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This thread was archived on 3 July 2008 by Skill.

Hi. I'm a pretty new member here on the wiki and am trying to feel my way around without messing anything up. I was looking at RuneScape:Requests_for_adminship/Nq2h and got to wondering, when does this button get checked? For punctuation? Ok. Fixing 1 or 2 spelling errors? Ok. Rewriting 2 or 3 sentences so they make more sense? Maybe not. So I was looking at Edit help and Style guide and couldn't find any information on it. So I asked User_talk:Robert_Horning about it because I saw he knows a lot about the wikis. And he tells me there is no policy so go ahead and start a proposal here to get one. I don't know about all the different edit types yet so I am hoping experienced users can come up with some ideas.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Varthlokkur (talk).

For me, I mark edits as minor if it's a small thing, like fixing a few typos, punctuation (as you said above), a link, a redirect, bolding a title, one of those small things. There's really no standard median among users. It varies for everyone. Dragon helmChiafriend12Granite body (old)Loon is best buttlord 04:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
All my edits are marked as minor automatically by wikia, and I don't think a policy makes any sense. It's too easy to forget to check the box, or uncheck the box for those who use it automatically, and what are we supposed to do, punish those who forget...? I don't think a policy is even needed or sensible. Christine 22:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I've seen you mark a lot of major things minor, like signing talk pages, and adding a section to an article? Why?
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Christine, you can change that in your preferences. Under the "editing" tab, there is a selection for "Mark all edits minor by default". Just make sure that's unchecked. It's usually off by default, but maybe you checked it by accident some time :) - sannse@fandom (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I want it like that, sannse.. =\ Christine 02:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
My rule of thumb is, if I'm adding, removing or altering content, that is, if after my edit the information found on the page is different from what it was before, it's a major edit. Anything else, such as the stuff Chia enumerated, I consider minor.--Diberville 01:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The main issue I have about the "concern" over if an edit is minor or not is how it may be perceived in terms of discussions for adminship (what started this whole conversation) or if a user may be considered a "difficult user". I do agree that some nefarious users can take advantage of the situation where most people consider a minor edit to be something to avoid reviewing when pressed for time in either doing a recent changes patrol or looking at their watchlist. It can be an indication for if somebody is being systematically damaging to the project or not. In a broad sense as well, you can gauge the use (or lack thereof) of the minor edit flag to determine how seasoned the editor is in terms of how they apply the flag on what they edit.

But at the same time, don't think this is an issue that should even be raised at all in terms of granting administrator rights. The minor edit flag is a very deep and personal issue, and something that varies considerably from one user to another. While it may be an indicator of problems, it certainly shouldn't be used ever as the "prime" evidence that somebody isn't fit to become an administrator or to get their account blocked. Furthermore, I would consider it to be very rude behavior to be highly critical of another user's pattern of using the flag if otherwise they are making useful contributions to the wiki.

I support continued discussion about what constitutes a minor edit or not, and that is something that certainly would be useful to the newer wiki users among us. Heck, I would like to learn a little bit more about what others do with this flag. But I rank its use as something akin to somebody using the spelling for the word "color" or "colour" and should be treated the same. --Robert Horning 12:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I use the minor checkbox for, like Diberville said, pretty much anything which does not change the information contained in an article, and for which I would not want to waste the time to be peer reviewed. An exception to this is that I will mark heavy restructuring as major (drastically changing the organization of a page, etc). I will use the minor flag if it's simple rewording without changing content.

I'm against the idea of using minor as a default, because one of the main uses of the minor flag is to filter out what you want to see on recent changes or your watch list. For this reason, I think we should always err on the side of calling a minor edit major, rather than the other way around. It's better for another editor to check a "major" edit on their watchlist, only to find out that it's a spelling correction, than have another editor avoid checking a "minor" edit on their watchlist (because it's marked as minor), and perhaps let a factual inaccuracy slip by.

I do think we should have a note of this in the Style guide or something, just for new editors and consistency. I don't think it's something that should be rigidly enforced, however. It wouldn't be there for the sake of being a rule, but rather as a guideline for curious new users. Endasil (Talk) @  17:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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