Talk: Recentchangestext

Revision as of 00:29, 1 June 2010

...You know people used those links. Christine^Talk 18:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Like me. And I liked it the way it was, personally. Cashman286 ^talk 18:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Me too. I added in some of those links myself, so clearly I used them. What was so bad with the old one? Christine^Talk 18:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Nothing, in my opinion. But I'll leave you and Richard to decide. Cashman286 ^talk 18:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Yew Grove capitalisation and "Wanted images" category

Changed "Yew grove" to "Yew Grove"
Added new link to "Wanted images" based on Category:Needs image

Requests for adminship | Requested featured articles | Requested featured users | Votes for deletion | Votes for undeletion

az ^talk 04:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Visions of tomorrow

RSWiki:	About - Forums - IRC - Yew Grove - Community Portal - Help pages - Requests - Vandalism
Content:	Featured articles - Featured images - Stubs - Incomplete - Needs information - Cleanup - Merge/Split
Special:	New pages - Wanted pages - New files - Wanted files - Unused files - Problem reports
Utilities:	Orphan - Dead-end - Deletion candidates - Move candidates - Broken/Double redirects - Unused categories

Seeing as this content has been changing recently, it would seem that the links here are used in multiple places on Special:RecentChanges and others are unnecessary. The legal links are located with some of these links above either in RuneScape:User help or RuneScape:About. The RuneScape:Administrators is not needed do the user requests link as well as some link should be shortened to accommodate the Wikiaphone skin (it breaks easily on the RC if browsing via an iPhone. This also replicates Wikipedia in some aspects and some Wikia projects.

If anyone ever notices this edit, see what you think about it. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 17:25, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think "RSWiki" could be replaced with "Meta", which is common jargon for a resource giving information about itself. But I suppose its unimportant. I've always been thinking about a way to organize that mess and I never got around to it, however I did have ideas about the three categories I'd have used, and it would have been Meta, Maintenance, and Community. Meta for things releating to the Wiki itself, Maintenance for things which require an editor or admin to fix, and Community for where editors ask eachother for help or input. I guess I'll actualy tyupe out what I mean:

Meta:	About - Help pages
Community:	Requests - Forums - IRC - Yew Grove - Community Portal - Featured articles - Featured images
Maintenance:	New pages - Wanted pages - New files - Wanted files - Orphan - Unused files - Unused categories Broken/Double redirects - Stubs - Incomplete - Needs information - Needs cleanup - Merged - Split Dead-end pages - Speedy deletion - Speedy move - Problem reports

Guess I went a little overboard with the formatting. >_> http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk

18:00, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

While it's alright, my main issue falls where this causes me to scroll left to right on the mobile skin. RSWiki could be changed to Meta to better suit the project. However I suggest RSWiki taking a que from WoWWiki's Recentchangestext and doing an abbreviation of the project. We could also taking a page from Wikipedia by making Meta into a wiki-link to the about us page and save more room (or change it to About:). I personally prefer Wikipedia's as it looks better on the eyes (since I mainly use the Wikiaphone skin now) than the current layout or previous versions. Believe it or not, it took a bit to think of a better version with WoWWiki and Wikipedia's MediaWiki pages in mind. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 19:32, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

So hypothetically could we solve the issue just by aligning it to the left? http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk

01:02, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think somewhere I misinterpreted something. I suggest the former without navboxes, but Meta for RSWiki and possibly a few other short changes. I prefer that as it creates dual lines for all four alignments. With the current, it looks hectic, unorganised still, and just bad. Replicating other projects and making it more organized for mobile users and for other skins would help somewhat. Other links could be removed seeing as some, like the IRC, are located on MediaWiki:Sidebar and MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar. Either way, I cannot implement these changes to MediaWiki pages, but you, or another admin via RS:BOLD, could change it just as others have in the past couple weeks and see if there is any opposition to the changes. Anyway, it's not a pressing issue at the moment, just a small change. Template:Signatures/Bluesonic43 05:20, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

So you like your version better than mine? I am hurt! Not to be clear you are saying that you think your version with "Meta" instead of "Wiki" is the way to go? My only real issue with it is that the difference between "Special" and "Utilities" is not well defined. They seem pretty much the same, but with a different name and an arbitrary division. If your main issue is that the maintenance category is a lot bigger than the other two, I can see a potential solution:

Meta:	About - Help pages - Frequently asked questions - RuneScape wiki contact - Wikia staff contact
Community:	Help requests - Yew Grove - Community Portal - Featured articles - Featured images - Forums - IRC
Maintenance:	New pages - Wanted pages - New files - Wanted files - Orphans - Needs merging/split - Stubs Incomplete - Needs information - Needs cleanup - Dead-end pages - Broken/Double redirects
Sysop:	Unused files - Unused categories - Speedy deletion - Speedy move - Problem reports - Vandalism

...and without the formatting...

