Talk:Battle of Lumbridge

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The Portal is closed, the NPCs are gone. What happened? 187.101.126.114 00:14, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

I think it glitched following a system update. I can't imagine them making the npc's voiced no less and removing them after a few hours

Combatants
So we haven't had it confirmed that all the major groups supported by Emissaries (Zamorak, Saradomni, Amadyl, Bandos, the Godless, Zaros and Sliske) are going to be involved. It's probably a given that they will, since Jagex has been saying they're trying to add more choice and characterization opportunities into the game and this is the first major conflict of the 6th Age, but we don't know that for certain.

So which gods do you think will be involved in this?

I'd be willing to bet money on Saradomin at least, since Lumbridge seems to be one of his Strongholds. Other than that, if they aren't all involved I can't think of any other God who would be guaranteed to enter the conflict. The Godless have already said they're going to check the area out, so they probably will be involved in that case.

Also, which group will you be trying to support? I'm going with Zamorak, since I've been supporting him since I first learned about the Gods, and also because I kind of like his teachings. What're your reasons?

Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 15:53, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, it's Zamorak and Saradomin. Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 17:22, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Switching sides
Does anyone know what the exact effect is of switching sides? I believe you lose any Divine tears you have; and your renown will be reset as well. But what happens to any Sacred metal fragments you have, or the other items needed for the cosmetics? Will the rank of your token reset (even if you change back)? Will everything bought in the reward store remain or not? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:06, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

all amor and scroll purchase do remain, metal fragments you also keep on swap 24.109.45.205 01:44, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

League of Legends quotes
Has anybody noticed that the NPCs fighting for their respective god often quote champions from League of Legends? Such as the "My aim is true." quote of Ashe and "Feel my sting!" from Skarner. Xenin Lion (talk) 20:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems rather tenuous, more likely a coincidence than an intentional reference. 20:15, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

most of the quotes are meme and troll statements that are common on the official forums.--Heavyoak (talk) 22:30, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

falling rocks neutral event
falling rocks neutral event does allow you to exceed the 3000 daily tears up until it says you collect max tears, after which it will not allow you to harvest divine shards. but the divine shards will not count against your 3000 daily amount. 24.109.45.205 01:47, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * The only way in which a Divine shard does not count towards your daily limit of 3000, is as long as you don't deposit it. Thus at best you can reach 3030 Divine tears in one day, if you deposit your shard after you have capped. Once you deposit it, those 30 tears will be substracted from the number of available tears for that day. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:56, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Other Randoms
FYI, there are other randoms occuring on the battlefield. They may have started due to it being the second week. I've seen two different ones announced, but can't say for sure what the effects were.

-Zamorak's forces storm the field to steal resources from Saradomin (not sure the exact phrasing, but this was the general idea).

-Zamorak's sapper has joined the battle. (This is exact, and I saw a unit named 'Zamorakian Minelayer' spawn from the portal in the camp, which may or may not be related).

I'm not adding anything as i don't have exact info, but wanted to make sure it was known.

174.71.21.124 03:07, July 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Added for now. Can be modified later... 06:45, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Effects on prior content
Could we add a section detailing the prior content and where it was displaced to, or what has been removed?

For instance, there was a Tree Patch, which has been moved down by the Forge, but it took me a while to figure that out. There was also that ruins of a house that you use to get into the H.A.M. hideout during the quest, where did that go? I'm sure there is lots of other things that have been moved or erased. It would be helpful to have a list.

Jimthesoundman (talk) 14:18, July 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * It is located here, but it could be expanded to where they were moved to. 01:13, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Number of special troops that spawn at a time
I am trying to figure out what determines the number of special troops that spawn at once. I saw on this page that healers/medics supposedly spawn 2 at a time, but I watched at least a dozen saradomin field medics spawn simultaneously. I changed the description on the page to say "multiple" instead of "two", but I would like to know if there is a determinable range as to how many can spawn at once. Madcow988 (talk) 07:31, August 1, 2013 (UTC)]

Divine tears multiplier
To be frank, it might be better if we use a talk page for the divine tear multiplier table... At least we don't lose information (or can provide additional information we can't really on the article page itself), so we can properly determine the limits... I'm not sure what the best format for this information would be, so I'm starting verbose in plain-text: I'll post again tomorrow, hopefully keeping a closer eye on everything. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 16:00, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * P2P: at 2,667 tears collected I was at x2, while at 2,673 tears collected, I was down to x1.
 * On second thought, couldn't be bothered today. Got too annoyed at other people stealing kills :P . Besides, 't was for the best I didn't, at the end of the day my log was 5 off <.< ... Perhaps another day. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:25, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I was thinking about this as well... this is what I got:
 * P2P: 2,146 (at x3) -> 2,149 (at x2) 16:25, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * P2P: 2,506 (at x2) -> 2,507 (at x1) my numbers seem to be off by 167-170? 16:51, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd say, here we see the point of a talk page. Maybe these numbers are not 'exact' for everyone, every day. And if it's not simply random, perhaps it depends on one's total/combat level, or something else (how often they've capped before? Token level?). On the article itself, this is bound to result in some sort of (indirect; unintentional) edit war... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:31, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmm... must have started counting at 163.


