Talk:Distractions and Diversions/Locations

Unofficial clans
Since this information has been removed from the article, I've added it here for the benefit of new players:-


 * Penguin Hide and Seek - Clan chat: Penguin Find, Penguins w60, W60 Penguins
 * Shooting Star - Clan chat: Stars2hunt, Star Find, Hunt4stars


 * 13:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, there is only one major, active group left. Team Penguin.

Main chat: "Penguins_W60" If full, try the following chats in order: "W60_Penguins" "W60_Pengies" "W60overflow1"

Boomer12342 00:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

UPDATED TO 15 November In order...

World60pengs W60_PenguinS W60pengS W60_PengieS

Bowler225 23:53, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

UPDATED TO 9 March 2011, in order...


 * 1) world60pengs
 * 2) w60_penguins (scheduled to close on 22 Sept 2011)
 * 3) w60pengs
 * 4) w60pengu
 * 5) w60pengy (scheduled to open on 22 Sept 2011)

Updated to 22 September 2011, in order...

-- 22:03, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) world60pengs
 * 2) w60pengs
 * 3) w60pengu
 * 4) w60pengy

Star locations
Just started doing Shooting Star. The best forum article for locations i've seen so far is: COMPLETE Star Locations List http://forum.runescape.com/c=-13419f4e/forums.ws?75,76,722,57640317,goto,1 Chrislee33 09:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

D&D Locations - Shooting Star
We don't have to follow the names of the regions word-by-word. I only added "Kingdom" for style. 08:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The shorter name is what players use. I'm playing it daily and active in the Star Find clan. Everyone goes by the names used by the telescope or other shorter nicknames which have not been included in the articles such as p/g/t or m/m. Also the main article links also do not include 'Kingdom of xxx' in the main article titles, although they do refer the 'Kingdom' in the lead articles.  Chrislee33 15:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Revert War
I don't want this to keep going on. I understand that the Style Guide says to avoid using links in headings, but it makes sense to do so here. Also, telescope information should not be on the locations page. 01:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why does it make sense to add it here? 16:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Circus / Penguins
Penguins hve 2 new clues other 8 are sames as week 8 forgot to sign sorry --phamtom21 14:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Circus hasnt been reset as of yet
 * Penguins (and circus) reset at around 17 pm today Therealmagicrune 18:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Unofficial Clan Information
I am slightly upset that someone removed the information about the unofficial clan for penguins. This information is extremely useful to a player wishing to find the penguins. I am not advertising a clan-I simply want the information to be available to all. I will not get involved in the Star Find discussion, but I would suggest that info about it be added also. There is no reasone to remove it -I know its bad wording - But make it better. Removing something new put the article back in time, its not helping it to become any better. This is why I put it back in. Please think before deleting! Thank you, Invincibility |Talk|  |Edit Count|  00:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The information is available in the talk page (see above). Adding the information about the clan seem to favour only one clan, and there are many clans out there.  13:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

