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#420 Smoke weed every day blaze it

There's an issue with the title of a page being too long and having the edit button overlap the page counter. This is fixed by turning the h1 into a block element, but I'm not sure it's the best solution. I think it's also a Wikia style sheet thing, and we don't want them complaining about us "messin with muh interface!" MolMan 02:12, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

They have changed it again meanwhile, by always putting the edit buttons below the header, taking up additional height, and for talk pages placing it on the right causing it to take up width from the whole article... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:45, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
You can use this in your personal js to move it up a little, making it look a lot better IMO:
$('.header-container .header-column.header-title').append('<br />').append($('.wikia-menu-button>a[data-id="edit"], .wikia-menu-button>a[data-id="addtopic"]').parent()).append($('a[data-id="comment"]').css('margin','2px 10px 0'));
Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 14:08, May 3, 2015 (UTC)


For May 1st, Wyrm heart showed a 0gp price. I do not know whether other items have been affected. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 23:20, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Same problem with infernal ashes, as noted here, but I believe the problem is on Jagex' end. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:43, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
Category:Exchange items with no price; I'm also asking ty to throw an error when TyBot attempts to change a price to 0, and for onei to have the script do the same. MolMan 14:10, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
It seems to have happened again; your new category has 106 pages already... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:18, May 12, 2015 (UTC)
See also Forum:So, about Jagex GE API bugs --Iiii I I I 03:42, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Not Gibberish - Genuine

I attempted to add a Minigame Spotlight Calendar page, as I am sure many players (Myself included) would find it useful. However, it is incomplete and very large, thus prompting a message telling me to contact an administrator. I am not attempting to vandalize the Wiki, merely add to it. Please help however you can, is the calendar is VERY FAR from being completed.

Here is a quick link to the page:

Thank you so much!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lv 8 (talk) on 07:24, May 19, 2015 (UTC).

It's a very large edit, which can be associated with people posting spam on pages, e.g. something repeated thousands of times. We have something to protect us against that, but unfortunately it can't differentiate between the two. If there's anything you need to add but can't let us know on here and we'll add it in for you :) User:Cqm/Signature
A quick question: what are all the data attributes for? Did you copy the table from something or did you add them all in manually?
I'm also removing all the inline styling in favour of using wikitables, it's the standard table we use on the wiki and looks more in keeping with other articles. User:Cqm/Signature
I'm also wondering what the data attributes are for and if they're really needed. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 08:08, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
Any chance this table could instead be implemented as an extension of Module:Rotations? Keeping it current manually would fail sooner rather than later. I'd expect those data attributes are weird copy/paste / visual editor artefacts. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:24, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
I dropped User:The Mol Man a message on IRC already asking if it could be turned into a module instead. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 08:27, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
I don't really see the value of it when we have Template:Minigame spotlight. The template is already far superior and dynamic. If someone wants to make a new module for it (a calendar would be a bit more complex than the rotations), they can go ahead. But a calendar that will cease to be updated after a couple times isn't going to prove useful in the long run. MolMan 17:23, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Move file

This one has been in the speedy move category for a while now; something is preventing us from moving it ourselves... Please move [[:File:Mugger vs Roger Murray prosecution reward scroll.png]] to [[:File:Mugger Prosecution Reward.png]] (naming consistency). Trying to move it myself results in the message:
"You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:

The file mwstore://swift-backend/runescape/images/archive/d/d9/20130712070105!Mugger_Prosecution_Reward.png already exists."
IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:08, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Chia and I are getting the same error. I'll leave it until Cam gets to see it; he might know how to fix it --Iiii I I I 05:14, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
No idea what to do with this one I'm afraid, I thought it might be something to do with the image previously existing but there's nothing to undelete in the target page (not even revisions that have been deleted with revdel) and there's no evidence of it having been moved to the current name from the target name either.
I'd guess it's a database error somewhere, I'll poke staff about it to try and get it fixed. User:Cqm/Signature
It's been passed on for investigation, staff hit the same error as well when trying to reproduce it. I'm doubtful it's actually a permission based error, possibly more likely to be something more hardwired into the image servers/code that's masquerading as a permission error. I've also linked the target filename above so we notice when it's fixed (assuming whoever fixes it suppresses the file redirect). User:Cqm/Signature
I uploaded a dummy file to that name to see if forcing an actual image to cache would fix the error (onei only created a page). Fetus was still unable to move it. MolMan 02:22, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Sortable Columns Broken with Numbers

