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'''Support move''' - As nominator. {{Signatures/Psycho Robot}} 00:04, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
'''Support move''' - As nominator. {{Signatures/Psycho Robot}} 00:04, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:[http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8300/wowrswiki.png This] is way worse than your pic. {{Signatures/Evil1888}} 00:07, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:[http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8300/wowrswiki.png This] is way worse than your pic. {{Signatures/Evil1888}} 00:07, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
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'''Strong support''' - I have also been highly disillusioned with Wikia's operating methods. Their actions on this and other wikis have led me to believe that their primary motivation is profit, not the benefit of the community. {{Signatures/Liquidhelium}} 00:10, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

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Forums: Yew Grove > Changing hosts

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I've become increasingly disillusioned with Wikia's practices for several months now. They've been doing things that I don't think any wiki should do. Oasis has been a debacle that has alienated a huge portion of the wiki community, and many of the biggest wikis have already left, such as world of warcraft, grand theft auto, the simpsons, and more. However its far more than just an ugly theme. In using this theme, wikia has removed our ability to control the appearance of our wiki by forbidding us to customize the theme, save for the most basic color changes. Moreover, since this skin has been forced upon everyone, and since it cannot be changed in any major way, every wiki therefore looks the same. We've lost our identity as the "RuneScape Wiki" and have become "Wikia presents RuneScape sponsored by World of Warcraft and some dude with a crappy website and some spare change". When I see things like this, I'm ashamed of the way our own wiki presents itself. We need to leave.

In order to make an educated opinion, editors must know some basic things about what will happen if we do move. First and foremost, Wikia will not allow us to remove our content when we leave. That means that right after we switch hosts, there will be two wikis with the same content. Ours, which is the real one, and an illegitimate copy that Wikia will not allow us to remove. Wikia will at least allow us to retain our name by changing the name of this wiki (to something like "Runepedia"), which has been done on the grand theft auto wiki. They will also allow us to remove our logos, as was also the case with the grand theft auto wiki, and instead create a new one, or simply use a plain wikia logo. With other wikis that moved, the amount of edits made to illegitimate wikia hosted copy was decimated, with barely a few edits per hour. Wikia presents RuneScape will undergo this process as well, and moreover it will fall into obsolescence much faster than any post-move wikis due to the fact that RuneScape is updated many times per month. This will serve to keep our status as the best wiki for RuneScape knowledge.

In addition, I have emailed Jagex inquiring as to how this would affect our status with them, and they replied:

I’m sorry to hear of the issues you’re experiencing with the site!

So, in terms of what would happen to the existing RS Wiki on the Wikia network – We’d look to continue supporting the site at the same level (Silver); but we’d keep an eye on it and if necessary would alter the level of support available (ie if it became redundant and wasn’t being updated regularly).

We’d also definitely be interested in supporting a new site. If your entire admin team and community were to move to a new site, and you were able to meet all of the necessary criteria (ie, no gaming ads etc) then I’m sure we could place you higher than Silver.

Please do keep us updated when you hear more and in the meantime don’t hesitate to let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks,

Hohbein

This discussion has happened before, but it was premature and not organized well enough. Now, I think we have been given enough time and we can make a better decision. Since its a matter of considerable importance, I'm going to try to keep this as organized as possible. That said, while there is a lot to discuss, its important to not discuss it all at once and in the same location. So the first step is to decide whether or not we move at all. Discussions about the specifics of the move should happen only after the first step is complete. This is because discussions about the execution will dominate the discussion and make it harder to determine whether there is consensus to leave at all. Keep in mind that although we may get consensus to move in this thread, we still need to achieve consensus on how to move in later threads, and if consensus is not also achieved there, then we may not wind up moving after all.

So, given what I have said and what you have experienced, please discuss whether or not you feel a change of host is necessary.

Discussion

Support move - As nominator. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 00:04, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is way worse than your pic. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 00:07, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Strong support - I have also been highly disillusioned with Wikia's operating methods. Their actions on this and other wikis have led me to believe that their primary motivation is profit, not the benefit of the community. --LiquidTalk 00:10, December 1, 2010 (UTC)