Talk:Money making guide/Archive 1

Merchating?
Merchanting should be included as well? Examples include deaths, rares, etc
 * There already is a merchanting apge. We could link to it and take a little out of it to put on this page.22:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I suggest that we actually do this, since it's becoming cluttered, and removing anything will help cut down on that. It also seems much more for that guide than this one - perhaps a brief description, and then a link saying "Main Article At", taking you to the Merchanting article? I know this' come up before, so before doing it myself, I thought it more polite to ask. 21:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

That merge tag...
I don't agree with it, it's not realy that relevant to the subject of Coins. Maybe the Getting Coins section of the Coins page could be deleted instead. --Raven110283 15:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it will not be merged. --◙▲╛Whiplash ◙▲╛ 16:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This article needs work. -- Carralpha

Really? What could be contributed? I think this article should be featured. Tv4375 18:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Group of Workers
I am not aware if there is one, but I would like to make one. A group of workers. I know Miw and Gangsterls are working on it, I think. I am also, see this, and I would like to for a group of people working on this article. Sign Bellow:
 * -- Ilyas
 * 18:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I also heard on some one's talk page that there should be a template for us. I think it was Gangsterls's.22:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Double natures
If normal natures get you 300k an hour, how do doubles get any more than 600k per hour? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 12:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Because you don't have to buy 1 pure essence per nat...instead it's a half an ess per nat. Halves cost of ess. 18:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Law Running
Isnt the Void Knight Outpost bank closer to Entrana then Dranyor Village? --Wiiwantxbox 00:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

lol, i just posted that same question on the article Law running. Tesfan 03:19, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hard Leather Bodies
I make a deacent amount of money making and selling hard leather bodies. However, this is popular and the price is generally at the lowest it can go.--Unionhawk 20:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * UGH no Aurora sword [[Image:Butter-fly.png]] 06:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

selling hard leather bodies at edgeville or karamja would be better. However, its not the best either since hard leather body (to me) always nets small amount of money compared to smithing and selling steel items Fatman4ever 14:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I spent about 100k on Crafting the other day, and believe me, no one wanted to buy the Hard Leather Bodies that I had crafted. It is a bad idea going out of your way to gain all of those cow hides, thinking that you are going to get thousands of gp back from it. Matt2 01:16, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Other ways of making money
There seems to be other legal ways of making money aside from what is given by the article. This would include scavenging (those who pick items dropped by other players and monsters killed by other players) as well as begging. Can we add this too or not? and why? Fatman4ever 14:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Those two ways of making money, aren't there because there is no guarantee of getting items. It would be irresponsible for us to list that, as it annoys many players, and is considered harrasment. Again, with picking up items, it's common knowledge to do that, again it is very rare to find an item that is worth a large amount of money. Matt2 01:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Orgainising list into non-members and members adding information on banaa picking, getting seconderies for Herblore?
Do you think it would be a good idea, to orgainise the lists into non-members and members? Then there would be less confusion as to weather the spot was avaliable to non-members. Would it be a good idea to add information on getting money from Banana picking at Karamja and getting Eye of Newts etc. for members Herblore? Matt2 01:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

The full rune strategy
There is a hidden message on how merchanting full rune sets will not really work. Can we have a poll or something to delete or keep it, because it could be misleading information. Butterman62 18:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the "hidden message"? Just curious about what needs to change.   18:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It says

"I would dispute this - you simply cannot buy lots of sets of rune off a single person for 160k or even 175k. As a 99 smith the minimum I can sell a rune set for is 182k (11.5k rune ore + 8 coal 1.2k + nature rune 0.3k = 13k per bar, assume profit for me of 1k per bar).  The ONLY way to get a full set for less than 182k is to buy the kites and legs off high level smiths, and buy the plates and full helms elsewhere (from pkers/slayers/etc).  Doing this you might get a full set for around 160k, but it's a significantly higher amount of trading work.  You could, of course, just buy the kites and legs off high level smiths and resell, it's probably about as profitable and as fast, but finding those people with those levels can be difficult sometimes! -- euc" Butterman62 18:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing some methods
As I looked through the article, I saw some things that, personally, I have never seen done, and neither have my friends, when I asked them. I would like other users' input on this, and if they agree, they shall be deleted. I will continually add to this list, and I encourage others to do so too.


 * In mining, in the gem rocks section, in all my, about, 9 months of membership, I have never seen anyone buy a red topaz machete for gp, much less for 100-500k.
 * In smithing, I disagree with casting low alchemy on platebodies, or anything at all for that matter.
 * In fishing, through experience, I see that at level 50 fishing, swordfish are extremely slow, and you most often get tuna.
 * In runecrafting, in the law running part, I have tried banking at both Draynor and the Void Knight's Outpost, and Draynor is definitely faster.
 * In runecrafting, in the nature running part, I have heard all kinds of worlds. Should we just say ask on the forums?
 * In runecrafting, in runecrafting death runes, I do not believe they are hard to sell. I almost always see buyers buying 300ea and up.
 * In herblore, on the second tip, you cannot selectively buy unidentified high level herbs by themselves for 1k each. Virtually impossible.
 * In herblore, about the mort myre fungi, is their any proof that it is almost solely intended for "A Fairy Tale Part 2"?
 * In herblore, about the eyes of newt, I have never ever seen anyone buy them in bulk, because they are impossibly easy to obtain. Much less at 250 each.
 * The whole merchanting section needs to be considered
 * In combat, I have never seen anyone, during all my free and member time, buy regular bones. They are also impossibly easy to obtain.

