RuneScape:Chat/Logs/07 July 2013

 23:19 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; !test 23:19 &lt;RSChatBot&gt; Ciphrius Kane: Hai! 23:24 &lt;Cåm&gt; !test 23:24 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Soo...in the news this week, RSChatBot doesn't like Cam 23:25 &lt;Hairr&gt; TyBot loves Cåm though &lt;3 23:25 &lt;Hairr&gt; yay python and unicode 23:25 &lt;Cåm&gt; python doesn't like unicode, does it? 23:25 &lt;Walrus068&gt; yes it does 23:26 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Ooooooh! They have DW monopoly! 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; cam: in some situations 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; if the encoding is different 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; then it shoves errors in your face 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; so you have to change the encoding to unicode from the start and have to convert sections to strings when you want to use it 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; why can't it be like C 23:26 &lt;Hairr&gt; or any other language ever 23:27 &lt;Hairr&gt; like python3 23:27 &lt;Cåm&gt; python is sounding less attractive 23:27 &lt;Hairr&gt; cam: that's only when you're doing web requests though, since it returns different data encodings most of the time 23:27 &lt;Cåm&gt; it doesn't do this in python 3? 23:27 &lt;Hairr&gt; nope 23:27 &lt;Hairr&gt; and any other language 23:28 &lt;Cåm&gt; I bet php does something funky with unicode 23:28 &lt;Cåm&gt; because erryone loves php 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; PHP was created when utf-8 wasn't supported, so it might not even support it 23:29 &lt;Walrus068&gt; lol everybody loves php 23:29 -!- Ka0lan has left Special:Chat. 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; when in doubt, use Java or any C language 23:29 &lt;Hairr&gt; &lt;3 23:29 &lt;Cåm&gt; I swear even mediawiki devs dislike it 23:30 &lt;Walrus068&gt; literally everybody dislikes it 23:30 -!- TonyBest100 has left Special:Chat. 23:30 &lt;Cåm&gt; I do wonder why mediawiki is in php though. legacy reasons? 23:30 &lt;Hairr&gt; Mosts servers support php 23:30 &lt;Hairr&gt; most 23:32 &lt;Hairr&gt; For example, most servers support server-side PHP, rather than python, ruby, perl, cgi, etc 23:33 &lt;Cåm&gt; what do people use instead of php? asp? 23:33 &lt;Walrus068&gt; java 23:33 &lt;Walrus068&gt; c 23:33 &lt;Walrus068&gt; usually 23:34 &lt;Hairr&gt; http://blog.websitesframeworks.com/2013/03/framework-language-statistics-usage-21/serverside-language/ @ Cam 23:34 &lt;Cåm&gt; wikipedia came up with lua as one option 23:35 &lt;Cåm&gt; still haven't looked at the lua modules for mw 23:35 &lt;Hairr&gt; You can turn any programming language into a server-side programming language tbh 23:36 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; http://i.imgur.com/8Nxfe2n.jpg?1 23:36 &lt;Hairr&gt; System.out.println("&lt;body&gt;&lt;span style=\"color:red;\"&gt;hi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/body&gt;"); 23:38 -!- Dogfoger has left Special:Chat. 23:38 -!- Dogfoger has joined Special:Chat 23:39 -!- Dogfoger has left Special:Chat. 23:42 &lt;Cåm&gt; lua comments are ugly... 23:42 &lt;Cåm&gt; why can't you use /* */... 23:44 -!- Walrus068 has left Special:Chat. 23:49 &lt;AnselaJonla&gt; http://i.imgur.com/1fDbFOc.jpg 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; poor cam 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; you wouldn't like python then 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; because you only comment with # 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; well 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; you could use docstrings 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; so never mind 23:49 &lt;Hairr&gt; &lt;3 23:50 &lt;Cåm&gt; I can deal with #, --comment just feels odd 23:50 &lt;Hairr&gt; """ 23:50 &lt;Hairr&gt; this is a long comment 23:50 &lt;Hairr&gt; woo hoo 23:50 &lt;Hairr&gt; """ 23:50 &lt;Cåm&gt; even more so considering it feels like wikitext 23:51 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Yay 23:51 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Keystone Secondus. 23:51 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Err 23:51 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Apparently Simba and Nala aren't siblings 23:51 &lt;Hairr&gt; Cam: Just make your own interpreter to make your perfect language 23:51 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Secundus* 23:51 &lt;Cåm&gt; I'd end up missing important things out 23:51 &lt;AnselaJonla&gt; http://imgur.com/gallery/cJAHt 23:52 &lt;Cåm&gt; I still have yet to find a legit use for try...catch 23:53 &lt;Hairr&gt; you should try java, cam 23:53 &lt;Cåm&gt; I keep meaning to have a go at writing a nice simple wiki bot 23:54 &lt;Cåm&gt; maybe after I finish cleaning up the js 23:54 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; I programmed a bot once. It had a meltdown and developed depression 23:54 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; He left me to go travel on a ship 23:55 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Would someone who's level 176 be able to take one of the Ascenion Order bosses? 