RuneScape:Chat/Logs/10 February 2013

 23:35 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Ben nub 23:36 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Fail 23:36 &lt;Dtm142&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/index.php?title=200_million_experience&diff=7321934&oldid=7321906 23:37 &lt;Dtm142&gt; :@ 23:39 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Someone made me an evil wizard. 23:40 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; It says on the magic skill link on the vandal page made by mol man: Evil Wizards.. like Ocguy1492. 23:40 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Im not an evil wizard. 23:41 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Although I may or may not be a highly advanced, psychotic, evil, environment destroying woodcutter. 23:42 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Treehuggers, start hatin' 23:42 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; uh 23:43 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; when did binding shot deal damage AND stun? 23:43 &lt;Jr Mime&gt; Since they want! :O 23:43 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Can f2pers use spintowin lamps on p2p skills? 23:44 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; no 23:45 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; You mean AdvantageAtAPrice lamps? 23:45 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Yes lol 23:45 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; On the wheel of RWT? 23:45 &lt;Dtm142&gt; (H) 23:48 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; For a fact, I am a warrior/mage. 23:48 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Not an evil wizard of death, doom, badgery destiny, and destruction. 23:48 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; everyone is a warrior/.mage 23:48 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; now that air spells are free 23:48 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I waited til I had a decent runecrafting level, though. 23:49 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Make it all, make it all yourself. 23:49 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Not phr33 23:49 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I mine the essence. I make the runes. 23:49 &lt;Dtm142&gt; You need air r00nz 23:49 &lt;Dtm142&gt; opportunity costs 23:49 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; air staff 23:49 &lt;Dtm142&gt; and value of your assets 23:49 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Don't those suck post-eoc? 23:50 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I have high enough a runecrafting level to get 185 runes for 28 pure esscence. 23:50 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; it's a turd weapon but you're doing 800+ with air surge 23:50 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; so doesnt matter 23:50 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Ahh 23:50 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Noted 23:50 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Which is worth more? 23:51 &lt;Dtm142&gt; 185 air runes 23:51 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Or 28 pure essence? 23:51 &lt;Dtm142&gt; pure essence 23:51 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; (qc) The Exchange price of 28x pure essence is 2,016 coins (72 coins each). 23:51 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; (qc) The Exchange price of 185x air rune is 1,665 coins (9 coins each). 23:51 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; you could use rune essence from f2p 23:52 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; (qc) The Exchange price of 28x rune essence is 896 coins (32 coins each). 23:52 &lt;Dtm142&gt; ^ 23:52 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Using pure essence for low level runes is irrational 23:53 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; make an e joke or no? 23:53 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; nah 23:54 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I still mine all my esscence, so it does not affect me. 23:55 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I wonder how they get all the armor from the artisian workshop to Keldagrim... 23:55 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Teleporter? 23:56 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; by carts most likely 23:56 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Remember that they never really finished those tunnels? 23:57 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; they got there in the first place with all that metal to build the shop somehow 23:57 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; e is a dumb number k 23:57 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; root of 6 is best number 23:58 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; also, I memorized every digit to the square root of 4 23:58 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Yunoleik e? 23:58 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; nah, e is very cool number 23:58 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Minecarts 23:58 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; has applications in runescape 23:58 &lt;Dtm142&gt; (H) 23:58 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; 2 applications technically 23:58 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; one at the end of each syllable 23:58 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; shaddap 23:58 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; it does 23:59 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I wonder what the most worthless item in RuneScape is... 23:59 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; my joke was better 23:59 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; a single coin. 23:59 &lt;Dtm142&gt; 23:59 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; I know! A rock. 23:59 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; a single coin is worth 1gp 23:59 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; how many successful hits does it take to kill a monster with 10000 lp if your max hit is 10000? 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; what about a replenishing item that cannot be traded or alched? 00:00 &lt;Dtm142&gt; ? 00:00 &lt;Ocguy1492&gt; Do you think it would make sense that, if you killed a dwarven ancestor, that they would leave the armor behind? 00:00 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Between 1 and 10000. 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; what's successful? 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; you mean hitting? 00:00 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; whoops, on average 00:00 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; cause you can hit 0 technically 00:01 &lt;Dtm142&gt; (H) 00:01 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; you can't hit 0 00:01 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; or are we not getting into that 00:01 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; I mean you actually can't anymore 00:01 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; there's miss, hit, and hit 0 00:01 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; you can't? 00:01 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; no. 00:01 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; what do multiattacking abilities count as? 00:01 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; is flurry 1 successful hit? or more than 1? 