Again, please put your input on this. If not many people seem to have a problem with this, I will delete that part of them. Butterman62 03:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

huh?
really, these methods are junk. they're aimed at higher levels, and they don't work much. prices for these dropped, flax is 80 gp!fishing swordfish???fish lobsters and cook them, you can get 250k a week. this stuff is really junk. i dont have that many idea either, but this is just RUBBISH.
 * You could get 250k in about 2 hours or less fishing/cooking lobsters... --
 * So that means you agree? Butterman62 02:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No. I inferred that couldn't take the previous post seriously because of the previous poster's claim that spending a week and getting 250k is a better idea than what the article suggests. -- 02:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Flax still sells for 100 each, I've made lots of easy money doing that combined with Miscellania gathering my flax. To go along with Themurasame, the person posting wasn't that intelligent, first of all, cooked lobsters sell for less than raw lobs (raw:250 each, cooked: 200 each).  If you're going to comment on the problems fine, but offer a solution and make the changes, that's "constructive criticism", otherwise the comments don't help much.  17:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * ahem, i didnt mean it like that. i meant that SOME of these are junk. i agree with some, but disagree with others. and i got 63 fishing, not 99. flax prices lowerded, and i have intelligence. i used a PRICE GUIDE thats updated every day! plus, i am going to fix some, sheesh. you guys attack negative posts and counter them with negative posts? im glad i dont have a runescape wiki account...I agree with the post above about removing some. and dragons at 79 or over uses up 4-5 lobsters, not good profit if you pay for lobsters. EDIT: SOrry for all the edits, but your just attacking me because you think this article is wonderful. Listen to the post above, look at a good price guide, and fix this. Because, im not changing all of these mistakes that you make, when I point out the obvious. Don't change it, I don't care either. I doubt you can follow prices changing, anyway. I'm not going to bother to check counter posts, nor read this article again. and i wont complain, so there.


 * FYI, price guides are inaccurate. If I'm still able to sell flax for 100 each, how am I wrong?  However, you're wrong about me thinking this guide is great, I'm not very impressed with it myself, and I use very few of the suggestions listed, but rather than complain about it, the idea of the wiki is to add to and fix it.  It's already stated that the prices aren't always as we have posted, but that's all relative, since anything can be sold for anything, price guides only go off of the opinions of those making the guides, just based off of what those few people have seen.  RS forums are always higher than regular prices, so if they base they're estimates off the forums, it's bad info.  At the same time, buying/selling items in either World 1 or 2 lowers prices, so you can't sell things for as high there, although they're good places to buy from.  If the price guide uses those worlds for item prices, the guide will have lower prices than what many people will pay.  Example: On forums, some sell flax for 120 each, on world 2, it's closer to what you've said at 80ish per flax, however, if I go to a random world at Seers bank, it doesn't usually take a lot of time to sell flax for 100 each.  Just one example.  Don't assume prices on the guides are correct, even if they're "updated daily".  Too bad you'll never read this post though.  Oh well.   16:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How about a poll? Ends at 5 days after start.

In mining, in the gem rocks section, in all my, about, 9 months of membership, I have never seen anyone buy a red topaz machete for gp, much less for 100-500k. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC) In smithing, I disagree with casting low alchemy on platebodies, or anything at all for that matter. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In fishing, through experience, I see that at level 50 fishing, swordfish are extremely slow, and you most often get tuna. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In runecrafting, in the law running part, I have tried banking at both Draynor and the Void Knight's Outpost, and Draynor is definitely faster. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In runecrafting, in the nature running part, I have heard all kinds of worlds. Should we just say ask on the forums? Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In runecrafting, in runecrafting death runes, I do not believe they are hard to sell. I almost always see buyers buying 300ea and up. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In herblore, on the second tip, you cannot selectively buy unidentified high level herbs by themselves for 1k each. Virtually impossible. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In herblore, about the mort myre fungi, is their any proof that it is almost solely intended for "A Fairy Tale Part 2"? Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In herblore, about the eyes of newt, I have never ever seen anyone buy them in bulk, because they are impossibly easy to obtain. Much less at 250 each. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In combat, I have never seen anyone, during all my free and member time, buy regular bones. They are also impossibly easy to obtain. Delete Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Butterman62 22:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay now, I'm deleting this stuff. Butterman62 03:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Overview of each skill
Does anyone else think it might work to post an overview of the skills money making capabilities at the top of the section? I'm fishing sharks and I'm bored, so I'm gonna add that right now. Tell me if it's wrong.--Andy mci 14:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Construction Section
Teletabs DO NOT sell at these prices, unless sold one at a time to desperate people! I know this since I was in the business for a whole year. Just posting to see if I can change it to the real bulk prices.


 * Lumbridge: 1k - 1.5k each <--- Lumbridge Home Teleport makes this almost useless
 * Varrock: 1k - 1.5k each <--- Not very sought after.
 * Falador: 1k - 1.5k each <--- Same as above.
 * Camelot: 1k each <--- Cheapest to make, sells for the least on the forums.
 * Ardouge: 1.5k - 2k each <--- Two laws to make.
 * Yannile: 1.5k - 2k each <--- Same as above.
 * House: 1.5k - 2k each <--- The useful one. Can be used to train Construction, do Barrows/KQ trips, acts as all other Teletabs if the user has a good house.

These are the prices is the real world, not selling one or two at a time. Does anyone want to comment, I'll probably edit the page with this info in a day or two. E.T. Prod U ( Talk ) 21:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I didn't realize that. However, maybe keep that original price for, as you said, "maximum price for desperate people"? Butterman62 23:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, this would be useful for those few determined merchants with no lives. Seriously! =P E.T. Prod U  ( Talk ) 09:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot Vandalism
All right, I'm getting very sick of vandalism. A bot appears to be adding excess coding to Wiki links like Varrock, making this article longer than needed. I can't trace the vandalism, so if someone could help, I would really appreciate it.