23:55 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; likely not 23:55 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; well, what armour do you have? 23:56 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Uhh, only full Armadyl at the moment. 23:56 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Working towards some Death Lotus. :p 23:56 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; what weapon? 23:56 -!- TonyBest100 has joined Special:Chat 23:57 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; I dunno, what would you recommend? 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; import MediaWiki; 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; MediaWiki wiki = new MediaWiki("runescape.wikia.com"); 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; wiki.login("HairyBot","cåm"); 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; boolean amazingPerson = wiki.getUserInformation("Hairr").hasRights("wikiastar"); 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; System.out.println("Hairr is" + amazingPerson ? "" : "n't" + " an amazing person"); 23:57 &lt;Hairr&gt; Proofie's MediaWiki.java is awesome~ 23:58 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Ach darn just found a new childhood ruining theory and Dog's nowhere to be seen 23:58 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; do you have a level 80 ranged weapon? 23:58 &lt;Cåm&gt; why does hasRights not automatically return a boolean? 23:58 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Nope. 23:58 &lt;Cåm&gt; or do you need to define what to expect with java? 23:58 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; So no bosses for me, I assme. 23:58 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; assume* 23:59 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; it would be difficult 23:59 &lt;Hairr&gt; You have to define the type for everything. Note how I defined: MediaWiki wiki; 23:59 &lt;Hairr&gt; MediaWiki wiki; 23:59 &lt;Hairr&gt; wiki = new MediaWiki; 23:59 &lt;Hairr&gt; this is the same as: 23:59 &lt;Hairr&gt; MediaWiki wiki = new MediaWiki; 23:59 &lt;Cåm&gt; I see 00:00 &lt;Cåm&gt; seems simple, nice and logical. 00:00 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; I'm just debating if I should sell the keystone or keep it. 00:00 &lt;Cåm&gt; what does wikiastar do anyway? 00:01 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Sell the keystone?? But how will you open up the tower to unlock the Sword of Hyrule needed to take down the Dread Lord Nimbassa? 00:01 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; you should sell it 00:02 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; even if you get a signet, which is a rare proposition at best, it'll be worthless until you get the other five signets as well 00:02 &lt;SacreDoom&gt; Slayer is quite decent profit at higher levels.. 00:02 &lt;Hairr&gt; cam: simple answer - free marketing 00:03 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; But if you don't stop Nimbassa he'll team up with Maestor Seymour and Avalon will fall! 00:04 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; spin time :P 00:05 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Hmm, should I take this small construction crate :P 00:05 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; or convert to 30k 00:06 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; and thats just spin 1 lol 00:06 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Meh, i took 00:07 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Usually they're worth more in contents than in conversion 00:07 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; true, lets hope its valuable now 00:08 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; 72 teak planks 00:08 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; Profit lol 00:09 -!- Dogfoger has joined Special:Chat 00:10 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; sold for 53l 00:10 &lt;Dogfoger&gt; Rune cane 00:10 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; 53k* 00:10 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Oh there you are 00:10 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; I have a special story for you Dog 00:11 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Hrm 00:11 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; I shall make a Grand Exchange simulator. 00:11 &lt;Hairr&gt; huh 00:12 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; huh 00:12 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; It's a known fact that Ash Ketchum died on New Island. But he didn't come back 00:12 &lt;Hairr&gt; can you elaborate, mr.cookmeplox 00:13 -!- Stinkowing has left Special:Chat. 00:13 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; Instead he got transported to limbo or purgatory or wherever it is and is stuck there until he becomes a Pokemon master, which he cannot do because he failed at it in life 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; I'm quite elaborate, yes 00:14 &lt;TonyBest100&gt; lol kane :P 00:15 &lt;Ciphrius Kane&gt; http://i.imgur.com/uWsc78o.jpg?1 Those eyes 00:15 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Hair, it's so you can see how a series of Grand Exchange offers would affect the availability and prices of items