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This page is for logo submissions to replace our current logo. Feel free to conceptualize and use your imagination, it doesn't have to be similar to our current logo. At the end of the submission phase, the logos will be voted upon.

Rules

  • Images must be saved in PNG, which can be done by changing the file type to PNG in the Save window.
  • The maximum width is 215 pixels and the maximum height is by 155 pixels.
  • Bear in mind that the default skin that most editors see is Sapphire, a sample of which can be seen here.
  • The deadline for submission is 00:00 UTC, September 7th, 2010, which is in September 07 2010 00:00 UTC This message will be displayed if the timer does not show up (if you do not have javascript enabled on your browser, for example). Please note that this includes resubmissions. You may not make changes to your submitted logo after this time.
  • Creating an account before submitting is recommended, but not required.

How to submit

  • Upload your logo to ImageShack or Photobucket. Please do not upload them to the Wiki, since only the winning logo may be hosted here.
  • Paste the "Direct link" from ImageShack or Photobucket where it says "Direct link" in the next empty row.
  • Where it says "Description", add a brief summary of your logo and why you think it should be chosen. If you did not make the logo from scratch, explain the yours
  • Change "Sign here" to "~~~~", which will be converted into a signature and timestamp when you save the page.
  • Save the page.
  • If you wish to suggest a logo without actually creating it, please add it to the bottom of the page. Be sure to add ~~~~ to the end of your post.
Number Logo Description Submitter
1 File:Custom wiki.png Used for the Heroes theme. Created by Cigimo0 of RuneScape Wiki FR, adapted by Manyman and Mark Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 07:25, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
2 http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/pharos5000/th_Wiki_Logo2-1.png This is a starting design, I haven't added a banner to it which i plan to do, I think this basically represents some parts of the wiki, Did i mention i suck at photoshop? [Pharos] 11:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
3 http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk184/deathskill/RSWLogo-2.png S' logo followed by the RuneScape-themed font stating 'Wiki' in the RuneScape 'plaque' style used in the real logo.

There is also a favicon I could make. I also think it'd work well with the suggested new theme for the Wiki, it was brown and RuneScape styled, similar to the SD and FO wiki. I hope it changes soon. I could even try and create a mockup. I planned to make no similarity to any other entries, and if allowed I may try to come up with a different concept.


I will update this to have a transparent background.

Minimingle 15:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
4 http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7733/rslogo.png The Smelting Pot - A tribute to the current RSWiki and RuneScape logos. This logo will probably change before the deadline. Transparent background so will fit different colour themes. jHoyle 10:45, 2010 August 25 (UTC)
5 http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4641/wikiicon.png An Icon similar to the one we already have, but there's a wizard in the center with full wizard (g). It took a lot of work in KolourPaint 4 (Kubuntu's version of Paint) and I hope you pick mine, though I don't expect it, with all the great ones already made. Zone z5 22:02, 2010 August 24 (UTC)
6 http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad217/RavenousPonies/rswikilogo.png Pretty simple. :D RavenousPonies 22:23, 2010 August 25 (UTC)
7 http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp104/aburnett001/RsWikiDropshadow-1.png Added drop shadow (per Chia's suggestion), embossing, and better AA to logo proposed above. Created by Cigimo0 (RuneScape Wiki FR), adapted by Manyman and Mark, enhanced by myself. Aburnett(Talk) 22:49, 2010 August 25 (UTC)
8 http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9274/rswikilogo.png Added about an hour in Windows 7 paint to the last submission. Created by Cigimo0 (RuneScape Wiki FR), adapted by Manyman and Mark, enhanced by Aburnett, and 2 cents added by myself. Glow3Scroll 03:31, 2010 August 26 (UTC)
9 http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4135/wikil.png RuneScape map and Wikipedia globe with runes. L D 16:12, 2010 August 26 (UTC)
10 http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6363/rsw.png Runic:

Like the favourites above, however slightly different to the FR one (so we're not stealing) and it's a lot cleaner all over the place. The background for the 'Wiki' part is also part of the official R|S logo, and the text has been similar too. Hopefully this completes everyone's suggestions and everyone likes it! :)

