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Swiz showed us a picture that RuneHQ had made for the fansite tournament, displaying each of the sites' logos. To be honest, (and no offense to those worked on the logo) ours just looks bad. I realize we've had our number of Logo threads over the years, but I think the time has come to finally change it. The main reason the previous threads failed was because there was no consensus for any one of the images, though it seemed quite clear that the current logo was unacceptable. In our attempts to actually get something done and break out of the gridlock, we've worked out a plan:

  • Decide if the current logo is acceptable
  • Accept submissions for a new logo (likely on a dedicated page not on the Yew Grove)
  • Use polls to narrow down the field, possibly 5-10 semi-finalists (see below)*
  • Use consensus to pick a single finalist (similar to how the FIMG process works, and we would have a separate subpage for each of the finalists)
  • Have a final vote on the logo.

It is unfortunate that we have to bypass consensus to narrow down the field, but there is no way that I can think of to use consensus for each of the images that are being submitted (as we may have 50 or more submissions). None of these results would be binding, and if we find that the current logo works, that will be the end of it. This would be a very bureaucratic, drawn out process that could take more than a month, but I don't know how else to accomplish anything.

*It occurs to me that we could use Kwik Surveys (as we did in Wiki changes), though someone else may have to coordinate it, and I'm not sure how accurate the results would be. ʞooɔ 09:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please note: Oppose means you would like to replace the logo, Support means you like it as is.

Oppose - Very bland and blank. It doesn't measure up to the quality standards of the wiki, and pales in comparison to many other fansites' logos. ʞooɔ 09:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - the link to rhq in the first line doesn't work. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 09:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

It works for me Smile ʞooɔ 09:40, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Something happened and it worked now so yeh. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 09:49, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I would like a change in the logo. I was hoping to keep the same but change the runes to something else like the god symbols and the Godsword associated with the particular god. Liam - Beta Tester (talk) 09:27, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Question - I'm confused. What will happen if consensus is reached as oppose? Will the current logo still be in the poll? And what will happen if consensus is reached as support? Then we won't even check the new logos that have a chance to be better? bad_fetustalk 09:30, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I think we'd keep the current logo as a finalist just so people have a chance to maintain the status quo. If the consensus is support, then the whole thing will be called off and the logo will stay in its current form. ʞooɔ 09:40, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Far too boring and dull.

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Oppose - Per Cook's answer to my question. While I love the current logo, I can't know if the others are worse. bad_fetustalk 09:45, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Extreme Support - The current logo is fine. If it's worked for the past few years, why wouldn't it work in the future? Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 09:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

While I believe that it's pwnage and better than the logos of other fansites, how can you be sure that a better one will not be submitted? bad_fetustalk 09:52, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
No better logo has been submitted since this one was first used. Why would one be submitted now? Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 10:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Because why would people submit them when no one is asking for them to be submitted. For example if this is decided to go ahead i might just try to make one, something i wouldn't do if it wasn't being asked for. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 10:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
There have been threads before about replacing the logo, so they were asked to submit them. Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 11:46, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - My main issue, (and the only reason I'm saying anything) is that the logo isn't even ours. All we've done was put the runes in sort of a circle or something, showing complete unoriginality. But the point I'm making is that whatever is done, it should be changed to something unique, not just pictures taken from the game. UBDWFBucket detailrwojy 09:50, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with you. We are the "RuneScape" Wiki, of course we are going to have things from RuneScape. bad_fetustalk 09:52, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose.... but shoudlnt we wait until a decision is made on the new overall site theme? A logo that works with a white background might not work with a dark one. --Gold ore Mercifull UK serv (Talk) 09:53, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we have a thread open currently about theme, and it seems really unlikely we'll have any progress on it any time soon. ʞooɔ 09:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - (edit conflict)I think the logo is a bit boring but it fits in with the current skin. I think that if we change the logo we will have to make sure either it matches the current skin or the skin is changed to something that suits it for example something like tip it's logo on out background wouldn't look very good. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 10:04, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose, but wait - I support a change of logo, per all. But I think we should wait until Wikia implements the new skin, and if we decide on a different colour scheme. If we are to continue, we need to find a new logo that is: one, adaptable to a different colour scheme; two, the colours of the logo itself needs to be changeable without affecting its quality; and three, suitable for use on a variety of areas, including the image Swizz showed you and our pages (we could possibly use two different logos, or perhaps invent a "standard"/war flag/ensign I don't know which definition is best for tournaments, etc.) 222 talk 10:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

