Talk:Nomad's Requiem

How To Defeat Nomad Easy
I found this video while i was looking on youtube, the person showing it is a well know player, he even find it hard!-> hai im a nooby to this editing, but is the kyatt thing a glitch? I killed easy with it noahboah234

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Fire surge
Is it possible to cast fire surge on the barrels? If so, please correct and make it clearer what runes are needed for the quest. Thanks Why?! 10:12, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reward
The quest page on the Runescape website stated those. I believe Jagex has not changed the text yet... --King x treme 15:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, reward leak was intentional, as by Mod Post. --King x treme 15:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone else think the reward isn't that great? 70 zeal points is nothing compared to the 450k experience of Blood Runs Deep, and the cape is good, but not amazing. Dsctatom 19:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Based on the fact that most people who have completed this quest are Combat 100+, I would think that the 70 Zeals would give 500k+ xp... --Gerbung 14:17, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Just 100+? I think 99.9%, if not 100%, of the people who managed to beat him are at least level 119+, I'm level 118, with 74 summoning, 71 prayer, 87 defence, and 89 hp, and I just can't defeat him, and as of now I'm having problems to adquire more supplies, after getting defeated by him 2 times. 15:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Update: Same skills and 9(or 10, lost the count) deaths up to now. I'm in the verge of giving up . 18:54, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I did this Quest at Level 109 with 69 Summoning. Details of my method are at QFC:90-91-536-59980616 RS forums. 02:39, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Brux, it is easy if you use ruby bolts, remembering to remove when he does his max-1 and range potting. Just keep trying, I am level 118 with 84 summ 78 pray and 88 hp with 89 ranging and after 5 deaths I ended up besting him. It usually the litte mistakes like missclicks onto mines and ruby bolts of max hp-1 that make you fail. I had 5 friends under level 110 with range level under 80 beat him. Idk how they did it but they have quest cape back etc now, s it is reasonable to say that. Just don't try to melee him. If you do, however use zammy spear, not a godsword.

Stat boosts
Are stat boosts possible to meet the requirements?

--Penko 15:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

No. I've tryied magic potion + braindeath 'rum' + brown spicy stew to meet req for mining, hunter and magic butthat Imp doesn't let me start :/

-Nope just tried using mud bath. Sorry I tried editing and adding boosts cannot be used- it messed up the format tho soz. luckily somone already fixed it ^^ User Some Sanity

Fighting Nomad
Is it confirmed that we need to fight Nomad? --Darth Stefan (Talk) 16:00, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. It's just vandalism. 16:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good to hear --Darth Stefan (Talk) 16:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

sorry, yes it is confirmed, you do have to fight him

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===== -Think I can kill nomad? I'm 132 combat 99 str 96 att 88 def 88 summ 99 prayer (with curses) --Some sanity 23:03, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I did it at 109CB QFC: 90-91-536-59980616 page 55. 02:39, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Protect
Can we semi protected the page? Chiro9
 * Yes, please. I think there are about 20 different I.P.s all trying to edit it, half of which are all vandalising. Semi-Protect, please? -- 16:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

VANDALISM!!!!!@!@!@!@!@@!@!!!@!@@!@!@!@!!@@!@!@!@!

No need for protection
Yarr this be a fine day to combat vandalism!

Meh. It happens every time there's a big update. 16:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * But normally it's one or two vandals, this time it's like 10 different ones. -- 16:15, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * :D :D :D :D 16:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

We do suffer a bit every time there is an update, but we have enough sysops on to block fast. I block for longer times when there is a bunch of vandals at once.--Degenret01 16:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

first device puzzle
(this is in the second room from the entrance room)

You only need the 3 cross shaped blocks in the middle column and the two ones with a vertical line with a shorter line in the middle, in the bottom corners to make it work.

All the blocks with a horizontal line from edge to edge are unneeded or red herrings.

(first room) In the top room of the second entrance from the hallway you can change the waterflow to go into the first or second room. Put it on the first room and go there. take out the guardians. take some elemental fuel from the edges of the room. If you place it on the floor, an elemental creature will come out to eat it. place a trail of food on the floor that lures it into the waterfall. it will die. do this 3 times and the machine stops working. --Iavirissa 16:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

"All too easy" references
Seriously, it is used in so many thousands of games, books, shows, cartoons, and movies that it is worthless as trivia. Please stop adding it.--Degenret01 17:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Maybe in all of these other media its all star wars references?

