Talk:Draconic visage

Drop chances.
It is possible to get a clue scroll and a visage in same drop. I just got one about 45 minutes ago. Been working on the clue. Although it was crap.....

And I thought I read somewhere that you can get 2 visages in one drop? Since its a bonus drop it is possible, least thats what I've always heard.

13:42, October 19, 2009 (UTC) wtf

The best way to get one is not to try. You can kill 1m and not get one or kill 100 and get one its random just kill them for slayer or dragon bones dont think you will get one within 5k-10k kills unless your very lucky. You could get one first kill but the chance of geting one will all ways be 1/10000 even if you have killed 100k all ready.

Drop rate
The drop rate is claimed to be 1/52 - it would be great to have a source on this. Micromal 15:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, it's true. I get a visage every two trips there. I make almost 300m a day from them. Nobody else knows about it though, so that's why their prices are at 30m a piece... Go back to lumby newb.

The best source for visage drop rates I know of is at http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?17,18,367,58709495. If you don't feel like reading it, the drop rate is probably somewhere between 1 in 5k and 1 in 10k, but with only 16 logged drops, there's a lot of room for error there. To3cutt3r 15:36, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

You make like 300m a day from visages? Nice lie its likes 1 in 10000 chances of getting one. Nobody's that lucky so stfu.
 * He was being sarcastic... ASATO MA SAD GAMAYA 15:58, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I know this isnt much use, but I just got a dvis <3 after killing maybe 200 irons?

What monster are you killing? i got visage drop solo kbd world 2 i took it to the buy in edge ville and payed 1.6m for a dfs sold dfs bought d claws bandos tassy.

I spent three days killing iron dragons and no visage drops. I didn't even get a dragon platelegs or plateskirt drop. No clue scroll either because I had one in my bank... Just a bunch of rune limbs and javelins. And this was at range 82 so it's not like the kills came that slowly. <-- Kj1611 RS screen name.

Where are you guys talking about??? 1/1500 at steel dragons

visage
guys i have killed 3023 black drags and still no visage so your stuff on drop rate is a load of crap sorry


 * It is not. Getting it is completely random. You might get two in 10 kills, you might get one in a million kills. The drop rate on the page is just an average. 10:33, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

dude dnt worry i just got a visage on my 3031 kill yay!!!!!!!!!


 * Congrats! What were the chances. We don't have a drop rate on the Black dragon page for visage, it only says "Very rare". What drop rate are both of you talking about??  10:35, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

it was 1 in 3031 :D im so lucky nice 30mil to add to my huge bank and im only lvl 85 70def 88 ranged rofl

GUYS THERE IS NO DROP RATE IT IS RANDOM! drop rates given are averages

omg litteraly 20 seconds after i left that message the dude next to me got a visage worth 33 mil @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@'

So would killing a king black drag make it faster to get one?

just ware a ring of wealth

it increaces the chance to get any and all rare drops on any one thing so its better to increace your chances then to just kill more and the are very cheep like 10k or so i think they may be like 5k but i can kill green drags and get from +50k the usual or +0k the usual so it is random...

ring of wealths increase the chances of getting coins in drops, not rare items.

u cant get dvis's from black dragons so thts a waste of time

You, sir are an idiot. Black dragons drop visages. Next time look at the beastiary at tip.it before you make yourself look like an moron on the internet.

Basically the way it works is, if you go get a lottery ticket say the chance of you winning 1/10000 the next time you get a lottery ticket the chance of you winning is still 1/10000, what im saying is that it is not a set amount of kills before you get a visage it is random. Every kill has an equal chance of having a visage as a drop it does not increase over time. Ring of wealth has no effect on visage as it bonus drop. So therefore No drop rate just random chance of getting drop. It is done the same as getting 3rd age armour from level 3 clue, doesn't matter how many you do you still have a 1/1000 chance of getting the Armour each time. Hope this clears up some confusion. (and no i haven't had a visage before =

04:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * There was a postbag comment on how rings work, basically it said that it improved the result once you are on some kind of "rare" table already. It's on this wiki somewhere. Rich Farmbrough, 06:00 23 December 2009 (GMT).

visage ='[ with a tear in my eye
i have killed over 12 thousand iron dragons and used over 6 mills worth of pots, this is rediculous. has anybody got any tips for me? i.e. a different dragon or my own personal jesus? if u can help me out a lot more than just this chat add me on RS im (zhao yun 260) without brackets lol =] Idiot.

only iron and steel dragons drop vissage so smd

lmao your the idiot all accept green and blue and red and bronze and brutal green drags drop it..
 * Be nice. 17:09, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

blue and red dont drop it dude...

