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Ok, I've been helping out around here, every so often, and I'd like to state for the record, that as per the above discussion about vandals, none were me. Plain and simple, I've been too busy with work to bother with you guys, not that I'd vandalize anyway; I've given that life up. I no longer want to be the guy everyone hates/the infamous legend/etc. I still to this day browse this wikia and whenever I see something being vandalized, or any personal images (a good example of personal images was earlier today, I used this IP to add deletion tags to several personal images), I tend to go and fix it.

Let's face it, I've had a troubled past. Despite that, I've managed to put that behind me, and continue to (discreetly) help out around here. I'm addicted to Wikipedia/Wikia. I love the way it works, and I'm looking into a way to incorporate MediaWiki into my website so I can do a biography/account log type page, logging all my accounts on forums, games, etc.

I've strayed away from my original reason for posting this. I'd like to formally apologize, once and for all, for everything I've done. I know I've apologized in the past and then strayed back to the dark side, so to speak, but I'll be honest. Blanko's been behind it. I've got him on my MSN and lately he's been coming on and prodding at me, trying to get me to back and vandalize again. Also, Totalicus Rune was not me, rather, it was some fool trying to pose as me.

I'd really love to rejoin this community, either under my previous moniker, [[User:Total Rune|Total Rune]], or under a new one, but I feel some of our older, more seasoned members would still hold a grudge against me. Wowbagger, I want to apologize for being a jerk towards you as well, but to be fair, most of the time, you had it coming with your attitude and ego. I especially owe Christine an apology. Christine, I've lost a fair share of friends in the past, due to my actions, some being due to my drinking problem, which I am currently battling. Out of all the friends I've lost, I miss you the most. I apologize for talking Speckle into bugging you. That was wrong of me. I'd also like to apologize for many of the lewd, and rude things I've said to you. That's not me. That's not me at all...I'm not that kind of person.

RuneScape Wikia, I bid you good day. I have to work in the morning and I need some sleep. Total Rune04:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'm willing to give you a second chance; I can't speak for the rest of the community, however. Rollback crownearth(t)
I'll be 100% honest with you guys. I really don't expect anyone to be forgiving towards me, after all the stupid sh..er...crap I pulled. My life was just in a rut and I was taking it out on those who aggravated me in the slightest. I'm trying to get my life back together. As of today I'm quitting smoking and I'm gonna cut back on my drinking as well. I'm trying to change my life for the better, and I wanted to start by apologizing to those who I aggravated for so long. 70.49.204.107 04:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this serious? A second chance? Please tell me I am dreaming. This is a person who not only is a vandal, but a pest, and constant annoyance to this and many other wikis including the Oddssey wiki, that he started and then vandalized, Wikipedia, which he told everyone he was committing suicide, and then they (wikipedia) called the cops on him. Do we really need to give him a second chance? I am not be the person responsible for his well being if we let him back. I think every ip he uses should be blocked. [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 14:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I never knew you, Total Rune, but I'd be willing to give you one more chance. If you become a vandal again and ask for another chance later, you won't get one. User:C Teng/sig 14:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Comment Here is an exmaple of Total's contributions to wikipedia [1] [2]

