the Ancient Eqyptian religion, and more importantly because it's not been used for millenia it's not going to cause offence.

Crown (Elder Artefact)
Help me out here if you can my friend, I am sending this to you because i seem to be geting in a depate with Hallowland, She, if you check my talk page, claims that Fiara was made during the gods war, but proof was shown she was made after it, the end of the third age, which was when Guthix was awake, and made his guardians at some point before sleeping. She claims that Fiara Post over teh hedge letter meant the stone, but as we know, she was given power by guthix to be a guardian way before the cave was assigned to her. Saradomin was known to have the stone for a long time, until he lost it to Zamorak somehow, she still seems to think she is right, and I could use help to end this debate. If you need to review some facts, please do so. Kinglink15 (talk) 20:55, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Tackle box
A common file is transcluded in several articles so that info only has to be maintained in one article. See WhatLinksHere/Tackle_box/Slots -- 16:35, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Teaser hint images
I found those last two recent image hints on their official ow.ly page here: http://ow.ly/user/runescape. They would then be used on their official facebook/twitter pages within a day or two after being uploaded there. 14:08, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Nah, sometimes the images shown are bits of art drawn up by someone else that they decided to mention on facebook or twitter. 18:12, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

User talk:31.13.15.117
∿∿∿∿∿∿∿∿∿ 14:37, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re:The reason I use NOTOC on my talk page
Tbh, I've never really played with navboxes much, I just played around with it, copying bits and pieces from other working bits of it. There's still a weird gap at the bottom (like 1-2 pixels) that's annoying me, but it seems to be a navbox issue in general. Stick it on my to do list ;)

I like having them in groups. I don't think there's any real guidelines on it, but it just looks neater having them separated/grouped where possible. I'm not convinced on the "Younger gods" title-header-thing, but due to a lack of better phrase it illustrates the difference.

Re:Ga'al
No. It's just fun. FUN FUN FUN. 13:45, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Challem
No idea. Is there a new episode? I was just wondering. 13:01, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * ...I know all that, I was just asking whether it's been released already... :P We can only use the episodes as a refernce using the episode # template. However, due to the spam filter, we have to add each episode manually - Ty does that. 13:20, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Jas Gender
Hey mate, Just asking, where did it say Jas is a women? Like, was it in the nwe runezone interview? or what?66.229.206.111 13:39, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Jas' singular gender
Jas 10:41, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't know whether Jas is male or female (Jas). Thus Jas should be referred to as "they". That is the singular neuter from when the gender is unknown/irrelevant/absent. 11:27, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

God symbols
Making the symbols in the infobox |75px stretches the cell weirdly. Bigger isn't always better. 06:32, May 20, 2013 (UTC)