circus location image?
why was the circus location image was deleted from here? 03:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Restored. 14:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Star Locations?
I think the star locations should be put into the Shooting stars article instead of this one because the wiki does not track the star locations. It remains constant, while the rest of this page changes from week to week. Luckytoilet 14:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Penguin #9 - which graveyard?
I went to both graveyards in the non-deep Wildy and couldn't find any penguins. The article ought to be more specific about which graveyard so I can try again on a different world. GoldFalcon 21:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you were in world 60? Location is only in world 60. If its in other worlds, the penguins would most likely be somewhere else. 09:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Penguin Locations Videos
Just realized I could embed YouTube videos on here late last week, so I started embedding my weekly Penguin Locations videos. So far they haven't been removed, so I'm hoping this is OK to do. Plus, I tend to get the videos finished quicker than player's update the table lol The videos have helped hundreds of people, and since I started embedding them, the impact on how many people actually watch it on here is a lot more than noticeable. I'm interested in all feedback about the video, and if it's negative, I just ask that you make it constructive. Boomer12342 20:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok. The video has been up for TWO weeks, and now players are starting to delete them off of the page. They aren't admins or anything. SHOW me a link to the page saying that Youtube videos can't be embedded on pages. No one else should delete unless they are an admin or show me proof it isn't allowed. '''JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THE GROUP NAMED IN THE VIDEO, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD DELETE IT! IGNORE IT IF IT'S REALLY BOTHERING YOU. I AM THE ONLY PERSON CREATING WEEKLY UP-TO-DATE PENGUIN LOCATIONS VIDEOS, SO START MAKING YOUR OWN IN YOUR OWN STYLE THAT IS GROUP-AD FREE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.''' Boomer12342 21:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If no reason is given for any deletion, it is acceptable to revert the deletion. Otherwise, discussion about it should appear here until consensus is reached. This seems like a valuable addition to the page. Chrislee33 04:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The first removal was from the IP, 216.136.67.166. His exact excuse is: " no yt vids, wtf". The second user had no listed reason. (EDIT: Forgot to sign yesterday >.<) Boomer12342 17:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Go check the yew grove, could be in the last archive, discussion about videos. We do not allow names of players in images, and a video naming a clan is advertising the clan. If the community agrees to leave it after discussion, ok great. But as it stands now it violates what we agreed on.--Degenret01 22:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, this video discussion is what I based removing the vid on. We can have a constructive talk here though, the YG is too laggy for most people. Comment away people --Degenret01 23:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, technically Team Penguin isn't a 'clan'. Its a group dedicated to helping players find penguins faster, easier, and make it more fun. These videos have helped hundreds, if not a thousand or more, players find penguins. For the most part, no one has seemed to disagree with it being here, other than those that support other penguin hunting chats. The video has very minimal advertising, as its main affect is to help players. The video pertains directly to the point of the section of the article, so it isn't spamming the article or anything. Personally, if players dislike the group mentioned, then they don't have to watch it.

Also, if you don't believe me on players finding it useful, just look at the comments for the current and past videos:

"nice job, rune wiki for the win lol."

"The music is so nice :) very helpful vid thanks! "

"yay =D ty =D i just found out you made these :D you know they upload your movies on the wikipedia for these to? :) "

"nice vid bro, 5/5"

"thanks for vid! "

"tysm! this really helps me...i subscribed so i know their locations when i need them!"

"i need the lunar pingu, but I dont have the crafting lvl, thx for the video it really helps "

"Gj Boomer! You help a lot by making Penguins videos!"

"Ill be doing pengs soon :) "

"THX i'll have to subscribe to this channel "

"if possible please add: recommended use of transport eg teles, spirit tree etc because i new to members lol btw great guide and nice music, where'd u get it?"

"Useful vid, Great Minigame, Wonderful clan chat!

I recommand it to everyone. And I love this song:D"

"Thanks for the vid. "

"nice "

"Great vid and appreciate the time you put into making them."

"Nice vid 5/5"

"extremely great, i had 1 small idea, at the end, or the beginning, place all locations at once, like "the peguins are here, here, and here, so they get a rough idea where they are at beforehand, or they are short on time to watch this"

"nice bro thanks:P "

"its insane this vid only has 44 views it is a huge help thanks a lot this is a 5 star vid "

"what this needs is some sort of dummies tutorial on what this is, other than that its pretty freakin great, 5 stars "

"gj boomer "

"A fantastic video - nice effects etc guys. I may have to get involved in this :P "

"Nice one Boomer!!!"

I believe the crowd has already spoken. I have not once received a bad comment about the video, only suggestions on how to improve and what people thought about it. Boomer12342 23:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Please, note what I do, and what I do not, say. I never said it is not useful. And I have asked for input from the community. --Degenret01 00:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm well aware of what you did or did not say. I was stating my opinion (and opinions of others) for all to see. Boomer12342 00:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I found it extremely helpful. For someone who is new to penguin hunting, I didn't know exactly how it worked.  The video showed the areas visually, which wouldn't be able to be represented just by describing (in text) the location.  I suppose the only stipulation would be that it would have to be updated weekly.  If Boomer is willing to take on that responsibility, then there's no reason it shouldn't be there. Combat newb 18:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * This is the tenth week I've made it. I've always released them between 12:00 AM GMT Wednesday to 12:00 AM GMT Thursday. I believe I've only ever made one major mistake of where a penguin was located on Neitiznot one week. So.... *shrugs* Boomer12342 20:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Just found out today that Team Penguin is the ONLY major penguin group left. I believe there is only one other penguin group that is still active atm, and it was just created a day or two ago. From watching various Penguin groups for the past 6 months, it's my experience that they never last for more than two weeks or so. So, I'm not quite sure something like this has happened before, so maybe there should discussions about limited advertisement for 'one of a kind groups' is allowed or not? Boomer12342 23:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC) (The IP that wrote this was me, it signed me out and I didn't notice it :S)