(For those of you who dont know him) [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 15:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I know of him, who hasn't? I just mean I wasn't in the wiki then. User:C Teng/sig 17:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
As for the suicidal threats, it would be best for Total to explain those actions before we make any judgments (I'm admittedly cautious myself). Rollback crownearth(t)
I can and will explain those actions. Believe it or not, I was being e-stalked by an angry Wikipedia vandal. He followed me around to different sites I was a member of (my fault, I had them listed on my userpage). Finally, I did the only thing I could, which turned out to be the wrong thing and posted a fake suicide note to get him off my back. He made emails like tylerwarrenchugscock@yahoo.com, and others, which I had deleted. One day the police showed up at my door. I had to explain the situation to them. I gave them the guys IP address and they assured me they'd be watching him. I apologized for the note on a new account. I recently tried to appeal the perma-ban on Vampire Warrior however some people had some other opinions on that and I failed in my appeal. I'm finished with Wikipedia now, although I still make some IP-based edits to the Marineland (Ontario) article and about the rides at Marineland (I work there, so I can supply the article with info). I realize you're all wary about trusting me, but I've been reconciling with others recently. I was just re-accepted back into a suicidal help group on IMVU, and promoted to an officer (kinda like a sysop) by the groups owner. I want to change my image in your eyes from a no-good vandal to a trustworthy friend. I've made mistakes, we all have, and I regret each and every one of them. 70.49.204.107 19:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, I'd ask that you take Atlandy's comments lightly as we have a bit of a grudge. As for the Odyssey Online Wiki, I DID NOT vandalize it to be a vandal. I actually play the game (www.odysseyclassic.com). I created the Wikia, and then upon advertising it to the people of Odyssey, I had nearly every player tell me that they didn't need a Wikia because a player already made a website chronicling everything. I didn't know how to delete the Wikia, so I started removing pages and blocking users. Angela took that as vandalizing and de-b'cratted me. I swear to god, I've told her 8 times to delete the wiki. For god sakes, that wiki hasn't been edited in nearly a year. She kept telling me "Someone will edit it" and all I have to say to her is "Where's your editors now?". See what happens when people don't listen to me, and just think the worst about me? The community of Ody (Odyssey) wanted the Wikia gone, I tried to do it but didn't know how, and I've suffered for it. 70.49.204.107 19:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I see. Can you provide specific information on your IMVU group? Rollback crownearth(t)
It's not my group, it's run by a friend of mine. She made me an officer, and already today, with her help, I've pruned the topics and deleted alot of them from 2007, and also went through and removed disabled (banned in IMVU terms) users from the group. Here's a link if you go on IMVU. I use my real name as my username on IMVU. http://imvu.com/groups/group/Suicidal/ 70.49.204.107 04:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of his new found faith, He is nothing but a vandal, on numerous sites and forums. He has vandalized here more than anyone, but claims it is always someone else. Total...find a new site to bother, you bore all of us here.[[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 23:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Let me respond to Atlandy's comment, and clear some things up.
  • (A) He has vandalized here more than anyone, but claims it is always someone else
  • (A) Hmm, actually, you're wrong. IP address are the majority of vandalism, and yes, I know where they are coming from. It's called 4Chan people >.>. Also, I do not claim it is anyone else, other than that one time which was my brother who got access to my laptop
  • (B) He is nothing but a vandal on numerous sites and forums
  • (B) And how the hell would you know? You don't keep track of what sites I visit. And besides, I'm not retarded. I don't use Total Rune as a username everywhere. I only used it as a username here.
  • (C) Total...find a new site to bother, you bore all of us here.
  • (C) Since when the hell do you speak for the entire community? You must really have a big ego to be thinking like that. I ain't looking for your charity. I don't even care if I don't get accepted back into the Wikia. I'm just looking for a little forgiveness for my actions. I feel horrible about it all.

Atlandy, in this wiki you are a nobody. You are one of many. I've seen punks like you come and go and one thing never changes. The ego. Lose the ego and maybe, just maybe you'll get somewhere. 70.49.204.107 01:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Atlandy, we can afford to give him another chance. If he breaks his word and vandalizes, we can permanently block him for the last time just like any other vandal and never trust his apologies again. User:C Teng/sig 01:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
If you want community consensus for editing this wiki, the flamewar I see brewing on this page is not a good start towards obtaining my piece of it. Messages to both of you:
    • Atlandy: If you have a personal issue against Total Rune, take it up in private with him, not in a public forum. Only your professional opinion counts here; if you have valid, professional reasons to oppose Total Rune's return to the wiki, then cite them without making personal attacks. You don't improve the situation by calling him out just because you hold a grudge, and as an experienced editor, you really ought to know better.
    • And Total Rune: Atlandy might be stepping out of line by saying the things he is, but you need to not step with him. You're making personal attacks too. Now, I came to the wiki after you left, were blocked, whatever. So I don't know you. But seeing how you respond to these sorts of things is not giving me a good opinion of your character so far. RuneScape wiki does not need editors that keep problems going instead of solving them. If you are not that editor, then demonstrate it, and I'll consider giving my consent towards opening the wiki back to you. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 02:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Andorin, I don't mean to start trouble with you, but a few things;
  • (A) Since when do you have "consent" to re-open the wiki to me? That comment confused me.
  • (B) I've been here alot longer than you, not only on the wiki, but also on RuneScape (I'm an RSC original, created my account the day RS came out, although my stats are low, that's only due to my limited play time due to full-time work), and I'd like to take you on in the Duel Arena sometime. 70.49.204.107 02:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