Black dragons can.

my loots
i got d legs then d skirt then d med in 100 days i thkn it is all random
 * i thkn it r randm 2. -- 01:55, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

vissage drop/ring of wealth
reading over the board i noticed that at least two ppl were mistaken about about the effect of the ring of wealth, it does effect rare drops not just coins but it does not effect"extra drops" an "extra drop" is something that is separate from the monsters actual drop such as charms. just wanted to point that out guys ya ive been at iron/steelies for a a lil over a week now and still no vissage altho i did get a few skirts this does not seem worth the effort. i can be there for more than 2 hours per trip sometimes killing as many as 45 dragons using as many as 500 bolts and most of the time after re-buying bolts and pots im only gaining a profit of 50k as anyone knows dragon bones being what they are now you can easly make 100k every 15 mins or so at green dragons. so maybe i should just stick with that but just the thrill of knowing that i have a chance of getting a vissage keeps me here waisting time lol well anyway 1/52 seems hardly believable even as an average... most ppl i know have killd 1000+ b4 there first and no one i know has gotten it b4 killing atleast 500

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don't waste your time
seriously, why spend like 3 months hoping to get a visage when you can just earn the money and buy one, 35m isn't alot. i got my dfs from running double nats for a week. (you don't need 91 rc just request assist in w36)

dont waste ur time
but y do that when u can get a skill up which can help u later on?

IMPORTANT TIP: DROP RATE IMPROVES LOADS IF YOU SPEAK TO THE GUY NORTH OF EDGE BANK WHO IS PART OF DRAGON SLAYER QUEST
 * Good luck proving that. 12:03, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but runescape specifically said that there is no way of improving the drop rate for them "including" talking to Oziach (guy from dragon slayer) the chance is as random as getting a clue scroll. sorry man but you were misinformed, or just have some issues with telling the truth

lol =[
I have spend 1m in cannonballs waiting for visage black dragon drop but.. lol drags dont like me :)

ITS RANDOM PEOPLE
YOU CAN GET THE VISAGE ON THE FIRST KILL OR YOU MAY END UP KILLING THOUSANDS OF DRAGONS AND STILL NO VISAGE, IM JUST SAYING DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP.

NO YOU CANNOT GET 2 VISAGES IN 1 DROP
Simply because Visage, is a bonus drop, therefore it is 1 item that is added to a main drop. So you can get like Dragon platelegs + Visage in same drop, but you cannot get 2 bonus drops if u know what i mean.

for all you people who say it is'nt possible to get Draconic visage from black dragons read this:

The Draconic visage is a very rare drop from black, iron, steel, and mithril dragons, as well as Skeletal Wyverns, and the King Black Dragon.

or who say that you can get a better chance by using a ring of wealth well:

The Draconic visage is a "bonus" drop. This means that it is included in a dragon's main drop, and it is never the main drop itself, meaning it can be dropped as well as another item, such as the Dragon platelegs. As such, it has been confirmed by Jagex, that the visage is NOT affected by the Ring of wealth. It is unknown whether the drop rates are different for each monster.

Visage
As everyone has said before Visage is completely random. I jsut started ranging black dragon an hour ago and I got a viage on my 18th kill on a black dragon. Never killed them a day in my life then Bam. Visage. my friend has a video of 2 visage drops in 11 kills. Yet some people will kill 100,000 and never get one. It's all odds... 1/100,000 or 1/10,000 doesn't matter. Even if you kill that ammount you are still not guarenteed a drop. You kill one and your odds are right back at square one again as if you had killed none.

