User talk:Oil4/Archive 4

Re:Woof
Grace is a German Coulie. 03:34, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have a phoenix eggling dog?

So Sorry
Fuck, I lost the battle

You were right, I was very wrong

I will never give up

And now for the real apology:

I'm sorry I'm a twat

Please excuse me; I'm dumb

You have won the war 10:48, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Why'd you revert my change to desert strykewyrms? I got a yew seed from them after 564 kills?

DuskFalls (talk) 09:31, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

My reason for adding it, is because no anagogic orts were dropped with it, so i didnt think it was a rdt drop, my bad

DuskFalls (talk) 11:38, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

BlairBot
He already fixed that. 18:44, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Exchange pages
Honestly... I hadn't thought of that. I'll go check TyBot's source to see what it actually requires.
 * TyBot has a list of pages along with their respective item ids. We can manually update them for now (with the button thing on every Exchange: page, and I'll leave a message for Ty.

Re: Exiled Kalphite Guardian
It was an intentional add. I know a Torstol seed is also on the RDT, however the current drop table of the guardian also already lists a Snapdragon seed (which I've gotten a few times meanwhile; much more often than if it was just a RDT drop). And from experience, many monsters that drop herb seeds generally have all herb seeds they drop listed on their drop table. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 09:24, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Besides, according to this... err... I think the runescape wiki has issues atm. I wanted to say: "This page lists several different Rare Drop Tables, and was completed by a JMod, Mod Michelle. Our own RDT information is either incorrect or outdated, in any case. Strictly following this information, no monster should list herb or seed drops." To see the tables I'm talking about, edit the rs wiki page and immediate request "Preview". For some reason the page itself (as well as requesting previous versions of the page) will only display the very first version of the page. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 09:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, looks like the rs wiki is working properly again. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Charm logs
Check his contributions. He had tried vandalizing the charm log before, so I'm inclined to believe that the edit that went through was not legitimate. 14:23, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re:We are evil
Extremely. 09:45, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:User talk replies
Whilst it is not "wrong" as such, it is not the done thing. The vast majority of editors don't do it, and when asked not to almost all comply. Italay90 is likely no exception. Note that I never explicitly stated that doing so was "wrong". To assume that I said as much is a very loose interpretation. 13:00, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Calculator
Yea, sorry, I was under the impression you had finished fixing all the spell information, and thus went on by the runes stated on the page. Anyhow, I re-fixed the table issue. 109.130.25.22 12:13, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I kind of like figuring out stuff like that, when I've got some time on my hands ^^ . Besides, I couldn't leave something like that alone if I wanted to >.< . 109.130.25.22 12:19, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually have an account, created specifically to get 'round a very small amount of actual restrictions placed on anonymous accounts. Other than those few restrictions, the only 'feature'/tool I lack without an account is the possibility of marking an edit as 'minor'. In short, I have little actual need for an account; and unless required, also can't be bothered to log into it everywhere. 109.130.25.22 12:35, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Calculators
No, that was just how I initially set it up to save space. When we release them we will put the tables on a /Template page and the calculator on the main page. Rather confusing. 14:37, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup. do at the top and then put  where you normally put 1100.  14:45, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * You do realize what you did doesn't um.... fix what you wanted to be fixed? It's nothing different. 19:20, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hardly, I hope you realize no one is ever going to change it. 19:22, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Stud. 19:25, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Forum
It's not really a "solution". All I did was find a consensus in favor of an indefinite block. Any block can be appealed on the Yew Grove anyway, so it's not like my statements about him requesting an unblock via discussion introduced anything that wasn't already there. I just threw that in there for the people who don't like infinite blocks. 13:24, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

