RuneScape:Requests for adminship

Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which the users of the RuneScape Wiki decide who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops), who are users with access to additional technical features that aid in maintenance. A user either submits his or her own request for adminship (a self-nomination) or is nominated by another user.

About RfA
The community grants administrator status to trusted users, so nominees should have been on the RuneScape Wiki long enough for people to determine whether they are trustworthy.


 * Nomination standards
 * There are no official prerequisites for adminship, other than having an account and having a basic level of trust from other editors and if they can be trusted with administrator tools.


 * Decision process
 * Any user may nominate another user with an account. Self-nominations are permitted. However, if you haven't done much on the wiki, don't expect much support if you self-nominate yourself. The numbers of people supporting, opposing, or expressing another opinion on a candidacy are the main factor in determining whether or not the user will become an admin. Requests will be held for two weeks before a final decision is made. Once this time is up, a bureaucrat will decide whether to make the user an admin or not. In most cases, bureaucrats may only be recommended by other bureaucrats. Because it is good to have a stable amount of active bureaucrats, nominations will be made when one bureaucrat becomes much less active on the wiki.


 * Expressing opinions
 * Any user with an account is welcome to comment in the Support, Oppose and Neutral sections. The candidate may respond to the comments of others. Try to explain your opinion by including a short explanation of your reasoning.

Nominating
Nominations must be accepted by the user in question. If you wish to nominate a user, make sure you let the user know on their talk page.

All nominations should be posted at bottom of this page. Not at top.

What can admins do?
See RuneScape:Administrators

What can I do to help?
To improve your chances of becoming an admin, you should should do some or all of the following as a normal user:


 * Watch Special:Recentchanges and help to revert vandalism even before you're an admin
 * Just because you don't have the [rollback ] feature doesn't mean you can't change vandalized pages back to what they were before. Any "new" pages that you can't delete yourself, just put the speedy deletion template at the top of the page. An admin will see this in Category:Speedy deletion candidates and delete it. This is the primary reason why this wiki needs admins - fighting vandalism and acting as a volunteer to keep this wiki clean, readable, and accurate.


 * Create good content
 * Attempting rewrites of large articles will greatly help your chances of being recommended/accepted, as this is more noticeable in some ways than lots of minor edits to lots of small articles. Where the wiki wins over other sites is our ability to get information out fast simply because everyone has editorial control, even unlogged users. Help write the brand new updates - if someone else is writing the quest guide, make your own notes but start creating the sub-page articles ready to be blue-linked already.


 * Be part of the community
 * Welcome new editors on their talk page and guide them in the right direction. Talk to other editors, engage in the forums and generally show your face around.


 * All decisions should be democratic
 * Regardless of who is suggesting something, whether they be a normal user, an admin, or a bureaucrat, all votes should be counted equal. If you are in the minority on an issue over a certain article, be prepared to back down. Be mature about it. See Runescape:All editors are equal.

Blankothe3rd
Yes, I feel foolish for self nominating myself right after I failed to become an admin. I feel that I made enough edits to think I can be confident enough to nominate myself. I have made an impressive 619 overall edits. Although I'll expect to get many opposes I just feel confident enough to vote myself a Neutral. Blankothe3rd 00:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I admire all people who have the confidence to self-nominate. I would never. But, I will ask you, do you feel that if you are an admin you will push harder, stay the same, or just forget you are one? Until the question comes answered, Neutral. 02:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I will push harder, as you see. I've done good as a regular user and have reverted many edits by Buck Nell and I Love Sodomy. Reverting bad or unuseful and Blocking abusive users will be my main priorty if I ever get to become a admin. I do my best to revert even as a regular account. Although staying a non-sysop would be O.K. Becoming a sysop would help me delete un-needed pages. Whenever I see a bad edit, I do my best to remove it. If a User commits Vandalism, I shall warn them, then block them. Until then, I'll do my best as a non-sysop. Blankothe3rd 03:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You seem to be headed in the right direction. You have my Support until further notice 11:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Syugecin