MinyRS 21:24, 2010 August 26 (UTC)
11 http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4258/sample04.png Based on number 7, but with the full name Runescape rather than just "RS". Created by Cigimo0 (RuneScape Wiki FR), adapted by Manyman and Mark, enhanced by Aburnett, modified by myself. Hofmic Talk 00:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
12 http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6958/sample03.png Again, based on number 7, but with a player in full dragon as well. Created by Cigimo0 (RuneScape Wiki FR), adapted by Manyman and Mark, enhanced by Aburnett, modified by myself. Hofmic Talk 00:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
13 http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5840/sample01.png Completely custom, with the leaf bladed sword. Hofmic Talk 00:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
14 http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6463/sample02.png Similar to the above, but with the KBD and slanted text. Hofmic Talk 00:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
15 http://i33.tinypic.com/2s8qtzm.jpg Created using Photoshop and a couple of picture I found on google.Not Much to be honest :D 184.97.226.7 03:17, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
16 http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/Twigy_tag1/WikiLogo.png Just a quick and cool logo made on Photopaint (Coral Draw 13) (Note its not transparent) I love the runes Lol Twig Talk https://i.imgur.com/772kZGs.png 07:02, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
17 http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/AddictNerd/runescapewikigodsv2.png RuneScape map and Wikipedia globe original by L D, added runes symbols (version 2, I edited the version of Hofmic changed to 4 god icons added some extra runes and god symbols in the wikia globe. Because I'm a Master. Dead evil84 Talk[Myface]Because I like mysteries. 14:21 August 27, 2010 (UTC)
18 http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2893/enwiki.png Based on this logo (brazilian-portuguese wiki). Both created and made by me. Felipe B Rs contribs talk 15:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
19 http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Rswikia/RuneScapeWikiLogoProposal.png Made in GIMP using a flame texture in the background, female player in dragon armour on the left and on the right male player in dragon armour. Fonts used are RuneScape Standard and DJ Fancy. Liam - Beta Tester (talk) 17:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
20 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr94/tutlik01/Untitled-4.png Custom made by Genka.Software used is (Paint.NET) 80.250.119.2 23:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
21 http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/808/runescapewikigods.png Modified version of number 17 (by addictnerd, which is based on the original by LD). Added the god symbols as someone suggested. An alternative version with faded god symbols can be found here. Hofmic Talk 00:42, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
22 http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3148/rswiki.png Simple, clean, basic, modifiable. Made using photoshop. Funionman 07:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
23 http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9013/wiki2.png Based on 18, no flag. Felipe B Rs contribs talk 12:16, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
24 http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8005/wikilitens.png Based on #21. Used the text from #11, god symbols and the map of Gielinor etc. from the wiki. 894002
25 http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2152/wikilogocpia.png Based on 23, but RuneScape spelled now. Felipe B Rs contribs talk 13:36, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
26 http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7995/xczxsgasdgasdadgdagdagd.png Another idea, runescape official art backgroung, a nice and different "runescape" logo. Felipe B Rs contribs talk 14:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
27 http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1384/wikii.png Mix 26 and 21, with a different WIKI font (similar to runescape logo) Felipe B Rs contribs talk 14:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
28 http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/2373/dfdfsd.png Last idea (W changed, no god symbol). Felipe B Rs contribs talk 15:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
29 http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/AddictNerd/wikilitens.png Edited 24 so that you can read wiki Because I'm a Master. Dead evil84 Talk[Myface]Because I like mysteries.
30 http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8224/borkl.png Clean, without stupid stones behind RuneScape. Bork official artwork in background. I do not tire of sending suggestions *-* Felipe B Rs contribs talk 18:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
31 http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8660/simples1.png Simple 28 Felipe B Rs contribs talk 20:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
32 http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2842/simples2.png Simple 30 Felipe B Rs contribs talk 20:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
33 http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7539/logoglobe.png Another globe one. Inspired by 29, but not based upon it. Used a RS world map, added a jigsaw effect, then mapped to a sphere (in GIMP if anyone wants to replicate). Also has my previous Runescape Wiki logo. No god symbols, as they made it too crowded. Updated: New version improved the shadows. Also, an alternative version made to fit within the 155x155 limits of Monobook can be found here. Hofmic Talk 20:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
34 http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5263/iaaaam.png The opposite of simple.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.89.44.72 (talk).894002
35 http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6801/combo.png Combination of 11, 17 and 33 Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 23:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
36 http://a.imageshack.us/img90/8720/newrswikilogo.png A modified version of 35. Different map and smaller text. 222 talk 02:56, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
37 http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1734/contestentryb.png Some people say it's wrong to do with MicroSoft Paint, but I did it finally. A couple of minutes could tune it! Firemaking-icon Rsrealm Maple logs 06:21, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
38 http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3710/detuned.png Another simple one. 894002
39 http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3563/35720112.png

Used the font Choc D on a stone texture i found at Google and used the map of Gielinor which is found here.