 * P2P: 2,836 (at x1) -> 2,837 (at x0)


 * Adjusting for that error gives:


 * P2P: 1,259 (at x5) -> 1,264 (at x4)
 * P2P: 1,256 (at x5) -> 1,260 (at x4)
 * P2P: 1,888 (at x4) -> 1,891 (at x3)
 * P2P: 2,309 (at x3) -> 2,312 (at x2)
 * P2P: 2,669 (at x2) -> 2,670 (at x1)
 * P2P: 2,999 (at x1) -> 3,000 (at x0) 22:12, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * There are definitely decimal parts to the multipliers as well. 22:14, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Most likely true, but I doubt that matters much for most users; and I have no idea how to condense that information clearly in a table, assuming we can work out how fast the decimal decreases... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:55, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Updated. 13:04, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

This table ONLY contains information of both the upper bound of a multiplier and the lower bound of the following multiplier are CONFIRMED precisely!

Included the table above, and some data today: Filled in the table based on some data aggregated from me and Azliq7. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:33, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * P2P: 2307 at x3 still, and at x2 once I got to 2310
 * P2P: 2669 at x2 still, and at x1 once I got to 2671


 * P2P: 1,257 (at x5) -> 1,262 (at x4)
 * P2P: 1,887 (at x4) -> 1,891 (at x3)
 * 13:56, August 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * The Death of Chivalry update


 * I have already earned over 1700 tears today, yet I'm still at x5. Perhaps this was changed in the update?Sander Pie (talk) 17:05, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not for me, I noticed being at x4 as normal around 1270 tears collected. Maybe there is a difference/glitch regarding tears gathered before and after the update? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:12, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Most of these were collected after the update, I'd say at least 1600. But I might have glitched my account somehow, will keep you posted.Sander Pie (talk) 17:17, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Today I have already gotten 24 more tears than the 1320 I 'm supposed to be able to. Still at x1. If I manage to find out the new (or bugged) F2P limit I will let you know 177.33.169.211 17:43, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Did you get tears before the update? I'm starting to think, due to the changes in multiplier for f2p, etc, they might've possibly reset everyone's cap during the update, which'd explain how you'd get more tears today, and why your multiplier would get lower later on. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 18:18, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. I had no tears before the update. Actually I have not even played for the 24 hours before the update õ.O
 * Ohh and while I was typing here I just reached x0 !!! At a total of 1350 tears. Wait.. Has the divine shard never counted for the daily cap and I was not aware of it? If so, I'm really sorry for this topic... 177.33.169.211 19:41, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Me and another used have also experiences this, see Talk:Divine tears. Before today's update, divine shards that were deposited counted towards your cap. A shard in your inventory did not. I went past 3k tears today, without depositing a shard. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:49, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

I've found the F2P x4->x3 multipler values, but not the exact values. They are close to them. I'll keep a backup of my table in case someone deletes it without a brain. Now I'm sure the x4 -> x3 values are 211 and 212 or 213. The x4 value is not 210. A Player Moderator confirmed it for me. Later I'll check it out with a test character. Modified my backup table. Zieldak (talk) 10:26, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, someone being a player moderator or not has no influence on the accuracy of their statements. They are still simply players themselves. Looks like we finally have a complete table then. Odd that the x4 modifier is recuded that quickly for F2P, though. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 10:42, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I have now collected more than 3000 tears post-update, and am still at 5x. Definitely a bug, which I am happy to 'abuse'. Not like I can do much about it anyway. --Sander Pie (talk) 18:49, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * As for doing something about it, you could at least report it :P . Other than that, grind away. I wish my multiplier didn't drop, at least I could 'cap' on a weekday. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 19:01, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

My bug is still active today, a day after the update. I am reporting it now. Very odd.--178.84.217.244 11:28, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Siege?
What is up with the bit at the bottom about siege joining in week 4? That's not what the votes reflect.76.233.162.255 05:27, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a quote from the BTS video. They probably don't use the funds to make two versions of the same BTS, depending on the vote... Or they were just wrong. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:33, August 10, 2013 (UTC)