RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Slang dictionary (1)

Slang dictionary
There is no reason for this article. This article teaches our users the inappropriate means of bypassing the chat filter issued by Jagex. So what, this wikia is not affiliated with Jagex, but why must we teach it's players and users how to break it's rules. This page allows for unfiltered/uncensored content that is both discriminating and offensive. It breaks all standards and policies around offensive and sexually explicit language, and because it's "slang" it's considered informational. There is no needs for this article what-so-ever on this wikia!!!!

'''If a deletion is not a census we can all agree on, perhaps instead we could come to a mutual census and delete all offensive content and leave the regular slang alone. I'd much rather prefer this as there is some very useful information on this article. Just please remove all the inappropriate ones. '''

Thanks!

11:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove all Offensive Content - As per above - 11:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove only Offensive Content - There are a lot of players (like me) that English isnt our native language, I for one, couldnt understand the slang people use. And of course I never use offensive language. This guide has helped alot of my mexican friends that play Runescape too... so pls reconsider its deletion, but not its modification Jd0064 15:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove all content The internet slang dictionary is endless. This page was discussed before to be removed, and once again, I see no need for it as a page. We already have redirects for all the runescape slang to the correct article i.e. addy arrows. It is also highly offensive. ‎Atlandy 15:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove only offensive content - There are plenty of people who don't know a DDS from a DDP, so the majority of the content should be kept. A note at the top of the article to (try to) stop people adding such content back in would also be good. 16:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete-Per Atlandy. WWTDD? 16:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

(Support transferred from talk page)


 * Delete -  15:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]] Lanning9 [[Image:Ancient_staff.png]] 16:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment - Why are we following Jagex's rules on this one, but not other pages? What is wrong with the community? We don't want players to say "penis" but we'll let them see the Mod center? We need to focus on consistency... 17:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Then i'd say why not make all the pages follow the rules? (ps. i cant find the mod center, but ahh whatever) 18:55, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I was refering to this discussion. 19:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly, there is no consistency. Wikia's states right in it's policy that the rules of RuneScape must be respected. Thats why abolishing the Mod Center information is a must!!!!!! I totally agree with you!!!!!! 19:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - I would totally support in revamping the page and removing ALL offensive material, I personallly Use this page to understand what my fellow players are saying, the RsGG 'Player dictionary' does NOT cover a majority of the slang/abbreviations used in the game, these are almost essential to understand when playing the game. But I stand at Oppose for deletion of the article for that reason stated above.   [[Image:P_hauberk.PNG‎ ]]  floppyc5  [[Image:Ancient_Tally.png‎ ]]  19:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Support 165.155.192.94 19:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep for foreigners is this page VERY helpfull.TY.
 * Kinda an oxymoron....confused? 20:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove All Offensive Content - I can see why Karlis want's to remove the page in it's interity, but it would still be consistent if we were to only remove the offensive parts of the page, and just leave slang for items or certain abbreviations such as, "LOL", "ROFL", "BGS" and etc.. Anything like, "STFU" would have to be further discussed, as all though it's common, people can see it incredibly offensive. 20:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * To clarify, I said neither remove or keep. I would just like to see the same rules and guidelines followed on two controversial pages. If we are going to delete this because it breaks Jagex's rules, then the other page I mentioned should not be formed. If the other page is formed, then this page should remain 100% as is. I remain neutral on this page for now. 20:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Support Per above. But I believe we should leave the abbreviations in and simple describe them as being offensive, rather than explaining precisely what they mean. i.e. "stfu" could be something like "An offensive abbreviation meaning 'shut up'". 20:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete I agree. It's pointless and somewhat offensive.   Cund4 talk!

Keep jigenbakado Please! Keep the slang dictionary as it is!! Half the stuff on runescape is so-called "offensive" anyway! Maybe you could make a separate dictionary without the coarse language. Please listen to the previous idea!