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40 http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Rangedwhip/wiki.png A simple logo, compromising of a death rune and the classic sword. --Rune battleaxe RangedwhipRune battleaxe 12:13, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
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Ideas & Comments

If posting an idea, describe the design followed by your signature (~~~~).

A suitable rune which would be representing the wiki, is partly morphed into something mind making a similar to the Wikipedia's Jigsaw Globe logo, with the puzzle pieces with Letters in languages. This had been put into practice at WikiSimpsons where Homer's head morphs into the globe at the top, and in Uncyclopedia where the Globe is changed into a potato, Times New Roman font will form the Wiki's name below the logo. Explorer's ring 3Btzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue) 17:29, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid the community won't like that, see RS:NOT#WIKIPEDIA. Mark (talk) 17:30, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
I fail to understand how that rule applys here, this concerns a logo, and if anything, shouldn't the wikis I mentioned change the logos if such a rule also concerns the design for the logo? Explorer's ring 3Btzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue) 20:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
In my experience this community doesn't like comparisons to Wikipedia. I wasn't directly referring to the rule. But hey, feel free to propose it of course :), you never know! Mark (talk) 20:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
this is a rough idea of what my idea for the logo is: http://a.imageshack.us/img828/6475/76557073.png, considering others used the WP logo, I don't see why mine won't stand a chance. Explorer's ring 3Btzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue) 18:51, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

What if you had a Staff of Light, Rune Longsword, and Rune Arrow all crossing each other (similar to the runebound behemoth's prayer).

Then at the lower left, have high level rune(s) like soul, blood, and air overlapping; at the lower right have a high level bow (maybe a dark bow?); and at the top center have a rune helmet (mid-helm, I am thinking). Then under this combat triangle, have "Runscape Wiki" like in the current logo (only a different color and no reflection).

Let me know what you all think about this.

Chessman001 (I am not a member of the community yet, just a RS player) 71.52.186.191 21:04, 2010 August 24 (UTC)

I think logo two could use a noiseless blurred drop shadow, like the one seen in logo four. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!Loon is best buttlord 18:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

^agreed. --Aburnett(Talk) 18:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty good with images, but I dunno what you guys would like to see for a logo. Anyone got a good idea that I could try and design? Hofmic 00:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

If anybody wants to use this, go for it:

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3148/rswiki.png

i was thinking if we had a rune chic on the other side like:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2349/examplef.png

that would be cool... and we should probably throw some sapphire in there to go with the theme ( I am working on something right now and i will delete all this junk i just added when i post it) Glow3scroll 03:37, 2010 August 26 (UTC)

Don't delete it, per RuneScape:Don't delete discussions, we... don't delete discussions. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 03:43, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
ok, i just wanted to remove the mass of pictures i added and replace them all with this one:
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7493/2muchtimeonmyhands.png
and my source image:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7227/contribute.png
Glow3scroll 04:32, 2010 August 26 (UTC)
Hmm, I really don't think we should be having black backgrounds... Or really any backgrounds. The photo's must be PNG, and 32bit PNG supports full-alpha (Do NOT use 8-bit, as that is only one alpha channel). Transparency looks much better than black backgrounds, ESPECIALLY with the sapphire theme. I'll see what I can mix up tomorrow. --Hofmic-- 04:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion - Could we take the "RS" part of number 4 and add it to the wiki part of 2 or 8, this could be dificult as some of it has been covered up.

  1. REDIRECT User:Swizzl3d/Sig 09:13, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

My favourite has to be the R|S wiki logo (below) it looks fresh and new. I hope you pick this (not made by me) as the winner. PLEASE: make a page for people to vote or some sort of Poll QUESTION: why does your wiki use the RS:DDD, I hate it! Please delete this feature...