 * Support - 19
 * Oppose - 3
 * Neutral/Pending - 5

I nominate Syugecin because he helps me with my page and also has lots of knowledge about Runescape. It would be an honor to add him to the team. GO SYUGECIN!!!!!!!!!!
 * Hey! Thanks! Who is that above? They forgot to sign.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.... [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 16:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I want to support this user because he has helped me on RS a lot. :)Runescapehelperperson 16:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For everyone out there... I just read at the top that being nominated by a more well how to put this... active user gives you better chances. No offense to Quilw but he isn't well known so I don't think I have much of a chance. Sysops, delete this if necessary. But everyone! feel free to vote! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 22:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Forget it. Kill what I said. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I shouldn't have said that. My bad. I forgot the all users equal thing. Sorry everyone! [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I am all for syugecin. He is kind, friendly, always ready to lend a

hand when you ask him to, and very knowlageable about

RuneScape. He is one of the few future admins who understand their

true duty. SYUGECIN ALL THE WAY!!! Codenametiger talk 01:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Neutral 18:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. 769 edits, but 446 of them are in forums (123), userpages (206), and user talk (117). How did you get 206 user page edits anyway? He has 256 mainspace edits, if anyone was wondering. A couple image, template, project pages.
 * Support Syugecin FTW. Plain and simple. A vote for Syugecin will save 1 puppy from being eaten by George Bush! 01:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :D [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks to that IP too? Are you a user? Because you aren't logged in. :P [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh ya, and to that IP Address, I'm not an admin yet :P That's why we're voting. so your statement is incorrect. [[Image:Dragon_scimitar.png]] Syugecin talk [[Image:Fire_Rune.PNG|28px]] 01:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you show me one edit that you feel is a good example of the work you do on the wiki? It will influence my decision. --Wowbagger421 01:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SupportHmmm....He looks pretty worthy in being a admin. Support it is!}01:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I've seen some of Syugecin's work on the wiki and i think he is a perfect candidate for the job. Armyleader36 13:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. He is a nice person. Talk-to Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 46)  20:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

After discussion, my vote is now Neutral. 22:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Tentative Support. I would love to see you attempt a rewrite of a "large" article not just making small edits here and there.  You're fairly low combat, so help us out with some of the quests, the work you did on Death Plateau (quest) was good, we need more of that and some pics to go with it!  Right now my feeling is "I don't see any reason why not", I'm more than happy to change this to a total support if you can demonstrate that you're brave enough to attempt large articles - part of being a sysop is following the style guide etc, and being able to point other users in the right direction.  And giving them free-rein when they look like they're coming up with good stuff. --Eucarya Talk 22:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support, per Eucarya. 23:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. 23:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Look what I found, quite sad....

" ==VFA== COuld you vote for me in the votes for adminship? Vote something oppose or support. It doesn't matter just please put something.  <font color="NAVY">Syugecin   15:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)"


 * If you ask, thats a no. 02:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow Dread, that's pretty harsh. All he asks for is your opinion and you call that begging for votes?  Yikes, you run a tight ship.  So much for an open-communication community.

EDIT: Looki here. http://www.wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaRUNESCAPE.htm 230 edits or so in 60 days. I don't think we should admin people that have low amts. of edits and might go inactive, kinda like me. 02:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not enough edits I'm afraid. Chaoticar 03:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose. You haven't been here for long. You haven't made many edits. I think that this wiki is getting too much people who don't understand anything. Total Rune and Cashman support like everyone because theyre nice persons. If more people like that come here then like every 2 days ago arrived noobs will get 10 pointless supports. If that happens, anybody can become a admin! (We should avoid that!) <- If that hurt you, sorry. Changed to neutral later. 05:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)#

support A great person, and although he hasn't been with us all for long, I still think he deserves recgonition, great rune shop btw. ;-) 13:21 gmt 27th April

100% support Tesfan 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeeeeeeeeeep Whoops... I wanted to see how mad he got. *War chant* And I am Ryugecin I just don't know the pass. >=( Ryugecin(2) 03:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Um... I think that you are inpersonating my brother. He is Ryugecin. Maybe you should reconsider your name. And I don't think I suck or destroy the wiki. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 14:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Support nice guy however hasn't made alot of edits. And be nice guys we don't want to start an argument. --Whiplash 13:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Support Just like we all should, he tries his hardest, and is very contructive!
 * I really haven't seen many major edits from him, and I think we have enough sysops as it is at the moment. 23:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see... But try Air running Wowbagger and Clv. That's my big rewrite . Also this is getting a bit long =/ <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * Have we reached a verdict? Because this is slowing down my computer... =/ <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * Support: I see a lot of you on RC. 02:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Extremely Strong support Syu's got the persona, the ability and the qualifications to be a great admin.
 * Support: I have not been here that long but he seems to be a overall good user, asuming he is a he. Syugecin has been active everyday i have been here.  he is kind and appears to be a far person.  [[Image:Earth Strike icon.png]] John E blaberingTh Shop 18:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - The rest of the world is moving ahead of me, I might as well pull up and forget it. You know what I'm talking about, Syucegin. Anyways,I think you deserve it. 19:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I change my vote to Neutral. (Don't ask reason, you all know it.) 13:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. That's the kind of people for which you should be looking for! He would make a great admin. <font style="background:black"> [[Image:Dragon square shield.png|24px]]  Spitfire  talk  19:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Soft Support. I think that you have the right personality and leadership skills for this, but I do think you could try to be more understanding and less controlling. You could improve as a leader if you tried to be open to criticism and suggestions from subordinates. I do believe that you make good contributions to the wiki and try to help others, especially new users, as much as you can. 02:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

