Talk:RuneScape Wiki/Archive 4

Alternate main pages
I made some alternate views of the main page. They're pretty much taken from Wikipedia's alternate main pages. I might do some more. Also, nice job on the April Fool's look.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 16:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

i think that the user of the month part should be where the recent updates is. can i change it? JalYt-Ket-Gambler 10  Talk  Contrib 22:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

No, wait, I cahnged my mind, I like Richard's second version of the main page better. Anyone think we shouldn't? JalYt-Ket-Gambler 10   Talk  Contrib 11:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

K, I'll change it. JalYt-Ket-Gambler 10  Talk  Contrib 14:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

No, wait, that one seems too short. All I think we should do is move the user of the month up a little. Someone else change it? JalYt-Ket-Gambler 10  Talk  Contrib 14:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Dark RS Wiki
Should we really be linking to/affiliated with it? 24.66.94.144 20:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, we should because the founder of DRSW (Dark RuneScape Wiki) is an editor here, both wikis are about RuneScape, and many of our contributors edit there also. I guess you could say they're sister wikis. ^^ 21:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * i find it rather strange to link to that wiki. if they cover the same subject, one would expect the content to be in a single wiki. if the content of the other wiki is not suitable for this wiki, why link to it? --Miw 19:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really hurt to link to it initially, the guy is just trying to get it off the ground. However, if it looks like it's going nowhere in a month or so I'll remove the link to it. --Eucarya Talk 08:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It needs to be taken off. Have you looked at the site?  It's got all sorts of ads for RuneScape gold and stat changers, as well as all the scamming advice it has, regardless of the fact that it says it is to help people avoid scams.  It doesn't matter that an editor here edits there also, it shouldn't be linked to our site, certainly not as a "sister" site.  So unless it changes and gets rid of some of it's content, do we want to affiliate ourselves with a site like it?   17:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Tirrian, I've seen free gold and stat enhanchment advertisments on this wiki. The two wiki's are now truely siblings. M Majora6606 W Chaos
 * We had Angela get rid of them (and replace most of them with visual image ads apparently). If you're still seeing them then you need to let Angela know which ads (with the URL and the ad title). Oddlyoko talk 00:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oddlyoko, I'm trying to report the sites to Angela, but I get an error message whenever i click that link. P.S. Odd's my favorite charecter. <font color="RED">M <font color="BLACK">Majora6606 <font color="RED">W <font color="BLACK">Chaos
 * Sorry, try w:User talk:Angela. (I also fixed the link above too) Oddlyoko talk 02:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at this. Look at that.  53% of voters come there to learn how to scam.  Does that not speak for itself? Dtm142 16:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

where are the forums
where have the links gone?!?
 * See Index on the side? That's them. Going there is the same as having them visible on the sidebar, just you have to click 1 more time.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 12:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Language links
Should be in the actual foreign language, yer know


 * Traditional Chinese = 中文
 * Bulgarian = Български
 * Dutch = Nederlands
 * Finnish = Suomi
 * French = Français
 * Lithuanian = Lietuvių
 * Polish = Polski
 * Portugeuse = Português
 * Spanish = Español

I'm also looking into the way that the main wikia does this (a panel at the bottom of the left navigation). I'll change this unless I get major protests from others now! --Eucarya Talk 09:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

If you don't have chinese support, some of those words above might show up as ???, don't worry about it.

Hmm, I still think we should have language links at the top as well? --Eucarya Talk 10:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I think I might add a search box on the main page too up the top, on low resolutions the search box on the navigation pane is getting pushed below the scroll bar. --Eucarya Talk 12:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you do, just keep that "cool" image I made, with the Blood Rune and then Search in metallic letters. 14:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Popular categories
Is that Popular categories thing really needed? I never use it. 18:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neether do I, but people that come here to get information use it. 13:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
I think we should have a section on the mainpage that tells us what users and admins. are logged on to the wiki at the time.
 * That would be nice, but a lot of admins (and regular editors) stay logged in at all times. 20:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

