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Instructions
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Going through Category
Does anyone or any group of people want to go through this category, and make sure that all the references are valid? Instructions are on top of the page. 02:05, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I did 3 pages, then got bored. :D 06:22, June 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can this be used as a valid reference? It is used here.  03:01, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say no. There is no way to prove what he is saying is true. 03:07, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

High alchemy prices
hello,

atm im working on the high alchemy calculator now i have the question is it possible to automaticly pick this amount of money u get.

like the code for the G.E. price :

thnx C0ws


 * Lol at marking your own comment as unsigned (you can sign by using ~ ). Anyway, I don't think there is such a thing since every item requires filling in the alchemy values on their own page atm. It may be an idea for a project but I think it would be a lot more work to make than the use you'd get out of it, since alchemy values don't change and aside from those calculators and the item's own page I don't think they are used anywhere. 16:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * 222 marked it as unsigned. Anyway, for high alch you would use and for low alch it's  . -- 17:58, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why aren't we using those in infoboxes then? 18:28, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at the code in Template:Infobox Item I think it could be used in those boxes with a few simple changes, this would ensure that the GEMW includes alchemy prices, cause they will be fed from the infoboxes. However, any edit to the template requires consensus first on its talk page so I will raise the question there as well. 18:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything, it should be the other way around, to use the Exchange info in the infoboxes. There's already enough vandalism and cluelessness in the Main space articles. It's better not to have it propagate to the Exchange space. -- 18:50, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, your proposal would be better in the Yew Grove than on a talk page. -- 18:51, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I did mean the Exchange values would be included on the infoboxes, but the boxes have a link to the Exchange pages. Example, more people check Mithril dagger than Exchange:Mithril dagger. And I might start a Yew Grove page on it as well if the talk page remains silent, last time I started a YG thread though they said I should try the associated talk page first so I went with that. 19:20, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Avoiding wanted pages
Anyone know how to avoid a page from appearing on wanted pages when it does not exist using code similar to this:

If I were to remove Signatures/Tharkon then it would appear on the wanted pages, as can be seen here. 17:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, ifexist will treat it like a wanted page/red link IIRC. Makes sense, you want that page if it exists. 17:20, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * To solve this, use instead. It checks if the page exists only at the time of saving the page, preventing it to appear in the wanted pages (as the code after saving would not include #ifexist then). This is only for specific situations, so not for templates that need to check for this. Templates should either use  or just normal .  19:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Tharkon was interested more specifically what to do with users who sign their posts with signatures that never existed. If they don't have a signature page (because maybe they're clueless), they're even less likely to manually type in the subst expression. Unless there's a way to administratively edit their preferences to include the subst expression as their signature, I think the only thing to do is follow around after them and replace all their dead signatures with a simple user page reference like the default signature. -- 01:14, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...or tell them to change their prefs to include subst: in it 10:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I got sort of a portfolio page with signatures I made, and to keep track of if the user ended up using that signature. I thought would be enough to avoid wanted pages until I noticed one appearing on there a few days ago. wouldn't work in this case either. The problem is caused by signatures that were requested but never put in use. 20:05, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

A way to fix 'wikitable sortable' for what seems to be problem with negatives?
When sorting a table the has decimal values, for examples, these values I made up:

{-0.5, -0.8, -1.2, -1.3, -1.4, -2.1, -2.2} (which, if you've noticed, is already in the correct order)

Upon trying to sort this column, it will sort it like so:

{-0.8, -0.5, -1.4, -1.3, -1.2, -2.2, -2.1}

If this is a value like GP/XP, it translates to: base value - cheaper - pricier - cheaper - cheaper - pricier - cheaper || Which doesn't seem to be a logical way to sort a collumn like Gp/xp

Many examples of this can be found under a lot of the articles linked from Calculators

Is there a way the table can corretly sort these? Seems to only happen with negatives Godel 22:25, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * The calculator articles suffer from people wanting to use coin graphics (or comments) in the cell with the number, which confuses the sort. Creating a table that has only the numbers you list works for me. -- 23:29, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Positive values are still sorted right even with the coins image. But even without the decimal values, negative values are sorted in reverse order as if positive but always lower than all positive values. So -2, -5, -8, 0, 2, 5, 8. It seems the problem only occurs with negative values with coins images and only in the decimal part. They are sorted but according to some strange logic. The coins image would have been a good explanation if this caused the value to not be sorted at all, or to be sorted in the order of presentation. The decimal part is sorted correctly, while the non-decimal part is sorted in reverse as can be seen below.