1 googolplex% Support Ryugecin(2) 12:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC) <Font color="RED"> Go SYUGECIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dtm142
Current votes:


 * Support-13
 * Oppose-1
 * Neutral-0

I have written many of our quest guides including Recipe for Disaster, Regicide, Mourning's Ends Part 1 and 2. I was also the original creator of RuneScape:Userboxes and have created several of the most popular ones including Template:User member, the original versions of Template:User rare, Template:User guild, and Template:User free player. I was the user of the month for April 2007.

P.S. I know that I'm not supposed to nominate myself because of the new rules, but I have done so anyway as per RuneScape:All editors are equal, WP:IAR, and my comments on the talk page. Dtm142 23:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Dtm has written over 100 quest guides, most of which have probably been used by all of you at one time or another. His guides are detailed, accurate, and he devotes his time and efforts into them. Over 900 total edits, nearly 650 mainspace. He even won user of the month for April 2007 for his hard work! 23:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated yourself Chia. o_O 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Somewhat support I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides. However I haven't actually seen you do alot of reverting or reporting vandalism mabey I just haven't look hard enough but I don't think il let that get in the way. :) --Whiplash 13:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with whiplash when he says "I think your a very trustworthy user and did alot of great work on the quest guides". And, i think that if your good enough to be a user of the month, your good enough to be an admin. Tesfan 15:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the nominating-yourself policy is bogus anyway, it's there to stop people who clearly won't get sysop from wasting space. DTM is clearly eligible for sysop.  Let's try actually looking at users, Chia, instead of basing our decisions on edit counts and silly rules.  If no one nominates a user like DTM, that's our fault as a community, not his fault as a user.
 * I agree with Endasil on that point I find that oh you cant become a sysop because you nominated yourself bullshit. The guideline should be changed. --Whiplash 18:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Good editor, made edits to several policy pages. Also Chia the self-nominating rule is currently being debated, so should be considered null (until a decision is made). Chaoticar 01:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Whiplash...you swore! An admin used strong language! The apocalype is here! Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! And Support. If he was a user of the month, he should definetely become a sysop. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  15:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Support. Good editor. Seems reasonably trustworthy. The only minor point is the self nomination, where it would only have taken a simple message to any of the wiki community to write a nomination. I would have written one. --Miw 12:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support and support again. I was thinking to nominate Dtm142 too, should have just asked. 14:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Asking someone to nominate you is essentially the same as nominating yourself in my opinion, so I decided to skip that step and just go for it. Who the nominator is doesn't matter to me.  Who the nominee is matters.  Thank you for the support to everyone who commented so far. Dtm142 22:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support: Personally, the "can't nominate yourself" thing is a bad idea for RfA. I like it for "featured editors" - cause it makes sense - but if you want admin powers, you ask and the community votes. Nominations should only add credibility, not be a requirement. Nonetheless, again, I support. Oddlyoko 23:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - great content creator! --Eucarya Talk 07:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

He isn't an admin? OMG. Support <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 11:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC) Support I've used many of his quest guides and found them very helpful. 02:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Whole-hearted support. 19:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe! I'm the only one who is opposing... 20:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * w00t?... Dtm142 20:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Notice of Intent: Dtm142 will be sysoped on May 21st 2007 unless there is objection now. --Whiplash 10:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. The only person objecting is Chiafriend, who doesn't really have a good reason for opposing anyways.  You can't use "you can't nominate yourself", you need something more concrete than that.  I don't like the self-nominating stuff much, but it's not against rules (although the rules keeps changing) so either change your vote or come up with a better reason.   18:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * COMMENT: At the time it was a rule, so don't be all playah' haten' on me for trying to remind rules that were around at the time. And if I have to have a reason for opposing then everyone should have a reason for supporting. 23:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We don't hate you (well, I don't at least). And yes, everyone who does oppose an RFA should have a good reason.  The self nominating rule has since been defeated soundly and later abolished. Dtm142 02:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Gangsterls