Neutral True, a slang dictionary may contain offensive language and content, but nonetheless, a dictionary of other languages, such as spanish, japanese, french, exc., is bound to have offensive language, correct? However, I am not sure if we should keep the slang dictionary on the RuneScape wiki, because although it is resourceful in knowing what a 'bgs' is, or the abbreviation of what 'stfu' means, a suprising number of terms, such as 'lol' or '1337', is in a category of general slang language, and thus, can be found on certain sites, such as wikipedia, perhaps? Plus, I find that 90% of the time, if I need a clarification on what the term means, I can always ask a player or friend.

Overall, I cannot make up my mind as to whether or not the contents of the Slang dictionary should be deleted partially or completely. But I at least like to convey this: "No matter what language of a dictionary you are using, there is bound to be a word or words that can be used to offend people." So at least keep that in mind if you are considering to delete this article. I cannot support deletion, but at the same time, I feel that I cannot oppose it either.--Pkthis 20:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep The dictionary helped me understand some of what my friends were saying, its helpful. --Nalyd Renrut 20:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete Takes 3 seconds to ask someone what they mean. There's not even a warning for offensive language. Just delete it.--Kodeman76 21:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep We dont need to follow Jagex' rules, every single dictionary contains offensive words, it might be helpful, and if we were to remove every page which is considered a bit offensive removre pages as Glitch, or go display quest spoilers only a day from release. Theres also no real need to remove it, because the so called "Offensive terms" need to be understood too, we cant make players believe a term like "STFU" is a welcoming term.

Delete - It's just Jagex's official Player Dictionary, with offensive language and ASCII art randomly thrown in. Delete it.

Keep - This is just another attempt at censoring the wiki. 22:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep - per InstantWinston. This is the RuneScape Wiki, not a Jagex controlled website. 22:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Strongly Keep - A user if offended by the article has the right to ignore it or not read it. It is that simple, Like InstantWinston and Soldier 1033 i do not want the wiki to be any more censored. So far the wiki is good there is no purpose in deleting the article. This isnt a Kids Playground and if anyone seriously feels offended just dont click on it. Seriously people learn "slang" words and swear words else where. God Of War 22:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Censorship? Does a dictionary really need to say, "Yeah, As$ is a slang term that means Ass." Uh, no, that's not defining a slang term. That's instructions for evading the censor. And why do we have an entry for "<( (_Crayola_( "? What's that supposed to be doing here? Why is our "dictionary" giving a definition for an ASCII drawing of a crayon? All the actual abbreviations and stuff are basically just copied from the Knowledge base. Case in point: (o), (a), and (d). Those are only in there because the Jagex version has them; it's obvious it was just copied from there. Nobody actually refers to a Ring of Charos as just "I used my (a) to get half price on Charter Ships." troacctid 23:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Strong Keep- As said above, if a user is offended by the article he/she has the right to ignore or not read it.-- 23:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Clarify - When I supported, I did mean to only delete the offensive material. Just thought I ought to point that out. 00:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Slight Delete - I find that some of it is useful, but a good portion of it doesn't work out. I think that we should keep the ones that do not bypass the censor and are also commonly used. For certain ones, it might be a possibility to remove offensive meanings. Some phrases are not common and aren't used or rarely at all, while others have partial or incorrect meanings. That's my idea (From my post on the Slang Talk Page) -Monkey139 00:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep This is a wiki. It's for reference purposes. Also, I find this article quite useful in order to understand some of the language on RuneScape. I give my support. No questions asked. 01:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you meant to put "against". Supporting means you want it to be deleted. 02:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I just clarified all the votes so they say "Keep" or "Delete."