Meta:	About - Help pages - Frequently asked questions - RuneScape wiki contact - Wikia staff contact
Community:	Help requests - Yew Grove - Community Portal - Featured articles - Featured images - Forums - IRC
Maintenance:	New pages - Wanted pages - New files - Wanted files - Orphans - Needs merging/split - Stubs Incomplete - Needs information - Needs cleanup - Dead-end pages - Broken/Double redirects
Sysop:	Unused files - Unused categories - Speedy deletion - Speedy move - Problem reports - Vandalism

Any of those looking better to you? http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 00:29, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

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-...You know people used those links. [[User:clv309|<Font face=Sylfaen><font color=RoyalBlue>Christine</font></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Clv309|<Font face=Sylfaen><font color=LimeGreen>Talk</font></font>]]</sup> 18:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
+...You know people used those links. [[User:clv309|<font face=Sylfaen><font color=RoyalBlue>Christine</font></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Clv309|<font face=Sylfaen><font color=LimeGreen>Talk</font></font>]]</sup> 18:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 :Like me. And I liked it the way it was, personally. [[User:Cashman286|Cashman286]] [[User talk:Cashman286|<sup>talk</sup>]] 18:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
-::Me too. I added in some of those links myself, so clearly I used them. What was so bad with the old one? [[User:clv309|<Font face=Sylfaen><font color=RoyalBlue>Christine</font></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Clv309|<Font face=Sylfaen><font color=LimeGreen>Talk</font></font>]]</sup> 18:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
+::Me too. I added in some of those links myself, so clearly I used them. What was so bad with the old one? [[User:clv309|<font face=Sylfaen><font color=RoyalBlue>Christine</font></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Clv309|<font face=Sylfaen><font color=LimeGreen>Talk</font></font>]]</sup> 18:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 Nothing, in my opinion. But I'll leave you and Richard to decide. [[User:Cashman286|Cashman286]] [[User talk:Cashman286|<sup>talk</sup>]] 18:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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 [[RuneScape:Community Portal|Community Portal]] | <span class="plainlinks">[http://runescape.wikia.com/forum/ Forums]</span> | <span class="plainlinks">[http://irc.wikia.com/irc.cgi IRC Chat]</span> | [[RuneScape:Administrators|Administrators]] | [[RuneScape:News|News]] | [[RuneScape:Yew Grove|Yew Grove]] | [[RuneScape:WikiGuild|WikiGuilds]]
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 [[RuneScape:Requests for adminship|Requests for adminship]] | [[RuneScape:Article of the Month|Requested featured articles]] | [[RuneScape:User of the Month|Requested featured users]] | [[RuneScape:Votes for deletion|Votes for deletion]] | [[RuneScape:Votes for undeletion|Votes for undeletion]]
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 [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] | [[Special:BrokenRedirects|Broken redirects]] | [[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double redirects]] | [[:Category:Speedy deletion candidates|Speedy deletion candidates]] | [[:Category:Articles to be merged|Articles to be merged]] | [[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup|Cleanup]] | [[:Category:Incomplete articles|Incomplete articles]]
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 [[Special:Lonelypages|Orphaned pages]] | [[Special:Deadendpages|Dead-end pages]] | [[Special:Shortpages|Short pages]] | [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted pages]] | [[:Category:Needs image|Wanted images]] | [[Special:Newimages|New images]] | [[Special:Newpages|New pages]]
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 ! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Meta:
-| [[RuneScape:About|About]] - [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] - [[RuneScape:Counter-Vandalism Unit|Vandalism]]
+| [[RuneScape:About|About]] - [[Help:Contents|Help pages]]
 |-
 ! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Community:
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 ! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Maintenance:
-| [[Special:NewPages|New pages]] - [[Special:WantedPages|Wanted pages]] - [[Special:NewFiles|New files]] - [[Special:WantedFiles|Wanted files]] - [[Special:LonelyPages|Orphan]] - [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused files]] - [[Special:UnusedCategories|Unused categories]] <br />[[Special:BrokenRedirects|Broken]]/[[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double redirects]] - [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] - [[:Category:Incomplete articles|Incomplete]] - [[:Category:Needs information|Needs information]] - [[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup|Needs cleanup]] - [[:Category:Articles to be merged|Merged]] - [[:Category:Articles to be split|Split]] <br /> [[Special:DeadendPages|Dead-end pages]] - [[:Category:Speedy deletion candidates|Speedy deletion]] - [[:Category:Speedy move candidates|Speedy move]] - [[Special:ProblemReports|Problem reports]]
+| [[Special:NewPages|New pages]] - [[Special:WantedPages|Wanted pages]] - [[Special:NewFiles|New files]] - [[Special:WantedFiles|Wanted files]] - [[Special:LonelyPages|Orphan]] - [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused files]] - [[Special:UnusedCategories|Unused categories]]<br />[[Special:BrokenRedirects|Broken]]/[[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double redirects]] - [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] - [[:Category:Incomplete articles|Incomplete]] - [[:Category:Needs information|Needs information]] - [[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup|Needs cleanup]] - [[:Category:Articles to be merged|Merged]] - [[:Category:Articles to be split|Split]]<br />[[Special:DeadendPages|Dead-end pages]] - [[:Category:Speedy deletion candidates|Speedy deletion]] - [[:Category:Speedy move candidates|Speedy move]] - [[Special:ProblemReports|Problem reports]]