Sortable Columns are incredibly useful for many tables. Sadly, they can also fail to work properly in some of their best applications.

Often times, columns containing numbers can fail to sort in any logical manner. For example, on Weight-reducing clothing, trying to sort clothing by their weights (a pretty reasonable use-case) is almost useless. For larger tables, this can make it very difficult to find useful information when it should be easy.

I'm not sure if this is going to be easily fixed (Gaz tells me that it's the fault of the sortable script, so I have no knowledge of how to change it), but the problem should at least be documented. As such, I would recommend that we compile a list somewhere of pages with badly-sorting tables.

Thoughts?    Guestbook  Metapig  Talk Page   21:46, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Sortable columns only works if every row has the same number of columns. That's not going to change any time soon, I think. I edited the page you mentioned above. --User:Saftzie/Signature 23:30, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
Good work. I wouldn't have figured that out. That said, I have noticed this problem on other pages in the past, so I would not say all work is done. If I see any such tables in the future, I'll try to fix them, and if I can't, I'll add a post here. Anyways, thanks!    Guestbook  Metapig  Talk Page   23:50, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
Or on RuneScape:User help, since it's not really an admin thing. --User:Saftzie/Signature 00:16, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
My bad, I thought the sortable script was ours, but its actually wikia's. It also really doesn't work well with complex table headers example. Maybe worth S:Cing but eh, they probably won't do anything Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 17:36, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
It's actually a 3rd-party jquery plugin that comes as part of the mediawiki jquery library/resources. I haven't looked at whether either wikia or mediawiki actually support it beyond minor tweaks, but I think it's still semi-actively developed. Then again, this might have been fixed in the original script so we're waiting for it to be backported which will take an age especially if it's not been backported to core yet. User:Cqm/Signature

Uploading a custom signature image

I would like to upload a small image (PNG / 3.46kB / 171x28px) to use as a signature, comparable to my established one. As far as I know, external images are not compatible with ImageMap coding. So either I would like to upload this small image, or someone can tell me how to use external images with ImageMap.

The ImageMap coding I wish to implement:

Image:Wilc0 Sig2.png|0x28px
rect 3 2 54 23 [[User:Wilc0|My Userpage]]
rect 58 4 99 20[[User talk:Wilc0|My Talkpage]]
rect 104 0 133 24 [[w:c:halo:User:Wilc0|A Bureaucrat over on Halo Nation]]
rect 136 2 169 24 [[wikipedia:Netherlands|My Homecountry!]]
desc none

The signature image:


Split the images up and put them in your signature separately. Example:
[[User talk:Wilc0|]]

etc. Since Imgur links are automatically embedded, this should show the images you want and link to the correct pages. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 22:39, June 30, 2016 (UTC)


Cam, please move Exchange:Babydragon bones/Data to Exchange:Baby dragon bones/Data. SOMEONE didn't move both pages when performing the original move, and it seems I created the latter page with the script. Cool script by the way. MolMan 12:51, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

done. couldn't u do it urself? User:Azliq7 17:22, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
No. I wanted to test the script so I used it to change the image. I couldn't move over the page that was created by the script. MolMan 17:51, July 6, 2015 (UTC)


... isn't loading from MediaWiki:Monobook.js. I just noticed it now and don't know how long it's been true. I haven't dug into it very far. Maybe other stuff isn't loading, either. --User:Saftzie/Signature 16:49, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