God Wars
Why did you have the Gielinorian God Wars moved to God Wars? The latter page should be about the phenomenon "god wars" in general and list the known god wars that have occurred (currently two). Naming the God Wars that razed Gielinor in the Third Age simply "God Wars" implies they were the only one, which they were not. It should be moved back. Also, imagine the Sixth Age bringing another God Wars. Then we'd have First Gielinorian God Wars and Second Gielinorian God Wars. 09:22, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Related to this matter, why did you redirect all "3rd age" variants to "God Wars" instead of the Third Age page? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 10:42, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * What people will be looking for is irrelevant to the article's name. "God Wars" served as a redirect to "Gielinorian God Wars", so people searching for that would still get to the right page. And the "disambig" page contained more than that. It should be moved back to avoid confusion, because it is impossible to speak of "THE God Wars" as of TWW. 10:44, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * And that's why "God Wars" would redirect to "Gielinorian God Wars", as it did. IRL, if people speak about "the war", they generally mean WWII. And that's still called Second World War, not just "World War" (which is what WWI was called before WWII broke out - similarly, we called the only war we knew of (the Third Age one) "God Wars", until we learnt of another one, which is when the name became more specific (i.e. "Gielinorian God Wars")), even though people may call it that. That's why what the war is commonly called (God Wars) should redirect to its proper name (Gielinorian God Wars). 10:54, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have to say... I agree with Fswe. 11:09, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Even so, it doesn't matter which is more important or which name is more commonly used. It's true that 99% of the people searching "God Wars" will be looking for the Gielinorian ones. And those people will be redirected to the correct page (in the previous situation, where GW redirected to GGW), the one they were looking for, without any extra clicks or waiting time; that's what redirects are for - to have commonly used names for certain articles redirect to those articles. And, in this case, "God Wars" is a very very very very common "nickname" (lack of better word) for the wars that raged on Gielinor in the Third Age, i.e. the Gielinorian God Wars. 11:48, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna move it back now, since you no longer appear to object. 16:14, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm intent on making it more specific than simply 'God Wars', but if you have suggestions (God Wars of Gielinor, I dunno), feel free to make them. 16:51, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re:τεμυdʒιν
No "J" in Greek ∴ ʤ. 02:22, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no "ζ" in my signature, perhaps you're confusing it with "ʒ"? I'm not sure if it's "ε" or "η", but I don't particularly care either way. 11:53, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * "ζ" ≠ ʤ". n.b. I mean in terms of Greek, not that modern crap. 10:31, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * "Ζ ζ ζῆτα zēta = σ + δ = sd as in wisdom." — Athenaze http://www.oup.com.au/titles/higher_ed/classics/classics/9780195149562 10:40, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * OUP>Wikipedia. FYI, real info about zeta in Attic Greek: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ζῆτα. Anyway, what does the pronunciation of the letter itself have to do with anything? 11:55, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Rune Guardian
Sorry for responidn so late... I'm not getting any e-mail messages anymore :(

Anyway, I moved it to its quest name because the other Rune Guardian also had the quest name and not "(first tower)" or "(npc)", in addition it's not just a pet but also an npc in the area there. The reason why I moved it at all was to make it... fair, they both 'deserve' the title "Rune Guardian" just as much + it's more clear (to me at least). I hope this makes you understand :3 11:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Found you
16:00, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Divination protect
I requested it because most of the IP edits to it are vandalism. The protection can be removed manually at any time, so it possibly being released before the time expires isn't really an issue. 20:21, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, a good ~95% of the edits made from the last protection to now this protection by IPs was either speculation or vandalism. If there is a sudden release of information, as stated above, it can be unprotected or added by an autoconfirmed user if possible. 20:25, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re:typo
I make typos late at night. Fuck me, right? 07:56, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Bree
Feel free to, find it here, and search for "The Saradominist champion at the Battle of Lumbridge is a single centaur - specifically Bree from the God Wars Dungeon, geared up with elite armour.". IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:27, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, btw, it's also here, just look for "Bree". IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:42, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Name change
If you do it through rename account, Wikia's bot will do all the userpage moves, etc as part of the name change. 15:17, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. This is your original account name, right? Cam had to make a new account because he'd previously renamed. 15:21, August 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikia's bot will move pages from your old userspace to your new userspace unless the new page already exists. You'll have to fix up your sig template if it's the in the Template namespace yourself, don't forget to change it in your preferences if you do.
 * You'll also be globally blocked during the rename. This is because Wikia's servers don't like it if you make more edits during the rename (Sannse did tell me a more technical description for it, but I forget). Don't forget, Wikia only allow a single rename so make sure you're happy with the new name.