Keep article, but revamp - The majority of items listed are completely unnecessary ("<( (_Crayola_( ", "@$$", "<(^.^<), ^(^.^)^, (>^.^)>, (^(^.(^.^).^)^)", things like that ALL need to be removed). If items pertain to RuneScape or general internet lingo, keep them, because there are some actually useful bits of info in there. "702/Jad", "p++", "Chins", etc, are all things that are common in RS but that a new player would have no idea what people are talking about, so the list could be used for that. If it can be made into a RuneScape slang dictionary and not a "WtfRandomInternet" slang dictionary, then it's highly useful. 01:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep - I know this isn't wikipedia, but since we are related to wikipedia, being an encylopedic wikia, we shouldn't have to censor what could be considered information of encyclopedic value. While I do agree that some of the material on this page could be considered offensive to some, it does provide information on commonly used slang in runescape and is therefore valauable to some people. Sir Lenehan  01:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

The article should be deleted. Slang is not an inherent part of the game, only the people who play it. It's my belief that unless the information explicitly pertains to the RuneScape game or website, it should not be here. It may be useful to some players, but an article's usefulness and an article's notability are not the same. If I made an article pertaining to a tasty chocolate chip cookie recipe perhaps someone would find it useful, but it certainly wouldn't have a place anywhere on the Wiki. A less severe but similar scenario exists here.

I would be in favor of keeping the article after an extensive cleanup (which it needs anyway), but determining what makes for noteworthy slang or not would be a virtually impossible task and a waste of investment. --Neo Garland 02:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete only offensive content - Agreed we don't need to be teaching how to bypass the filters, but useful non-offensive definitions of abbreviations (etc.) should be kept. 02:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Strong Delete - There is practically NO POINT in having this wiki here. I know that we do not have to read it if we don't want to, but it is a wasted wiki. Slang cannot be learned by reading a long list of all the different kinds of casual terms. It is simply a matter of being exposed and playing the game long enough. Also, a player who hears a word he/she has never seen before won't think "Hmm...what does that word mean? I'm going to use the RUNESCAPE WIKI for this!"...uh yeah...I didn't think so.'' Chungus 02:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I do. And many others do, too. 04:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Clarification - Okay, I know I suggested removing the offensive material, but we Can do something else. Kind of how we have the spoiler warning on the, Betrayal at Falador article, we can put one up that states something like, " WARNING!  This article contains highly offensive content! The RuneScape Wiki WILL NOT be held liable for any offense to any parties, or damages to RuneScape accounts caused by avoiding the censor." 03:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Its pointless. As it says on the page, it will never be complete, and to say the truth, I havent seen most of those words in all the years I have been playing. Delete it, its a waste of time. 03:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Per above. CFLM ( Talk ) 04:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Strong Keep - This is an encyclopedia. We should have everything that a RuneScape player needs information on. And this article is used by many people. I also find it very useful. And what happens if we get rid of the "offensive" material? People wouldn't find certain words they wanted to look up in it. Keep the page, and leave it as it is. 04:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep - per C Teng. €MØŠwô®L[) 05:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep - per InstantWinston. Naikiw 05:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep - I hadn't realized that this wiki was centralized around keeping Jagex happy (i.e. the current discussion on removing classified info) and making it "safe" for you very easily offended people. If we are going to start censoring and deleting "offensive" material, I believe we should censor all weapon images. They are pointy, you might get hurt. Dsctatom 06:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So only the weak take offense to penis pictures and the f word? And this has nothing to do with Jagex. This is about decency. 07:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Strong Keep - This page is very useful. We're here to make an encyclopedia/fansite/whatever of RuneScape. This is about RuneScape. It helps. We're uncensored. What more could you want?

Though, there are some rather stupid entries. "N.@.K.E.D." means "naked"? Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone knew that (not that we needed to...). The ASCII Crayola crayon is also pointless. Stuff like that wouldn't hurt to be removed. 07:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC) (Edit conflict)

Keep As a fairly high leveld player, I often find myself looking at this page to translate some strange language. Hankmeister 07:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove Offencive im a seasoned RS player [2002] and i still dont understand alot of the abbreviations and slang used nowadays ._.

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