00:02 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; ignore abilities 00:03 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; does anyone remember any kind of normal bloodveld dropping the gold ring? 00:03 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; no 00:03 &lt;Dtm142&gt; What's the frequency of each hit? 00:04 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Are all of them equally likely? 00:04 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; does gwd bloodveld drop it? 00:04 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Like, P(1) = P(2) = P(3) .... = P(9999) = P(10000)? 00:04 &lt;Dtm142&gt; (H) 00:04 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Like, a regular gold ring? 00:05 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; all equally likely 00:05 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; oh, fuck it. it's e. 00:05 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; e hits. 00:05 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; yes 00:05 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; are you sure it's e? 00:06 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; the bloodveld drop table says it drops gold rings 00:06 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; and not some number infinitely close to e? 00:06 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; well, I used 10,000 as a stand-in for infinity 00:06 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; like 2.8, that's pretty close to e 00:06 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; it tends toward e at infinite values 00:07 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; wai? 00:07 -!- Ocguy1492 has left Special:Chat. 00:08 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Hang on 00:08 &lt;Dtm142&gt; *Does some calculations* 00:08 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; it's a discrete version of a more general selection problem, Mol 00:10 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; more specifically, the number of hits is (m+1)^(m-1)/m^(m-1) where m is max hit and hitpoints 00:10 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; and that converges to e 00:10 &lt;Dtm142&gt; I disagree cook. 00:10 &lt;Dtm142&gt; 10000 is your max hit. 00:11 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; you don't always hit it 00:11 &lt;Dtm142&gt; So the expected value is (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5.... + 10000)/10000 00:11 &lt;Dtm142&gt; He said successful hits. 00:11 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; No, because of overkill loss 00:11 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; Cook obviously has some fancy, behind the scenes numbers and formulas 00:11 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Overkill loss? 00:11 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; That's the naive way of looking at it 00:11 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Dtm, if you hit 10000 even when your opponent only has 100 lp remaining, it only gets hit 100 00:11 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Riight 00:12 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; what? 00:12 &lt;Dtm142&gt; So not all hits are equally likely when they have low hp. 00:12 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; I thought it would respawn and be hit 9900 D: 00:12 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; so it turns out that when you add up all the possible values through a recurrence, it ends up being approximately e hits 00:13 &lt;Dtm142&gt; Only when their remaining lp exceeds or matches your max hit are all hits equally likely. 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; yeah. 00:13 &lt;Habblet&gt; http://i.imgur.com/2VYgx.png 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; put it this way...there is only one way to 1-hit the opponent 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; which is if you hit 10000 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; there are a number of ways to 2-hit, but there are also many many ways to 3-hit, 4-hit, etc 00:13 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; so the average has to be greater than two by that reasoning as well 00:15 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; the oily number strikes again 00:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; hey cook, you lyke i? 00:16 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; i suck 00:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; Agreed 00:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; you lyke complex numbers? 00:16 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; ofcourse 00:16 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:The_Mol_Man/i 00:17 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; ^.^ 00:17 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; we can do cosine stuff on mediawiki? 00:17 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; um 00:17 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; ya... 00:18 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; we can do sin cos tan and their arcs 00:19 &lt;Battleben&gt; Bye. 00:19 -!- Battleben has left Special:Chat. 00:24 &lt;Coelacanth0794&gt; http://i.imgur.com/WXgi6CZ.jpg 00:24 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Mol 00:24 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; ? 00:25 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; Hi 00:25 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; D: 00:27 &lt;Jr Mime&gt; Mol 00:27 &lt;The Mol Man&gt; no 00:27 &lt;Jr Mime&gt; Yes 00:28 -!- Sonicfan1185 has joined Special:Chat 00:29 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; hey guys, I was wondering, how do you repair weapons in Runescape now? (I have an adamant scimitar) 00:29 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; it doesn't need to be repaired. 00:29 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; oh 00:29 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; well what is the bar over it 00:29 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; ? 00:30 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; the bar over it? 00:30 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; oh, what's your attack level? 00:30 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; 48 00:30 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; never mind. 00:30 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; are you unable to use it? 00:30 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; i can use it, well nvm 00:30 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; i have a better way to put it 00:31 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; on the attacks that you can equip to your combat bar, what does the icon with the sword and a number below it mean? 00:32 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; uhh... 00:32 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; you don't know what i mean? 00:33 &lt;Sonicfan1185&gt; on the attacks that you can equip to your combat bar, under requirements their is sometimes an icon with a sword on it with a number under it. what does that mean? 00:34 &lt;Cook Me Plox&gt; oh, that's the attack level you need to use the ability? I think?