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'''Question for Ansela''' - What do you plan to do if you have your editing privileges restored? I think we all know there were several areas that you were very strong in, but also those you were unfortunately weak in. How do you see yourself behaving in these areas (both strong and weak)? And give it an honest though: What do you still need to improve on? {{Signatures/The Mol Man}} 14:29, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 
'''Question for Ansela''' - What do you plan to do if you have your editing privileges restored? I think we all know there were several areas that you were very strong in, but also those you were unfortunately weak in. How do you see yourself behaving in these areas (both strong and weak)? And give it an honest though: What do you still need to improve on? {{Signatures/The Mol Man}} 14:29, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
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:I just want to do anti-vandalism, image work, spelling/grammar edits, and maybe work on new release pages after updates. Those are things that should, all being well, cause little to no conflict with other users. As for my weaknesses, I know I struggle with communicating ideas to other users. I intend to limit my use of talk pages, and I will endeavour to mostly use the warning/information templates that exist on the wiki, some of which I created specifically to alleviate my issues regarding phrasing and tone. Edit summaries, my other main weakness outside of chat, will also be something I'll try to be better with; limiting myself to the facts of the edit, instead of my opinions will be my main goal there. I still need to work on "live" communication, I feel. It is for that reason that I have requested the chat ban remain; I do not wish to put myself back into chat, where my temper ''will'' get the better of me at some point. {{Signatures/AnselaJonla}} 14:49, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

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Forums: Yew Grove > Unblock AnselaJonla

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Over the past few months, I have come to realise that my previous behaviour on the RuneScape Wiki was unacceptable. There were users on here that I wasn't treating with any respect at all, and I deserved the block I received for my behaviour.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to those users, especially Ozuzanna, The Mol Man, Leon Art, Italay90, and Just Cute. My attitude towards you in particular, was wrong and should never have existed in the first place. I also want to apologise to the admins who were forced to mediate the disputes I caused and the problems I created.

At this time, I am requesting an unblock from editing. I do not want to be unbanned from chat currently. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 23:05, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

At this time I have no stance on this. Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 23:13, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment - For reference, original block thread: Forum:Problems with AnselaJonla v3 --LiquidTalk 23:15, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Support - I'm in favor of second chances, especially since it's been something like eight months and it seems that Ansela has recognized her previous behavior was not acceptable and is proactive about not putting herself into situations in Special:Chat where issues may arise. I would temper this with the note that if this is successful and she is unblocked, it should be clear that further violations will not be tolerated and will result in immediate blocks. --LiquidTalk 23:18, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Just want to recap - Been 8 months blocked, still wants to contribute after all of this, 3/5 of the conflicting users are AWOL. The fact that she still wants to help and that she wants to make sacrifices (Special:Chat block still remain) is a big +. She DOES want to help the wiki, and she still visits it every day, pings me about vandalism all the time and stuff to fix on the wiki. I believe she has changed enough to be unblocked, to have a second chance like Liquid said. User:Jr Mime/Signature [VSTF] 23:21, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Strong Oppose Would take sides and abused powers. Has kicked lots of people from chat, and banned people. I believe the punishment fits the crime. I'd support at least a 2 year ban. Cat mask.pngMaceyPantsOvergrown cat (white).png 23:27, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's safe to say you have no idea what's going on. Either what she will have/do when she's back, or what she was gone for in the first place. MolMan 23:28, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks,the mol man I really appreciate your feedback, it really help! I will look a little closer at all the things you pointed out! Thanks again!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maceypants (talk).
She doesn't say she wants power back, she just wants to help the wiki as I see it. Furthermore, she said she wants to stay banned in chat. User:Jr Mime/Signature [VSTF] 23:30, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks,jr mime I really appreciate your feedback, it really help! I will look a little closer at all the things you pointed out! Thanks again!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maceypants (talk).
"Has kicked lots of people from chat, and banned people." What's wrong with using rights bestowed upon them? Ozank Cx 23:49, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks,ozuzanna I really appreciate your feedback, it really help! I will look a little closer at all the things you pointed out! Thanks again!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maceypants (talk).
No problem, I'm glad all the things I pointed out have been so helpful to you, and appreciate your genuine thanking! Ozank Cx 23:52, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Per Liquid and Mime Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 23:29, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Coming from someone who previously had conflict with said user, I now believe that Ansela has improved in her attitude towards others and deserves another chance considering the time passed and the fact she PMs me and other users about RSW edits that should be reverted despite not being able to revert them themselves. I've been in somewhat contact with her for a good few month now and she seems like she's changed, as well as genuinely apoligising for her actions in the past against me. A lot of the aggro happened in S:C so if she's willing to accept a chat ban and unblock then I think it's the right move to unblock her for now as she made many good edits towards the wiki. Ozank Cx 23:31, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Weak support - Regardless of previous policy changes, confrontations, and aggressiveness, a user who wishes to contribute to the community in a respectable sense should not be prohibited from doing so. If Ansela is able to maintain civil relations and acknowledges constructive criticism (implied in her apology), I don't see any problems. --クールネシトーク 00:10, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Weak support - At the time, I was one of the administrators, mentioned in AnselaJonla's user talk message, who often saw the talk page messages she left to others and stepped in to mediate her communications. She did sometimes seek mediation in Chat as well, with lines such as "someone tell person's name this for me please, or it will get ugly".