It appears I fell afoul of a race condition somewhere along the line. Should be all fixed now :) User:Cqm/Signature
It is for me, at least. Was going to report it if I hadn't seen this. race condition. vroooom Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 22:02, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
Yup, looks good now. --User:Saftzie/Signature 03:27, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Editing in Monobook

textarea sizes, Preview, and Show changes are all broken. JavaScript toolbar doesn't show up, either. Wikia is probably to blame, but I haven't looked into what's broken exactly. --User:Saftzie/Signature 00:55, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

FWIW, per some of the stuff below, my preferences seem NOT to have been messed with. Also, I don't get any JS errors in the JS console. Other JS, site and personal, seems to work fine, too. --User:Saftzie/Signature 03:40, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
For the textarea, the HTML has attributes rows="0" cols="0", instead of rows="25" cols="80" like it should. I wonder if MediaWiki sets those attributes via JS after it renders the HTML for the page. --User:Saftzie/Signature 03:49, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
To add to that, preview works technically, it just appears at the very bottom of the page rather than before the editing box (which is indeed tiny). Watchlist layout has been changed too, and it's quite annoying now. 18px-Avatar.png Fswe1 26px-Brassica_Prime_symbol.svg.png 07:34, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
I'm unable to reproduce those errors, are they now fixed? User:Cqm/Signature
Not fixed. Yeah, Preview and Show Changes are at the bottom of the page. Maybe I just didn't notice before. My selected preference is "Show preview before edit box," so this is just another example of a preference being ignored. The toolbar is still gone, which is another preference. Well, I can type --~~~~ by hand. That was about the only thing I used on it. I've set the textarea size with my personal css, so it's not too bad. I still suspect that there's some JS that's just not running somewhere, and not generating any error messages, either. --User:Saftzie/Signature 15:23, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
I put .newpage, .minoredit, .botedit { font-size: smaller; } in my common.css. It makes the new Watchlist a little less annoying. The Watchlist seems to have changed for Oasis, too. It was when I went to add that to common.css that I noticed the brokenness of the editor, actually. --User:Saftzie/Signature 15:48, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
Wow, Recent Changes defaults to "show last 0 changes in last 0 days," which is empty, of course. It does that even in Oasis. Wikia sure is having some fun, eh? --User:Saftzie/Signature 17:39, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
TTF, we just made a few changes. You still seeing RC set to 0 days?
If you're still seeing that, please send in a bug report since that was from last night. User:TyA/sig 17:43, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
Turns out the editor size is also a preference. Looks like this and the below section are all down to preference changes Wikia have been rolling out. User:Cqm/Signature
Woot! I was just about to add some JS to my personal monobook.js to fix it (temporarily) when I noticed Wikia fixed it first. --User:Saftzie/Signature 01:25, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
OK, now they screwed with my preferences. I just re-saved them all. --User:Saftzie/Signature 03:08, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Category module

Maybe related to the issues in monobook above, but using de default (oasis?) skin, the "Category module" and standard summaries drop down list have both started showing up again while editing a page, while in my preferences both should have been turned off. This started yesterday around 18:00 GMT, iirc. Our issue, or general wikia issue? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:30, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