I so glad!
it freeking awesome! so cool!

Level 699 Nomad... Fake?
Level 699 seems like a rather high combat level for a quest monster (If you're meant to solo it) 17:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats his combat level when you first see him, though I haven't progressed far enough to see if thats his level when you fight him. Cheers, Penderwyll 17:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it even proven that you're going to / have to fight him? 17:55, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did enter the room and you need to fight him, he is 699, when you die you appear in the soul war lobby and you get a gravestone were you spawn at the end of a soul war game so IT IS SAFE. I did try it whit some junk on me and no armor/weapon and i did menage to do a 3-7-4 whit 88 attack, 87 strenght and it took him some time to kill me, about 9-10 attack and i have 85 defence so i think if you put effort you can kill it(familior might help but i didn't try and the barrow thing my be true because when you die your item are dropped on the ground were your gravestone his) --I3igi3ob 18:23, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Protection
I think this needs protection. I mean I've just deleted "Blue partyhat" from the rewards.It has over 30 edits in what,an hour? The lowest possible protect though. --Wingcap 17:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It happens every time a new quest is released. And as long as we have awesome people like you, reverting vandalism, protection shouldn't be necessary. 17:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Somebody just changed the page in something about earth. This page needs protection immediatly! -- 18:03, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I saw that,and I still agree. I want to revert it,but i'm sure there's a function for that,does anyone know what it is? --Wingcap 18:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

decaying avatar of creation
the enchanted ruby bolt special works on the avatar of creation.

I hit it for 163 :)

--Iavirissa 18:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you think there's a decaying avatar of destruction too? 18:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, obviously, thats in the next room. Only I havent gotten there yet:)

--Iavirissa 18:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know for a fact there is Avatar of Decay, haven't gotten to fighting Nomad, if you do. (Tubbytubby9 18:34, January 11, 2010 (UTC))

I'd like some additional evidence, but from my battle, the avatar only healed three times. The fourth time took long enough that there could have been a vine spring up, but none did. I think this might be an equalizing idea from Jagex, but without further evidence, I'm not sure. Cheers, and good luck. Penderwyll 18:59, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the second room would contain an avatar of destruction, but it has corrupted beasts. --Iavirissa 19:10, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I did a 197 hit on him =D 20:18, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was a bit confused about the vines as well. I think i fought this stupid thing like 5 - 7 times cause he kept getting vines, but i noticed that whenever i hit a high hit (with ruby e) and it skipped over that certain zone in which he would regularly be healing, he didnt. I think his health has to be somewhere close to the intervals in order for him to heal himself, might be a glitch, i dont know. My guess (which could very well be wrong) is that he heals at 75%, but in a similar fashion to how the ring of life works, if you knocked him from 80% to 70% and skipped over the margin in which he heals (which could be something like anywhere between 72% and 78%) then he would just keep on fighting. I'd like to find out what was going on here though, it was quite peculiar EmperorITNE 02:04, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism...!!
Hi,

We request semi protection, too much vandalism: last thing was someone replacing the whole article with the word p****.... I mean come on.

Jj (the) kul one Jjkul1

This is absolutely ridiculous; protection is needed. In the last 10 minutes it's been vandalized extremely badly three times. Yes, we can keep editing it back, but obviously the vandals can just keep doing what they are... --64.247.96.194 18:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Protection seems to be up and running. thank you runewikia! -- 18:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ehhh...The Talk page was protected,it's the actual article that needs semi-protection.--Wingcap! 18:38, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Edit: Now its done. --Wingcap! 18:41, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy
I am having moving the pillars to direct water flow- so far I've only got it in one channel- I don't really know what I'm doing, just randomly pushing around pillars- this quest guide doesn't really seem to help much in that respect. Help, pl0x? :) --Some sanity 22:59, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy for killing the bosses someone?? 18:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * D bolts (e) might work well against the avatar 18:47, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

ruby bolts (e) work against the avatar of creation. I am still looking for a strategy against the avatar of destruction and nomad.

