User talk:Joel amos/Archive 0

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Re: Question
No, not that I'm aware of. 19:25, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks =)Joel amos 19:25, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

XP Counter Argument
Not it off, NOW. You said you didn't want two pics so I deleted one and put mine.

I'm the one that made the article, so back the fuck off kid.

Um..how are you going to blatantly lie to me and tell me that you made the article when, well, I did. If you look back at the history, I am the first 15 edits, clearly showing that I am the creator. On my article, I will use my image, especially since it shows much more detail and shows how a player is actually aquiring XP. Thanks for your understanding.Joel amos 11:18, April 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Joel amos ITz ApPlee, no one owns articles on the Wiki, just because you created the article does not give you the right to do as you wish with it. Also, please keep swearing to a minimum as it only serves to aggravate the situation. Thanks. 11:29, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Caleb, you fail. made those comments, and joel is asking for help here.  11:32, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad, I got confused with the unsigned comments. The above should have been directed at ITz ApPlee. 11:37, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

thanks rwojy Joel amos 11:35, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

@C.Chiam

It's not that I have a problem with someone editing a page that I started. But, it is really annoying that after I put so much work into an article, people start making it look a lot worse. For example, ITz ApPlee was throwing his picture (with a fail-caption) at random spots on the page, messing up the text, etc. It's a very small page, and there were already two better pictures, so his picture was unneededd, but he kept plastering it up there at any spot. --Joel amos 11:41, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * For the most part, try to work it out with the editor on the article's talkpage or your user talkpages. If you do not manage to reach a compromise, you can ask other users to join the discussion to settle the dispute. 11:45, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I will definately do so if the problem arises again. --Joel amos 11:48, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, yea fool no one owns the article so stop replacing your stupid picture with noob rune.

ight kiddoe? anyone can edit this so smd? —ITz ApPlee (talk • contribs) did not sign this comment.

The "Preview" Function
Hey there, thanks for contributing so much to the XP counter article. In the future please click Preview before saving the page, so you can make sure there aren't any typos or formatting mistakes. This will clean up the history page of the article, making it easier to manage previous versions. Thanks! 22:16, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

The "PREVIEW FUNCTION" doesn't help when many people are editing at once because then if I work for a long time, and someone else makes an edit, my work has jsut been lost. So instead, I was making short little edits. --Joel amos 11:12, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * One thing you could try, is to copy your edit (when finished-ctrl+c or apple+c on a mac), then click "article" or whatever kind of page it is in the top righthand corner. Once there, click edit, highlight all the text, and then paste (ctrl+v/apple+v). Also, if you are only making edits to one paragraph, you can scroll down when you get an edit conflict, copy your text using the above, and then paste it where you need it. You can do that with more lines, but it becomes a hassle. 11:58, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Dungenoeering Glitch Picture - Why?
Why are you so intent on replacing this pic: It was uploaded on the 17th of April, which is obviously way before you did. --Jlun2 13:17, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

The first time I uploaded it, I was going to upload it without knowing there was already a picture. When I saw the picture that was there, I figured, "Since I'm already here, I might as well put my picture up because there is more Dungeoneering progress." If I had previously known that there was a picture almost congruent to mine, I would never had bothered. The second time that I uploaded my picture, is because my picture had been replaced by a picture that wasn't of the glitch at all! I have not been agressive at all in my picture-uploading. I could care less which picture is used. (However, doesn't it make sense to use the one with more progress...?) --Joel amos 21:10, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It would make more sense to use one with no progress whatsoever. 02:40, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Then go ahead and ruin YOUR ring for a stupid picture. I've long forgotten about this "issue".--Joel amos 11:25, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Stop please
You don't need to make silly and backward names for redirects, only expected common misspellings. Thanks.--Degenret01 14:59, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

What does it really matter?Joel amos 15:02, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Please, no URLs in edit summary
Its advertising, which is not allowed. Thanks for understanding.--Degenret01 14:16, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, it's actually called "teaching nublets how to use correct grammar".--Joel amos 14:26, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Chiam Question

 * Are you the owner of User:Rodzinsky? 14:30, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I am aware...Why do you ask?--Joel amos 14:56, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Redirects
Save your sarcasm. Yes, it was nonsense. Just as your spelling words backwards is nonsense. Have a nice day.--Degenret01 11:42, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, ir would be a smart move for you to read RS:UTP. Insulting, mocking, or any ridicule what so ever of other editors OR their edits can result in you being blocked. We strive for an enjoyable environment here and nasty negative comments hurt the process. So don't use them, on talk pages, or in edit summaries.--Degenret01 11:50, May 13, 2010 (UTC)




