User talk:JivaSoul/Archive 1

Pronunciation
It's not necessary to explicitly say "correctly pronounced". If it weren't correct, it wouldn't be listed. Also, it's not necessary to compare it to words in yet another language. 18:49, January 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alrighty, thank you! JivaSoul (talk) 21:53, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Flagging of 'sni[gg]er' as offensive in transcripts
I fixed it. 04:10, January 31, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you! JivaSoul (talk) 05:53, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Style guide
First of all; thank you very much for cleaning up/extending the dialogue/transcript pages! =D I do however have some things I'd like to mention: I noticed that you add spaces in headers like == Header ==, could you please remove those space like ==Header==. Also could you place templates like Qact on a new line instead of pasting them at the end of some text?

Like: * Player: Lorum ipsum.


 * Player: Questi transcripti.

Instead of: * Player: Lorum ipsum.
 * Player: Questi transcripti.

For more detailed information see RuneScape:Style guide/Wiki code. Thank you! 09:59, February 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure, thanks for catching that! I have been using the Visual Editor many times (simply for convenience) and I notice now that I think that when I add a header or a template sometimes the wiki code incorrectly adds things like spaces in the headers and does not move templates to a new line. I'll try to catch that when I see it happen. May be best to look over the source code and make sure that it's correct before hitting 'submit'!  Thanks again. :D JivaSoul (talk) 05:32, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

u go gurl
No one's thanked you yet for all the dialogue work, it seems. I personally find it to be some of the most tedious work to do, but it's great to see someone doing it so diligently. 15:16, February 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! :) JivaSoul (talk) 22:23, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Images
Hey, if you're taking any more images in the future please make sure you have 4x Anti Aliasing turned on and lighting detail turned to low in game. Also you should use an orb of oculus as it will let you get a larger image with a better angle. If you want any help with image taking you can leave me a message on my talk page or ask me in chat :) Thanks, 16:03, February 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you! :) Will do. JivaSoul (talk) 22:26, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Redirects
Hey, are you adding " __STATICREDIRECT__ " to those yourself? Or is the editor doing that? Either way it shouldn't really be there. 00:37, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Visual Editor's adding that-sorry-will try to catch that when I see it! Thanks. JivaSoul (talk) 02:53, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, visual editor is a pain in the ass. You can change your default editor to source in Special:Preferences. 15:34, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Nomad's Elegy
JivaSoul, I noticed that you were seperating a lot of the dialogue that is spoken by a single individual? Is there a reason that you had for that? Cache117 (talk) 23:26, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * That was temporary! It's fixed now. Thanks! JivaSoul (talk) 00:33, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Man (West Ardougne)
Hey, looks like you never made a dialogue page. Should he have one?


 * Yes, I believe so. Just need to head to West Ardougne to find him and track him down to have the dialogue. So far I've only done so with the Woman. JivaSoul (talk) 00:37, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

hello
it's fflam 22:43, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Scroll of cleansing
Don't forget to fix [ double redirects] after moving a page -- 19:23, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Right-thank you! JivaSoul (talk) 19:26, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Visual editor
Hi, I've noticed you're using the visual editor. While this isn't a problem in itself, it does cause some weird things to pop up sometimes, especially where links are concerned. One example is this edit, where your modification to punctuation near a link caused it to become piped and put the punctuation inside the link, so The Heart; became The Heart;. Unfortunately I don't know how to stop it from doing this if you continue to use the visual editor, but I just wanted you to be aware of the situation. (And don't worry, you're not the only one that visual editor does this to, it likes to make errors like that all the time.) 18:53, March 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me to these errors - yes, the Visual Editor acts strangely sometimes. I do find the Visual Editor convenient but it is best to at least check over the Source Editor to check for and see little errors like that and fix them as they come, and I'll try to catch them as they come. :) JivaSoul (talk) 19:23, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

Iestin Edern dialogue
You reformatted the page, quoting the style guide. However, if you read the guide it has the following sentence: "It is not necessary to combine dialogue in this way, but it is normally acceptable to do so." It seems fairly redundant to change it, as it already fit the style guide. BlaiddSiocled (talk) 22:04, March 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * That is correct; however, the preferred approach currently seems to be to combine dialogue wherever possible except where it makes more sense not to do so (for example, where a person "speaks" blank text in a dialogue box) and this has been the common practice across quest and NPC dialogue transcripts for much of wiki, so other pages that have dialogue not combined are also currently being edited to have the dialogue combined (by those before me, not only by me) for consistency. Personally I actually like the dialogue being separated out, to see where each dialogue box ends and the next begins; however, the general consensus is that it's best to maintain consistency across the board and avoid confusion. (If the policy/common practice changes, we can always separate the dialogue out again!) In any case, the 'format as per style guide' remark was in reference to other minor corrections such as addition of (Continues below) and little things like that. JivaSoul (talk) 01:30, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Transcripts
Hi, you may be interested on some pending (and likely to happen) changes at Forum:Transcript namespace. 00:12, March 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know! JivaSoul (talk) 05:09, March 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Forum:Minor transcript reformatting 17:37, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

pls
y u so VisualEditor 10:32, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

A request
Please cease to use the visual editor if you're going to copy and paste things. It really, really isn't ideal.

Why?