As said before the new wikia skin could take 6months to a year before it is fully implemented after closed testing then open testing then final implementation. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 10:29, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I acknowledged that with the second part of my comment. 222 talk 10:31, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - Per almost everyone. In fact that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw RHq's FS tournament page/news item. Although, the current icon does represent a wikia pretty well, especially the runes which represent knowledge. Does a wikia logo need to look cool? - [Pharos] 11:36, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be mind-boggling, but it would be nice for it to be a little less bland. ʞooɔ 11:44, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Something like this? [1] (Ignore the crappy editing, i suck at photoshop >.<)- [Pharos] 12:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose OMG!!! Your destroying everything!!! Consensus by opposes?!?!?!?! My head is asploding! Next there will be cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria! (Ghostbusters ref. for you youngins) The logo served us well but it is time to advance. --Degenret01 11:43, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Who was that at? :o bad_fetustalk 11:46, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose any poll - FFS, I will NOT allow a poll to be part of this! Those damn polls are scientifically inaccurate, against wiki principle, and cause other users to be highly biased. --LiquidTalk 11:49, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I thought oppose meant you support polls :o bad_fetustalk 11:51, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't see the comment at the top that said Oppose was for change. The forum's topic is called Changing the logo, so I assumed support was for change. --LiquidTalk 11:53, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
"..." I think Cook explained this already. Give us a method that is actually better and efficient and we'll use that instead. 222 talk 11:54, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
A community discussion on the YG works fine. We don't need any of the nonsense from polls as a distraction. --LiquidTalk 11:58, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Extreme support keeping the logo - Seriously, the logo is fine. Is this really the best thing we have to worry about? --LiquidTalk 11:58, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Conditional Oppose - Only if we can find a better logo. This has been difficult in the past with a vast number of entries (which we should cap off at three or something). User:Stelercus/Signature 12:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose - It is very dull and boring, and if it were the first thing I saw on this wiki (which it probably is for many users), I may not be given a good impression of it. Mining cape The Last Pun Talk Aberrant Spectre Champion 12:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - While it is fine and it does work well, I think it's time for a new one. And this time, make sure that we limit the amount of submissions, 3 or 4 is way easier to vote for than 7 or 8. ~MuzTalk 12:44, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - The logo looks fine on wiki, just looks out of place in that picture. I really don't think it matters, but whatever. User:Haloolah123/Sig 13:18, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - I prefer our current logos (File:Wiki.png and File:Wiki wide.png), but we could improve them. On an added note, the newest skin may use another file (just speculation) variation of File:Wiki___.png and require a similar discussion. Just some food for thought. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 13:21, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - The logo now is pretty boring, it'd be nice to see something new.

13:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Yes, the logo itself is nice but just not RuneScape-ish. It is just boring... Mark (talk) 13:27, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Let's have a new logo.

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Oppose - We can do better. Dave Lopo 15:14, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I was waiting for the day this thread would be made, how comes we didn't try the Wikipedia "Jigsaw-globe" thing? We could get a rune, and have some part of it morphing into the famous jigsaw bits, they did this rather well at WikiSimpsons, and it's about time we get rid of the assorted runes logo thing, it's a game, we're about a game, games arn't meant to be overly serious, so why are we being so serious on everything? To conclude, replacing the logo? Hell yes Explorer's ring 3Btzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue) 15:15, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

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