 * Thanks. I'm glad you have deep concern for my life. And btw, I was under the impression that redirects are used for common misspellings. When people are typing "ing" fast, it tends to come out "ign", which is why i made a redirect article entitled "Dungeoneerign". Nonsense? Not in my book. Thanks for understanding--Joel amos 20:58, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Note that the (and the only contributor was ____) automatically appears in the delete summary if only one person has edited it. I don't think any sysop here (including myself) bothers to remove that. 21:03, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, good. Thanks for clearing that up.--Joel amos 21:11, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you realize this...
I hope that you realize that everyone here is here a volunteer. We all give our time up to make the wiki better. It might seem like people are attacking you personally, but really everyone telling you things wants you to become a better contributor, and the wiki to become a better community. As a general rule, people with several thousand edits are pretty knowledgeable about the way things work. You may not agree with what they do, but when you take it up with them on their talk page, try and be nice about it and you may get a better response- "You attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.". I hope you take this into consideration and have a nice day! 12:31, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Personal images
Sorry, but we don't allow users to host personal images here. They have to be used in an article or they get deleted. If you like, you can upload to imageshack and use that URL to have the pic displayed on your page.--Degenret01 11:38, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I display personal images on my userpage. And you can also, as I said. You simply may not host them here. As in, they may not be uploaded and stored on the RuneScape Wiki. They must be stored elsewhere. Thats totally in line with policy.--Degenret01 11:42, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Please do not upload images solely for your userpage. If you want images for your userpage, please upload them to ImageShack or PhotoBucket, and place the direct link to image on your userpage to display the image. I have uploaded your last personal image to imageshack, simply place  in your userpage to display it. Thanks, 20:24, May 14, 2010 (UTC) 7 Okay, thanks. I would have done that, but when I previewed it, it didn't show the picture. It only shows up once the article is saved. Before that, I tried putting the link in the "Link" space when uploading the picture. That didn't work, so I didn't know what to do.--Joel amos 20:36, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

YouTube
All you need to do is put the code for the video (the numbers at the end of the URL) between the following tags:. ;) The Pandorica will open. 20:53, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Dragon gauntlets
Can you please explain how dragon gauntlets can be applied to Dungeoneering? I don't notice the connection. Thanks. 21:10, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, I see it now. Thanks for explaining to me. 21:17, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Names on pictures
This image:



A name of an NPC.

--Jlun2 04:43, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

level 120 dung
While your reasons may be valid, they are no more valid than because Jagex rolled a die, it was a number on a car license plate, or it is a favorite aunts house number. There could be a million reasons, none more likely than any other, and we are not listing them all. So we are not listing any. Leave it out please.--Degenret01 11:49, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I've already made that decision, thanks. 11:51, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I was trying to show you that there is no proof of your speculation. 15:51, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, that's what Degenret did. You, on the other hand, stated an irrelevant fact. 20:20, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's the only proof that existed about anything related to level 120. Just stop with this. 08:57, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Date
It's the 6th month. 11:23, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