Being nothing more than a neutral observer now, I cannot support this as strongly as the current community.

Firstly, I understand that the community has decided that she should not stay a sysop before she was blocked.

Not being a sysop or chat moderator means she also can't undo the requested chat ban on herself. The request for staying banned from Chat shows restraint. Apologising to the people whose talk pages received her rude messages also shows remorse. And then the fact that this unblock request is made 7 months after the block makes it more likely that she has changed than if it were made in the following days or weeks.

However, given AnselaJonla's actions outside of Chat and the particularly egregious messages she left to users, both in talk pages, user talk pages and snappy edit summaries, I feel that the community should also decide, if she should get unblocked, whether this is a clean slate (with the usual number of warnings to start) or a last chance as an editor. I will assume good faith, however, and support her unblocking.

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00:36, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - on the grounds that she gets banned immediately again if she starts acting like before. Eight months is enough time for a person to change, so here's to hoping that she won't. bad_fetustalk 00:41, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Chat and the wiki are separate things and should be. She was banned from the wiki (and chat) mostly for chat behavior. --User:Saftzie/Signature 02:17, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Per Liquid. Temujin 05:03, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - If Ansela feels that she will now be able to interact with other editors civilly, avoiding the kind of behaviour that led to her being blocked before, then I support her being unblocked. Aside from this behaviour, Ansela made a great deal of positive edits to the wiki and I would like to see her given the chance to do this again. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 08:56, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - Ansela was a good editor and I think the main reason she was blocked was because of her behavior in Special:Chat. If she wants to have that block kept up, I am perfectly fine with her returning. Fallen leaves.png ThePsionic Eek.png 09:04, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - People change over time. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 09:23, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - I'm willing to make a leap of faith. Ansela was never one to be dishonest, from what I remember anyway, so I can believe her apology is genuine, especially given Ozuzanna's comment about ingame contact. Obviously RS:BLOCK still applies and I don't want to go down the route of blocking via discussion, so I think it's reasonable to consider this a last chance. User:Cqm/Signature

If you mean her being in contact with me regarding letting me know of inferior edits, it was actually in another wiki chat (CC) not in-game. Ozank Cx 11:26, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
And believe me, it's not only 1 message, it's a bunch per week. User:Jr Mime/Signature [VSTF] 12:46, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Support - I opposed a permanent block in the first place. Eight months seems enough. 5-x Talk 14:08, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Question for Ansela - What do you plan to do if you have your editing privileges restored? I think we all know there were several areas that you were very strong in, but also those you were unfortunately weak in. How do you see yourself behaving in these areas (both strong and weak)? And give it an honest though: What do you still need to improve on? MolMan 14:29, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I just want to do anti-vandalism, image work, spelling/grammar edits, and maybe work on new release pages after updates. Those are things that should, all being well, cause little to no conflict with other users. As for my weaknesses, I know I struggle with communicating ideas to other users. I intend to limit my use of talk pages, and I will endeavour to mostly use the warning/information templates that exist on the wiki, some of which I created specifically to alleviate my issues regarding phrasing and tone. Edit summaries, my other main weakness outside of chat, will also be something I'll try to be better with; limiting myself to the facts of the edit, instead of my opinions will be my main goal there. I still need to work on "live" communication, I feel. It is for that reason that I have requested the chat ban remain; I do not wish to put myself back into chat, where my temper will get the better of me at some point. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 14:49, May 30, 2015 (UTC)