Talk:Achievements

Can I request assistance for tasks in these diaries, or do I need to train to the required levels? -Bo


 * You need to train to the required levels, and certain boosts such as Spicy stews can be used. Unfortunately, the request assistance does not work for Achievement diary tasks. 11:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Whoever says Assist doesn't work, haven't tried it.

Assist system DO work, it is not a matter of beliefs. Do TRY it if you don't believe it. (Or if you don't try it, then don't write assumptions as facts).

I used assist system with lumbridge/draynor tasks, smelting steel bar, smithing steel longsword and crafting holy symbol and all task were "updated" (completed). Maques1 10:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I tried with Varrock Hard tasks, and it doesn't work.  11:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This is getting interesting...

I tried smithing adamant med helm from varrock hard task, and indeed it didn't work.

Then I wanted to try cooking a lobster from lumbridge/draynor medium, with a level 37 account. (To cook a lobster, you need 40). First, I tried without assistance, and guess what happened? I was able to cook a lobster with just being on level 37! Then I got the "diary updated" message, and subsequent tries of cooking a lobster failed with the usual message that I'd need level 40.

Is it a "glitch" then?

I offer my high level member account's help to sort out this matter. Maques1 12:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe you used a temporary boost? And the image says: "requesting your assistance."  Does that mean he/she is requesting your assistance, and not the other way around?  12:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That image is a fake. The total level is 341, but when you add up the numbers, it's only 338.   12:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad. Sorry. 13:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you think I have nothing else to do just spend time to make fake images here? You probably didn't add the 3 "scrolled down" skill's level. That's probably 338+3=341. Also like I said, I am willing to repeat this. Create a new account, start diary, and I go assist wherever you want. Maques1 12:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I definitely did not. This was nonmember account/world, so I could only wear chef's hat I guess, but I didn't. Also further attempts to cook resulted in "normal" messages (no level 40 - can't cook). A noob was around trying to trade and req. assist, I didn't even expected that it should work, so I didn't logout to clear screen. But now I can't do it again, as task is completed for the account. If anyone has/makes a noob account, I'd be glad to assist. Maques1 12:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Game Guide
Jagex had also mentioned, in the Game Guide, that the Assist System does not work for Achievement Diaries.

11:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Moderators
Winterhook, a Forum mod in RuneScape, also said the Assist System does not work for Achievement diaries. See http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?71,72,964,57813431. 11:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Assist doesn't work for smithing or farming, but you can use, Mature dwarven stout, Garden pie, Ect, tried and tested with friends.. Real high level players

Re Glitch
Maques1 i think maybe because Lumbridge / draynor diarys' are free to play, that assist system may work, to encorage less skilled accounts to complete, anyone wants to test again, can contact me in game, low lvl account Spartes Bain my f2p acc no diarys complete ( forgot to sign)

I'm online, added "phamtom_2", no sign. I can bring materials, got raw lobster, ores, etc. Specify what needed. Maques1 12:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Phamtom_x2, im on spartes_bain at sec world 106 lumby castle..

Please confirm, that you could cook lobster with lvl 15 only. Also I'm willing to test some others, eg. smelt steel bar, craft holy symbol, smith steel longsword, etc. Maques1 13:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

was able to smith with assist, cook without required lvl

So, we've tried these, all completed with assist, except cooking lobster, where no assist needed at all, so account could cook the (one) lobster with level 15 cooking, even without assist!

Even though if the utilization of the assist system is purposely working for lumbridge/draynor tasks, the "cooking lobster without any level requirement and no need to assist" part is clearly a glitch. Maques1 13:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

If this is definitely a glitch, and according to the Rules of RuneScape (Rule 4), bugs/glitches should be reported to Jagex. It should not be "promoted" in the articles. 13:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This is not about "promoting" the glitch. (Though there is a glitch collection on this wiki I believe). It was simply found out during the debate of whether the assist system is usable or not. I report this bug to Jagex, and also ask to clarify this. If I get answer, I post it here. Maques1 13:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes i have reported as a bug also, we do not yet no if its a glitch or intentional on jagexs' part, to further aid new players in free2play diarys' hope we get some aswers off jagex soon,

Skeletal Wyverns
That players will have to kill a Skeletal wyvern for the Falador diary is a logical conclusion, but has it been confirmed by anyone at Jagex? If so, where's the source? --nekobawt 23:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok yeah, never mind, I'm an idiot. I somehow managed to read everything but the second paragraph, which happens to detail the Fally diary. Doh! --nekobawt 20:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Overall Rewards?
I was thinking it might be nice to have an "overall rewards" section", detailing all rewards? Idk, but i got a picture of all the items together.

