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Ace of Risk's untitled messages to me.
A quick note, I'm no great fan of "placeholder" entries, since it's easier to find pages that require adding if there are no placeholders.

Any page with no/minimal content should be marked with the STUB template, so that it can be located easily. Ace of Risk 15:34, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Merovingian's untitled messages to me.
Screenshots sound good (we could follow the Wikipedia example of fair use). --Merovingian 04:49, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

X1011's untitled messages to me.
What do you think about the item categories? --X1011 23:53, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Vimescarrot's untitled messages to me.
Thanks muchly for the redirect; I assume doing the same for my talk page would just be a matter of copy-pasting what you did on the userpage and changing User:Vimescarrot to User Talk:Vimescarrot? Well I'll just do it anyway and look like a fool if it goes wrong :p thanks again. Vimescarrot 20:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Fetttson's untitled messages to me.
You seem to be the most active around here, so I have a few questions for you. What kind of pages need to be created? How can I help out here? I may have more later. Thanks. Fetttson 01:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol
Code Lyoko? I used to like that show. (note: posted by Wikipedia user Poorleno.

Proxy vandal
Hey man, we got a proxy vandal on the run. He's stopped for now, but these are his known IP addresses so far: I think that's all of them. I blocked one of them for 2 hours. Just thought I'd let you know. --Richard1990 23:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 72.232.31.146
 * 85.195.123.29
 * 85.195.123.22
 * 84.71.30.71 (maybe)

Donating to clan bank accounts...
Re: "I donate frequently to my clan's bank account" - You are breaking rule #8 by doing this you realize? Shadowdancer 03:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how, unless its a whole new account created solely for the purpose of holding the money. Even then I'm not sure... Vimescarrot 07:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Shadowdancer 07:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oi...rule #8 found here: http://kbase.runescape.com/lang/en/aff/runescape/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2078
 * There was some discussion about clan banks in pmod forums a while back (I'm not really supposed to discuss what goes on there normally). Basically, a clan bank is ONLY legal, if the person that owns the account is the ONLY person to log into it, and NEVER donates themselves, even via a proxy person. --Eucarya 08:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that Player Mods are exempt from the game rules. Item transferring across accounts is not allowed, period. Shadowdancer 14:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Many points to make here.


 * 1) why are you bulletpointing when you should be indenting?
 * 2) Eucarya is not saying P-mods are exempt. From the sound of it what was said applied to everyone, not just P-mods.
 * 3) "Item transferring across accounts is not allowed..." Er, isn't that basically what trading is? Item trsnferring is only not allowed if the two accounts are owned by one person, and I'm seeing no evidence of this happening here.

Vimescarrot 14:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Once more, I implore you to go read rule 8. You must not transfer items across multiple accounts that you own. Suppose that you me and this Eucarya person were all in a clan and I had an account called "Big Banker" and you gave me items on that account to give out to other players. That is in effect item transferring. Shadowdancer 17:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there really a difference as to whether I bullet-point or indent?


 * No, there is no difference, I was just wondering. Assume good faith! Anyways, I still don't understand your point, so I'll just leave. (this debate, that is.) Vimescarrot 17:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not breaking any rule, since I don't own that account. Although, I do think more than one person maintained the account... Then again the leaders were married. Does that count? Meh, I'm not in that clan anymoer, so I removed those lines. (updated my profile too). Oddlyoko 18:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No, even account-sharing amongst family members is not allowed. (If you're ever a pmod, you'll understand why - My brother gave my pass to his friend and he stole my whip, etc.).  It's not illegal to have 2 accounts, that's fine (hey, Jagex need to make money too eh?), but you are not allowed to trade or drop-trade between them, even via a proxy person.  This means that clan banks are ONLY legal if one person and one person only owns the bank, and NEVER donates to it themselves, or even has the bank character and their normal character logged in at the same time.  I don't break the rules myself, just to be clear --Eucarya 22:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back
Seems like you've been gone for ages... Hyenaste talk 18:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh no don't forget about us! :( [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 18:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:To-do
That would be great. I'd have to check other Wikis to see exactly what it should encompass, but it couldn't be too difficult to set up. Hyenaste talk 18:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Zezima
Unfortunately, we cannot protect a page from creation. We can only simply leave a message and protect it. You should go ahead and protect it now. Hyenaste talk 20:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem. Teach a man to prevent page creation and he will prevent page creations for his life... [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 20:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Deleting "RSDemon"
Third party programs have always been a sore spot for me. However, here is my specific reasoning for deleting the page:

It specifically states: "You must not attempt to use other programs (e.g. bots, macros or autominers) in conjunction with our games to give yourself an unfair advantage at the game." Shadowdancer 04:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Rule #7 is listed here: http://kbase.runescape.com/lang/en/aff/runescape/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2077
 * This is a Wiki about RuneScape. Not about outside programs or fanfiction or fansites or anything else.
 * It's bad enough this wiki has those accused Google ads to the right.

RSDemon was definitely not against rule 7. Shouldn't you have put it up for deletion instead of just doing it yourself? --Wowbagger421 04:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it should have been put under page creation protection. Huanghe63 05:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What part of "You must not attempt to use other programs in conjunction with our games" do you people not understand, exactly? I acted as per my points above. Shadowdancer 14:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And as for Andrew Gower, he very much has everything to do with RuneScape as he created it so therefore that point is invalid. Shadowdancer 14:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I stand by my action as per my Talk page. Shadowdancer 19:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Conjunction would mean the program would interact with the runescape client. RSDemon is just a helpful tool that can save you the need for looking things up on a fansite or doing math.  Rule 7 is to stop macroing.
 * --Wowbagger421 19:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Rule 7 is to stop third party program use, period.Shadowdancer 19:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If thats true, then wouldn't the name of the rule be "Third-party programs" instead of "Macroing?" Isn't the calculator on your computer just a third-party program?
 * --Wowbagger421 19:54, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you stop being an ass, please? I've deleted the page and my deletion stands.  Take it over my head if you have that much of an issue with my decision.  Seriously, give it up. Shadowdancer 19:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) My deepest concern with this is that it might set a precedent for other 3rd party programs. OK, say RSDemon were OK. Then someone could come along with a SwiftSwitch article. When we go to delete it, they cite this as third party programs as well and if RSDemon is OK then so should be SwiftSwitch. Then if SwiftSwitch is OK, then why not allow advertising for serious macroing programs? They're all 3rd party programs, so it is bias to include some but not others. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 19:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If there's a Swiftswitch article, I will delete that too as per the same reasons outlined above. Third party programs are against the game rules.  Furthermore, this wiki is not about external programs even if they were legitimate. Shadowdancer 20:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Life, The Universe, And Everything
Since it seems that my one administrative move is causing people grieft.

Based on this and the fact that several people here are blissfully ignorant of the game rules as per their own conveniences, I cannot continue to contribute here.

Deactivate my administrative powers, as I am through.Shadowdancer 21:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Fine, I've reconsidered. But we need some policies and soon.Shadowdancer 19:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Mkay, I just wanna know...can I expect to be regarded here as a "loose cannon" for making "controversial" edits and admin moves? Or what?  What do you think? Shadowdancer 04:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Images
Hey, I'm noticing that you're uploading duplicates of images that we already have. Am I missing the reason why? Hyenaste talk 18:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, just check the cooking article. Although, I do prefer yours since the filename offers no ambiguity as to whether it is cooked or not. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 18:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * But cooking and food are distinct: one is a skill and another a category of items. As for the images, the only difference is the filename. I prefer your name since "cookedcod" is more descriptive than "cod", but it would involve the semi-laborious task of switching out the images in all articles. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 18:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the cooking part of food is unnecessary. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 18:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