 * 22:52, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, there we go. As you can see when the table is sorted, it's not sorted in the correct order in either direction. Mathmatically, the problem is that it's wanting to treat the negatives like positives even though they're not. Is the wikitable sortable something we have access to the sourcecode of to change, or more internal than that? And who can fix it if so? Godel 12:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added a few columns to illustrate my previous point. More explicitly stated, any time you add anything, as in anything at all, to a cell with a number in it, it is no longer treated as a number. The entire cell contents are treated as a string and sorted lexically rather than numerically. Try it with your favorite spreadsheet program. You'll get identical behavior. -- 16:58, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see, and lexically, - comes before any number. It does not explain why -0.8 comes before -0.5 though. Since even lexically those should be the other way around. Of course I tried it in a spreadsheet. And guess it differs, cause my spreadsheet program sorts - after numbers, but before letters. It also sorts 8 after 5 as any should. So sorting lexically would only cause negative numbers to be sorted in reverse, as if they were positive, yet still separately from actual positive numbers, and depending on the program either before or after positive numbers. This is not what the table shows when using negative non-integers. 07:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Using Coins before the number is included in the string. Compare the column that uses Coins and show a graphic with the one I created that just uses the hidden text and the number (Prepending sort key from Coins). You're assuming that Coins always prepends the same string. It doesn't. -- 08:26, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Aside of the -2.2 and -2.1 values all the images are identical as far as I can see. But if this is just how the sorting works, I vote for removing the images from calculators that benefit from correctly sorted values, or moving the image to the right, which would require an adjusted version of Coins either trough a separate page or by feeding it a parameter. Compare:


 * 14:42, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Get over how the images look. The column labeled "Prepending sort key from Coins" doesn't have any images, but it has the same sort order as the column that does. -- 18:32, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I don't really have any clue what Ntsh does. 11:49, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Coding Help
Hi, I've been working on an Excel sheet that, when given a starting level, calculates the magic and hp xp, charms needed and hours required of bursting or barraging lobs for either 88, 96 or 99 summoning. I want to put it into Java so it can be easily accessed without needing to download the spreadsheet. Could I either get some help in coding it or direction to a guide that can teach me how to code it. Thanks very much! -- 23:15, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

How does the rarity of item drops work?
Is there a total drop log that i can add to? Example: Vyrewatch corpse drop rarity. I have been buring for awhile, and wish to start a drop log. Can i add that to the wiki somehow? Any help would be nice.
 * We put drop logs on monster articles for items that that monster, as long with the rarity of that item being dropped by that monster, and the quantity of that item that that monster drops. We do have no "total drop logs" as such, but that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. There is a entry for the Vyre Corpse on the Vyrewatch article though. If you have any more questions you can put them here or on my talk page.  06:59, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * What I think God vivec1 meant is if the rarity on monster drops is calculated somehow, which it isn't, as shown in this example line from the Vyre corpse article: . As for starting a drop log, you can start one on a subpage of your userpage, like   or   if you intend to make a lot of them, with an index on  .  16:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The Compatability Between Monobook and My User Pages...
Andorin pointed out that my pages look absolutely ghastly on Monobook, and that they also take up too much space... [ Here's] a link of how my talk page appears on it. He suggested that I find a way to make it so it'll fit within the margins, and the problem I need solving is how to make it fit within the margins of Monobook and still make it appear the way it is on Oasis. Any help? 06:14, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed the sidebar, however you'll have to change the position of that banner. Sorry I didn't look at it sooner. Cheers, 19:08, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Making Calculators
Hey, i want to start trying to make calculators in excell then hopefully getting them onto here, but i have no clue how to get prices, so please could someone explain how to do it.

Thanks Sam
 * Use   to display the item's price (in this case 'Cake') like this ->   03:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but i take it that only works on RS wiki what about in excel? I tried using vlookup but it doesnt work on the rs website

Sam


 * If you're gonna end up putting them on here, why figure out how to make them in Excel? I don't think there is a way, the prices on the ge are in a database, so you'd need the login details for that database to get them. 18:36, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * very true but i don't have a clue how to make them on here :L any help?
 * Sam


 * I know there are many calculators in existence, I've never made one, but if I were to make one, I'd take a peek at those that went before me. Click calculators in advanced search. 22:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have a guide here, it should be at least a little help. Feel free to ask me about anything you don't understand. 22:13, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip and the guide reading it now :)

Move
Can someone move the following pages so they have a more descriptive title? The images are not linked to avoid red links.