So whats wrong with that? Its still a good idea.
 * Can't be done on a wiki. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  21:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Like Vimescarrot said, it cannot currently be done. I said I'd like to see this on Wikia:Forum:What new features would you like to see on Wikia?, and Sparkla responded by saying:

"This is an oft-requested one, but how would one determine the state of being online? Many people do not log out, and their session doesn't expire until they close their browser (or for several months if they use 'remember me'). It would have to be based on their last access to a page on that wiki, but that would have to break caching and possibly violate the privacy of some people (as wiki viewing is often seen as passive). So, therefor it would probably be based on last POST request, but most of these (except for some special page queries) can be seen on Special:Recentchanges."--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 23:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Main page layout
There have been a load of changes to the front page. Some of them i liked, others i found rather silly. The latest bunch of changes make navigation extremely weird. When i refer my in-game friends to the wiki, their feedback is that the site makes it very hard to find information. Would it be possible to be a bit more conservative in changing the entire layout? My gripes on the current layour style: --Miw 11:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * the layout looks strange on a fairly modest sized window. It should look good on a window size suitable for playing RS.
 * the navigational items are hard to find and they are only available on the main page.
 * The article of the month is way to prominent. Image size with the item is way to large. Resizing is not that hard.
 * The experimental search boxes are in the key area of the page yet the function is pretty unclear. No explanation available for this feature.
 * the extra column for wiki news does not work.
 * the recent news gets quite lengthy, consider auto generating this part (use date of the news, current date and number of news messages).
 * The welcome banner should be more concise.
 * The forums take quite a bit of real estate in the left pane at the eexpense of the common wiki search panel. I think that the search box deserves a more prominent position (but keep it wiki style, not the weird new one).
 * The change procedure for main page might be a bit more formal.


 * I agree, it looks just wrong in low resolutions (800x600).
 * The search box just needs to be Search: Entry box: Go, it really shouldn't be any more complex than that, and it needs to take up less space.
 * Where's the right pane gone? I think we need links to at least two things prominently - quests and treasure trails guide - these two things are the PRIMARY reason that people use fan sites, so links to them should be featured prominently.  --Eucarya Talk 12:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks like a revert occurred. Can we start a discussion page on the front page layout? There is a substantial discussion on AOTM and UOTM, so a front page change should get similar attention. I like some of the ideas posted by Richard above. I also would like to see the forums below the search in the left column. --Miw 19:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * yes, I moved it back. It didn't work in 800x600.

Yes the main page doesn't look great at the moment, but it's how shall we say, "functional" - it does the job, and things aren't too hard to find. Any new design must incorporate an obvious link to quests and treasure trails guide because these two things are the main reason why people use fan sites. Don't lose sight of our target audience!! What I would love to do is do it properly with css/skins, provide a basic design layout, but don't really control where it all goes - you can do things like news... and then do things in your stylesheet like #news { position:relative; visibility:hidden; }. This then allows you to use stylesheets to control how the front page looks. --Eucarya Talk 08:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a nice challenge. I'll have a go at it. --Miw 10:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I left something in my sandbox that makes the poll section invisible under the default monobook.css. You can view a page with a different stylesheet by appending &useskin=cologneblue for example main page with cologne blue stylesheet --Eucarya Talk 10:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

featured article
I just looked and it's been vandalised --- fix it?