Re:Glouck soldier
Thanks for taking the image! 20:50, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

TWW - best quest ever
I totally loved it too! If only it was voiced :P  22:07, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

WGS was a great quest too :) and probably better too :P Yeah, voice-acting may not be perfect, but I love the idea, just as the music. Glad you liked it! Hope this will give you hope for future voiced quest... and there's always the mute button :P 17:51, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Death
I do not see how we can firmly claim that this was the specific reason why they chose "Death" over "Dead", based solely on "this looks obvious". Things that look obvious may still be false. For all we know they chose "death" because that is the theme of the quest, and not specifically because of the NPC's name. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:01, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for helping me with my userpage. Heres a caek. 20:22, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

FYI
Some of the loyalty outfits were renamed. Saxon > Tribal, Cheongsam/Changsam > Wushanko Isles and Aztec > Feathered Serpent are the changed ones, I think. 10:34, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Names are outdated. Jagex's images suck. 11:14, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

rethis
How so? It looks fine... 19:20, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Edit report + name change
It wouldn't break anything, but I've gone ahead and done it for you. 17:12, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re: q
Thanks. I've also added you to the checkpage. Please bear in mind the regulations when using AWB. Enjoy!

Re:equipped
File:Aurora Armour equipped (male).png, File:Dwarven Warsuit equipped (female).png, File:TokHaar Brute equipped (female).png, File:Eastern Captain Outfit equipped (female).png... 18:05, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: equipped
Well, it's what people have used for the other skins. 18:06, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * If ya want to, sure. 18:10, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

L2pokemon nub
http://imgur.com/Oz9XmiW  20:53, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

3edgy5me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhNFrPtbKGc&list=PL-QUzsJZfZnJ_nS_-p8wItpyao6uJnKr6

19:38, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE:wat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WXQL_pJc2I&list=PL-QUzsJZfZnJ_nS_-p8wItpyao6uJnKr6

00:37, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome article
It was awesome and needed to be awesomed

Bandos before tier system
You're incorrect about that it's not disputed that I know of, if you do please tell me ;) Also the presentation on RuneFest didn't counter it, and they were working on the tier system anyway back then (the source you removed). On RuneFest Mod Ollie only said it's only "Saradomin now, at the moment". So... yeah, I don't really see why you removed it :P  14:18, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

*Double wiseacre sigh*
1. IF that is so, source it please or else I will have to dismiss it as personal believe.

2a. Correction: you are certainly forgetting Seren and Zaros. So aready that is not so true, also makes him less awesome.

2b. How does it make sense? He's the God of War, he always fights, he loves to kill mortals and gods alike. How is it difficult to assume he killed dozens of lesser gods (tier 7 to tier 5 even) and sucked up their energy? He's also a mercenary, he could demand to be payed in stuff like divination energy, elder artefact exposure, etc.

It would also be nice if you would actually come up with a source before you speculate and made an edit based on your feelings. It would also be nice if you would refrain from uttering similar patronizing statements, and instead just have a proper conversation. That's a lot more productive. 19:30, December 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I am not aware that the system changed (I would really like an 'outside' confirmation, if you know what I mean). I am aware that Mod Osborne took an amazingly long time to release it... but they already had an idea on how and where to place the different gods. Some may have been moved around a little. But I really do not see a reason to think that some parts are no longer true, except if they are expressed to have changed (like they did explicitly in the case of Sara & Zammy).
 * I'm sure you're aware that emotion is sometimes difficult to get across properly with digital communication (emoticons help :3 See! :P) Also things like "sigh", "how on earth", "mindlessly", etc. do not contribute to a positive perception. Anyway, don't worry, no hard feelings.
 * I do think they are relevant... they are gods after all, I don't see why you would not include them. Besides, I don't think it's a convincing argument to say that Bandos was an exception - as I showed there are many reasons to think why he could be more powerful (I was more surprised that Armadyl and Seren were that high on the tiers. You know: less combat, less exposure to possible divine enregy, lower tier. And they do seem rather peaceful, I expected them to be more on the Elidniss tier... also why I assumed there are so many males as gods and few females: males are more violent, higher change to ascent). Anyway... there are many possible reasons people can make up :P That's why I value sources so much (I've spend some hours looking for a few sources, and had to give it up because I couldn't find it. Too bad but that's reality :, especially in these waters :P I'm sure you understand :P 20:54, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * FYI, Mod John A referenced Bandos previously being tier 3 on twitter after RuneFest occured, so Leon is actually right on this one. 10:58, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * lol, "Leon is actually right" what do you mean, patronizing??? That's not the things Oil is disputing, you should read the conversation ;) 11:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I should explain it in more detail, as to why I think I'm correct and you aren't. The bullet points indicate new info: And that's it. Since we don't know anything about things being retconned, why should we assume they are? I would love Osborne to answer the question, but I'm afraid he won't. He's quite busy and he doesn't answer all of those questions either. But I wish you good luck ;) 11:44, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * we know there are gods in rs (at the beginning)
 * we know some gods are more powerful than others
 * there is talk of tiers
 * some gods on tiers are made known (lower-desert gods, avaters, Zaros, Guthix, Saradomin, Zamorak and Bandos pre- & post-TCC) not at the same time.. bust still
 * RuneFest: the tier system is revealed (although not all gods are, Freminnik, Karamjan Gods for example aren't). Saradomin and Zamorak are given diffent tiers after BOL, but nothing is said about Bandos.