ATTN: ALL Originally posted: User talk:Dtm142

"Anyway, my stance on the situation is temporarily opposition, because Atlandy brought up a good point: We cannot be held responsible for any harmful action that Total Rune may take in real life. Given his record of a suicidal threat he claimed to be false, he must acknowledge that his action was illegal. While the threat was placed on Wikipedia--not RSW--, the two sites are obviously similar, meaning that a similar event may occur on RSW. Additionally, his YG topic strongly infers he has received "help" from others possibly meaning that if he were to resume editing here, he would behave with a greater degree of civility. We need proof (i.e. a referral from a helper/group member or a very logical, factual, detailed essay) stating Total Rune has in fact gone through a form of treatment and is psychologically stable enough for him to resume editing RSW. The judgment from our community would be most appropriate after he has done the above." Rollback crownearth(t)


  • 1. I was never suicidal. Sure, I've been depressed at times, and it's not my fault. I'm on new ADHD medication and it's increased my depressing thoughts, but I have control over them.
  • 2. I swear to god this is the 3rd time I've said this. I realize the fake suicide note to get rid of the stalker I had (annoyed wikipedia vandal who took it too far and decided to stalk me) was not the best route to take. I explained it all to the NRP (niagara regional police) and the cop who came to my house said he'd watch the guy's activity.
  • 3. I haven't received "professional help" because quite simply, I don't need it. I'm not the type of person who gets depressed and cuts. Whenever I get those depressing thoughts from my meds, I go and have a smoke. However, with my plan to quit smoking, I've had to find new outlets to keep myself busy, one of which was editing this wiki (as evidenced by my contributions). Simple fact is I love wikipedia. It's a great thing and I love the way it works. I am a very civil person, however my past actions were basically due to pent-up frustration because many of the members of this wiki kept poking their noses into my personal life, and finally I had had enough. What I did back then was wrong. That's not who I am. I'm not some ne'er-do-well or miscreant. I'm a legitimately nice guy. Nicest guy you'd ever meet.
  • 4 While the threat was placed on Wikipedia--not RSW--, the two sites are obviously similar, meaning that a similar event may occur on RSW. Um, what the hell? Why would a similar incident happen here? I've already taken care of the guy who was following me around from site to site, insulting me through emails and private messages. 70.49.204.107 03:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Total Rune, I love your attitude. I really do. First off, you have the gall to make assumptions about my RuneScape career. How do you know I didn't played Classic too? How do you know I'm not a "veteran," as it were? Good job on making completely unwarranted, irrelevant assumptions and judgments to try to discredit me.

Second, you might notice that I was speaking to both of you up there, yourself and Atlandy. Did you ever possibly think that I was trying to help? Perhaps my wish was to avert conflict and settle things through negotiation, not "I'd like to take you to the Duel Arena." And for the record, that is an absolutely horrible argument, because RS and the wiki are separate things, meaning your skills as a player and your traits as an editor can't be substituted for each other. Anyway, you just had to take my comments, which were actually meant to defuse a situation, and turn them into "How do YOU have any say over ME?" I don't think Atlandy's the only one who needs to lose the ego here, pal. And for the record, community consensus means the general acceptance of the community at large, and obviously that is easier as more people give consent. Every person you alienate in the manner you've just demonstrated to me means your presence here will be that much less welcome and that much less tolerated. Would you really like to keep ignoring actual advice and make things worse on yourself? Honestly, it's up to you.

