Talk:Nomad's Requiem

Fire surge
Is it possible to cast fire surge on the barrels? If so, please correct and make it clearer what runes are needed for the quest. Thanks Why?! 10:12, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reward
The quest page on the Runescape website stated those. I believe Jagex has not changed the text yet... --King x treme 15:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, reward leak was intentional, as by Mod Post. --King x treme 15:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone else think the reward isn't that great? 70 zeal points is nothing compared to the 450k experience of Blood Runs Deep, and the cape is good, but not amazing. Dsctatom 19:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Based on the fact that most people who have completed this quest are Combat 100+, I would think that the 70 Zeals would give 500k+ xp... --Gerbung 14:17, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Just 100+? I think 99.9%, if not 100%, of the people who managed to beat him are at least level 119+, I'm level 118, with 74 summoning, 71 prayer, 87 defence, and 89 hp, and I just can't defeat him, and as of now I'm having problems to adquire more supplies, after getting defeated by him 2 times. 15:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Stat boosts
Are stat boosts possible to meet the requirements?

--Penko 15:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

No. I've tryied magic potion + braindeath 'rum' + brown spicy stew to meet req for mining, hunter and magic butthat Imp doesn't let me start :/

-Nope just tried using mud bath. Sorry I tried editing and adding boosts cannot be used- it messed up the format tho soz. luckily somone already fixed it ^^ User Some Sanity

Fighting Nomad
Is it confirmed that we need to fight Nomad? --Darth Stefan (Talk) 16:00, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. It's just vandalism. 16:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good to hear --Darth Stefan (Talk) 16:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

sorry, yes it is confirmed, you do have to fight him

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===== -Think I can kill nomad? I'm 132 combat 99 str 96 att 88 def 88 summ 99 prayer (with curses) --Some sanity 23:03, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Protect
Can we semi protected the page? Chiro9
 * Yes, please. I think there are about 20 different I.P.s all trying to edit it, half of which are all vandalising. Semi-Protect, please? -- 16:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

VANDALISM!!!!!@!@!@!@!@@!@!!!@!@@!@!@!@!!@@!@!@!@!

No need for protection
Yarr this be a fine day to combat vandalism!

Meh. It happens every time there's a big update. 16:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * But normally it's one or two vandals, this time it's like 10 different ones. -- 16:15, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * :D :D :D :D 16:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

We do suffer a bit every time there is an update, but we have enough sysops on to block fast. I block for longer times when there is a bunch of vandals at once.--Degenret01 16:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

first device puzzle
(this is in the second room from the entrance room)

You only need the 3 cross shaped blocks in the middle column and the two ones with a vertical line with a shorter line in the middle, in the bottom corners to make it work.

All the blocks with a horizontal line from edge to edge are unneeded or red herrings.

(first room) In the top room of the second entrance from the hallway you can change the waterflow to go into the first or second room. Put it on the first room and go there. take out the guardians. take some elemental fuel from the edges of the room. If you place it on the floor, an elemental creature will come out to eat it. place a trail of food on the floor that lures it into the waterfall. it will die. do this 3 times and the machine stops working. --Iavirissa 16:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

"All too easy" references
Seriously, it is used in so many thousands of games, books, shows, cartoons, and movies that it is worthless as trivia. Please stop adding it.--Degenret01 17:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I so glad!
it freeking awesome! so cool!

Level 699 Nomad... Fake?
Level 699 seems like a rather high combat level for a quest monster (If you're meant to solo it) 17:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats his combat level when you first see him, though I haven't progressed far enough to see if thats his level when you fight him. Cheers, Penderwyll 17:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it even proven that you're going to / have to fight him? 17:55, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did enter the room and you need to fight him, he is 699, when you die you appear in the soul war lobby and you get a gravestone were you spawn at the end of a soul war game so IT IS SAFE. I did try it whit some junk on me and no armor/weapon and i did menage to do a 3-7-4 whit 88 attack, 87 strenght and it took him some time to kill me, about 9-10 attack and i have 85 defence so i think if you put effort you can kill it(familior might help but i didn't try and the barrow thing my be true because when you die your item are dropped on the ground were your gravestone his) --I3igi3ob 18:23, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Protection
I think this needs protection. I mean I've just deleted "Blue partyhat" from the rewards.It has over 30 edits in what,an hour? The lowest possible protect though. --Wingcap 17:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It happens every time a new quest is released. And as long as we have awesome people like you, reverting vandalism, protection shouldn't be necessary. 17:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Somebody just changed the page in something about earth. This page needs protection immediatly! -- 18:03, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I saw that,and I still agree. I want to revert it,but i'm sure there's a function for that,does anyone know what it is? --Wingcap 18:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