You're three days late lol 11:24, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh? It is the 6th month... April = 4; May = 5; June = 6. What about the day? 11:33, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Let's put it this way: If you wan't your accouncment to be recent news, you're three days late. =P 11:36, June 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I should have said this from the start: I'm talking about your user page at your hiscores. 11:37, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for notifying me...I was a tad confused -- 11:39, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Lol, that's an interesting question. The simplest answer is that I don't know. You'd have to ask Jagex. There are a bunch of different items A stone bowl, A stylish hat, A scruffy note that simply have an "A" in front of them for no apparent reason. No idea why though. In cases like A key, there are already items called Key, so that's in place to distinguish the different items. However, there's no Powdered wig that needs to be distinguished. So I have no idea. As for my talk page, I'll get there soon :D 00:42, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Summer Wikifest 2010
'SHOOT!! I KNEW I WOULDN'T BE THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT NOW I FIND OUT THAT I WON'T EVEN BE THERE FOR THE START!! I MISSED IT BY 10 MINUTES!!! DARN!! HAVE FUN LUCKY ATTENDERS' 18:44, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth GIF Files.
I don't. I've never uploaded a file onto here. I believe we prefer PNG's however. 00:15, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The software i use to capture the screen is Camtasia studio. I typically take a recording, save it as a .avi file, and the edit it into an animation using Photoshop. This video gives a pretty good description of how to do it, but using VirtualDub is unnecessary. It took me a while to figure out how to make nice animations like File:Dungeoneering-runecrafting-altar.gif, it's just a lot of trial and error. Feel free to ask if you've got any more questions. Cheers- 02:37, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * When you go to save the screen recording you have taken, it should give you the option of saving it as a .camrec file or a .avi file. Since I'm not sure what version of Catasia you're using, I would suggest Google. As for the close-up animations, my monitor has a fairly high resolution and large size, so Runescape displays quite large in fullscreen mode. I do not zoom, as it causes a decrease in quality, I simply take a recording of the screen as I see it. -- 01:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Lumbridge Rat
You are correct, the file is not found on the page. User:Cook Me Plox/DPL/Items was for categorizing the Animations into the Animation category. I've already added that file to the category. Because I used DynamicPageListing to make that page, and because of the parameters I used, when a file is added to the Animations category, it goes off of the list automatically. Some things happen faster than others, and Lumbridge rat.gif still thought that it was used in my page. To "purge" this and make it update, add ?action=purge to the end of the URL. I did that, and now the file should no longer think it links to my page. By the way, how did you come across this? 22:47, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^_^ 23:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Zombie head
I deleted it as a duplicate of the image that's already on the Zombie head article. Is it not the same content? If I am wrong, then I'll undelete it, but it seems to me that its the same image. 23:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok sorry about the misunderstanding. 00:04, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * (Butting in) just edit the page, click on Add category near the bottom of the edit box, and type in the category you want, like this. -- 00:22, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can also type in on the page. It won't appear in the text but will add the page to the category.  00:23, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, guys! -- 00:31, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's true, but you're very deluded if you think things are ever going to get organized around here  18:35, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * *sigh* I try, I try...-- 19:07, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Collapseable Text
You could go about it by making a wiktable without borders/lines between cells. It might be kind of hard to engineer that, but it could be done. I don't know if you could do it straight up, but you could try RS:UH. 22:05, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure how to do that myself, but I'm sure that it is possible with HTML. As stated above, User Help would be a good place to go. Sorry I couldn't give you the answer though. 22:10, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, anyways, though! I'll try User Help =) -- 22:35, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, anyways, though! I'll try User Help =) -- 22:35, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Collapsible text
Take another look at RS:UH. Hope this works for what you have intended. 09:36, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

File:Bow Enhanced.gif
I disagree that its a speedy move candidate. The name is not random numbers or letters, and the name is relevant to the subject. Because it is just a file name, it does not matter that much - you can just state in the page text that it is also the curtsy emote. Moving it would just create extra work for us and the servers. If you still want it moves, use name. 16:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

zombie head dialogue
RuneScape:Requests_for_deletion/Archive_12. All dialogue pages are illegal. All were deleted.--Degenret01 02:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very short snippets are allowed, but very little. If you read that deletion discussion I think it may reference something like 10-20% of the total at max.--Degenret01 20:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

thanks :)
Thanks for updating my photo. I really had no idea how to zoom in, so I just did the whole thing. This is referring to the Zenevivia boss battle picture on Love Story.

Thanks, -- k thx bye - Evil Borg2 11:56, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

speedy deletion
If a file does not have a page that it is on and is just sitting there, then there is no point in keeping it. If someone wants to put it on a page than you can keep them but if they are not on pages they will be deleted and can be re added later on if someone wants to put it on a certain page. 15:00, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

First i am not saying pictures should be deleted the minute they are uploaded if they are not in an article, but when you upload it it should be put in an article quickly, which 18hours later is not, also pictures are used for the articles and you should only upload images if you are going to put it on an article. Also if you an image needs to be discovered the only way someone will find it is if it is on a page, nobody looks around the file main space. Another thing is if someone wants to create an article they can get the picture themselves or if they can't get it they can leave the article without a picture and wait for someone else to upload it. 02:23, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