 * No one's contesting that you make the videos, nor that they're useful, nor that Team Penguin is the only group remaining. Our image and media policy is being reviewed, and has gained (or is very close to) consensus. One of the points on it is "Streaming videos (e.g., YouTube embeddings) should not be used in articles.". If this goes though, the video(s) will be removed from the page and will not be reinstated unless community consensus agreeds to ignore all rules. You should post on thet forum if you wish to contest that point. (Also, you should add a link to your user page to your signature, per RS:SIG). 20:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I contest their utility. They just highlight a geographic location for the penguins. We can do the same thing with words or a picture of our own. The image policy passed and videos like that are forbidden in articles. The amount of people who say they like it in the comment page or subscribe to you are irrelevant here. If you wish to contest this, either start a Yew Grove thread or attempt to get a consensus here (although I suggest the former). 01:14, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Deleted a star landing spot
I just deleted this Kandarin spot from the list of star landing sites. I obviously cannot back it up with anything else than (tons of) experience, but I am confident that spot is false. It's probably a rumour from the early days of star hunting, when people speculated on where they would land. The rest seems accurate. My own guide to the stars is here: http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?98,99,573,58500309 --Paania 11:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Battlefield north of Tree Gnome Village.


 * I thought there was a landing spot at the Ardy Monastery, which is near the battlefield and is indeed north of the village? Or is that already listed on there? Boomer12342 15:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just looked, it's listed :S Boomer12342 15:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Evil tree locations
I think it would be better if we listed evil tree locations by hint not by location.

Specific penguin locations
Recently I've seen a lot of edits where (usually unregistered) users add precise locations of each of the penguins (example: "Jatizso, Jats king home, also found in building with anvil"). Adding such things is pointless, as the penguins can move and if they do, they do so very rapidly. Sure, some penguins are stuck on an island or area - detail down to the precise house is useless, as the penguins are trapped in a small area (so aren't hard to find), and they do move. And of course - these precise descriptions only hold true for world 60, the unofficial penguin hunting world. I propose that edits of this type not be allowed, as they serve a redundant purpose. A note should be added somewhere to notify editors of this page to not add detailed descriptions. 20:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think both are equally importnnt, one is what the sole source says, as you'd find in game if you did this yourself, and the other is giving as much help as possible, which includes suggesting one world to use. I'll leave it till we decide what to do, but I suggest having Charlie's notes here and a link to a subpage which gets updated per w60 movements. 12:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Something new?
It's Week 58 (30 Sep 2009 - 6 Oct 2009) and there are two penguins near the Tower of Life on World 60. One's disguised as a crate west/north-west of the tower; the other's disguised as a rock west/south-west of the tower. Neither location is what is listed for the article, and I've never seen two penguins so close together before. 71.184.10.246 00:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * The article only list the spawn points of the penguins - where they originate from, not where they are now (as they can be in different places in each world, but spawn in the same place each world, so its easier to reference them by that). The crate is evidently the Piscatoris one (as its the only crate this week), and the rock could be any of the rocks from this week except Tirannwn. And I've seen 5 penguins in Yanille north wall before  15:16, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

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dont know weather this is the right place but i tried to make an edit and messed it up i was trying to put toad stool in place of create but i messed it up

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dont know weather this is the right place but i tried to make an edit and messed it up i was trying to put toad stool in place of create but i messed it up
 * Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes. And also, the Mort Myre penguin is a toadstool, not the Canifis. 11:16, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

There is no Varrock penguin
The weekly list is incorrect. Please check penguin v61 (distractions and diversions section of runescape forum) for correct locations.