decaying avatar of creation
the enchanted ruby bolt special works on the avatar of creation.

I hit it for 163 :)

--Iavirissa 18:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you think there's a decaying avatar of destruction too? 18:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, obviously, thats in the next room. Only I havent gotten there yet:)

--Iavirissa 18:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know for a fact there is Avatar of Decay, haven't gotten to fighting Nomad, if you do. (Tubbytubby9 18:34, January 11, 2010 (UTC))

I'd like some additional evidence, but from my battle, the avatar only healed three times. The fourth time took long enough that there could have been a vine spring up, but none did. I think this might be an equalizing idea from Jagex, but without further evidence, I'm not sure. Cheers, and good luck. Penderwyll 18:59, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the second room would contain an avatar of destruction, but it has corrupted beasts. --Iavirissa 19:10, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I did a 197 hit on him =D 20:18, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was a bit confused about the vines as well. I think i fought this stupid thing like 5 - 7 times cause he kept getting vines, but i noticed that whenever i hit a high hit (with ruby e) and it skipped over that certain zone in which he would regularly be healing, he didnt. I think his health has to be somewhere close to the intervals in order for him to heal himself, might be a glitch, i dont know. My guess (which could very well be wrong) is that he heals at 75%, but in a similar fashion to how the ring of life works, if you knocked him from 80% to 70% and skipped over the margin in which he heals (which could be something like anywhere between 72% and 78%) then he would just keep on fighting. I'd like to find out what was going on here though, it was quite peculiar EmperorITNE 02:04, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism...!!
Hi,

We request semi protection, too much vandalism: last thing was someone replacing the whole article with the word p****.... I mean come on.

Jj (the) kul one Jjkul1

This is absolutely ridiculous; protection is needed. In the last 10 minutes it's been vandalized extremely badly three times. Yes, we can keep editing it back, but obviously the vandals can just keep doing what they are... --64.247.96.194 18:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Protection seems to be up and running. thank you runewikia! -- 18:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ehhh...The Talk page was protected,it's the actual article that needs semi-protection.--Wingcap! 18:38, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Edit: Now its done. --Wingcap! 18:41, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy
I am having moving the pillars to direct water flow- so far I've only got it in one channel- I don't really know what I'm doing, just randomly pushing around pillars- this quest guide doesn't really seem to help much in that respect. Help, pl0x? :) --Some sanity 22:59, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy for killing the bosses someone?? 18:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * D bolts (e) might work well against the avatar 18:47, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

ruby bolts (e) work against the avatar of creation. I am still looking for a strategy against the avatar of destruction and nomad.

--Iavirissa 19:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

are you sure that you have to fight the avatar of destruction? if you are, you should update the article's bosses list. -- 18:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

You don't have to fight the destruction avatar. Avatar of creation is an easy, but long fight. The best way to kill it is with ruby bolts (e). It's easy to safespot it. Killing Nomad looks to be the hardest fight in the game. I honestly don't think it can be done without overload potions. --Wowbagger421 19:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, there doesnt seem to be. the second room contains corrupted beasts. you need to collect 5 stone slabs to finish a path to get to the machine. cast fire wave at the explosive barrels. --Iavirissa 19:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Final Boss