This edit is a good example. A small copy paste of a simple sentence in visual editor added this code to the page:

While in the Elder Halls:

Keep up the work on transcripts, by all means, but please bear in my what I've said here. 16:32, May 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Will do; thank you! JivaSoul (talk) 23:14, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

P U
you stink 23:06, May 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hahaha. JivaSoul (talk) 23:19, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Meg's cases transcript nav?
Why is Template:Transcript of Meg's cases needed when most of the links link to the same page and there's table of contents doing the same thing? 07:06, May 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * It's to organize and separate the cases by type (Missing People, Missing Pet, Missing Item, Miscellaneous) as is done on the actual Mega May panel. This was previously done in a different way on only the Guide way which frankly I found to be more confusing, and was not at all done on the Transcript page which had all the cases in a seemingly random order (not release date order?) but in the format that's there now (each case under its own header) with no indication of what case belonged to what type. Now both pages are fully consistent, all of the cases on both pages are in the Transcript format (each with its own header) and alphabetized, the ToC lists them in alphabetical order (which I find easier to access) and the navbox sorts them by case type and lists them in the order that they appear on-screen when you open the Mega May interface and turn to the cases tab. JivaSoul (talk) 15:35, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

Adventure's log
Just because it was removed, doesn't mean the quest information is completely gone. If you completed a quest, it would still appear on your RuneMetric along with this link:

http://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/rssfeed?searchName=NameHere

--Jlun2 (talk) 17:24, May 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Correct. I assume(d) that would be on a separate RuneMetric quest complete page, though? JivaSoul (talk) 18:49, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

sic
You're going really overboard with marking [sic] in transcripts. Like, really super overboard. Worst of all, in doing so, you've been marking things that are either correct or technically not wrong.

Like this:
 * "Actually, that is a sensible plan. If [sic] a little dull by comparison."

That makes no sense. Dialogue isn't meant to be essay-level correct. In an informal setting (which all dialogue can be assumed to be), this line is perfectly grammatical.

Sic also shouldn't be used to mark punctuation errors.


 * "Linza here is a fraud, a thief [sic] and a liar. She never learned to smith dragon weapons. She stole the secrets from the Dragonkin. Stole the ore from them as well."

There, you appear to have marked the absence of an Oxford comma. Which is actually a non error.


 * "The Dragonkin; [sic] they found a way to do something to him! He's powerless!"

While that is technically an improper use of a semicolon, it's an error that would go completely unnoticed unless pointed out.

Sic should be left to egregious and obvious spelling errors and typos. Like this one:


 * "I have no ide... [sic]"

Above all, sic ends up being extremely distracting. If you have concerns about countless errors not on your part scattered about a page, the better solution would be adding a single header template explaining the situation: "Hey, this article is copied verbatim. And you know Jagex—There's a looooot of errors." 00:00, May 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Duly noted. Thank you! JivaSoul (talk) 14:00, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Cerridwyn
Hey, nice job on Cerridwyn. Two things, though: first of all, some of the sections seem very irrelevant to the article at hand, e.g. the one on Kandarin's foundation. While it fits the flow of the text, it has nothing to do with the elf in question whatsoever. On a related note, some of the sections have only one paragraph; if that occurs, some sections should really be merged. Second, you claim Cerridwyn was Lord Cadarn between Baxtorian and Arianwyn. As far as I'm aware, this is wrong, since Arianwyn was the one to lead the rebel elves to safety following Baxtorian's retreat beneath his waterfall and the loss of Prifddinas. Do you have any sources to back the claim up? 11:50, July 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks! Yes, you're right, and that was a very rough first draft. I'll work on revising it and I'll keep in mind what you say. As far as Cerridwyn being leader, I don't have the reference in front of me at the moment (all the references still need to be put in-including all those temporarily marked with the 'OccDur' template near the top-it's a work in progress). But IIRC yes, there is a reference for this, that Cerridwyn is an elder (after King/Lord Baxtorian, but before Arianwyn) and it is because of this that his work was eligible to be included in Voice of the Elders. Cerridwyn however did not succeed in claiming victory and eventually Arianwyn was chosen (through meritocracy, per Islwyn) to lead. It was of course under Arianwyn that the rebel elves were led into victory. Also makes sense since normally elven lifespans are supposed to be only around 500 years (unless they, like the other elders, manage to find ways to keep alive and/or keep their bodies young), Cerridwyn is a contemporary of Lord Baxtorian (as per The Great Divide & Voice of the Elders) whereas (as per The Light Within & post-quest dialogue) Arianwyn is repeatedly noted to be a young elf - Lord Baxtorian calls him 'Young Cadarn'. Yet the war stretched from year 1200 of the Fourth Age (which lasted for 2000 years) through the early Sixth Age (including 169 years of the Fifth Age and at most-by mapping the elf quest timeline with the timeline given in Sliske's writings in Kindred Spirits-a couple of years of the Sixth Age). Arianwyn could not be a young elf if he had been around that long. :-) Iestin Edern and Kelyn are also noted to be young, and both were born after Prifddinas fell. Cerridwyn however is confirmed to be Lord Baxtorian's contemporary. So it also makes sense due to the elf history timeline that Cerridwyn Cadarn would be an interim leader before Arianwyn takes over. But we do need to put those references in :-) I'll work on it. JivaSoul (talk) 18:14, July 26, 2016 (UTC)