Forum:Featured Article Videos

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Example of a featured video

As of today, Wikia has decided to start implementing featured videos at the top of various articles across the wiki, starting with those that are most popular. These are visible on Money making guide and Treasure Trails/Guide/Coordinates. They can contain pre-roll ads if you're not using any kind of adblock software, and auto-play (with no audio).

We'd like to stress that these videos are not created by us, nor did we ask for them to be implemented. We have contacted Wikia about them, but it's completely beyond our control. This thread serves as a place to give feedback on and discuss them.

We have created a messagebox template that we will put on articles that we spot using these videos to clarify that they aren't our videos, with a link to this thread.

Hiding the videos

Due to Wikia's Terms of Use, it would be a violation for us to remove the videos using JavaScript and CSS site-wide for all of our users. Instead, if you have a Wikia account, follow the steps below if you would like to hide these videos yourself:

• Go to this page, and tick Enable personal JavaScript
• Go to this page (to hide across Wikia) or Special:MyPage/common.js (to hide on this wiki)
• Edit the page, paste this code in on a new line and save:

$('.featured-video-wrapper').remove();

• (Optional) Go to this page (to hide across Wikia) or Special:MyPage/common.css (to hide on this wiki)
• (Optional) Edit the page, paste this code in on a new line and save:

.featured-video-wrapper {
    display: none;
}

Alternatively, you could try blocking the element using Adblock or similar extensions.

Discussion

Ugh - They're terrible. The scripts are so bad it isn't even funny. The narrator clearly has no game knowledge. These videos will ruin articles because of their outdated information (see the MMG video and you'll understand why). We don't want them, we didn't ask for them, but we got them.

Wikia won't be working with communities on scripts, so we don't even have any input at all. https://i.imgur.com/xHR7zpA.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/6encXAo.png 22:23, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - <--- Not like that does anything, but I'd like to emphasise my contempt for these featured videos. The two I've seen so far were so poorly made, it was as if the author had little to no knowledge of the game. I don't want them here, or on the OSRS Wiki. EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

As for the OSRS Wiki, we too will use the messagebox template with a link to this same thread, should we spot any featured videos on our articles. -- Spine^Talk 22:34, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

It's so bad - The videos are the first thing people will see when they get on the page. If they don't have an adblocker installed, that means a 30-second autoplaying ad above the article content. Secondly, the videos are bad. Like, really bad. The person narrating them have no idea what they're talking about and are just quoting somewhat related wiki articles, and poorly at that (how do you not know what minutes are regarding latitude and longtitude?!). It's just a bad idea all around, but because Wikia seems to not care about the input of its communities and only about money, it's very likely nothing will change and we won't have a say in the matter. move to gamepedia when  ThePsionic  22:41, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Also @Wikia stop stealing your background videos from youtube - either create your own or have someone who plays the game make them for you. This is just distasteful. (And yes, I asked Moto, who made the video on the MMG page. He didn't give permission.)  ThePsionic  05:26, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - I started to watch the MMG one to see what they were like, and... ugh. Even if you don't have any knowledge of RS, it doesn't make sense. "There are two main ways to grow your money reserves in RuneScape. The first being: hourly profit." Wut. That's not a way to make money, that's how effective your method is!

The correct answer to that sentence was: Slayer. 0/10 update. -- F-Lambda (talk) 22:58, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Level 7 Zamic wizard - How can they be this bad. Just, wow.

I think the level of care that was put into the videos is most clearly shown at about 20 seconds into the coordinate one. She says it takes 2 minutes to travel one game square, which may easily fly under your radar unless you realise that she's talking about 2 minutes of time, and the article is talking about 2 minutes of distance (longitude/latitude). Just like coordinates works IRL. Two sentences earlier she mentions that it works like IRL. I just... ugh.

No one gave a shit when making these videos and it makes us look bad.  @Gaz#7521 23:00, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

I DONT LIKE THIS - I couldn't even watch the first 10 seconds of the MMG one when she said "all currency is calculated using current Grand Market prices. Jesus effing Christ. These are terrible because even if the videos weren't out of date, they will be eventually. And as others have already pointed out she clearly didn't know what she was talking about. The whole point of Wikis are so that people passionate about something can share their up to date knowledge on it! I don't know much about the wiki higher ups and exactly what influence we have with each other (but I'm guessing its very one sided) but I find it incredibly stupid that they would force something on us that defies what makes wikis great in the first place. </rant> Superiosity the Dragonrider: User:Superiosity/Signature chat 23:17, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

I made a thing - Zamik Wizard Feel free to edit it :) Superiosity the Dragonrider: User:Superiosity/Signature chat 09:46, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Hell the fuck no. - Just. No. It will never work on this Wiki and guess that question I asked Bert was never addressed. Fucking crimiy Fandumb. Twig Talk https://i.imgur.com/772kZGs.png 00:12, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Damnit wikia! - Did ye ken a single vial of water costs 4000 coins? At least according to the video. Nae 10 coins, 4000 coins! By Guthix, they're openly distributing misinformation! How long afore our users start giving us shit over mistakes like that? Template:Signatures/Ciphrius Kane 00:43, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Probably just going to consider pulling the plug on visiting all wikia sites then if this is the level of incompetence they intend to put in. - I'm sure this sounds like the standard "quitting runescape" you might hear someone say. But given how much trouble wikia fansite specific editors/contributors already have to deal with unnecessary edits and even malicious edits ... a person for Wikia stated that despite their already hectic schedule, they are going to create these videos without any input from the local wikia editors/moderators on their own time? Yet the local wikia editors usually have 10000000 times more knowledge of the local wiki content than the people making the videos? ................ so are they forcing us to create our own videos for every page? do we need to create false traffic on pages that we don't really care about (ie Thingy) so they waste their time on those pages? Sure you guys have seen things ... but the quality of these videos is so bad it actually takes away from the quality of the articles ......... Frankly, if they don't pull the videos out after a while, I'll ping Salix in game to revoke my in game title, and just change my status on here to 'retired'. Why bother if Wikia is going to &^%$# up their own site? --Deltaslug (talk) 00:59, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

