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This thread was archived on 10 December 2014 by Joeytje50.

There have been some discussions going around regarding the opening line of articles, such as Murky Matt (runes), Millie Miller and Charlie the Tramp. There have been a many edit war about which goes first in an article: the name as seen on the tooltip, and the name as told by the NPC. For Millie Miller, this would either be "Millie Miller" or "Millicent Miller".

Example:

  1. Millie Miller, also known as Millicent Miller, ....
  2. Millicent Miller, known in-game as Millie Miller, ....

What should the "proper way" be to handle these situations? I would also like to call a vote for whether this rule should be in the style guide or not. Lily of the valley ThePsionic White Rabbit 13:40, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

#1, and entry in the style guide - As creator of the thread. Lily of the valley ThePsionic White Rabbit 13:40, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

two -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cerdant (talk) on 13:41, November 24, 2014.

#1 - First should come the NPC name (tooltip/object name as it were), followed by akas, full names, etc. (lore stuff) This is my choice not just for NPC articles, but also items ("Amulet of fury (t)" and not "Trimmed amulet of fury" should be at the beginning of the article) and anything else people can think of. Another example is Apothecary. The decision of this thread should certainly be added to the style guide. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:58, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

#1 - But (runes) can be removed from the intro sentence on Matt. Parentheticals like that should remain in the name parameter of infoboxes, but they can be safely removed form lead sentences to keep the prose need and sensical. MolMan 15:02, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Lily of the valley ThePsionic White Rabbit 15:48, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

#1 with exceptions - It depends, honestly. For articles such as Murky Matt, Millie Miller, the Apothecary and Charlie the Tramp, their in-game names should be first. For NPCs such as Reldo who have their in-game name as part of their full name there's no real point in being redundant and saying "Reldo, also known as Reldo Trimmly" instead of just "Reldo Trimmly". I'm not really sure where cases like the ports adventurers would fall, currently we have them as "[name], the [occupation]" instead of "The [occupation], also known as [name]", but personally I'd say the former looks better. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 18:37, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

This Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 18:38, November 26, 2014 (UTC)
Occupation, real name Name, is better than "also known as" MolMan 18:40, November 26, 2014 (UTC)
This Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 18:46, November 26, 2014 (UTC)
This Lily of the valley ThePsionic White Rabbit 18:15, November 30, 2014 (UTC)


Information icon A user has requested closure for Style rule for starts of articles. Request complete. The reason given was: A fairly obvious consensus has been reached, and the thread is no longer progressing.
Lily of the valley ThePsionic White Rabbit 19:42, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Closed - The additional style rule #1 has been added to RS:STYLE#LEAD. The format should now be "<IGN>, full name <name>", which is based on the original proposal and the suggestion by Mol. If you spot any articles that have problems like the ones mentioned in the proposal, please convert the start of the article to this format. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 20:10, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

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