 * Support - 5
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 1

Well...along the lines of self-nomination, I may as well try it out. I don't know exact numbers, but I think I'm over 1200 total contributions, with over 800 in the mainspace. And, of course, Support. 23:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose because you can't nominate youself. 04:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You nominated youself Chia. O_o 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Chia thats not a good reason you always have a reason to oppose almost every nomination. I Support Gangsterls because he has contacted me ingame several times to report vandalism so I think he's well suited for this job. --Whiplash 13:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you could make a few improvements as a user, including making sure of the correct spelling before correcting others' spelling, but this is not really related to sysop. I think you have the maturity to be a good sysop, just make sure you always evaluate a situation before making an action.

Yes, I nominated myself, but after my sysopification (that isn't a word is it?) someone (was it Whiplash? Vimes?) declared that users can't be sysoped when they nominate themselves. I'm only opposing because of that. If I read it wrong and can prove that it says something else, then I'll change my oppose to a pending. But still oppose. 17:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. Lots of good edits. If you'd asked, I probably would have nominated you myself. --Wowbagger421 17:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nobody ever deemed you couldn't. --Whiplash 18:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. I don't know what to think of you. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  15:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Constant Editor <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs


 * Support. Omg, you're in the same class as me. 50 less edits than me. 5 days less here than me. And already I'm supporting you? (I mean that if he can be supported, can I be supported too?) 14:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Strng Support we need more in the wiki like you.

Stinkowing
Current votes


 * Support - 2
 * Oppose - 1
 * Neutral - 1

I'm not sure if I'd make a good sysop...but I'm not letting that stop me from trying! I'm not as well known as Chia or Whiplash, but I'm still active (in fact, I'm planning for another Wiki-meetup soon...), and I've mainly gotten into editing my userpage and subpages, but I still make fairly decent edits to the mainspace. Though I got a bit ticked off at Total Rune's brother (for spamming about MoparScape) and the recent vandal from my school) I can still keep my cool. I will admit, though, that I am a bit nervous doing this...maybe it's because of the self-nominating thing that I'm so confused about.
 * Oppose No self nominating. 00:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you read the conversation on the RFA talk page, you would know what's going on with that. 00:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I did. They're talking about getting rid of that self-nominating rule (that's what I interprit anyway).I don't quite understand it, though. Besides, Chia did his this way too.
 * Oppose x2 I don't care how Chia did it. He cheated. You phail. 00:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A bit angry, are we?
 * God Dammit! 4 edit conflicts. Ok, I was saying... Not you stinkowing, I was talking to total rune. 00:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose x3 If at first you don't succeed, YOU PHAIL. =D 00:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Will you shut the hell up? Just because you didn't make it doesn't mean that you can intimidate other people and bother them. I suggest you calm down and sip some tea. If that doesn't help, just take a week or 2 away from the wiki. 00:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Who's saying I haven't made it? 00:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * *sigh* ... Whatever. 00:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * With an additude like that, Total, you DEFINITLEY won't make it. I mean no offence, but you are one heck of an angry mastodon.
 * You really think I give 2 sh*ts whether I make it or not? Hell no. 00:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