My gadgets were changed/reset this afternoon as well – UTC clock was turned on, template preloads and purge link in the toolbox were turned off, etc. I think it's probably Wikia's issue --Iiii I I I 03:33, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
The "What Links Here" has also vanished from the edit dropdown for me (although it has a habit of doing that, actually). My preferences still seem as I last set them; they're just not taking effect properly... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:19, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
I've managed to remove the standard summaries drop down box; apparently that was a Gadget that somehow was re-enabled or started taking effect again? I should'be explicitly turned that off before. Though, there are several gadgets listed that are disabled for me, yet have always happened/appeared as far as I can remember. For example: edit links at Special:WhatLinksHere, rollback links on Special:RecentChanges, adding Special:WhatLinksHere to the edit drop down menu (although this one is finicky, and sometimes shows up for weeks, then disappears for weeks, also depends on which computer I'm on, ...). Now just have to get rid of that category module again, but that is definitely disabled in my preferences. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 05:18, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
There were numerous preferences issues in one of the tech updates last week, it appeared that default settings were being used instead of the user's (it should have been fixed last week however). There were reports of preferences being incorrect after that fix, but re-applying them seemed to work. As it happens, there are reports of similar issues in Wikia's skype channel last night.
Anything wrong in preferences that isn't a gadget should generally be a wikia issue. Gadget issues that can be down to us are generally coding errors, or config changes. The last time I edited MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition was some time ago though, so it shouldn't be down to us.
There is another long running issue with gadgets as well, relating to them not loading some of the time. I believe this was sort of fixed in later versions of the extension by not caching any errors. I believe Wikia have a ticket open to backport that patch, but that was a while ago so it's likely been condemned to the backlog. User:Cqm/Signature
It looks like things have been fixed? The Category module is gone again, and the WhatLinksHere is again part of my edit drop down menu. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 03:36, July 24, 2015 (UTC)


The template is used essentially to create the equivalent of a magic word USERNAME. However, for some reason, the code has been implemented so that it works only in sub-pages of the User: space.

         * Script for {{USERNAME}}
        insertUsername: {
            conditional: (
                conf.wgUserName &&
                conf.wgNamespaceNumber === 2 &&
                conf.wgTitle.indexOf('/') > -1
            exec: function () {

I suspect the intent of the conditional is to keep it out of main space and Talk: space, however it is used in spaces other than User:, like in RuneScape:Signatures. I suggest an amendment as follows:

         * Script for {{USERNAME}}
        insertUsername: {
            conditional: (
                conf.wgUserName &&
                conf.wgNamespaceNumber % 2 === 0 && (
                    conf.wgNamespaceNumber > 2
                    conf.wgNamespaceNumber === 2 &&
                    conf.wgTitle.indexOf('/') > -1
            exec: function () {

or something like it, which would still keep it out of all talk spaces and out of main space. --User:Saftzie/Signature 18:07, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

For some reason I don't remember adding the namespace check, yet apparently I did. I can only assume I did it by accident when converting everything to a config-type object and confused it with the conditional for skin.js/css redirecting. With that in mind, I'll just enabled it everywhere (as I seem to recall it's used in someone's sig which appears all over the place. User:Cqm/Signature


Please add www\.rfc-editor\.org. I'd like to had a link to to RuneScape Authenticator, but most times Wikia's spam filter blocks it. Oddly, a few times it allowed it, but then won't let me save an updated page. Thanks. --User:Saftzie/Signature 22:53, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

That message doesn't appear to exist according to Special:Allmessages. What exactly is blocking your edit: phalanx, abusefilter or something else? User:Cqm/Signature
The contents of MediaWiki:Spamprotectionmatch is what I get. --User:Saftzie/Signature 23:19, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
So it let me save it, but as I said above, most of the time it doesn't, but some of the time it does. The next person to edit will probably be blocked unless they remove the link. --User:Saftzie/Signature 23:23, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
Yo, it soulda gave you a block ID and points to the VSTF Wiki. Anyway, it's been fixed and it should work now. User:Jr Mime/Signature [VSTF] 23:25, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Default Gadgets won't turn off