Ritsu

--Y A N K M E Responds

True but not true, Yes your odds are the same each kill, but killing none means 0/1 chance of getting lol. So the more you do kill the more likely you are to earning one, but yes the odds are stacked against you, but when you do not there is no chance. Best bet is to simply go to steels or irons for decent charm drops, easy afk'ing and getting your prayer up while doing so, plus you always come back with more money if you range, I think i get a dragon drop at least 1/5 trips, so on top of rune drops, charms, dragon bones, you have a more normal chance of dragon drops, and a rare bonus drop of visage.

FACTS RELEASED BY JAGEX:

ring of wealth does not affect bonus drop, only the rare drop of a monster. (visage is a bonus drop, as stated by jagex)

pretty much do what you want, and have fun..if you try to hard you will be upset, coming from someone who killed 4k steels (i didn't count irons) but i went from 43 pray to 60 pray down there! lol

The part that bothered me most was that my friend whom i showed the way down to the dragons got a visage in 3 kills..after killing so many, that was upsetting, but is the odds.

Y A N K M E on rs

Ring of Wealth: Works on Visages?
Guys, jagex has confirmed that wearing a Ring of Wealth will NOT increase your chances of getting a visage.
 * Could we have a screenshot? He has knocked four times. 22:54, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Heres my theory on visages: if you want to, go ahead and try :) sure the odds are against you but hey.. even if you dont get one just bank your bones and youll still make profit, and range exp, (or melee if you meleeing.. i suggest range tho) if your lucky, then bam, visage, if not, then you get exp. either way its win/sorta win.

i got my visage after 2 years of not playing RS =P got on RS asked a friend for the quickest way to make some money and he pointed me to black drag =) so my first 15 kills i got one =)

stop complaining...
tbh.. if you're killing 5K-10K black drags ... then that's 796exp x 5000kills... which is anywhere between 400k and 800k exp...

i wouldn't complain at that?

ok first of all your an idiot that cant do math...... 796*5000=3,980,000...just saying,
 * Please do not flame other users on the wiki. Thank you 15:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Factual correction
The ring of wealth betters all drops and more of them. There is people who has tried for months to even get one. There is people that got one on there first kill. Get a ring of life and have a iron, steel, mith, or black dragon slayer task, it helps. The drop rate is around 1/1000 kills. It doesnt mean you could get it in 1000 kills though. It is very close to the drop rate of a d chain. It is completly random. It is said that the chance of getting a visage is the same as the chance of the evil god Zamorak giving up his evil ways. Lose hope, dont lose hope. After this I hope it is clear to you. You cant go in there and expect one.

Obvious troll is obvious.

visage drop myth
my name is usama 0

i killed about 1-2k iron and 200 steel and got visage

then later i got went back kill 77 iron for slayer task and 68 steel and got another visage

one of my friends said u need kill 150 iron + steel for visage i dno if this is true or i just got lucky


 * What you experienced there was uber-luck. There is no definite amount you may have to kill to get one, because monster kills aren't linked in any way as said by Andrew(? or Paul, well, some Jmod) in a Q&A session. 22:53, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

GOD DAM IM RICH FROM VISAGE? ITS GOD DAMN IM RICH FROM LIEING By: Saikat
iight LOOK i was startin to kill steel's iron's on my lvl 95 wit 76 range.. i killed 2 steel drags and got 1 visage. my first time ever killing those. sooo.. i goto kill 5 irons. get visage. so now i goto black dragon. kill 43 and get another visage. and now i goto kill mith drags i get dragon full helm from 5 kills and 7 more another visage so yes i am VERY lucky. and i have 2 dfs'es d claws 600m cash now. in ALL. ty jaGex!!!! visages are f.t.w....

dude you cant get sooo much money in just a few kills... its imposible so stop lyng and get a break from ur mouth... NUB

It's possible, but this is not the correct place to discuss it and neither of you signed your posts. -- 04:31, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

my advise to vissage hunters
i never "try" to get a vissage, i simply do my slayer tasks, and hope for the best, i got a d vissage last month, i would guess it was after arround 1000-1200 black dragon kills.

ppl i dunno is i choose black, steel or iron drags to kill for getting a visage.

i would like to know wich drag is better for visage hunting

i'm very lucky because i killed 3 steels and 8 irons for a total of 11 drags. Before that i had killed about 10 more steels in my lifetime. I'm lucky and i didn't want a visage when i went to kill them. i wanted dragon platelegs because i was poor and couldnt afford them.

