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Some information for users while playing RuneScape with regards to the RuneScape Wiki:

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Well, what do you think? Still discuss the wiki on the CC? 01:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Pending - Looking for other opinions. 01:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment/Pending - Well the ultimate solution is for everyone who is able to post on the RuneScape Forums to recommend the wiki on the "Recommend a fansite" thread and hope we get listed. But, for what to do in the meantime I'm unsure. Got to love and hate the gray areas. - TehKittyCat (talk) 01:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I would say talking about the wiki in our own CC would be fine, as it is pretty obvious to mods that the people in there at least know of and use the wiki. I still think it is ridiculous and insulting that they have recognized just about every site but ours. Ancient talismanBladeQuick chat button# 01:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - We should change the name of the cc because it references wikia which alot of people know is a website. We should also ban any mention ever of the wikia ingame until we make the list. I will put together a task force to ensure the wikia is never mentioned ingame by anyone, registered or non registered. We will constantly world switch and check population centers and prevent anyone getting banned. I am not joking, at all Smile. Cap and gogglesTEbuddy 02:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Kinda confused what you are saying there.=|Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 02:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Edit Conflict Great idea! -.- I'm just wanting to make sure users know the risks, if they don't already. 02:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Comment' - By the task force, do you mean that we get a group of players to go around to places like Varrock, so it isn't mentioned? And what if it is? Report, even though that is what we are ultimately trying to prevent. Can you please explain this a little bit better. ~MuzTalk 02:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I guess it is ok to talk about us amongst us wikians, but not to other people. Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 02:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I do agree that we should be a bit careful about talking about the Wiki, especially when new users or unsure if users in the clan chat can be fully trusted. Perhaps the reason why we haven't been contacted as there isn't a really defined "site owner." The closest thing is Merovingian, who is the user who filed the request for the Wikia. But, since he isn't active anymore, Jagex can't contact him. ~MuzTalk 02:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

He seems active on wikipedia. Maybe we can contact him there? [1] Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 02:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm one step ahead of you. I already did before just coming here to see this message :p 02:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Technically, I added this here and you asked him on minute later on his talk page.=p You got to love the time in our signatures lol. Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 03:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol, well, I didn't read it till I came back after I posted ;P 03:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Just about to say that Bonzi contacted him. If he does contact back, it may be best to ask if he could get on RuneScape for a few minutes, as maybe Jagex would contact him ingame to make more private matters between Jagex and him. ~MuzTalk 02:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Comment - Community > a defined leader. Barrelchest anchorDoucher4000******r4000Raw monkfish 03:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but Jagex will want one mediator most likely. They won't want to talk to 10million people. 03:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
But what about AEAE, unless jagex agrees that we can all be mediators shouldn't we not talk to them? ConcerndoutCap and gogglesTEbuddy 03:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I wonder, what did FunOrb Wiki do in their case to be added? - TehKittyCat (talk) 03:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Worth asking. 03:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I think Merovingian is the closest thing we have to a Mediator. Or else we could nominate someone who is active. Although I'd be against it because they may/will think they are above everyone... Chicken7 >talk 04:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Merovingian isn't even active in the least. He has been contacted in regards to the wiki he created many times, and he hasn't even edited it once in over two years.
If we did choose someone, we would choose someone who is mature, and who we would trust the reputation of our site with. For example, let's say we chose one of the active 'crats. Would they think that they're above everyone else? No, of course not, because they, being a person who the community has found to be trustworthy, know that they only become a mediator for the betterment of the site. Dragon helmChiafriend12Granite body (old)Loon is best buttlord 06:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, Merovingian isn't active on the wiki (although he still is somewhat on the Big W). I guess if we really had to choose 1 person to represent this wiki, I guess RS:IAR could be played into effect if needed. Rollback crown Spencer (Talk | Edits | Contribs) 09:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - the day we brush aside AEAE to grasp the possibility of contact with Jagex is a sad day. Take some time to think about that; is it really worth it? Andrew talk 04:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - We're kinda getting off topic here, but a mediator doesn't mean loss of AEAE, they would be nominated by wikians, and would have to answer to the wikians. With regards to mentioning the wiki, I always have mentioned fan sites I know are safe, and I probably always will. --Serenity1137 06:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC) (btw,I am free of black marks or whatever)