 * 1) File:A Void Dance.png to File:A Void Dance reward scroll.png
 * 2) File:Aguildofourown.png to File:A Guild of Our Own reward scroll.png
 * 3) File:Allcompleted.png to File:All Fired Up reward scroll.png
 * 4) File:BetweenARockDone.png to File:Between a Rock... reward scroll.png
 * 5) File:Blackknightsfortressqc.png to File:Black Nights' Fortress reward scroll.png
 * 6) File:Court Cases EVIL DAVE vs The People Prosecution.png to File:EVIL DAVE vs The People Prosecution reward scroll.png
 * 7) File:ElemWkshp1.png to File:Elemental Workshop I reward scroll.png
 * 8) File:Ernest the chicken.png to File:Ernest the Chicken reward scroll.png
 * 9) File:Ew2 reward.png to File:Elemental Workshop II reward scroll.png
 * 10) File:FNSQR.PNG to File:Fur 'n' Seek reward scroll.png
 * 11) File:Gertrudes Cat quest.png to File:Gertrude's Cat reward scroll.png
 * 12) File:Ghosty.png to File:Ghost Ahoy reward scroll.png
 * 13) File:Glorious Memories miniq.png to File:Glorious Memories reward scroll.png
 * 14) File:Goblin Diplomacy.PNG to File:Goblin Diplomacy reward sroll.png
 * 15) File:Gunnarground.png to File:Gunnar's Ground reward scroll.png
 * 16) File:Inpyreneed.png to File:In Pyre Need reward scroll.png
 * 17) File:Lost her Marbles.png to File:Lost Her Marbles reward scroll.png
 * 18) File:Making historyHD.PNG to File:Making History reward scroll.png
 * 19) File:Merlin's Crystal.PNG to File:Merlin's Crystal reward scroll.png
 * 20) File:Mountaindaughter.png to File:Mountain Daughter reward scroll.png
 * 21) File:Mugger Court Case.png to File:Mugger vs Roger Murray reward scroll.png
 * 22) File:Questtzhaar.png to File:TokTz-Ket-Dill reward scroll.png
 * 23) File:Recruitmentdriveqc.png to File:Recruitment Drive reward scroll.png
 * 24) File:Rewardkhazardd.png to File:Fight Arena reward scroll.png
 * 25) File:Romeo & Juliet.png to File:Romeo & Juliet reward scroll.png
 * 26) File:SpiritofSummerQuest.png to File:Spirit of Summer reward scroll.png
 * 27) File:Tears of Guthix.png to File:Tears of Guthix reward scroll.png
 * 28) File:The Gravedigger vs The People Prosecution.png to File:The Gravedigger vs The People reward scroll.png
 * 29) File:The Sandwich Lady vs The People Prosecution.png to File:The Sandwich Lady vs The People Prosecution reward scroll.png
 * 30) File:Ups.PNG to File:Hunt for Red Raktuber reward scroll.png
 * 31) File:Vampire Slayer.png to File:Vampire Slayer reward scroll.png
 * 32) File:W01cif.png to File:The Temple at Senntisten reward scroll.png
 * 33) File:Zcreenshot107.png to File:The Curse of Arrav reward scroll.png

Thank you. Smithing (talk | contribs) 20:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is supposed to be a bot in the making that will move all file names to their appropriate names. 20:28, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Moved them all. This is indeed supposed to be done by a bot though, so if you could find someone to make that bot that'd be great. 20:42, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Filename Bot
I was under the impression that this thread passed on the notion that there was already a bot in-the-making. Unfortunately the person developing the bot has decided they don't want to any more. Therefore, we need someone else to develop this bot to follow through with the thread and get these file names fixed. Any takers? (: 20:53, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would if I had any idea how Wikibots work, but I have not. 18:01, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * User:KolakCC expressed interest in it a while ago, so I posted a notice on his page asking if he could do it. 20:13, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Use of a gallery on foreign images
Is there any kind of codable gallery I can use to bind around 350 foreign images from imageshack into a kind of slideshow gallery of any kind? (Not including the code) 21:28, July 19, 2011 (UTC)