--Iavirissa 13:07, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * fixed. Armcie

Penguin
Hey, I was doing Wolf Whistle yesterday when I noticed a penguin walking around as a bush at White Wolf Mountain at the entrance to Taverly. I don't know if this is signifigant, but you guys can add it if you want. --

D&D Locations Familiarisation
New Location on World 100 @ around 10an est today Hint: I spoke to a tree within sight of people crossing a log. Location: Tree Gnome Stronghold next to Spirit tree near agility training grounds. Map pic:

Some 1 please update page, I am begining to think jagex will be using every oblisk there is 4 this d&d though and this list will be

way too long to post in the current format.BLaNk 3gE 17:12, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Confirmation date
Is it really necessary to list the confirmation dates for all of the penguins? They're all the same, simply the day the new penguins were released. And this date can be found in other places on the page. eclipse4227 21:50, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was on the table when the page was originally made, and before I started editing it weekly. It is there so players know when the table was last updated, and not everyone knows what day penguins reset, or to check the history. Back before I started updating it weekly, sometimes penguins from multiple weeks would be listed, as people didn't know all the locations ahead of time like I do, or not everyone was willing to edit, so the date helped people know how old or current the penguin was. I personally see no harm in having it there now, but I don't think it'd be changing much if it was removed either. It just takes me a minute to update all the dates in the code anyway =P Boomer12342 03:00, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Big Top Location
if the Big top location is predictable as noted, then the locations should be numberd according to first twelve weeks AND there should be a way to code a template that will automatically change the current location so manual update will not be necessary and such an automatic update could announce the hours and minutes before the next change and identify what the next location willl be

"Currently at Lumbridge for the next 79 hours 43 minutes, it will change to Varrock East at that time"

Qazwiz 07:17, June 2, 2010 (UTC) (prettier of course)


 * The update is automatic, we just haven't bothered with a timer. Partially because (just partially mind you) there is occasionally a delay of up to an hour or so, so the timer would be incorrect for that bit of time.--Degenret01 07:22, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Penguin "Highlighter" Function broken?
The table with penguin locations used to highlight when you clicked the cells, allowing you to mark off penguins as you did them. While simple, this was very handy and it was very noticable to me when it didn't work for the last 2 weeks. I passed it off at first, thinking it would probably get fixed soon, but it hasn't yet, and is sorely missed. I am skilled with JS and would gladly help, but have no clue how this was implimented, and the usage of JS on the wiki is something that always confused me. 01:14, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's implemented with CSS id penglocations. However, it works-for-me using both wikia and monobook skins. -- 20:25, November 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see it's working again... Possibly someone updated it quietly? 02:06, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the js of everything has been a little buggy as of late. 02:25, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Broke image links
Why do images of penguin locations of past weeks get removed. They will be used again eventually, and are extremely useful for preparing for a new penguin week.

--Tharkon 00:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * All the images are at Category:Penguin Hide and Seek maps. 00:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Split into subpages
Because the full D&DL page was rather brutal on those of us with slow connections, I have split the D&DL page into subpages, each of which is transcluded onto the original so you all get to keep your full page. There is also a lighter version of the page which contains only links to each subpage, in the event that you don't want to load the whole thing. Additionally, all D&D-specific redirects, such as PHASL, now point to the subpages. -- 08:46, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Spliting the article into subpages lead the "marking locations" feature of PHASL broken, can someone fix it? Richard ba 21:17, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears to work if the subpage is transcluded to the main page, but not if the subpage is viewed on its own. -- 01:00, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The error is in MediaWiki:Common.js. It needs an admin to fix it. I'll make a request. -- 01:06, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Request
Can you be more specific about the penguin locations in Dorgesh-Kaan? Like, for example, are they located in the main square, or in the higher levels? A map like the others would be nice, although I am sure you are already working on one. Thanks.

-(X)- Soren -(X) (Talk) - 20:57, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * There will be a map of the spawn point soon for Dorgesh-Kaan and Keldagrim (the other one without a map yet). Jagex introduced a few new locations on 1 February. If you need help finding a particular penguin, I can recommend the Team Penguin chats (World60pengs, etc.) and forum threads in Distractions and Diversions (Penguin Locators by Canada Grrl). -- 04:04, February 19, 2011 (UTC)