I can't revoke the title myself, but I could pass it along to Mod Shauny who might be able to do it, although I remember that Jagex wouldn't want to do that. Salix of Prifddinas ^(Talk) 08:43, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Horrific and inaccurate - Utterly terrible in every way. MAGE-KIL-R 01:08, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

By seven hells, I shall oppose such a tremendous trash Seriously what in fucking Hellios this shit is, we know this was coming months ago but i never thought it would be that terrible, they could have at the very last let us put custom video, but I guess $$$ must be made, also "Grand Market Prices". http://i.imgur.com/x5sQGus.png  ᚼ 𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝕸𝖆𝖓𝖕𝖆𝖎𝖓𝖙 ᚼ (t)(c) 01:19, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Wikia is clueless - Congrats, wikia. You continue to make the user experience even worse, but at least you are driving analytics up (which is all the matters, right??). The videos are awful and filled with misinformation. But more importantly, they're completely useless for readers. Readers don't need a video that gives them vague information about what map clues are, and that it can be "a great excuse to work co-op with other players". They are looking for a quick answer to the clue they're on -- having an auto-playing video that auto-follows as you scroll is NOT going to make them come back. I had a good laugh when they showed private server footage in the OSRS map clue video, though. Clueless. Rune14 (talk) 05:51, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

why are we still dealing with this crap - simply put, this wiki and its sister wiki (old school) should move to a different host, like gamepedia. I can not see any right reason to stay with a host that is pulling crap like this. --User:Heavyoak/Signature 08:09, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Let's change hosts (again mk IV) - It's truly admirable how profoundly horrible each of Wikia's new updates are. I don't think they've done any good at all since deleting Monaco, and that was years ago. I honestly don't know whom they think this is going to help, apart from themselves. And since that's glaringly obvious, it's quite plain that they only care about themselves. We should do everything we can to get rid of this crap. Put a huge notice on the main page on how to do it for readers, and ditto for removing ads, if those are still a problem (yay adblock). Fswe1 08:24, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

OK, watched the video. What the actual flying duck? This is even worse than I thought. On a side note, why does the wiki look like this for me on Oasis (50% zoom)? Fswe1 08:30, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Changing host - I'm relatively new to editing the wiki so I didn't get the whole 'changing host' thing before. But my god, I get it now. Those videos are so horrifically bad. Literally anyone with 5 minutes of gameplay under their belt would have done a better job. Which is fine, they can create all the bad videos they want. But refusing the input of us? That's just a no-go. They seriously refuse to delete this abomination that they spent a whole 2 minutes on creating. I'm not one to get mad easily, but man I'm mad. The level of incompetence and apathy goes through the roof. We should seriously consider changing host. (Which I know has been done before.)--Galian prist (talk) 08:41, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - Just wow... I don't even have to reiterate what was already said above... just wow... Salix of Prifddinas ^(Talk) 08:48, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

^{I call dibs on the video for Prifddinas. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 08:49, September 6, 2017 (UTC)}

Comment - The featured video feature wastes every editor, reader and Wikia Inc.'s time. Easily outdated if some effort was put into them and the wholesale stealing of videos from Youtube is horrifying. I would have hoped that they would understand they cannot have their interns or whoever is involved to present these farces. The videos are intolerable and represent the content on this wiki in the worst possible way. Moving hosts will do nothing; just send the proper message to Wikia Inc. that this cannot continue. Ryan PM 09:04, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Wikia care more about monetization over reputability - may sound harsh but it's true. With the private server videos appearing (mainly on OSW) and I bet there's some dicing or gambling sites somewhere too, it's clear that Wikia do not really care about our inevitably tarnished reputation as the best RS resource. I remember earlier threads about forking to another host years back, I wouldn't be surprised if another popped up again.

Though it's not all that surprising, in a way. We are one of the most consistent and active Wikia wikis, however I do think it's out of order to carelessly embed these abomination videos about "Zamic wizard" and other repugnance. They should have thought it through rather than giving us no choice but to accept them and no deliberation on the matter. — KnazO 11:22, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Jagex... - ...have contacted Wikia and they said they are going to "address any inaccuracies". It's good that they're helping us out. The bad thing is though, we don't want these videos altogether. We've consistently voted as a community on multiple occasions against them (most recently Forum:Videos on specifics pages). I'm sure everyone would rather these be removed rather than made "more consistent". I feel like, at this point, maybe it would be an idea to contact Jagex and see if they would theoretically be willing to fork the site onto their domain - if people are going to start talking about changing hosts again (which I can see has already started). I don't like Wikia either, and I want to move, but because of things like search rankings (as addressed in the countless amounts of 'move hosts' threads), the only viable way I see of doing this is to move to RuneScape's official domain. https://i.imgur.com/xHR7zpA.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/6encXAo.png 12:38, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

This is embarrassing - I've seen similar videos on other Wikis, and they're all awful, not to mention massively distracting and intrusive to the page. They'd better get rid of them, fast. Neutralino_Talk? 12:43, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Classic wikia - I once tried disabling my ad-blocker and logging out of wikia to see how bad the ads were. My browser crashed. True story.  Archmage Elune  ^Talk_HS fetus is my son and I love him. 13:38, September 6, 2017 (UTC)