My point: If you want to be welcomed here, fix the attitude. Don't automatically put yourself above whoever comes your way, because that is a true mark of arrogance and the wiki does not need arrogant editors. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 03:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Nooo, no no no, you got it backwards Andorin! I know all about you. You've been around for quite some time, yes? All I was saying is your comment about re-opening the wiki to me confused me, and that I'd love to fight you in the Arena sometime. I wasn't trying to put myself over than you, despite how easy it'd be, I'm not a masochist fool like that. 70.49.204.107 03:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, if anyone wants to just chat with me, or anything, my email is quotetheraven666@live.ca . Add me on MSN, or email me, I'll be glad to answer any questions you have. I just want to clear my name as a bad person and show you guys I'm a nice guy. 70.49.204.107 03:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
OK. I think Total should be allowed back into the wiki. I just created an account after he was blocked, I think, but from my time at the wiki I have seen he had made many good contributions before that. His fourth point from above is a good one and I don't think he's going to go and commit suicide or claim to. I think we should let him be but if he makes trouble, only a little bit, we should take action straight away, no more chances. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 03:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if I can trust you. Chicken7 >talk 06:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Please explain your relationship with Ugozima. (if there's some sort of connection) Rollback crownearth(t)

That's not me...I've changed Lord of Ra's redirects so that User:Total Rune doesn't redirect to his page, but rather to my page. I'm also asking the moderator who handled Ra's name change to protect both pages. 70.49.204.107 04:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Heh. After I read your response I fished around Wikipedia for information -- it's clear to me that you are not buddies with Ugo. =P
Around 5-6 weeks ago a sysop, whom I shall leave anonymous, was allegedly sent a message, saying that you would "bring the Wiki to its knees". A hearsay lacking any sort of proof, but leads another editor and I to be suspicious. Additionally, many notices have been posted by users across Wikipedia, RSW, and RuneScape over the compromising of their accounts; two of which suspected the hacker was you. Obviously, these complaints are unfounded; however, I feel that issues with account security should be of top priority (ex. no one likes getting hax). These users (won't name names), as well myself to an extent, wish to have their suspicions redressed in some shape or form. A simple "I didn't do it" would suffice, judging by my lack of knowledge over the subject matter. Rollback crownearth(t)
I laugh at the fact that some idiots get hacked because they lack any account security, then blame it on the nearest guy. I didn't do it. I don't know the first thing about hacking. 70.49.204.107 05:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Chicken7 Why don't you trust me? I'm a very trustable person. I am not untrustable at all. Honestly. I sat down last week and thought long and hard about everything I've done, and frankly I was disappointed in myself. I decided then and there it was time for me to repent (that's the word I was looking for earlier). Is it my fault that a couple of new editors on the Wiki don't trust me because of a reputation that's at least a year old? No. Is it my fault that I vandalized? Yes. I admit that. I screwed up. At least I'm willing to admit it. If I wasn't, I'd probably take the 4chan road and organize a raid. However, like I said, I'm willing to admit that I screwed up. I'd love to stay and chat longer, but I have to get up for work tomorrow (well, today basically, it is 3:22AM here. 70.49.204.107 07:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
You're having a really bad first impression. Rollback crownearth(t)
S'not my first. Try 2nd or 3rd. Also, I'm not looking for compassion from newer editors, as the newer editors don't really know much about me. It's comments from the older editors from when I was here that I'm looking for. And for the record, Chiafriend12 has expressed that he is glad I wish to return to the wiki. He told me when I logged onto RS earlier. 70.49.204.107 07:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Your "lulzy image-board contributions" definitely weren't pleasing some of the editors here, yet you come back asking for forgiveness. You're certainly in no position to act cocky; ironically, you have been doing that for most of this discussion. We're not asking for you to bow down and kiss our shoes--just treat all of our editors with a degree of decency.
Additionally, many of our "newer" editors contribute more to the Wiki in a month than you have in your entire time here. You should leave the Wiki right now if you feel superior to us; no sysop will tolerate an elitist attitude coming from ex-vandal. Seriously. Either take that giant stick out of your ***, or kindly leave and continue your raids, because you won't gain any forgiveness if you keep acting the way you are now. Rollback crownearth(t)