For the past three weekends, I cannot turn "off" the Gadgets that are "on" by default: Template Preloads, Standard edit summaries, Add Special:MyContributions and Special:Watchlist to the Account Navigation, Minicomplete, Reference Tooltips, and Timer. If I uncheck them in prefs and save, they don't actually save. I can turn other things on and off, but those refuse to turn off. Then sometime on Monday or Tuesday, I can turn them off again. This is the third weekend it's happened, so I'm only hoping it'll resolve after the weekend like the other two. I suspect it's a Wikia thing, but is it? Thanks. --User:Saftzie/Signature 06:33, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Same issue here, so it's not just you. Likely wikia still meddling around with preferences...? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:46, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
I've made some changes to the gadgets definition in the past couple of weeks, e.g. cleaning up their structure, making sure they're all still valid, etc. I had been wondering if there were any side-effects of editing that message but I haven't got around to checking it for myself. However, what you're talking about seems a little different and more inline with the preferences issues wikia have been having for a few weeks now. Feel free to send in a bug report to see what they say :) User:Cqm/Signature
It was broken all week, then fixed yesterday. Today it's broken again. Broken appears to be the new normal state now. --User:Saftzie/Signature 18:30, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I spotted it this morning. I re-saved all my preferences only for them to reset a little while later. Apparently it's a known issue and is being worked on according to the latest (or the one before) tech update. User:Cqm/Signature
A little while ago it was still broken. Right now it seems fixed. Let's see how long it lasts. --User:Saftzie/Signature 20:05, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


This is just a simple question, since Kirkburn and DaNASCAT are being obtuse about personal JS: does edituserjs allow admins to edit their own personal js which is not common.js, monobook.js, or wikia.js? Thanks. --User:Saftzie/Signature 23:31, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

So in Wikia's php class ProtectSiteJS, one can see that Wikia is using editinterfacetrusted for that privilege. Special:ListGroupRights shows that admins have it, as well as codeadmins, a currently empty group that only Wikia can populate on this wiki. --User:Saftzie/Signature 17:53, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Right now, I think the status is:
  • Everyone
    • Has the wiki's sitewide JS enabled (unless they use a JS-blocking extension or some such)
  • Users
  • Users with editinterfacetrusted (the codeadmin usergroup)
    • Can presumably edit any JS in their userspace, but not anywhere else; need to find someone with it to actually check
  • Standard sysops
    • Same as users, can edit personal skin.js files but not other personal JS
    • Can edit specific MediaWiki namespace pages
    • Cannot edit other user's JS at all (neither skin.js nor other JS)
  • Sysops with editinterfacetrusted
    • Can edit any JS in their userspace
    • Can edit any MediaWiki namespace pages
    • Still cannot edit other user's JS
On RSW the sysop usergroup has editinterfacetrusted, but other wikis do not and may have it on a user-by-user basis, or not at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 17:58, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
As I read the code, users with editinterfacetrusted can edit js anywhere in general (e.g., dev wiki has js in main space), subject to whatever other controls are in place for the article. For example, they can't edit MediaWiki: js unless they have editinterface, which sysops have; they can't edit other users' js unless they have edituserjs, which again is sysops. editinterface grants access to MediaWiki:, but the new restrictions are new code with an additional check. If there's a wiki somewhere with sysops who don't have editinterfacetrusted, then they can only edit the skins js in MediaWiki:. On this wiki, sysops can edit any js anywhere, including the js in the User: space of other usuers, because they have both editinterfacetrusted and edituserjs. --User:Saftzie/Signature 18:36, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
It looks like Wikia removed edituserjs and editusercss from admins within the last few hours. --User:Saftzie/Signature 22:01, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Dispute on categorizing invention perks

I think we're in need of a neutral party to look at both sides of the argument here. One side is saying that perks on the Perks and Template:Perks pages should be sorted by Buffs/Debuffs/Neutral, and the other side is saying that they shouldn't be sorted because those categories are subjective. I think some perks are clearly negative or positive, and the ones that aren't could be put in neutral/unknown/ambiguous/other/etc. Right now the perks template has been categorized, but I still don't think it's a very good solution; similar perks have been split up into different categories, etc. The topic is discussed on Talk:Perks#Removal_of_buffs_and_debuffs and Template talk:Perks#Grouping. -Shaun Dreclintalk 02:29, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

