User talk:卐/archive

Unblock Request
Well I understand that with a username comprising of a swastika may carry with it the stigma of having been a the symbol for Nazi Germany; before this is was used worldwide and is still remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

I don't feel that this one character symbol contains offensive language and I feel that, from the RuneScape wikia user block policy, Azaz129 has exceeded his authority by blocking me permanently (indef block) contrary to this extract from the RuneScape:User block policy "A user may be permanently banned from editing the wiki, in part or in whole. To be banned, a user in question must have community consensus or Wikia staff approval. Users who attempt to evade their ban are blocked from editing the wiki." Unless Azaz129 is a Wikia staff member or complete community consesus is just one person then this goes against the projects own policy.

Azaz129 also forgot to notify me about being blocked, leading me to being quite shocked when I tried to contribute again in good faith with HD images. As my only two edits were in good faith and I corrected my own mistake is there any need for this? No other project I have been on has been like this and I wish for a chance to help the wiki.


 * Whilst I don't think it is a good idea to have an obscure symbol as a username, I can't see that it is against the user block policy. I will raise it with Azaz rather than just unblock you, as he may have something to say on the matter. 12:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the timely response, I understand your hesitation in the matter. 卐 12:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes the swastika was associated with religious groups centuries before the 1930's, but I would like to know a bit of the reasoning behind your choice of username. Why a swastika? CFLM ( Talk ) 12:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't actually choose it because of its associations and stigmas; I knew when I registered for wikia that I wanted a one character username and there just weren't many ones that visually appealed to me (and available). There just isn't another explanation for it. 卐 12:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Would there be a problem in me being temporarily unblocked to upload some (35) pictures? 卐 16:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

To be clear, you the person are not banned. The swastika account is blocked in accordance with the policy of offensive user names. Making another account IS allowed since you the person were not banned. Now as to whether the swastika account should be banned, that is a whole different debate. I personally have long felt that it should be brought back into society and the evils associated with it washed away (NOT forgotten, but blame the evil done, not the symbol).--Degenret01 06:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that the username was offensive. Being Jewish, I hate every time I see a swastika so I believe that it is very offensive. I don't like blocking or banning, and I am glad you want to upload 35 images to the wiki, but please, make a new non-offensive account. 06:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * People choose to view things based on their upbringing and personal bias; if someone is choosing to use the 卐 as their username and edits to the benefit of the wiki without showing any Neo-Nazi bias then wouldn't that one person be helping the overall image of the 卐? If people choose to hate a symbol that was used for peace just because someone used it in conjunction with their own perversion of the idea of peace should they also choose to hate several religious sects because they use it as their symbol? It still remains widely used in the world known religions Hinduism and Buddhism and other Eastern/Dharmic religions. If this one person is using it on the path of good won't this help peoples perception of this holy symbol that was perverted? Of course if this person is a vandal they would be exposed quickly because they would be on a much shorter leash just because of the username and would probably be permanently blocked without objection. Anonymous commentor 08:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

What if I could get unblocked but be on a very short leash as proposed by Anonymous, a finitely short leash would still be more than enough to help, I really just want to continue contributing to the wiki from my Wikia account which is the same on all wikia projects. 卐 11:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I do agree that he should be unblocked just because he has a "bad" username. Also, as the anonymous commenter stated above, the person should be able to edit the wiki without supporting the bad ideas behind the swastika symbol. If he edits the wiki in a good way and does not really support the symbol in anyway, other than the name(obviously that will pop up when he edits), he should be allowed to edit without changing the name. I think we should just unblock him for now while we are discussing this and block the name if a consensus happens. There shouldn't really be a good reason to prevent him from uploading the image when all he wants is to help us and now we can't because he is still blocked while trying to plead his case. 11:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Per hurston's comment below. 08:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

He is already using another account for now so uploading content is not an issue. I would like us to be an open and fair wiki, but at the same time stay away from offending other users. Quite a | catch 22 really. Swastika person, could you please provide links to all other wiki projects where you use the swastika for your name? Links to your user page on those sites would be very helpful. --Degenret01 23:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Mine:
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 * (As of yet undeveloped)
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 * I would love it if someone would help me make a working collapsible navbox :) Darn


 * (As of yet undeveloped)

I have also participated in wikianswers a little bit 卐 07:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, I think azliq is the only one that can do it. 07:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

So you don't actually have that symbol on a real wiki with real editors whom have had a chance to interact with you? Those links, I'm sure you aware, go to wikis where your the only contributor. Not helpful. --Degenret01 08:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The wikis you have listed are all underdeveloped. 08:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Those wikis look like they were just created. Also, I don't see why an IP would suddenly come on the wiki and immediately find this page and leave their comment here. The edit before the IP's was made 2 hours ago which makes it unlikely that the IP found the link to this talk in the Recentchanges. At the risk of assuming bad faith, does something smell fishy here? In any case, it's not difficult to create a new account name. The swastika symbol may offend others, so why have the risk of doing so? The simplest solution would be to create a new account. 08:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You are right Caleb. I did a checkuser and the IP who made that edit is the same as this user. I'm now firmly of the opinion that this user should not be unblocked. 08:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Essentially sockpuppeting. This user should definitely not be unblocked. 08:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

[Edit conflict] Sorry, in hindsight the only active wiki I edited on was [] I only made one edit there which isn't helpful but the response wasn't too negative, just inquisitive. Would I be able to be put on a trial as the blocking policy for usernames only refers to offensive language, advertising, RS rule breaking etc. and doesn't say anything about a symbol. 卐 08:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I find the symbol very insulting and racist and if you want to help us so badly simply make a new account. -- 11:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

We are done discussing it noah.=/ 11:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

End result
Discussion closed and I will continue building up my wiki's. In the future when I come back then I hope that I will be able to show I am trying to clean the stigma of the 卐 what little I can. 卐 08:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Final Present
Here's a final present for all of you out there using Firefox :)

That isn't quite what I wanted to show the comparison between .gif and .png, sorry.


 * We um...Kinda have Hapi to do that. He has camtasia also. Thanks anyways! 10:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Mate, this is not made with camtasia. And Hapi does not have the knowledge how to make an animated .png file... 10:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * He made a .gif and a .png file. I'm talking about him making an animated file with camtasia. 10:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I put in the wrong thing for my animated .png file, it was made using another program but the base recording for both was taken in camtasia. I meant this to show the difference between animated .png and animated .gif bit overall the colour palette for this image was reasonable in .gif, compared to how it normally is. RoryJ 10:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Filesize is 9 times as big in .png =| 10:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I know =| But it's a sixth of the size of a .avi RoryJ 10:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Image uploading problem
I decided to upload everything I have first and while uploading ] there is a serious problem where I've uploaded the picture but it still uses the old picture in the article, the thumbnail on the page is the old one and the new picture can only be seen on the page; when I try and reupload it it tells me that it is a duplicate of the previous image :( RoryJ 11:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You should use your talk page now.=/ Anyways, I've heard that the wikia is still experiencing technically difficulties with the images. Give it a few minutes (or days. =/ ) and it will be good. 11:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)