VISAGE ATTEMPSS
OKAY WELL BACK LIKE A YEAR AGO IK TIME GOES ON I TRIED NUMEROUS OF TIMES FOR THE VISAGE KILLED ABOUT 50+ BLACK DRAGS THEN I STOPPED DOING THEM. KILLED 2 KBDS AND STOPPED DOING THAT.. I KILLED ABOUT 300+ IRON DRAGONS AND NO VISAGE. ITS ALL LUCK.

Drop rate
I am wondering whether we should use this thread as a reliable source so that we could have an estimate of what the drop rate of the visage would be. I couldn't find any other drop log threads with a very large (20,000+) drop sample, so it is rather hard to confirm these figures. I do think however that it is a reasonably reliable thread, where you would have to manually show them your visage drop before they add it. It also has the advantage of having hundreds of thousands of recorded drops.

I think that we should use it. What does anybody else think?? 09:27, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sicne nobody has commented in nearly a week, I will take that as a vote of silence. I might add the links if nobody else comments in the next 24 hours. 04:24, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bs Wth a nut on top
i was fighting iron drags fir a week, steels for 1 week and i was fighting black drags for 3 weeks and kbd 10 times....i have ring of wealth on at all times i have spoken to the noob from dragon slay quest and i have no visage i lost  6mil  in runescape and i cant just get a visage..i really want a bgs but i never have money for it and i cant even get a whip...

runscape acc
if u wana talk to me about drag visage my rs acc name is achient you...kk         GL with geting a visage  >.<

Trick for visage
Cannoning iron dragons is the best way to get visage :)

deing sucks
i have lost 6mil i have only 200k only i cant aford cannon letalone buy balls ='[

cannoning
Cannoning is dumb idea or your cannons toast btw.

Self knowledge on visage drops
All visage drops are simply a matter of chance and luck, there isn't a fixed drop rate and it is never guaranteed that a certain number of drops will get you a visage (maybe if you killed 1,000,000,000,000,000 mithril dragons might insure you getting it). I've played for years and self searched for the visage as a drop, killed every known dragon type Runescape has confirmed to drop it. Black dragons, Iron dragons, Steel Dragons, King Black Dragons, and Mithril Dragons. I've killed thousands of Black Dragons and several hundred Mithril Dragons. I still have not attained a single visage drop. All I can suggest is go for the Mithril Dragon and at least in your attempts, you may earn yourself a Dragon Full Helm. Along with other high value drops that could may as well total up to the amount you need to buy your own Dragonfire Shield.

Again, it is all luck and nothing more. Nothing increases the chance, nothing decreases it (outside of fighting ones that don't drop it like Green Dragons, durp). Good luck to anyone out there searching for it. Still searching for mine.

2 visages in one trip!!!
hahahahahaha i'd killed thousands of dragons before, in one slayer task of 76 iron dragons, i got TWO visages... good luck everyone haha

About the visage
On my main, 5001 black dragon kills, 15 days, 0 visages

On my pure, Visage 1: 451 kills, 365 kills later #2.

Completly random...

Unless you need range exp or so, dont bother wasting your time!

its impossible to kill that many black dragons in just 15 days even if you did nothing but black drags

visage only drops when you're not expecting tho -.-

ok i was killin blk drags yester day n i got like 2 drag visages ring of wealth does affect it cuz me n my cuzin wer killin em at the same time he didnt hv ring o wealth i did he didnt get any dragon visages also bein a lower lvl increases ur chances of getting a dragon visage hp ths kinda helps im lvl 43

well i am only going to try get 80 range there and by collecting the d bones i would have made 10m i have killed dragons before but i would only suggest going to kill dragons for experience not hoping for an visage and the drop is completely random.