P.S I accidently changed something in the letter below... So sorry. Italay90 15:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Now, why would you hate "Don't Delete Discussions"??? It has no cons, other than a slightly messy discussion, which can be handled, and is worth the ability to see the discussion as it is (or was) rather than a modified version because someone decided they wanted to delete a bunch of stuff. Anway, I uploaded four logo designs. Nothing perfect, because MinyRS beat me to the punch of creating that runic one. ;D

Observation - A lot of very good submissions here; the envy of Photoshop nubs like me. The choices are already starting to get difficult. Also, the list of "insert logo here"s only go down to twenty, does that mean there is a maximum of twenty submissions, as it may confuse some people. 222 talk 06:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No there is no maximum just that way people can add there's without having to add coding. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 06:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - On number 10, can we get the sword about the runes and maybe have the bottom set of "wiki" runes that the other images have?

  1. REDIRECT User:Swizzl3d/Sig 08:21, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - On number 9, maybe change the wikipedia symbols for runes symbols Because I'm a Master. Dead evil84 Talk[Myface]Because I like mysteries.

Comment - Can somebody try using the runes on logo 16 and swap them out with the runes on the current logo? There should be an svg image for each type of rune somewhere on the wiki. User:Stelercus/Signature 11:35, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Nope :s Not all of them have them Twig Talk https://i.imgur.com/772kZGs.png 00:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I like #17 (and agree that maybe the rune images should be "Wikified" a little), but what about adding god-logos around the edges of the globe, to fill up some of the empty space there? The gods should be those that have God-books, to make the list short and easy. --Sw0rd1914 13:43, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment I like both #17 and #9. Nice and clean. What is slightly better, I think, could be a combination of 17's map and 9's runes, because I think 9's map is hard to discern, while 17's runes are dull and boring. ( no offense :P ).--Agamemnus 19:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Image Creation Tips: Just to help any potential logo makers who wish to try their hand at creating a logo, here's a few general image creating tips:

  • First of all, don't even TRY to use a program like Microsoft paint. It doesn't support alpha, and frankly, is just not good enough. Free alternatives include the GIMP and Paint.NET, both which I use for my image design (Paint.NET is easier to use, but the GIMP has FAR more features and is overall compatible with more files). Commercial software would be best off with Photoshop, though in my opinion, the GIMP is just as powerful without costing a bundle.
  • Hard edges looks bad generally, unless purposely intended so. Even if your logo is rectangular, you should smooth the edges, such as how the current logo does. This is done with Alpha (transparency).
  • Likewise, you should avoid having backgrounds. While a white background may appear unnoticeable on the sapphire theme, users using a different theme or if the site's theme were to be changed, would make the background quite noticeable. Since Anti-Aliasing (smooth edging, rather than jagged edges) depends on blurring the edges with the background, its important to have alpha BEFORE you create anything else.

I must admit, the logos are looking very good in here! Hofmic Talk 00:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


Comment- Guys stop making so many good ones it's hard to choose lol Death will follow you...but you can survive 03:32, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment- Number 18 isn't to good because there are a lot more people here than Americans and British. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 08:20, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion - What would be nice is if we could replace the map of No. 17 with No. 9's. Also, add no. 11 to the bottom, but possibly smaller or on one line. This should make a wikipedia globe with a vaguer runescape map at the bottom as well as grey rune symbols with the words "RuneScape Wiki" at the bottom. I am too fail at photoshop to do this myself. 222 talk

Personally i like the map on no. 17 much better than that of No. 9. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 09:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I like nr. 22, but then you should add some runes in the center of the main circle. Thats awesome Buzz (Talk#P ) 11:20, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, so far my fave logo. Coelacanth0794 15:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Felipe B Rs's are good, but isn't our name RuneScape Wiki, not Rune Wiki? --Iiii I I I 13:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that true. But i put RUNE like a abbreviation. Im adding a RUNESCAPE version now. Thx for oppinion :D Felipe B Rs contribs talk 13:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Can someone remove #24? Very big, dont fit in rule: "The maximum width is 215 pixels and the maximum height is by 155 pixels." Felipe B Rs contribs talk 14:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

what do you mean? it's 155px by 155px Because I'm a Master. Dead evil84 Talk[Myface]Because I like mysteries.
Hm, yah, but i cant se the WIKI word. Felipe B Rs contribs talk 14:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Really like #29 thus far, think it might be better though if in between each god symbol was a symbol indicating each style of combat. Like a rune, a sword, a bow, and a summoning creature. Can anyone make that happen? --Lgm123990 20:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Hmm, #35 is too large... It has a height of 184px, over the 155px max. Hofmic Talk 23:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Woah, #33 looks great, and it's simple with no backgrounds diverting attention.