--Iavirissa 19:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

are you sure that you have to fight the avatar of destruction? if you are, you should update the article's bosses list. -- 18:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

You don't have to fight the destruction avatar. Avatar of creation is an easy, but long fight. The best way to kill it is with ruby bolts (e). It's easy to safespot it. Killing Nomad looks to be the hardest fight in the game. I honestly don't think it can be done without overload potions. --Wowbagger421 19:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, there doesnt seem to be. the second room contains corrupted beasts. you need to collect 5 stone slabs to finish a path to get to the machine. cast fire wave at the explosive barrels. --Iavirissa 19:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Final Boss

 * I just beat nomad in a very odd way. I he was near death and killed me and my deflect melee prayer hit him for 7 and killed him. At least I think it was my deflect and not the tortoise. Either way, I think deflects still do help deal back damage, even if they don't reduce damage. Also, I was using leech prayers that I think helped lower his defence considerably. He is a tough fight, but possible without overloads or soul split (barely but possible!).Bio 21:01, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The "barrows armour will be destroyed"
Does this mean that it will actually disappear, or just that it will degrade to 0% as it does when you die normally? Davidyang201 21:03, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The latter, degrades to 0%. Stewbasic 22:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. :) Davidyang201 22:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Part Completion
Is it possible to partly complete the quest up to the door where you fight Nomad? So after you complete all the puzzles you can leave it like that and then come back later. -- 00:25, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes you can Damnads 00:27, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Music in Quest
This article still needs the music that is unlocked and where abouts, if anyone has completed the quest yet. Damnads 00:28, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nomad's Clones
During the phase where Nomad makes illusory copies of himself, all three "fake" Nomad's attack at the same time, with the real Nomad attacking after a slight delay. If you are paying attention and can react quickly enough, you only need to endure one salvo of "Clone Blasts".--ItsMrPants 03:20, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

[In other words, the REAL Nomad attacks dead last.] ~XxChRiSxX

You Don't Need Maxed Stats
In response to the people who are claiming that you practically need max stats to defeat nomad, that is untrue. Anyone with good range, defense, hitpoints, & decent summoning can beat Nomad with a little $ & determination. I'm 120 combat with 85 range, 89 hp, 83 prayer, & 81 summ. I just ranged it ruby (e) and blk d'hide (snakeskin boots, fury, rune c'bow, spirit shield (basic), archer's helm, barrows gloves). I took 9 super restores, 19 sara brews + 18 brews in the familiar. I had leftovers. It took me 4 attempts, but this strategy worked well for me in the end. Just be sure to stand 1-2 spaces away & sip a sara brew, super restore, & range potion before you leave. I also used the curses leech defense & deflect magic. I cannot confirm how effective these are if they work at all on Nomad, but they seemed to make my 4th attempt a lot easier. This may just be b/c I was getting more used to him, but you can check into that more if you want to. Good luck, & give it at least 4-5 tries before you consider putting it off for later.

I used your strategy and got him:) it works. I have 85 att def str and range, 80 summ and pray and herb, and 90 hp. --Iavirissa 23:32, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I did with, 76Att, 85Str, 77Def, 81Range, 83Mage, 83Hp, 71Prayer, 81Herb, 69Sum Cb=109. Method was with Sara Brews/Super Restores see RSfourms QFC:90-91-536-59980616 page 55

Max Hp - 1
Anyone know if this is avoidable like the 75 Hp attack is?


 * I'm not sure, since I can't even start the quest yet... but reading through the article I get the impression that he freezes you and then, after a small delay, but before you can move, he does the "max hp -1" attack. So I don't think it is avoidable, but if you quickly eat during the freeze, you won't be killed by Nomad. And after the "max hp -1" attack Nomad will stop attacking you for a few seconds, giving you time to bring your health up again. So...


 * Nomad freezes you, at this point you should eat.
 * Nomad hits you with the "max hp -1" attack.
 * Nomad waits a few seconds, at this point you should eat again.
 * And then the fight continues.

Good luck fighting Nomad! --Runerune239 18:48, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You can range him during the few seconds that you are frozen. You basically get free hits as he is building up to the big hit and I didn't notice any attacks on me. So the fight doesn't really have to stop. I found the delay was plenty of time to get up to max hp to survive the big hit. I is just a way to burn up your food.

