RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Template:Vote

Template:Vote
This template was created, to the best of my knowledge, without formal discussion, and is an overall unnecessary change to the way the wiki works. I believe it's human common sense to say "...don't fix what's not broken".


 * Delete - As nominator. 00:23, November 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - I don't think there's any need to delete it, although I don't think it's something we should use. 00:27, November 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. I personally hate that template; it adds further visual clutter to a discussion. We have enough of that with some of the signatures out there. At any rate, I don't want it advertised in any way as what should be used. 00:28, November 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * - If the preview is right it's gonna move it under bullet points, not something we need 00:31, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Regardless of whether or not the issue's been sorted, I still want it gone. 16:56, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

It could make certain long discussions more easily skimmed for approval/disapproval with the icons. Perhaps a formal discussion is warranted, not an RFD. (On the topic, I'm using the template to test it, and it doesn't seem to work well with the * unordered list prefix. Formatting issue?) 00:35, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * (weak) overall. The point of a template is that it can be edited to remove the icon, if wanted. However, I am aware that Sigma imported Template:Vote to the RuneScape Wiki without consensus.
 * That's half of the reason I want it gone. It could promote such skimming, which is never something that an admin or crat should be doing when closing a discussion. 00:43, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * As can the Support and Oppose, now it just has a picture. 00:47, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Any sensible bureaucrat or administrator wouldn't skim a discussion, whether there are icons or not. Σ (talk) 02:17, November 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * - User:Suppa chuppa fixed the formatting on the template. 00:40, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * - It's not required to be used, just like how everyone doesn't just say support, oppose, strong support, strong oppose, etc. 00:47, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * - I see no reason why a discussion was necessary to create the template. Nobody is being forced to use it. Whether the community decides to use it or not, is their decision. For instance, the whole "!vote" thing on Wikipedia. wikipedia:User:Deathphoenix said "I'm going to call it a !vote", and other editors copied that. If you don't want to include a reason in your "bolded comment", then don't. Nobody's going to stop you from letting your opinion be weighed lightly, and whether you or support it won't make a difference. Σ (talk) 02:17, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not a big fan of this. If this is not deleted, then it should absolutely never be used in a serious discussion. When these icons along with the regular support, oppose, whatever are used at the same time, the discussion looks absolutely terrible. It would be best to have uniformity in a discussion, and I can't see us forcing users to use these templates. Honestly, it makes it look pretty cluttered, like ajr said, and I don't want it to even look like we encourage the use of such templates. 02:27, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't see how it makes the page cluttered. Are we looking at different discussions? 02:57, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - The images just increase load time and are distracting, especially when not everyone uses them in discussions. It's just a waste of space. Smithing (talk | contribs) 02:45, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * The same thing could be said about colourful signatures, yet we still have those, despite the fact that the signatures all use screenshots of non-free media, turning every discussion page into a copyright violation. Σ (talk) 03:08, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? No one's signature on this entire page violates a copyright. 76.31.28.85 03:51, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that Jagex did not release all those inventory icons under a Creative Commons license. Σ (talk) 03:53, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, hence the recognized fansite status and all our attributes... 76.31.28.85 03:57, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per all 17:23, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - This cannot be used in conjunction with the regular position words (just bolding a word) as it looks completely horrible. I'm looking at this discussion and it just sucks. Furthermore, the fact that the template is called "vote" and used in a serious discussion gives the wrong impression. 18:22, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * The argument of inconsistency will be rendered moot when or if using the template becomes the norm. Squashing an addition solely for its differences reeks of bureaucracy.
 * For the second part of your argument, just hit Special:MovePage and solve it. Σ (talk) 01:38, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would never use it and it seems that over half the people here wouldn't use it either. The bigger issue that I have with the "when or if this becomes the norm" statement is that this template has absolutely no business becoming the "norm" on the wiki. We have a perfectly functional system as is, and there is no need to "fix" something that isn't broken, let alone break something that isn't broken, which is what this template is doing. 01:41, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Keep - I don't see what harm it causes. The only reason for deleting it seems to be "It looks horrible". That's quite subjective. 19:09, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * My opening statement clearly said that it was created without discussion and/or proposal, and that it is also unnecessary, like many of the "things which don't hurt". 21:22, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Incorrect, Chess. That isn't the only reason for deleting it, and you misstated the "looks horrible" reason. The argument is that the templated supports/opposes when used in conjunction with regular supports/opposes is severely inconsistent and quite bad-looking. I would be fine with letting this stay if everyone promised to never use it, but obviously people are using it (half of the people who said keep are doing so, I see), and the inconsistencies generated are the main issue. 00:32, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...including colourful signatures. Σ (talk) 01:38, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * EXCUSE ME [[File:Bronze medium helmet.png]] IIII I I I Talk  sign my guestbook  [[File:Bronze Dagger.PNG]]
 * While I did laugh a lot at your signature, it's not really the one you usually use... :P I like how you're one of the rare users who has a greyscale signature. Also, no I will not sign your guestbook, since it's Special:Random. 02:09, November 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I don't need a symbol to represent what i just wrote. 01:24, November 15, 2011 (UTC)