Re:Hi
Yes, are you the event manager, also are applications open (if you are) :D Funds (talk) 16:59, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

http://pastebin.com/v8N7wv0J

http://i.imgur.com/wKhiGAK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bCEZXPj.jpg

17:34, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

L2montage bro
Your cracker montage needs to be better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJHrmliVQw&list=PL-QUzsJZfZnJ_nS_-p8wItpyao6uJnKr6 -- 20:41, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

re: what
I do. My username on there is tehTyA. 23:13, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Reticule
You see that as a joke, huh? It's not. Cook's involvement with the mmgs and his advertisement of them over at reddit has made his name synonymous with the guides. I would never make a joke redirect in the namespace, like, say, redirecting Cook Me Plox to Dung (disambiguation). 14:16, January 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * It wasn't red until Azliq pooped on the party. 17:28, January 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Removing a parameter... Amongst other things... 20:56, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

CC Admin
I see you are admin now. Gj. You is still ban -- 00:31, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

RSW Clan Avatars
Hi Oli4burger,

Due to a shortage of avatars caused by avatar wardens constantly logging out with summoned avatars, Gareth and I would like to remind all wardens to dismiss avatars when logging out. To get the message across, we are removing the Avatar Warden jobs from all current wardens until they acknowledge the receipt of this message. If you wish to be a warden again, simply speak to Gareth or me, and we will change your job back to Avatar Warden.

Best, 00:08, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

RSW Clan Administrator Maturity
Dear ,

Recently, the maturity level of administrators has been called into question by some clanmates. We would like to remind everyone that as an RSW admin, you are a representative of both the clan and the wiki. Therefore, please remember to keep the clan chat a place for everyone to enjoy. We are not trying to be the "fun police." Rather, we want to make sure that everyone in the clan is respected. If you didn't see the recent thread, please reacquaint yourself with the clan chat rules.

With this in mind, there are a few specific behaviors that are troublesome. Clan administrators are meant to be players that other clanmates can trust to go to with issues. Please endeavor to maintain this trust. We would like you to please note the following points.
 * The pattern of joking about power abuse should stop. There should be no perception of power abuse in the clan.
 * Several clan rules now are pattered under the "accepted until someone requests the conversation to end." There have been several cases of users jokingly invoking this rule. Constantly "crying wolf" about this will make it much harder for a clanmate who legitimately wants an offensive conversation to stop to utilize the rule if he/she has seen us joking about it earlier.
 * If you see someone "crying wolf," please discourage the user from doing so.
 * Please do not "cry wolf" yourself.
 * If possible, please leave PM on so that other users can contact you privately if needed. We understand that sometimes you may not wish to do so, but please try to be available whenever possible.
 * Please try to show a little restraint with your language. There's nothing to say that you cannot use profanity, as long as the filter is respected, but some users have used it excessively. Some have also been a little too confrontational.
 * Some things have been said in the clan chat that have been reportable or mutable. Please avoid these. Check over the Rules of RuneScape to make sure that you do not break them, as they take precedence over our rules. A muted administrator is an ineffective administrator.
 * If there is a heated argument or conflict going on (not to be confused with a debate), please try to resolve and mediate it with class rather than exacerbating the issue.

We intend this to be a simple reminder for you to maintain a pleasant decorum in the clan. Thanks for being a part of the clan!