--Uffa 64 22:19, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is not avoidable 02:26, January 13, 2010 (UTC)



So the battle against Nomad is safe? That's just dumb. No challenge. If you die you can just go fight him over and over and over again. -- 09:15, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe but think about it if you try whit sarabrew and super restore if you die you will get back your equipment but the potion you will have used will have cost you a lot of money so you still think twice before going without the proper equipment. --I3igi3ob 09:21, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Also, for instance, I died before I could teleport out and lost all 18 items in my familiar. Big loss there. The fight is still a challenge. I'm having to face the fact that at combat level 111, I'm just not high enough and it's going to take me a long time to get there. So much for my Quest cape. I had just gotten it back, too. I know a lot of people my combat level or less who used to have it- I guess it's going to become a lot more scarce. 10:49, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I found it a challenge to get my timing down for when to drink what and when to run and such. Eight or nine deaths for me used up practically my entire stock of pots, and they aren't buying on the GE right now very easy. I came very close to saying hell with it. Glad I didn't though. And for some reason, on 2 of my deaths I didn't get my bolts back.--Degenret01 14:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe you used them all up and didn't notice? 18:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Avoidable... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma9_5ItUrLE

Jason!

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Just wanted to say one thing about the max - 1 attack...

I found this out on one of my many failing trip (took me 13 attempts in total) but if you are, for example, 20 hp at the moment Nomad uses this attack (after he freezes, charges) and the blast is actually IN AIR and you THEN eat, the special attack will hit 20 hitpoints damage, not max - 1. I was 87hp when I did it, I'm not maxed out in the slightest. This method of course requires a lot of precision and timing so I don't think it can be accurately used, but at least there is a way to surpress the hit...

Oh and one other thing, Nomad shouts Pathetic when he thinks he's killed you but you eat just in time... well yeah he'll shout this if you manage to use this "trick".

Lastly, the fight is pretty safe. You will always lose items like penance armour and accumulator and barrows will degrade so don't use them.. And when you get an accumulator back, make sure you get an accumulator, not an attractor, i've been seeing lots of 120-130s with attractors lately

Now I'm kind of new to this whole wiki thing so here comes the signature... Kong No Foo 17:09, January 28, 2010 (UTC) � Hope that worked.

Spam
people are spamming this article again.. article was jsut deleted and replaced with a random pic -.- Some sanity 04:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Prayer requirement
It says in the list of requirements that 70 prayer is optional and is not required to do the quest. Is this true or not? (It would help me quite a bit!) 12:34, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 70 is required, fixed now. Sorry and thanks.--Degenret01 12:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, shame for me but thanks for clearing it up 13:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby bolts (e) maximum hit on Nomad?
Anyone know what the max hits of Ruby bolts (e) are on Nomad? I hear that it can do the full 20% on the Decaying avatar (200 hp) but I was wondering if Nomad was a special case like the Corporeal Beast. 21:54, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 75. 21:58, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Melee?
Does anyone have a general idea of the recommended stats for beating Nomad using melee? I've heard that it's recommended to have all combat skills around 85 but I'm also hearing that Nomad is so much easier to beat using ranged and ruby bolts (e). I'd still prefer to try with melee and I'd like to know if it really can be done with all melee stats at 85. Honestly I'd prefer to train all my melee stats to 99 than train my ranged to 85 so ranged is preferably out of the question. 71.153.40.161 16:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

lol nice vid he preety good and damn that part if tuff
 * I'm 99 all melee stats and failed 4 times to kill nomad. I did it easily using ranged on my first try using a combination of ruby and diamond (e) bolts. I was 86 ranging. -- 22:02, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well that was exactly what I didn't want to hear (being the person who posted above without remembering to log in), but thanks for the answer... I guess ranged training it is. :/ 17:06, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

He's still crazy hard with range, but I beat him with 85 range and 74 defence, so it is probably a lot easier. Oh, and try using the ancient curses. Long Live Armadyl   17:33, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is it worth using Onyx Bolts (e) on Nomad?
I've been saving up onyx bolt tips from Tzhaar kills (pre-drop table alteration, of course) and have 118 of the enchanted bolts now. Their effect as listed on their page here is:

Now I don't much care about overkill, wasting resources or other such financial matters. I have them for special occasions and I am thinking that this might be such a time. My main concern is how often and how damaging the special is. I'd probably be using them in conjunction with Ruby Bolts (e) in the parts of the battle where high amounts of damage are raining in (The ice blasts and the HP-1 blast, and of course the final berserk phase) where it is more important to gain life rather than lose it to deal more damage as per the effect of Ruby Bolts (e). Anyone have any experience with using these bolts? 18:07, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
Does the trivia section really need to include

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 * If your internet connection is sometimes unreliable, do not fight Nomad at those times. You can lose millions of coins worth of equipment if you cannot log in soon enough after your die.
 * If your internet connection is sometimes very laggy, do not fight Nomad at those times. You cannot react fast enough. For example, if you right-click to attack Nomad but he moves before you can attack because of lag, you might move onto a mine and kill yourself.

It doesn't seem like trivia information to me and it seems like it would be more appropriate under the strategy section, where they sort of say the same thing anyway. 14:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

agreed 20:07, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Kyatt
Someone added something about using a Kyatt into the guide. Could someone elaborate on what this is, or is there a video? Is this a glitch? Cook Me Plox 19:05, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

yes- go to youtube and punch in "nomad kyatt". should be in the first 3 videos. iv tried it, and it didnt work, though several people in the youtube comments say it worked for them, so im not sure. 3rd age farcaster 19:10, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Tragically, (and before i got to use it), it was patched. Taeryth 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tragically? It was good that Jagex patched it. Obviously it wasn't intended for Nomad to be vulnerable to such a method.  23:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

What was your first clue jackass? The fact he's lv699 and heals once to half hp, then going into berserker mode, or the fact he can hit dead-on 75's and hp minus1 maxes? - Taeryth

And yes, I'm pissed off. I had been looking forward to a quest cape since before christmas, possibly as far back as before november Only to be completely overshadowed, and shattered by some half-assed louts who threw a quest together overnight to please combat-biased players. Taeryth 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

I've never PKed nor fought a boss monster, yet I defeated Nomad. It's mainly luck. And he only heals once. 23:58, January 28, 2010 (UTC)== I'm not leaning towards accuracy when i'm not in a good mood. Most other people arent either. Taeryth 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not just pure luck... there's actually a bit of strategy involved. I hope you know that you can hide from his 75 damage attack and his illusion attack (the latter during which you'll have approximately 45 seconds to heal, pot up, and take a couple of deep breaths if necessary). 00:13, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I do. But that's not much help when I can't buy saradomin brews and my rocktails disapear like water through a plug hole. I don't care if I'm not making the effort here. The quest development team seemed to have thrown this crap together overnight, if they didnt bother even adding a storyline or slightly larger explaination as to what the hell is going on, I can't be bothered making the effort to finish it when I probably never will.-tries to see if he has an account, and if not, makes one- Taeryth 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

...Admittedly, it does seem as if Jagex created an overpowered boss for this quest and slapped on the title of Grandmaster solely because of the boss fight. The rewards were mediocre compared to While Guthix Sleeps, and the storyline was next to nonexistent. 00:26, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly my point. My reward is the quest cape, not the quest rewards itself. The prizes seem pretty sweet, and probably are pretty useful. But not when perspectified with the loss in gaining them. The storyline -was- next to nonexistent, which another of my complaints. With permission I'd post a tinyurl to my own little "question" to jagex, but I'll decide not to chance it for now. Taeryth 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the welcome, though I've no idea how to directly reply other than this. Taeryth 00:34, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

i agree with taeryth. i tried it less then 4 hours after the first youtube video was uploaded, it did not work then. i have since beat the quest with brews that came in after 2 days. as for the quest, yea i agree. wgs was literally years in the making, had a better reward, better story, better extras (tds, dpl8, dclaws), and was actually fun. i could have written nomads quest in what? a half hour? but this is not really the place for discussing this, so good luck with your quest, taeyth. 03:50, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Melee Armour
I'm not sure if this would work or not, and since I've compelted the quest already I cant try it out.

But I was thinking since the final part, with fast melee is pure melee, it might be worth taking at least say a heavy melee body such as say a bandos chestplate to help prevent some of the damage