Comment - I think the RuneScape Wiki part in No. 35 is just too big. Also, what happened to the grey bits at the bottom of the wording. I've been meaning to make something like this, but I can't crop anything in Photoshop for some reason; everything just goes tiny and grey. 222 talk 02:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I liked Felipebrs's Simple 28, and thus I added it to my Monobook.css because it stands out among the previous additions from Logo and Theme design forums, it can easily fit Monobook and look fantastic, and made a minor change (width to fit properly in Monobook). Thank you all very much for the logos. On another note, I have yet to see a logo submitted with the previous font used in the RSC logo (Choc D if I'm not mistaken, sadly it's a commercial font), it would be interesting to see what we will come up with. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 04:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I stand corrected on the Choc D now. Now if it could use a less compressed one, it would be nice to use. But I'm still adamant about using candidate 31 (Simple 28), although 38 would be a tough customer if changed ever so slightly. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 11:28, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Well, I improved #33 so the shadows are smoother, as well, based on other's suggestions, added an alternative version that fits the 155x155 requirement for Monobook. Hofmic Talk 17:14, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Monobook

Comment - The simple ones (particularly #32) are the best in my opinion. However upon adding:

#wiki_logo, #p-logo a {background-image:url(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2842/simples2.png)!important;}

To my Monobook.css for preview, I find out that the 215/216 is still too wide. We could go with what Q said on Kris's talk page of adding:

/* Use a resized logo in Monobook. */
.skin-monobook #p-logo a {
	background-image: url("") !important;
}

But that generally skews the image. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 20:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh and just to be clear, the max is 155x155 for Monobook. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 20:30, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
The wiki doesn't use monobook though, and there's no real reason to use monobook over Monaco (used by most wikis, including this one). Monaco supports more stuff than monobook and has a better layout (though that's a matter of opinion) and is actively developed. You can consider Monobook to be dead, since even its original user, Wikipedia, doesn't even use it anymore. If you are using it, you may want to switch to Monaco. This can be done in your settings. I would recommend keeping the box that allows you wiki's to override your skin choices CHECKED. Hofmic Talk 21:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
I am also going to say this to the few who keep telling me to use Monaco, I don't give a fuck. Believe it or not many people here do use Monobook as their default skin. The original specification for the Logos was 155x155 until this edit per Bonziiznob's talk page and a help page. However, this wasn't specified to clearly as it was soon thought to also be Monobooks specs (per the light space, and we can't tell a square to a rectangle apparently). Also on the "You can consider Monobook to be dead", Monaco is dead per Wikia’s new look - FAQ: How long are you going to support Monaco?. Monobook will be kept and Monaco is going to be thrown away. Oasis is the new skin and I can keep using a familiar skin. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 23:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
I, for example, use Monobook. Don't pretend people don't. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!Loon is best buttlord 03:01, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Also, per my comment above and Oasis piece on the main forum, Monobook will be supported longer than Monaco, and as such the dimension should be changed back to 155x155 per the FAQs on the Community Wiki, Sannse's comment on the blogs, and original proposal. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 23:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Sorry if I came across harsh. My point simply is that the logo should keep up with the current times. Larger size means we have more room for creating a great logo for the wiki. Many logos today ARE horizontally larger than they are vertical, thus, it's an advantage to be able to have logos of this size available. We could always use a different logo, such as a scaled down version on the monobook theme, though there's no reason we shouldn't be able to create something that will benefit the majority of the users who do use Monaco. As for the fact that Monaco will die with Wikia's new look, I have seen the new look, and as alien as it is to me, I felt the same way with the monobook -> monaco transition, and eventually I found that I much prefered Monaco to monobook once I got used to it. Change is inheritively good, and when the Wiki's new look hits this wiki, I'll be among the first to jump right into it! Hofmic Talk 00:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

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