Couldn't think of which section to note this in, but it would be nice if the level requirements on the lamps were provided.

I just did the falador ones, and tried to put the xp on RC.

2 of the lamps said 90+

1 said 84+

and the last allowed me to use it with my rc level being 82. 86.174.23.17 20:31, September 8, 2010 (UTC)Proto

Rewards pages
All the pages of the rewards should be condensed to one page. i.e. instead of Falador shield 1, Falador shield 2 and Falador shield 3, there should be just Falador shield detailing each of the shields' benifits (in the same style that Explorer's ring does for 1, 2, and 3 of the ring). It would condense the pages, and make it look better, in general. 17:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * There is the long debated and outstanding policy on this wiki of RuneScape:Granularity. In nearly every case where I've seen articles of different items combined, there ended up being strong reasons for breaking them apart again that showed up at a later date.  Each of these items do have different stats, abilities, and many do even require obtaining them from different NPCs.  On the other hand, players will never be having multiple achievement diary items (aka both a Explorer's ring 1 and 2).  I don't see the compelling reason to combine them, but mine isn't the only opinion on this topic.


 * If you do decide to combine these items, try to be consistent across all of the achievement diary items and don't half-complete this with some items combined and others separated. That would be worse than simply leaving them all as independent articles.  Also, clean up references to these items, such as the Achievement Diary templates and redirect references.  --Robert Horning 18:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Quest Reqs
They need to be updated to fit the newest diary! Quests such as King's Ransom!

03:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Update Current-Reward Picture
Hey you know that picture with that lady wearing all the current Achievement Diary rewards? Well she's missing the Enhanced excalibur sword that you get once you complete the Seers Village Achievement Diary.

So can anyone re-update that picture please? I just want everything to be accurate here.

-- King soro1 22:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't get enchanced excalibur as a reward, just as a side bonus the ability to upgrade excalibur should you want to. Hence, its not really achievement diary armour, as its not a direct reward from the diary. Should anyone thing differently, then I don't mind taking the pic, however it won't be animated (which is good, cos its needless). 22:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Alching Diary Rewards
On the articles for each Diary reward (fremmy boots, etc.), it says the high and low alch values are "Not applicable". Yes they are. I just high alched my Fally Shield 2, and I got 120 coins. This isn't vital info, but if someone could take out the time to alch each level of each reward on high and low alch (lotsa work :o), it would be greatly appreciated. I've already filled in the alch info for Fally Shield 2. -- 02:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Total requirements are wrong
I've noticed that the required combat level for all the diaries is wrong. It's 100 instead of 20. This is because someone has missed it from the karamja diary which requires 100 cb to get a task from Duradel. It's also not shown in the karamja reqs tablet. I put this info here because I don't know how to edit the reqs tablet. --Pandaflakes 11:31, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

40 Defence Requirement
Isn't one of the tasks for the Seers' diary that you have to use Piety? I do believe you need 70 prayer as well as 70 defence to do so. 86.137.221.103 09:41, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

4 sets of tasks
"Achievement Diaries contain a list of cities and regions in RuneScape, each having four sets of tasks to complete."

Excuse me, but the last time I counted, it was three each. Talking to the starting person is definitely not a "set of tasks". The only exception is currently the Ardougne Diary, one might note that in the intro too.

I didn't want to edit it incase I misunderstand something...

Lamp requirements
It would be nice if the level requirements on the lamps were provided.

I just did the falador ones, and tried to put the xp on RC.

2 of the lamps said 90+

1 said 84+

and the last allowed me to use it with my rc level being 82.

Regarding the above, i also don't know whether temporary boosts would allow you to use the lamps on that skill. For RC using the guy in the dorgeshun(sp?) city would have raised my rc by enough, but i already used the lamp =/ If someone could find out, that would be much appreciated.

86.174.23.17 20:38, September 8, 2010 (UTC)Proto

Diary Requirements
Something that has recently started to bug me is the list of required levels to fully complete the diaries. This list uses the elite diaries, which have high level requirements. I think it would be nice to list the skill requirements for at least the hard diaries here also. I find it irritating to look at all of the 80's and 90's, when I just want to know the level requirements for the hard diaries right now.

I know the requirements are listed on each diares page for each set of tasks, but to figure out what levels I need, it requires going through the easy, medium, and hard tasks of each diary to determine what the highest skill level required to complete them all is.

I think it would be appreciated if a list of all the skill levels required were listed for at least the hard diaries, but would like to see it done for easy, medium, hard, and elite. 166.164.99.95 02:58, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Task % done
Hi, since all tasks are up2date is there still need for the table listing how far done they are? --Midall 15:50, November 4, 2010 (UTC)