Does this discussion actually have a chance of letting him be allowed back in? It's getting to be a long discussion so I am wondering if people are wasting there time here or what? (regarding just this topic) --Degenret01 09:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Christine says no. Does that count? He's had literally dozens of chances, seriously. We've had checkusers done on him, so don't believe him when he says he hasn't vandalized past that "one time" or that this is only his 3rd chance at forgiveness. We don't let other vandals come back after they've been permanently banned, and Total, quite possibly the worst vandal to ever hit RuneScape wiki, certainly should not be the exception. He has left suicide threats multiple times on this wiki, and really, no one even asked him. We weren't prying into his personal life. It was his idea to spill his life story, about his family, about Gem, about suicide. On the wiki. It didn't help him, I don't see why he did it, but blaming everyone for asking for it is completely off base. And I'm sure it's bull about you missing me, Total, because this is also not the first time you tried to suck up to me to be allowed back. I have no reason to believe you, and certainly no reason to forgive you either. Christine 10:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Does nobody here know how to read? I've admitted to all the vandalism so please, fucking tell me where I said only the first 2 vandalisms were me. Jesus. And honestly, I don't see how my professional sounding posts (yes, I try to keep it professional) are cocky. Christine, you were prying. Constantly with the questions about my siblings and my life on my talk page, so don't try to pull an Atlandy. As for my time on 4Chan (lulzy imageboard), that's certainly none of your business. So if you think my professional tone is sounding cocky, then that's your fucking problem. I try to get a little forgiveness, I honestly don't give 2 shits if I'm allowed back. All I want is forgiveness for what I've done. And Christine, leave Gem out of this. I left her. Turns out she lied to me about everything she told me about her life. My biggest mistake was falling in love with her. And I don't see how I'm the worst vandal. Honestly. Do you fools really think I organized some big vandalism thing that lasted 3 days? Hell no. I lied about that. I have no fucking clue who half those IP vandals were. Face it, you guys are an automatic target because nobody likes RuneScape. I do, but I'm not playing until the new graphics come out. I can't believe the stupidity here. So what, I changed a few numbers on a page as vandalism. So what, I insulted people. Honestly, Blanko's vandalized more than me, he used proxies to get around his bans, and you guys still let him stay. That's pathetic. Also, almost half the IP vandals that you banned, and put "Total" as the reason were not me. I simply found it funny that whenever an IP vandalised shortly after I was banned, that "Oh, it must be Total". Fuckin pricks. I don't know why I even felt sorry for what I did. Honestly, you guys earned it. 70.49.204.107 16:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I never pried Total, you offered the information to us, because Oddly asked. And, I never said anything about you being cocky or anything about 4chan..? Your mood changes from post to post. Christine 18:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
All the newer Wikians should know that Total was a huge vandal and encouraged others to do the same. He has been banned from many many forums online (If you want me to list them I will). Also, he has threatened sucide many times on the wiki here (I know because I offered a suggestion of going over the falls in a barrel, which I thought would be funny which I later regretted due to his unstableness). If he wants to edit...do it via an ip that he hasn't had blocked yet. He uses an ip randomizer (he admitted that too), so he should have plenty to choose from [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 20:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Once again Atlandy, you never cease to fucking amaze me. I'm not fucking unstable you cocksucker. Also, I'd be delighted if you'd go ahead and list these sites, because I've only been banned from 1 forum and that was Habboxforum. All the other ones I've been on I've either been inactive, hacked, or requested to be banned. Get your shit straight, dumbass. Also, I don't use an IP randomizer. Back when I did vandalize, I used www.proxy.org, which Blankothe3rd found and used when he was ban evading. My IP changes on it's own thanks to Bell Sympatico Lite. I did not threaten suicide many times either. Once again, get your shit straight. 70.49.204.107 23:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
With language like this, it doesn't seem like you feel very welcome in this community. I will say, language like you are using here isn't going to win friends and positively influence people. This certainly isn't helping your case, unless you consider it hopeless anyway. Please, for the sake of discussion, could you scale back this kind of personal attacks and try to make your case using somewhat...er... more mature language. At least try to demonstrate that you have grown up somewhat from earlier actions deserving of having your old account unblocked. --Robert Horning 00:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