Regardless of that, all editors will not be equal. Even though that person may answer to us they alone get to talk to Jagex in private. Andrew talk 07:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
We would have to say that anything Jagex tells them must be told to us, they would just really be a middle manSerenity1137 16:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)(forgot to sign)
Jagex can come and talk to us as a community, or not talk to us at all. We'll not have one person "represent" us, as such person that knows the views of every wikian does not exist. And have you actually read the AEAE? Barrelchest anchorDoucher4000******r4000Raw monkfish 14:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes I have, no need to get offensive, I am not suggesting this person have any power over the wiki, or that they are permanent, only that they serve as the person who jagex sends their messages to, and who send messages (which would have to be pre approved by the community) back. --Serenity1137 16:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
That obviously isn't necessary. They approved the FunOrb Wiki without any of this so they will approve us in due time. Andrew talk 16:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Question: Has anyone asked an administrator from the FunOrb wiki about how they were listed? http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 02:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

We could just ask vimes, he was even a featured user over there... --Serenity1137 10:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
FunOrb wiki doesn't have featured users. I'll explain how it happened in a new YG thread, so you can link to it in future. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 19:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Lolz. The said "Reccomend..." thread has 113 pages. Not even a single post is shown. I think you'r wasting your time... Guthix's Book of Balance4ndrepd TalkContribsDragon scimitar oldJump to the God Wars II! 14:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Question - Exactly why does Jagex not approve of us? Is it simply because of our ads?  Tien  14:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there's actually a reason other than they haven't gotten around to us yet. It can't be the 'must speak to whole community' thing, as the FunOrb wiki is there, and the other fansites occasionally have gold selling/other MMORPG ads too (generated by google/ad providers)... Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 15:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
If they've contacted the FunOrb wiki, then surely they must assumed that there is a wiki for RuneScape too. But who knows, maybe they didn't think of that.  Tien  17:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Back on the subject of discussing the wiki on the cc, well, I say that those who want to can but are at a risk of getting muted if someone reports them (I don't know who would). We can't really put up a 'no discussing the wiki' rule. If people want to, fine, it's their fault if they get blocked.--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 13:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

"All users must follow the rules Rules of RuneScape regarding Honour, Respect and Security, without questions or exceptions. However, we might have to “tweak” Website Advertising rule – Obviously, we will have to mention, refer to, tell people to look at, etc., the Wiki many times. This is not "directly advertising" a fansite, as we are mentioning, not "advertising" or giving a web address." That was my opinion then, it still stands. Barrelchest anchorDoucher4000******r4000Raw monkfish 15:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Well as long as 'tweaking' rules in your opinion is ok. I don't think we should ever speak of the wiki in game, the mod said above that they cannot guarantee you wont get banned. Cap and gogglesTEbuddy 15:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I think its up to each user, per 2+2, if its a risk someone is prepared to take then we should let them. If jagex start to crack down on it then we should warn users, but its still ultimately each users choice. I don't see them doing anything to anyone though and until they do I will continue to advertise the wiki and talk about it --Serenity1137 17:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

To D4k: I feel I should point out that "We weren't really advertising the website" will not stand up in defence if you get punished for it. So it's a pointless statement. You're breaking the rules (whether you think so or not is irrelevant); the question is whether you're willing to do it. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 17:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I was the one who advised every to not mention the wiki in the Clan Chat, and referred to it as "w---" for the most of the Clan Chat's existance. Barrelchest anchorDoucher4000******r4000Raw monkfish 02:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Better safe than sorry??? Prayer Jedi Talk HS Log Tracker Summoning 03:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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