 |}
 :Guess I went a little overboard with the formatting. >_> {{Signatures/Psycho Robot}} 18:00, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
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 :::So hypothetically could we solve the issue just by aligning it to the left? {{Signatures/Psycho Robot}} 01:02, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 ::::No, I think somewhere I misinterpreted something. I suggest the former without navboxes, but Meta for RSWiki and possibly a few other short changes. I prefer that as it creates dual lines for all four alignments. With the current, it looks hectic, unorganised still, and just bad. Replicating other projects and making it more organized for mobile users and for other skins would help somewhat. Other links could be removed seeing as some, like the IRC, are located on [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] and [[MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar]]. Either way, I cannot implement these changes to MediaWiki pages, but you, or another admin via [[RS:BOLD]], could change it just as others have in the past couple weeks and see if there is any opposition to the changes. Anyway, it's not a pressing issue at the moment, just a small change. {{Signatures/Bluesonic43}} 05:20, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
+So you like your version better than mine? I am hurt! Not to be clear you are saying that you think your version with "Meta" instead of "Wiki" is the way to go? My only real issue with it is that the difference between "Special" and "Utilities" is not well defined. They seem pretty much the same, but with a different name and an arbitrary division. If your main issue is that the maintenance category is a lot bigger than the other two, I can see a potential solution:
+{| class="plainlinks" id="recentchangestext" style="clear:both; background:transparent; border: 1px solid #aaa; padding-top:2px; font-size:smaller;"
+! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Meta:
+| [[RuneScape:About|About]] - [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] - [[RuneScape:Frequently Asked Questions|Frequently asked questions]] - [[RuneScape:Contact us|RuneScape wiki contact]] - [[W:Special:Contact|Wikia staff contact]]
+|-
+! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Community:
+| [[RuneScape:User help|Help requests]] - [[Forum:Yew Grove|Yew Grove]] - [[RuneScape:Community Portal|Community Portal]] - [[RuneScape:Article of the Month|Featured articles]] - [[RuneScape:Featured images|Featured images]] - [http://runescape.wikia.com/forum/ Forums] - [http://irc.wikia.com/runescape/ IRC]
+|-
+! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Maintenance:
+| [[Special:NewPages|New pages]] - [[Special:WantedPages|Wanted pages]] - [[Special:NewFiles|New files]] - [[Special:WantedFiles|Wanted files]] - [[Special:LonelyPages|Orphans]] - [[:Category:Articles to be merged|Needs merging]]/[[:Category:Articles to be split|split]] - [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]]<br /> [[:Category:Incomplete articles|Incomplete]] - [[:Category:Needs information|Needs information]] - [[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup|Needs cleanup]] - [[Special:DeadendPages|Dead-end pages]] - [[Special:BrokenRedirects|Broken]]/[[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double redirects]]
+|-
+! align="right" class="navbox-group"| Sysop:
+| [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused files]] - [[Special:UnusedCategories|Unused categories]] - [[:Category:Speedy deletion candidates|Speedy deletion]] - [[:Category:Speedy move candidates|Speedy move]] - [[Special:ProblemReports|Problem reports]] - [[RuneScape:Counter-Vandalism Unit|Vandalism]]
+|}
+...and without the formatting...
+{| class="plainlinks" id="recentchangestext" style="clear:both; background:transparent; font-size:smaller;"
+! align="right"|Meta:
+| [[RuneScape:About|About]] - [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] - [[RuneScape:Frequently Asked Questions|Frequently asked questions]] - [[RuneScape:Contact us|RuneScape wiki contact]] - [[W:Special:Contact|Wikia staff contact]]
+|-
+! align="right"|Community:
+| [[RuneScape:User help|Help requests]] - [[Forum:Yew Grove|Yew Grove]] - [[RuneScape:Community Portal|Community Portal]] - [[RuneScape:Article of the Month|Featured articles]] - [[RuneScape:Featured images|Featured images]] - [http://runescape.wikia.com/forum/ Forums] - [http://irc.wikia.com/runescape/ IRC]
+|-
+! align="right"|Maintenance:
+| [[Special:NewPages|New pages]] - [[Special:WantedPages|Wanted pages]] - [[Special:NewFiles|New files]] - [[Special:WantedFiles|Wanted files]] - [[Special:LonelyPages|Orphans]] - [[:Category:Articles to be merged|Needs merging]]/[[:Category:Articles to be split|split]] - [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]]<br /> [[:Category:Incomplete articles|Incomplete]] - [[:Category:Needs information|Needs information]] - [[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup|Needs cleanup]] - [[Special:DeadendPages|Dead-end pages]] - [[Special:BrokenRedirects|Broken]]/[[Special:DoubleRedirects|Double redirects]]
+|-
+! align="right"|Sysop:
+| [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused files]] - [[Special:UnusedCategories|Unused categories]] - [[:Category:Speedy deletion candidates|Speedy deletion]] - [[:Category:Speedy move candidates|Speedy move]] - [[Special:ProblemReports|Problem reports]] - [[RuneScape:Counter-Vandalism Unit|Vandalism]]
+|}
+Any of those looking better to you? {{Signatures/Psycho Robot}} 00:29, June 1, 2010 (UTC)