OMG. Isn't this a voting zone? Not an argue zone? Anyway Support <font color="NAVY">Syugecin <font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs
 * I'm not 'upposed ta eat da legos..... =( 00:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And that has to do with what, now? (BTW, even if you WERE supposed to eat the Legos, they'd tear up your stomach...
 * Okey-dokey then.... <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs and I eat legos too
 * Look! There's Syugecin! *waves* HI SYUGECIN! 00:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Woah, this is really delayed, but the no-self-nominating-rule-thing wasn't created until after I was sysoped. 02:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. You are well-known to me! :) And total rune...you are just asking to get a month's block off the wiki. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  16:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral. No reason. ^^ 14:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC) Support.--15:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Malestro (2)
My Edit Count Note:Chia Changed from neutral to support farther in the votes Yep I'm going to try again. I have been working hard to improve this wiki. Although my main edits are not over 500 I am constantly monitoring, chatting and participating for the wiki. I will soon reach over 500 edits, but going over 500 when you have nothing actually good to contribute would be bad, so I'll wait till something that needs my editing to come along. I'm EXTREMELY active. 14:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral-3
 * Supports-7
 * Against-2
 * Neutral, no reason. 14:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral, I have to side with Chia on this one. --Whiplash 15:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also neutral. Certainly not opposed though. 01:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I did major revisions on Emote Article and Emote Enhancers article. I've done revisions on Royal Trouble, Fishing contest, and always monitoring. Please consider my activity since I joined.  I've worked hard for this...  But it's not my decision.  Atleast its not opposes.. :D15:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Soft Oppose It's true, you do a good job here, and I don't really care about the number of edits a person makes, but I'm a little against the self-nominating idea (yes I know it's allowed) for one big reason: who's to say you'll keep editing once you've made this position for yourself?  Many want the title of Administrator just for the sake of having the "title", so once you become an admin, what are you going to do?  And why do you want to become an Administrator?  Convince me that you "deserve" it or that you would do a good job, and give me a reason why you want it.  Who knows, you may change my vote.  16:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How dare you judge me like that. I want this title TO HELP.  I would never take advantage of it, and I know what being an admin is about...  I help run 3 sites!  I'm on runescape and wiki more then most of these people.  I can't believe you would say something like that!  I do all the work I can and it isn't  enough.  You think I'm just gonna say hey I'm an admin and hop offline? You didn't say that about others I bet.  Well listen up... I'd develop systems, I'd  BECOME MORE ACTIVE NOT LESS.  If you don't like me then be that way.  Because this doesn't sound like a fair vote to me!  I understood when Emos opposed me.  I'm not being rude either.  Here's my point: THAT WASN'T A VOTE THAT WAS CRITICISM!16:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I worked too hard for people to criticize me. Sorry for being harsh, but criticism was all it was.  this is why I deserve it.  I'm active on here AND THE GAME!  I am an admin on 3 other sites and I know how things are run.  I know all the rules, I participate in discussions, I vote in simple polls I read and update the news IF I need to.  I keep newbies updated.  If you look at everything I do and say I don't deserve it, I don't know how its possible to make 'the cut'.  :\17:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, until that I would have given you a Neutral, but that's a definite OPPOSE . I will never vote for anyone who can't take criticism.  Further, I won't vote for anyone who can't even read the post he's replying to.  Tirrian was looking for your motives, not judging you.  Take a seat, son, you have too much of a temper.
 * Though I haven't looked enough to give a support, I understand your misunderstanding and withdraw my oppose; I will remain Neutral for now. But I still object to the statement "I worked too hard for people to criticize me": learning from criticism is one of the key things that makes a leader effective, so get used to it.
 * Support, some good work on recent updates, and shows some willingness to help revert/etc. --Eucarya Talk 19:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support -- You deserve it and you've been here a while. 20:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Criticism I can take, and I did appologize to him on his talk page. What I mean was it sounded like he was accusing me.
 * I read the apology, no problem, sorry you misunderstood me. I think you would be a good administrator, but I want to know why you want to be one and what the difference would be.  Would anything change because you are an administrator?  The real question is WHY?  If you are going to self-nominate yourself, tell me why, not just the fact that you're qualified.  22:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Since you seem worthy I say soft support. 23:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Light Oppose: I'm sorry, but I'm inclined to agree with Tirrian. And I know you do a good job, but maybe you should try, um, again in a month. And, to remind you, sysops can do very little more than a normal user. In general, we edit just the same as you. While it IS handy to have sysops for vandals... Another thing. You're admin on three websites? OK, I've been there too, and I think that's far too much responsibility. It also ties you down to the computer far too much, which can be unhealthy... You're doing a good job on the wiki as it is. Right now, we don't have much need for so many admins, either. So, nothing against you, but I have to say, a very light Oppose, like Tirrian. Oddlyoko talk 00:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I got a b'crat vote so I know my worth. :\  Anyway here's how it goes.  I've got my life based on computer.. been that way for years, and it will never stop.  If Eucarya says I'm worthy that makes me happy...  And odd.  Have you even been here.  No offense but I believe activity is an issue with you...  Im on and its 3 AM!  :\ e
 * Support. 01:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Chia Mark out your old vote! :D
 * Sorry, you haven't convinced me yet. Admin and b'crats are not "Ranks".  So "I got a b'crat vote so I know my worth" doesn't mean a thing.  More and more of your comments are telling me that I made a good decision in opposing, so I will continue to do so.  Just keep editing well, like you've been doing, don't worry about the "Prestige" of Adminship.   14:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Me is ready to support!
 * Support. 02:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support good job. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 02:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Whats the two there for? 13:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I know. 14:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Cashman286 (2)
Current Votes
 * Support - 4
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral - 0