RuneScapeWiki: vs RuneScape:
It should be RuneScapeWiki, but that's not what it is. For proof, check the top of your contributions. In the namespace box, there is "RuneScape" but not "RuneScapeWiki". Hyenaste talk 11:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...
About this edit. Now why did you do that? Hyenaste talk 22:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason it is there is because is comes packaged with all new Wikis. It's like the cheap frame that accompanies some pictures&mdash;it's there to be changed. And is it even possible to change the site name? [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 22:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think so, if you contact a developer or other user with a status higher than b'crat. What's the harm in leaving it anyways? Oddlyoko 22:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Templates should be subst'ed whenever sensible. I can't find the exact rule anywhere but I assure you it is one. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 23:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * =D [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 23:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Cats go poop
If it happens again, it's policy. Hyenaste talk 02:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Blah, yeah just block him forever if it happens again. [[image:Green party hat.PNG|14px]] Hyenaste talk 02:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm getting perturbed.
My feathers are ruffled. Satisfied?Shadowdancer 04:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
The title says it all. Megalodon99 02:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Name
Sorry about the long sig. Can I use like one color for the main part, and one for talk? (Note: this was by Huanghe63, but I don't want to put the tildes due to strain.)


 * Ok, I changed it. Is this ok? Huanghe63 talk 02:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Better Decisions?
It seems I am incapable of making better decisions. Sorry to disappoint. Shadowdancer 18:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:edit summarehs
Oh, that's how I usually type. And speak. This "good grammar" and "proper spelling" nonsense is just a front. Hyenaste talk 18:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: "Don't delete talk pages"
Ok, I had a post on there I wanted people to read. Where could I put it so that it isn't out of place? -- Couchpotato99 21:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Shove Off
Shove off. Shadowdancer 01:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry about that comment. I needed a vacation so I took one. Shadowdancer 03:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Use of Forums
I have a question for you. I have asked a few people on Runescape (yes they were people from the wiki) about this and was told to talk to you (I belive that you are the only currently active bcrat). Is it okay to start a forum topic for something like selling full rune 190k, see article for details, post in the forum about messaging me, where i like to hang out that kind of thing, or even selling any item of any kind in the forums? Thanks Megalodon99 21:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Shadowdancer
He left a while back. He's not coming back. Just thought you ought to know. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 18:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I'm too lazy to look and see if anyone told you, but we had his sysop status removed after he blocked half of the wiki editors. -- Couchpotato99   (talk)   (contribs)  21:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Ads
Thanks for reporting the ad problems. I need to know the exact URL these link to, not just the text of the ad. I can't block the whole of ebay.com. :) Angela talk 09:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Style Page
We do have a style page! Here it is... Runescape:Style  Dreadnought talk 01:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Good work!
Heh thanks! It's all i've been doing the past..2 hours..Haha!  Dreadnought talk 04:56, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * "Think i should bot-flag myself for the time being?" Uhh..I'm not sure what that is! [[Image:Purple party hat.PNG|16px]] Dreadnought talk 05:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh I see..Sure you can..Do whatever you wat, I'm not stoppin' ya! [[Image:Purple party hat.PNG|16px]] Dreadnought talk 05:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * So...Why did you do all that again? [[Image:Purple party hat.PNG|16px]] Dreadnought talk 07:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

You'll live to be old!
Wow you're going to live for quit a while...On the other hand, i'll live till i'm 98 years old! (August 1 2091.) WoAh...That's my favorite number!  Dreadnought talk 08:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm Davidsam9800 -.- [[Image:Purple party hat.PNG|16px]] Dreadnought talk 08:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Grapple
You told me after I uploaded it..  Dreadnought talk 08:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Law Running still active
See here..Law Company <font color="Purple"> Dreadnought <font color="Purple">talk 10:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

2007!
YAy yyayay ayayay Happy 2007 woohooo Im so happy I LOVE OYU UORUTOU I LUV U Hahhhah yAYAYAYYa im so hyper hyerp hyper yayayyayay woootootohooto YAYAYYAYAYAY!!!! Wooohoooo to 2007 AYayayyaya YEAAAAAHHHH 10:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy new year!!!--Ilyas 16:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Dragon Battleaxe picture
I have edited the picture you have uploaded of the dragon battleaxe.

The edits I have done are: Resized the picture from 43x37 to 37x37 and made the background transparent.

Am I allowed to replace your picture with this edited one? 1solidsnake2 15:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

(Edit: Oops, forgot to sign. 1solidsnake2 15:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC))

Deathclock thingy
take it down,


 * 1) it is scary.


 * 1) it is irregular.

03:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) it is just plain stupid.