Best, and 03:26, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

RS:ET/Next
Instead of commenting the content of those redirects, please change them to redirect to the base events team page. By commenting them out, you're just creating blank mainspace pages. Keep them functioning as redirects by changing them to point to another page. 14:32, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Dick measuring
If you want to measure a wiki's dick, it's not just page count. The calculation is:

$$L_p = \log_{4} C_a + \frac{1}{50}\log_{10} C_p + \frac{1}{25}\log_{3} C_f + \frac{6}{50}\log_{5} C_e$$

Where:
 * Ca is the number of content articles
 * Cp is the number of total pages
 * Cf is the number of files
 * Ce is the number of edits

Our wiki has a inch dick. 18:52, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm a man of science, and I believe the metric system is the best system in most cases. When it comes to the schlong though, I think inches are the best unit for accurate comparisons. 18:55, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then certainly we should be using the planck? 18:58, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm going to measure mine with a unit called the "infinitesimal". My dick is infinity units in length. 19:01, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't need to take this shit from you, I have an infinity dick! 19:03, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re:This
no problem -- 18:35, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

ET/S
I changed the procedure for suggestions from copy pasting to using a preloaded template in a new section. If you don't like that, then, well, screw you; undo it. 22:20, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: EW3 reward scroll
Done and re-uploaded. Sometimes Wikia's caching is a little slow, but I got the new pic to show with only 3 forced page loads.... -- 17:23, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

EW4 also done and re-uploaded. -- 01:30, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hi
februari -- 04:01, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * yeah, thought it looked more organized here -- 07:40, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

You are banned
In accordance to the Clan Chat Annual Votings, you have been nominated and successfully voted to be banned. You have 30 minutes to gather your belongings and vacate the premises. 02:50, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

http://i.imgur.com/WuUN4gn.png was an image someone took of the event. 02:57, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Helloil!

Can you give me some pointers on editing my user page to something cooler?

Warlock eyal (talk) 17:51, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, how about editing my profile, and making my signature look better than default?

Oh, and if I'm a noob, you're ban. ; )

Thanks

Warlock eyal (talk) 12:27, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

2014 RSW Family Photo
The 2014 RSW Family Photo is in! Feel free to check it here! See you all again next year, 21:47, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

looking hot as shit
http://i.imgur.com/ceG1kk3.png

-- 22:58, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

http://imgur.com/oZG4qQP

Xarkanos (talk) 21:16, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Frennyskay
Seeing as "the world she was at with ZimZam" and Freneskae are separate worlds in the World Gate, yes, it's confirmed. Plus, I'd think they'd have encountered Zaros if they were at Freneskae. -- 14:54, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * V and I are almost certainly Vampyrium and Infernus. Elf homeworld was made of crystal, not trees. 16:33, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

RE
I made that edit so that you would contact me. And it worked. And I love you. 22:37, March 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * http://i.imgur.com/72Mnao1.gif
 * 22:40, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alia Shawkat is hot. Especially in the show's original tenure, where she's 14 22:42, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to make the joke to obvious. Anyways, I need to actually log off. I'm going to eat a hot dog. Do you like hot dogs? If so, how do you like them? I like mine plain.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/NCI_Visuals_Food_Hot_Dog.jpg
 * 22:46, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * "The sausages were culturally imported from Germany and popularized in the United States". Get your fucking facts straight and don't dis what I'm about to shove in my mouth. 22:48, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE:This is a section headline
No problem. :3= Though I am apprehensive about tweeting about some events due to the lack of organization early-on. I wanted to put our Spring Wikifest in the Community Chronicle on the RS website but wasn't able to because I wasn't sure if the time/date was agreed upon and the pages are still not even finished. ): Mod Infinity said he would retweet some of our events tweets though. (: 00:12, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Title
Your proposed drops are bad and you should feel bad. 07:41, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're naïve if you think that people will actually use the resources. The vast majority will be sold on the GE. 21:41, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Maybe it's optimistic" ← biggest understatement I've heard in a while. 22:18, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Zanik's crossbow
Generally only things like office should turn simple apostrophes into those funky sideways ones. I'm well aware we have even more useless/odd redirects on the wikia anyhow; just felt like exclaiming it. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:26, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Can you raffle me Oil?

Thank you

re:re:re
because you are oil4 16:42, April 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * extra spam because spam 16:42, April 1, 2014 (UTC)