Reverted Edits to this page
Damn you Stinko. I reverted it and guess what the recent changes says? It says you reverted it. You bugger *shakes fist* 14:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Picture
Could someone put up a new picture or fix the current one? It would be greatly appreciated. Moogel 00:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What picture? =| Oddlyoko talk 00:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. I don't have a good image editor, sorry... Oddlyoko talk 00:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article
I think the Featured Article should be protected for the month. 23:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with this page?
The wiki logo is off the edge of the screen and the font on the side bar is tiny in my browser? Its just when I look at Talk:Main Page. Anyone else having this problem? --Wowbagger421 00:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I cant believe this...
This design is the absolutely WORST wiki design I ever saw. 3/4 of my screen is now full with useless junk instead of actual wiki contents. Sorry, but I'm not coming back till you revert or at least give users option to see "old" skin. EugenyG 20:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a little confusing, what's wrong with it? It seems to work well for a lot of us, sorry pal.   20:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And, considering this page is your ONLY contribution, I don't see how you can care that much, or how you know what the old one looked like. <Font face=Sylfaen><font color=RoyalBlue>Christine <Font face=Sylfaen><font color=LimeGreen>Talk 21:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I agrre with the guy at the top., although I'll still be doing a bit of work in the meantime.

is there anyway we can chance the color of the front page its just white?.......

Random Rune or Random Skill?
What do people think look better?

Or...

<Poll> Which main page looks better? The one with the random runes. The one with the random skill. </Poll>

Thoughts? Also, does anyone know if it's possible to make it so they don't show the same skill/rune twice? 01:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe every month we could alternate the item that is randomized. Maybe next months melee weapons, ranged the month after that, random armour the next month, then back to runes then skills? Or maybe it could alternate every week in a 4-category loop or something. 17:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be possible to avoid (most) duplicates if all the icons were displayed in the same template call instead of four separate calls. Skill 01:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Protection
I can't edit any of the templates that are included on this page, because apparently it's been cascading full protected somehow. Can still edit this page itself, though. Skill 08:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed the cascading, but the pages were all set to semi-protection =/ not sure why you couldn't edit them. Ah well, go ahead and try it again. 12:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can edit them again now. Skill 20:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I found that it's a bug with cascading protection. See this.  It's a confirmed bug. Dtm142 18:48, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming footer
I went ahead and added a Wikia Gaming footer to the bottom of the Main Page. We're trying to get Wikia's gaming wikis more linked with each other. It's not mandatory, so you can remove it if you really hate it, but it would be appreciated if you didn't :). You can change the links to point to any other wikia wikis you like or cooperate with. Ausir 04:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Every wiki is a "sister site"?
Why is there now a link to the list of wikia? Most wiki aren't sister wikis to RuneScape Wiki. Most even have nothing to do with computors, not to mention the internet. 22:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * How about now? I changed it to Wikia's gaming hub. Ausir 02:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I like that better. 02:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems more appropriate. 05:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

?
I don't realy know but ain't Falador on the featured article have a linked to the article? Chasngcars 23:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

New Design for 4/1/08?
Since we had a "Bob the Jagex Cat" theme for April Fool's day this year, what will we have for next year? I've been working on a design in my sandbox, and came up with:

How long have you been playing RunEscape? Since 1992 Since 1993 Since 1994 Since 1995 Since 1996 Since 1997 Since 1998 Since 1999 Since 2000 Since 2001 Since 2002 Since 2003 Since 2004 Since 2005 Since 2006 Since 2007

RunEscape is copyright 1992 to 2007 Chiartfurteend Ltd. The RunEscape Wiki is in no way affiliated with Chiarfurteend Ltd.

%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 %D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 Hoofdpagina Etusivu Accueil Prad%C5%BEia Strona_g%C5%82%C3%B3wna P%C3%A1gina_principal Portada

Which would turn out to be,

How long have you been playing RunEscape? Since 1992 Since 1993 Since 1994 Since 1995 Since 1996 Since 1997 Since 1998 Since 1999 Since 2000 Since 2001 Since 2002 Since 2003 Since 2004 Since 2005 Since 2006 Since 2007

RunEscape is copyright 1992 to 2007 Chiartfurteend Ltd. The RunEscape Wiki is in no way affiliated with Chiarfurteend Ltd.

%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 %D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 Hoofdpagina Etusivu Accueil Prad%C5%BEia Strona_g%C5%82%C3%B3wna P%C3%A1gina_principal Portada

Perhaps everyone who wants to can submit a version, and we could vote on who's will be the April Fool's Day Main Page. 17:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)