I've seen some confusion as to how the FunOrb wiki was contacted and got itself listed on the "approved fansites" list. I just thought I'd clear it up.
- Quartic, the only active bureaucrat, was contacted first, via RuneScape/FunOrb inbox. I was contacted second, after Quartic didn't reply. This suggests this wiki would be contacted via Azaz, Dtm, or some other active 'crat. Or possibly me, given that they already know me.
- I don't know if our contact resulted in our being listed. The listing happened some considerable time after the contact. Draw your own conclusions.
- They asked for a middle-man to go through. I won't go into how we communicate, but it's only Quartic and I that can do it. I can assure you that they would not approve of allowing everyone in the community to have the ability to use this contact method.
Questions, comments, etc. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 19:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if they don't wont want to talk to us as a community, more power to them. Doucher4000******r4000 19:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Is it possible they've contacted someone here who is no longer active, such as through a personal email account? Do all bureaucrats have access to the inbox? Horsehead Talk 19:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Eh? First contact was through the RuneScape inbox, not email. Yes, it's possible they contacted Merovingian, Eucarya, or something. But they chose the active bureaucrat on the FunOrb wiki, not the founder. Mind you, Quartic is a player moderator - that may have influenced them. Eucarya is, too. Someone get him to check his inbox. =p
- There are only two bureaucrats, and we can both access the Jagex communication method. Whether the others will, if and when they get made, remains to be seen. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 19:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Why can't Jagex simply speak to us here? We're a community. I don't want to elect some sort of representative. If they won't speak to us as a whole, then I don't want to speak to them. ~ Sentry Telos Talk 05:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I can see why they want there to be only one or two people who can actually contact them, if we opened it to the entire wiki they would be bombarded with junk, and thats what the forums are for. I personally see no violation of AEAE if we put forward a spokes person. All this person would do would be to relay the messages jagex has sent to a YG thread, then relay the reply when consensus has been reached on what the reply should be. However if the reason they want to talk to a limited few is to do with information containment, then I don't see how we can get around it. --Serenity1137 09:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Azaz cannot contact them - may I ask what makes you think he can? I have contact only with the FunOrb community staff, so I wouldn't be able to do anything regarding RuneScape. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 15:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Having only a specific group of people have that information is going against everything the wiki stands for. This "Elite Group" would get to knoweverything and everyone else is deemed "unworthy" and is to be left in the shadows? Doucher4000******r4000 15:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- No. Why would they keep the information to themselves? What do you think Jagex tells us? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 16:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok, how bout, there are one or two people who act as representatives of the wiki that speak with Jagex, and the representatives only tell Jagex what the community decides upon, and they must tell what Jagex said to the community. This is simply for the convinience of Jagex. They only want to speak to one or two people. Not 500. Its like being an administrator. Does having extra powers normal users don't violate AEAE? --— Enigma 16:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)Edit Conflict - Comment - I think we are blowing this "We want Jagex to contact us" thing outta proportion. As Vimes said (perhaps outta context), they weren't looking for a relationship, they just somehow got one. A few users exchanged some small talk via the RuneScape inbox and the FunOrb Wiki was on the list. I'm not sure if the FunOrb Wiki discussed being on this list as much as we have though, and I highly doubt they have since. It's great they are on there, but what real advantage has it brought them. Perhaps more audience and the right to speak about it but us complaining and hoping and trying and wishing for them to come to us looks so bad (to me anyways if I worked for Jagex). It's like we are begging or looking for attention and in reality I think that just labels us to Jagex as, well, stuck up. I think the best thing we can do now is to just drop the whole thing and forget they are even teaming with fansites. If they do make an attempt to contact us well than all the power to them but sitting here pondering why they haven't is just getting us nowhere fast and building us a bad reputation. I posted that screenie on the other forum as a sort of heads up, not to discuss how we can build a relationship with them so we can avoid not worrying about the potential risk. Jagex will contact us if and when they want to and how they want to. It's up to us at that point to decide what we will do but until than, what exactly is the purpose in making these choices now?
- they weren't looking for a relationship, they just somehow got one
- "They" being the FO wiki? If not, whom?
- Yes, the FO Wiki. You weren't seeking a relationship or asking for attention as we are here. They just happened to contact you, right?
- A few users exchanged some small talk via the RuneScape inbox and the FunOrb Wiki was on the list.
- It wasn't "small talk"; we were contacted by Jagex with the explicit intention of forming a working relationship with the wiki.
- Yes, but it's still relatively small compared to what hypothetical situations some of the users here are suggesting Jagex may or may not do to contact us. It was small talk between a couple users, not the entire community.
As for the rest - No, we didn't discuss the Jagex-contact thing on-site as much as you have, but I'm not so convinced that it's as significant as you make out. And we have no advantages (other than this), but that's mostly because we have no community. You could use it a lot more than the FunOrb wiki can. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 16:32, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- For the record, Euc isn't a mod anymore. I talked to him ingame a few months ago.