Gulp...I'm going to nominate myself. I have a very unimpressive 42 mainspace edits, but I have 210+ forum edits. Perhaps I can be a forum sysop? I know that some of you are prejudiced against people who nominate themselves...but I (kind of) have confidence that some of you would support me. this has been on my mind since last month, and I was going to nominate myself at the end of May, or the start of June, but the temptation took the best of me, and well, I self-nominated. If this doesn't go well, I will nominate myself again in a little while, like sometime in June. Well, *gulp* I hope I get lucky! <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  01:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Only chia follows the self nomination philosophy. As for me... Support! 01:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I stand strong with my vote.01:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And you are...? <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  01:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Poo I'm not logged in.. its malestro.


 * Sorry I fixed 01:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support as a forum sysop. I think you would be good. But I don't think normal sysop powers should be registered for awhile. So if forum only powers are given then i support as above. Self-nominating doesn't bother me. But I think you might be struck down by a few people. 01:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. --Wowbagger421 01:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Not enough useful contributions, and a self-nom in this case didn't help much. You can't just have sysop powers on the forums, the forums here don't run like those on a normal fansite - they're woven right into the Wiki. In my opinion, someone with a bit of a different attitude would be nice.  Maybe another time.  01:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. On another note, unless we move the forums offsite, it is impossible to be only a forum mod. Also, from now on, I will be basing my votes on the new rules I suggested on the talk page 01:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think he's aware that the forums are not separate but rather part of the wiki and that sysop powers apply there too. What he probably meant was to help out with archiving forums and deleting unused forums... etc. 01:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Yay! I created a debate! =D Too bad half the votes are opposed. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  10:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

By the way, don't be hatin' on da cash man! <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  11:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. I know Cashman in real life and he is responsible enough and does edit. >>><Font color="green">Deadalive302, <Font color="red">(level=37)talk  14:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Most admin have had over 500 edits before they became a admin. I do think that, if the forums were moved off-site, then you would make a great forum mod. Tesfan 18:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Moogel
I want to try to become an administrator, because in the past few days i have been doing nothing but helping out articles by pressing the random page button and see if anythng needs to be done. Hobbit Lover Hiscores 22:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Current Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 5
 * Neutral - 2


 * heh. me 2. Neutral <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 00:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Only 59 mainspace edits. Tesfan 12:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Per above. 12:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Per above. 13:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutral 20:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * NOTE: Only registered users can vote. :( 23:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I edited the tally to not count the Ip dude to make it fair. Hobbit Lover Hiscores 22:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose: As I wrote on your talk page (which you chose to ignore), "Edits like this should be marked as minor, and as they don't even change the look of the actual page, I highly doubt they are even necessary. Methinks you're just trying to get your edit count up. Stop." You're just trying to raise your edit count and the fact that you're doing it in that way is utterly annoying. Don't try to fool the wiki. 22:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not and remember the article of | assume good faith, sacre fi always mentions? Well i was trying to make the category thingy move down to make it look less cramped. Hobbit Lover Hiscores 22:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to say that I am NEUTRAL in this request. 02:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Extreme oppose after last night's edit war I say a definate no. --Whiplash 13:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do feel the need to bump my vote up to an EXTREME oppose per what Whiplash said. The minor edits do not bother me so much now, but that is NO WAY FOR A SYSOP TO ACT. [[Image:Adamant_crossbow.png‎|18px]]<font color=lightslateblue>Christine [[Image:rune_defender.png|18px]].:Super:..:Spunky:. 13:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What was the edit war? I changing my vote to mild oppose 14:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Mr Pker
I want to be an admin because I have removed a few vandals posts and warned them on their talk pages, like the ip address that signed as xx echo x3 or something like that. I am really active on the forums and I like welcoming new users to the wiki. i like cleaning after the vandals like a janitor. Please vote for friendly neighborhood Mr Pker =). Please vote for me to be a forum admin at least.