They do harm the wiki as it wastes space that could be used for something else. 02:49, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes the file name probably won't be used but it uses space as in 100KB which could be used for other things as the wiki servers don't have unlimited space, they may have a lot but not unlimited. 02:55, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Speedy Deletion
I removed a few of the images, but most seem to have no purpose... --Coolnesse 15:52, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: User page fix
Best thing to do is to go to your preferences, then the Watchlist tab, and check "Make my followed pages list private" or something like that. That removes that box. Mark ( talk ) 18:45, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Robbed
Haha, that's awesome, no worries I approve. And thanks for letting me know also, I like knowing my work is appreciated :P Although I would suggest changing the colour scheme and maybe a different book picture for the guestbook, to make it more of your own, unless you happen to really like the color scheme and book picture that I used O_o 06:02, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Close-up Gif Animations
Unfortunately I don't know of any other way! Sorry- 15:05, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
I think you're being a little too possessive with your edits. (Case example is File:No Dungeoneering XP.png.) With the intent of having high quality images, it is better to have it be HD and use it as a historical image of the interface and put the information about Dungeoneering in the article. Please don't revert it again. 03:27, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is that you're considering it any less my business than yours. The whole point of a wiki is the collaboration of information and opinions from all users. I've asked other users and they agree that that particular file is nothing more than the interface with some badly painted lines. It is more effective as HD. Please read and follow RS:UTP and don't insult me. 17:00, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Per your last comment please read AEAE and this. Admins aren't fonts of knowledge. 17:08, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted the image that you and Riblet are discussing above to Riblet's version. I have no connections with either of you so please, Joel, do not say I am siding with Riblet because he is my friend or something. Riblet's image has transparency and is crisp. The caption along with article will explain the image. On the other hand your image is quite messy with parts of the screen cut off, no transparency at all, and does not meet the requirements of what the wiki likes for its images. So please, let us not have a revert war. Thank you.

One more thing, what you said in your last revert, "Gtfo, Riblet?" was completely unnecessary and rude to Riblet. That was quite uncalled for and I suggest you think before you act again. 17:24, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Allow me to explain this situation in a somewhat civilized manner:

The image I created was to show that a week after any skill is released, there is no option for experience when using a Lamp. I used Dungeoneering as an example. People are treating these two controversialized images as one in the same. They are, however, not. The HD image is quite a fine image. Props to Riblet for creating it. However, seeing as it is merely a picture of an older interface before an update, it does not need to replace my image. My image proves something. Also, my image may be the only image of its kind in existence; it was only possible to be taken for about 7 days. Riblet15's image was possible to be captured for over 730 days. It is not special in any aspect other than the fact that it can no longer be created. This is not a problem, however, because there are most likely numerous images like his in existence. Now for the cropping of the image, I shall explain. The image was cropped as small as possible without erasing any proof. In other words, the right side was cropped to the Dungeoneering skill. Part of the bottom was cropped (by Degenret01 to erase any players' names in the chat box. The circles and lines were drawn to show the highlights of the photo, so that to an untrained eye, the image wouldn't look messy. I do have the full screenshot saved. If anyone wants, I can upload that image onto the wiki, and they can edit it to fit their liking and use it to replace File:No Dungeoneering XP.png . -- Joel amos  Talk   Contribs  18:02, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not the problem, the problem is that you were hostile about it. Even if you disagree with what other people do, it's important to keep a cool head and be nice to everyone. And also use your signature template. 18:05, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you are so possessive over the image would you please just send me the original file without the red lines, so I can make it look more cleaner with transparencies and such. 18:48, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have the screenshot without the red lines? 19:49, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because the line is a pixel wide does not make it easy to edit out. I'm not going to sit their with a color picker and pencil since the colors are so variant. 19:52, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I say neither of the images are necessary. Not everything must be explained in pictures, especially not this. Its very simple thing. When dungeoneering came out you could not use lamps on it because it was a new skill. There's no picture needed at all. 21:17, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'll just inject myself in this conversation: Let's forget for a second about the image and just think about our conduct here. Your comments towards Riblet both on his talk page and on the edit summary were inappropriate and rude, and they violate our user treatment policy. In the future, calm down, take a step away and think about it before you say something that could be construed as rude. We can all engage in the discussion over the image in a civilized and calm manner without biting each others' heads off.

As for the image itself, because you don't have an unedited version of the image without the red lines, it is my opinion that the image uploaded earlier by DeeME is of higher quality than the one you uploaded. The only benefit to your version of the image is that is gives explanation to what it is, which can easily be explained by a caption below the image. However, the image is altogether unnecessary and doesn't really provide anything that can't be explained in words.

In regards to administrators: they are not all-seeing, all-powerful beings. Their opinion is not necessarily any more valid than anyone else's. I have noticed many people, when engaging in edit wars, appeal to an administrator in the hope that it will settle the issue once and for all. Generally it doesn't.

I hope we can all peacefully edit this wiki without engaging in edit wars and becoming emotionally invested in our images.

21:23, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Stats template
I'm afraid it must just be your computer, it appears fine to me. 04:10, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its more likely to be your browser. Are you using internet explorer? If so, shame on you. 04:42, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope! Firefox, baybeee -- 04:43, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well then that's really strange. Other borders appear fine? 04:44, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. For example: Notes-- 04:47, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * It could be your skin perhaps. 04:52, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I dunno what's up. They all appear full size to me, and the fact that they use frame| instead of thumb| means they shoudl be full size for everyone. This is probably an issue related to why your borders aren't appearing right. 05:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)