 * I just beat nomad in a very odd way. I he was near death and killed me and my deflect melee prayer hit him for 7 and killed him. At least I think it was my deflect and not the tortoise. Either way, I think deflects still do help deal back damage, even if they don't reduce damage. Also, I was using leech prayers that I think helped lower his defence considerably. He is a tough fight, but possible without overloads or soul split (barely but possible!).Bio 21:01, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The "barrows armour will be destroyed"
Does this mean that it will actually disappear, or just that it will degrade to 0% as it does when you die normally? Davidyang201 21:03, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The latter, degrades to 0%. Stewbasic 22:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. :) Davidyang201 22:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Part Completion
Is it possible to partly complete the quest up to the door where you fight Nomad? So after you complete all the puzzles you can leave it like that and then come back later. -- 00:25, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes you can Damnads 00:27, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Music in Quest
This article still needs the music that is unlocked and where abouts, if anyone has completed the quest yet. Damnads 00:28, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nomad's Clones
During the phase where Nomad makes illusory copies of himself, all three "fake" Nomad's attack at the same time, with the real Nomad attacking after a slight delay. If you are paying attention and can react quickly enough, you only need to endure one salvo of "Clone Blasts".--ItsMrPants 03:20, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You Don't Need Maxed Stats
In response to the people who are claiming that you practically need max stats to defeat nomad, that is untrue. Anyone with good range, defense, hitpoints, & decent summoning can beat Nomad with a little $ & determination. I'm 120 combat with 85 range, 89 hp, 83 prayer, & 81 summ. I just ranged it ruby (e) and blk d'hide (snakeskin boots, fury, rune c'bow, spirit shield (basic), archer's helm, barrows gloves). I took 9 super restores, 19 sara brews + 18 brews in the familiar. I had leftovers. It took me 4 attempts, but this strategy worked well for me in the end. Just be sure to stand 1-2 spaces away & sip a sara brew, super restore, & range potion before you leave. I also used the curses leech defense & deflect magic. I cannot confirm how effective these are if they work at all on Nomad, but they seemed to make my 4th attempt a lot easier. This may just be b/c I was getting more used to him, but you can check into that more if you want to. Good luck, & give it at least 4-5 tries before you consider putting it off for later.

I used your strategy and got him:) it works. I have 85 att def str and range, 80 summ and pray and herb, and 90 hp. --Iavirissa 23:32, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Max Hp - 1
Anyone know if this is avoidable like the 75 Hp attack is?


 * I'm not sure, since I can't even start the quest yet... but reading through the article I get the impression that he freezes you and then, after a small delay, but before you can move, he does the "max hp -1" attack. So I don't think it is avoidable, but if you quickly eat during the freeze, you won't be killed by Nomad. And after the "max hp -1" attack Nomad will stop attacking you for a few seconds, giving you time to bring your health up again. So...


 * Nomad freezes you, at this point you should eat.
 * Nomad hits you with the "max hp -1" attack.
 * Nomad waits a few seconds, at this point you should eat again.
 * And then the fight continues.

Good luck fighting Nomad! --Runerune239 18:48, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You can range him during the few seconds that you are frozen. You basically get free hits as he is building up to the big hit and I didn't notice any attacks on me. So the fight doesn't really have to stop. I found the delay was plenty of time to get up to max hp to survive the big hit. I is just a way to burn up your food.

--Uffa 64 22:19, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is not avoidable 02:26, January 13, 2010 (UTC)



So the battle against Nomad is safe? That's just dumb. No challenge. If you die you can just go fight him over and over and over again. -- 09:15, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe but think about it if you try whit sarabrew and super restore if you die you will get back your equipment but the potion you will have used will have cost you a lot of money so you still think twice before going without the proper equipment. --I3igi3ob 09:21, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Also, for instance, I died before I could teleport out and lost all 18 items in my familiar. Big loss there. The fight is still a challenge. I'm having to face the fact that at combat level 111, I'm just not high enough and it's going to take me a long time to get there. So much for my Quest cape. I had just gotten it back, too. I know a lot of people my combat level or less who used to have it- I guess it's going to become a lot more scarce. 10:49, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I found it a challenge to get my timing down for when to drink what and when to run and such. Eight or nine deaths for me used up practically my entire stock of pots, and they aren't buying on the GE right now very easy. I came very close to saying hell with it. Glad I didn't though. And for some reason, on 2 of my deaths I didn't get my bolts back.--Degenret01 14:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe you used them all up and didn't notice? 18:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)