Current Votes
 * Support - 0
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral - 0


 * I must say... Hesitant Oppose. You aren't well known. Plus, I figured out that there is no such thing as only a forum sysop... =/ <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs 01:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * NEUTRAL - You aren't well known, and there isn't currently no such thing as forum sysop, but there may be eventually. 02:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

OpposeI do think you would make a good forum mod. As for a admin... well, youve only made 2 mainspace edits. Tesfan 12:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Per above. 12:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Per above. 13:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Per above. 14:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Sacre Fi
Rationale:

Why do we need another bureaucrat? Vimescarrot and Eucarya have both announced their intentions to take a step back from the Wiki. With the loss of activity from these two, we lost two of the most influential voices on the Wiki. You can toss around the "all editors are equal" policy around as much as you want, but that will not negate the fact that people listen to bureaucrats more than others. Why? Because bureaucrats have more experience and are clearly more trusted by the community as a whole.

I have noticed that as a community, we have been reduced to a group of bickering editors, with people turning a community-based project into an arena for personal attacks and unrelated banter. I believe another active bureaucrat, complementing Whiplash's recent promotion, will help bring some focus back to the Wiki.

Why Sacre Fi? Sacre Fi has gained respect within the community as evidenced by his recent promotion to sysop. People use adjectives like "helpful" and "guiding" when describing Sacre. Even more important, Sacre has proven himself able to keep his head in absolutely every situation. While most editors despise and try to ban those who vandalize, Sacre will presume innocence and actually invite those very people to join the community in a meaningful way. On top of all this, Sacre is very well-spoken and clear. I trust his judgment more than anyone else on the Wiki, and believe that he has every ability to perform the highest level duties.

If Sacre Fi accepts this nomination, I open the door for discussion.


 * Well, people keep forgetting my nomination as a vote, so formally I say support.

Current Votes
 * Support - 9
 * Oppose - 4
 * Neutral - 0

I accept! :) 03:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I Oppose - Three reasons:


 * 1) I've been here longer than Sacre, and I don't think I've been here long enough.
 * 2) Whip was just b'cratted, I think we should have some down time before 'cratting somone else.
 * 3) I think that we don't need any more b'crats.
 * 03:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to argue, but:
 * 1) Time doesn't exactly make the editor; it really depends on the trustworthiness and responsibility of the editor (neither are qualities I hold). =0
 * 2) Would it make any difference if a person was elected to bureaucrat a month after another instead of a week?
 * 3) Um... =\
 * 04:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No offense but after Whip's 'cratting I don't think we need another 'crat. Chaoticar 08:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. We only have one really active crat, and you're saying we have too many? Hmm. I've been gone too long to comment, but Sacre certainly seemed like an ideal candidate for cratship. (Note: I'm assuming Hyenaste is still barely semi-active and that Eucarya realy is stepping back.) JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot  09:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I say Support until otherwise noted. <font color="NAVY">Syugecin [[Image:Dragon_halberd.png]]<font color="RED">talk<font color="RED">contribs