Give the guy a chance. The worst that will happen is he'll turn out to have not grown up and the Wiki will re-ban him.Planeshifted 00:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I know Rob, and I apologize. My language was uncalled for but I'm sick of Atlandy pulling "facts" about me out of his rear end, when in truth, he doesn't know anything. I'm sure I stated that I don't really care if I'm reinstated. All I ask is for forgiveness for my actions, and I'm met with bullcrap along the way. To be honest I expected as much from Atlandy and Christine. Apparently, when I sound professional, I sound cocky. The claims of me being cocky are unfounded as I am simply wording these posts as best I can. But yeah, if I'm not reinstated here, there are other Wikia's I'm a member of that you guys aren't aware of. 70.49.204.107 00:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for finally showing your true colours to everyone here on the wiki. I dont understand how...if you want to be invited in...you continue to act like a child. You have threatened a few times (on irc) and professed your true love for other wikians. Your actions on this wiki and other sites speaks volumes about you and your character. Your way of handling this whole situation (by flaming me) isn't helping your cause. Please get the help you need and move to another wiki. Thanks [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 00:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of flaming, have you looked in a mirror lately Atlandy, because that's all you seem to be good for around here. The whole reason I hate you is because all you ever do is flame me, and claim to know facts about how I've been banned or whatnot when you're really just trying to impress the sysops and kiss-up to them. I don't need to get help, you sir, need to lose the ego, otherwise, you're gonna go say something to the wrong person (IRL) one day, and end up in the ICU ward getting fed through an IV after they beat the unholy hell out of you. This is where you fail, young padawan 70.49.204.107 01:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I have not "flamed" you..only presented facts. You have been banned from this wiki, The odssey wiki, wikipedia, and other forums (You want me to list them?) That is a fact. You are unstable. (You said it) YOu have threated suicude (on here, and on wikipedia) both facts. You told christine you love her (fact)....what part of that is flaming? I am telling newer wikians about your past before the let you come back. If any of those facts are wrong..let me know [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 01:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
List them Atlandy. Go ahead. I doubt you know the usernames I use. Also, must I state this again? The reason I got banned from the Odyssey Wikia was due to mass retardation by Angela. I asked the players of Odyssey if they wanted the Wikia, they said no, so me, not knowing how to delete it, banned all users (i was gonna ban myself last) and deleted all the articles. Before I could close it up, Angela went retarded because of you guys and banned me and de-ownered me. I asked her to delete the Wikia 8 times, and all 8 times she claimed (with no proof mind you) that someone would edit it. It's been nearly a year and NO-ONES EDITED IT. You see why I get pissed off now? Nobody listens to me. They just immediately think the worst. 70.49.204.107 01:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I will be happy to find all of them...and I will list them here tomorrow. We are all on the IRC if you want to state your case btw.[[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 01:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Heh. You don't even know the usernames I use. And if you're thinking of using my username directory on Blogger.com as a reference, don't. I've deleted it due to privacy reasons, and I deleted it last week. 70.49.204.107 01:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


Ok, I'm reading all of this and I don't know if I'm underthinking the situation or missing a key element but why not just create a new account, use it to edit and contribute and not say "I used to be Total Rune"? Seems it would solve all the problems and drama.--Diberville 01:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Tried it. Wowbagger even gave me permission to, then another mod somehow found out my new account name and banned me. 70.49.204.107 01:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Please just leave the wiki alone...you bore all of us[[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 01:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
There he goes again, trying to speak for the community when his opinion doesn't matter. Flaming again, eh Atlandy? 70.49.204.107 01:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
The issue is, why do you continue to want back into a community that some/most people have issues with you? There are millions of communities online. There a suicide help ones, people who vandalize ones, people who are lied to by their girlfriend ones. Why not take it elsewhere? [[File:Drunk dragon.png|Drunk dragon]]Cheers! Atlandy 01:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow, again with the flaming. You don't give up, do you? 70.49.204.107 01:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Admins and b'crats can not know the IP address of a registered account, as long as you create a new one and not tell anyone of your former eponym, there is zero risk of anyone finding out who you are.--Diberville 01:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Can we close this part now? It has become very unproductive (was it ever productive?) Total doesnt want back, some users dont want him back, hes been banned forever, let it all go now.--Degenret01 01:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Finally! Someone on this retard factory who isn't a complete retard. All I ever wanted was a little forgiveness for what I did. Nobody seems to realize how horrible I've felt about all the vandalism. Then I get fucking Atlandy here thinking he's a fucking internet tough guy and constantly flaming me (which I think he deserves a ban from life for). And then I had to deal with Christine's stubbornness to boot. Degenret, thanks for being the only smart person in this place. I guess all that's left for me to say, seeing as I honestly don't want to return now, is I'll see you all at the Summer Wikifest... 70.49.204.107 01:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Very well. This conversation has come to a conclusion and shall be archived.--Diberville 02:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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