hello wiki friends, after Forum:Revamp the clan citadel raffle admins in the clan can't enter the raffle. some of us are poor and like money too, so lets allow admins to join the raffle. also it seems to come up a non-trivial amount of times in our secret admin chat that don't exist.
Discussion
pls help me i'm poor - User:TyA/sig 13:42, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
- But you do raids like all the time
Coelacanth0794 Talk 
13:42, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
my family is starving and I don't know why. User:TyA/sig 13:47, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
- It's not like it's gonna be rigged, I don't see any problems with it.
Bacon Beaver
13:55, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
- It's not like it's gonna be rigged, I don't see any problems with it.
ok - for just 1 cap a week, you can help make a difference to TyA's life in his time of need https://i.imgur.com/xHR7zpA.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/6encXAo.png 14:18, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
Strong oppose Obtaining needles will feel better if you're getting the money to buy them with yourself
love, a cabbage collector --
Scuzzy Beta
07:01, September 4, 2018 (UTC)
Support give me money --Iiii I I I 08:22, September 4, 2018 (UTC)
Oppose - I'm not sure if this is a serious thread, but I'll assume it is. The current setup of the raffle is that any clan admin can verify citadel cap for the raffle. I think it's bad optics to have people be able to enter themselves into the raffle - indeed, in the original raffle that I ran, I was the only person entering tickets and made myself ineligible, and in Gareth's refined citadel raffle, the people able to directly add entries to the spreadsheet were ineligible for participation. I think in the interest of a presentation of fairness, we should continue the practice of making people who can verify raffle entries ineliglble.
If there is significant interest among clan admins who want to enter the raffle, I would be a lot more comfortable if we simply reverted to Gareth's raffle's system, where a subset of clan admins would be allowed to verify raffle tickets, and thus be ineligible, and everyone else would be able to enter.
Also, Ty really should pay for his needles himself. --LiquidTalk 03:38, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, this is a serious thread. I feel like the stipulation that you cannot add yourself is fair. User:TyA/sig 05:09, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that only a subset of admins could upload the verification in the first place. I never had anything to do with the raffle in the past and then discovered I couldn't enter because I was somehow involved without my knowledge. It was a bizarre argument then and is no more understandable now. User:Cqm/Signature
- Basically everyone can grant themselves 1 entry to the raffle. Anyone with the rank Captain+ can verify someone has capped in the citadel to grant them their additional 2 entries. That is how you're "involved" in the raffle. User:TyA/sig 14:01, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
Oppose - If the clan raffle is intended for the community and for the younger ranks, then let it be for them. We introduce immorality by allowing admins to enter the raffle. How would it look if Gaz won the raffle one week? I want to also bring up the fiasco of the Christmas raffle we had last year, but I'm sure I'd be rebutted against on the argument that it was literally one person upset and he's blocked anyway. Haidro (talk) 14:26, September 5, 2018 (UTC)