 * I really Support Sacre! Go! Go! Go! Go! 12:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Slightly sad support - I guess I will spend my days as a lowly admin. Sacre is great at convincing vandals to act nice, and he deserves this. 12:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support great intelligent user. --Whiplash 14:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Just be happy you are an admin, and Support. You are worthy of the power. <Font color="gold">Talk-to <Font color="gold">Cashman286 <Font color="red">(Level 48)  22:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support. If my being the first - or the second, not sure if X1101 or whatever the numbers where was one before me - b'crat makes any difference, I say Sacre deseves it. I see him (her?) talked about as a good person with good edits, which rules out your reason 1 for opposing - whatever else you might say, Sacre! - and I think we could use another b'crat. Considering Vimes and Eucarya are supposedly stepping back a bit - them being great editors, that will be a sore loss - we could use Sacre Fi. :) Oddlyoko 23:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to be stubborn (even though I am) but this supports my reason #3 even more. Oddlyoko came back so we have another crat. 23:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Chia, could you just this one time justify yourself? I mean, you object on these grounds but don't say why.  Why do we not need another bureaucrat?  I have fully justified my reasons for believing we need another bureaucrat, what is your justification?
 * We have 3.5 b'crats here. Oddlyoko, Whip, Hyenaste, and Eucarya (but I heard he's leaving so that's a 0.5). 3 people alone can handle sysoping people and every other b'crat thing. Everyone has their own opinion, and with frredom of speach I can say my opinion. We have like 25 editors here (not including forum only editors), so with 3 active b'crats that's 12% of this wiki being a b'crat. With Sacre being b'cratted, that'd make it 17%. It would go from about 1/10 to 1/5.
 * It's not that I don't like Sacre, he is a swell man and editor, but I just think we have enough b'crats. And with freedom of speach and vote I can say my opinion and vote accordingly to my opinion. 14:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not mistake my call for justification as an attack on your rights Chia. I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion.  On the contrary, I was trying to see if there was a reason behind that opinion, and you have given it.  Just because someone asks you to justify yourself does not mean they don't respect your opinion. Usually it's the opposite, they respect your opinion enough to try to make an effort to see your point of view.  So cut it out with this "I'm allowed to disagree cause it's my right" crap.  And I do appreciate that you have stated your reasons for that opinion, don't get me wrong.
 * Support I've been impressed with everything that Sacre Fi does, and although some think we have too many b'crats, why not have another?  What would it hurt?  Sacre Fi certainly qualifies in many ways, would do a good job, and so far I haven't heard a strong enough reason why he should NOT become a b'crat.  It wouldn't bother me one bit.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I just don't necessarily agree with some of those opinions.  16:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- I'm sorry, you're a great editor and all but Oddlyoko just returned and Whiplash was cratted over the weekend. Do we really need 7 crats, 6 of which are active? I think we have enough. 22:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Support - I recently sent my RFA on a crash collision into Opposed-ness....and I've made amends with everyone.....and ever since I swirlied my brother and came to the wiki, Sacre Fi was there....through thick and thin, he was there. Sacre, this Support is for you man, you're the bomb. 22:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I just realized that I can connect to Mega on what he said... 22:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Note:Bureaucrats are, according to the above rules, supposed to be nominated by Bureaucrats, not Admins or ordinary Users. Chaoticar 08:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that mean that we have to stop this? <:O 14:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No. --Whiplash 15:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice try. First, it says "in most cases", which really doesn't mean much, and second, two bureaucrats have already given their support so it really doesn't matter who initiated the nomination.
 * What do you mean 'nice try'? I was just pointing it out. Just because I point out a fact, doesn't mean I'm attempting to derail his Nomination or something. Chaoticar 04:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreeing with Endasil here, but without the "nice try". Oddlyoko talk 04:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, my "nice try" was directed to Chia, whose post I was responding to. It looked like he was going to try to take the easy way to a failed nomination.  The point was valid and I'm glad you brought it up.  While I'm responding, I've noticed that everyone who has opposed so far has only opposed on the grounds that there are too many 'crats already.  If this were not the case, and you agreed that we needed another bureaucrat, could you shed some light on your opinion of Sacre as the next 'crat?
 * With the surge in RFA I can assume taht some people just think this would go along the lines of an adminship request. However, a crat is a much more complicated thing. My vote still remains Oppose - All to respect. 20:59, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope this doesn't hurt Sacre's feelings (it's not supposed to), but I think some more experienced admins should become a b'crat for having more experience. 14:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No offense taken. :) What experience might I be missing? The amount of time spent here? 19:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Weak yet still Oppose-Like chia said, Whiplash has just became a beauracrat, and I trust strongly in whiplash. Creating more and more of these will just be a swarm of flies and not as important.  Vimescarrot has left, and all... But I believe Whiplash can handle it.  Sacrefi would be a great addition to the Beaurecrats, but NOT NOW.  Also to edit well you need to play well, and Sacrefi has a lack of activity on the game.  He would just be a voice, and not that much of an editor. 14:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I really hate to keep having to explain this to you guys. Being a bureaucrat has absolutely NOTHING to do with your ability to edit articles.  You have full control over article editing WITHOUT bureaucrat, so how come people coming back to that as a basis for arguing admin/cratship?  In my opinion, you could fulfill the duties of bureaucrat having never even played Runescape.
 * To what Chia said: I think we should leave it this way for now. 02:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Support. It is always good to have a crat with the right attitude and commitment to serving the wiki audience and contributors. Vimes Sacre Fi is a good candidate in my opinion. I really dont see a problem with having a slightly higher number of crats. Unless they start fighting amongst eachother, which seems completely unlikely. Hence my support. --Miw 20:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, this nomination is for Sacre Fi, not Vimescarrot. Maybe I misunderstood your statement, I just want to make sure you are voting for the person you think you are :)
 * Oops my bad. Of course i support Sacre Fi, and this does not mean anything negative towards either Vimes nor Sacre Fi. --Miw 18:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Theres only 4 b'crats... soooo.... Support.