What "similar perks" have been split into different categories? MolMan 02:30, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
Ah they've been moved now, some of the accuracy ones weren't in the right place. Still, I'm not a huge fan of this layout, would like to hear other people's thoughts on this. -Shaun Dreclintalk 02:35, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
It's not only objective categorization, it's smaller groups and more manageable groups. MolMan 02:37, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
Right now anything I think the only decision I, or any other admin, can suggest is going to be based on personal opinion based on which side of the argument makes more sense.
However, in the interest of trying to diffuse the debate, the essence of the dispute seems to be based on what to do with perks that provide both positive and negative traits. Unless all perks become on or the other, I doubt they will be able to be categorised as either as far as the template is concerned, although this information should probably be added to Perks as part of the existing table. The current version of the template that groups similar perks together based on what they affect seems like a more solid and less confusing foundation to work on, so I'd look at either using it as it stands or refining it a little until we reach something better. Don't forget that a navbox is only for navigation, and there's only so much information is can or should hold. User:Cqm/Signature
Yeah I guess the current sorting of the perks template is enough to break up the massive wall of perks so people can find what they're looking for. The Perks page needs to be edited now to match though, and I'm not sure how to change it. Somebody's switched it to an automated system. -Shaun Dreclintalk 02:18, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

Editing with lots of text removed

I was trying to rewrite a lot of things in the currently awfully written Wilderness/Survival guide article, but after trying to publish my edit it gave me an error message that asked me to post here due to a large amount of removed text. How do I get it fixed now? I'm really new to the wiki and all so I'm not sure how this all works. Mariatrix (talk) 09:40, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

I've added your changes in, unfortunately they were caught by a tool we use to prevent spam and vandalism which is normally good at catching vandals, but sadly less good at differentiating between good edits and bad. It seems to have triggered for you due to you having fewer than 15 edits, which is normally a relatively safe benchmark.
Putting the issues to one side, thank you very much for taking the time to make those changes! I look forward to seeing more of the same :) User:Cqm/Signature
I've also tweaked the checks to prevent this particular type of error from happening again. User:Cqm/Signature
Thank you. :3
There's still a lot to improve in the article but I'll be doing my best to fix the rest of the parts that still need to be rewritten.
If there are any similar articles with badly written, outdated information, I'll gladly work on those as well.
Mariatrix (talk) 08:03, September 6, 2016 (UTC)


99.99% sure :File:Checker-16x16.png can be deleted now. As far as I can tell, it's no longer part of any interface. MolMan 18:12, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, #yoloing it hardcore and deleted it. User:TyA/sig 18:15, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

New Monobook Wordmark

When people don't believe 150px is the max size:
--User:Saftzie/Signature 02:53, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

I pretty clearly addressed that issue: "It will be slightly cut off on desktop because it's larger than the standard Monobook sidebar, but it can easily be resized or replaced with CSS." --Iiii I I I 04:00, June 10, 2016 (UTC)
You all are the CSS wizards. Cook something up! --LiquidTalk 04:44, June 10, 2016 (UTC)
So permanently setting the logo to Monobook logo.png is the unilateral interpretation of Forum:Mono👻k_icon? I don't recall that as one of the options. It still looks like a broken implementation to me. Also, on Special: pages, using site css or js doesn't work. It's got to be Wiki.png. --User:Saftzie/Signature 18:50, June 10, 2016 (UTC)
In what way is it a broken implementation? There is no such limitation on site css or js. The reason auto-refresh works in recentchanges is because of the AjaxRC script. --Iiii I I I 19:22, June 10, 2016 (UTC)
The forum result was Wiki.png, or at least something that looks like it, not Monobook logo.png. Also see Special:Preferences. --User:Saftzie/Signature 19:46, June 10, 2016 (UTC)
I didn't explain myself fully in the forum, which is my fault – I meant the logo with the background to be for mobile, and for the Monobook logo on desktop to match File:Wiki-wordmark.png, the Oasis logo.
For all intents and purposes, the logo is overridden on articles and Special pages. Do you frequently browse Special:Preferences? --Iiii I I I 02:13, June 11, 2016 (UTC)
I think you're retconning quite a bit. The proposal was to update the Monobook logo only. There was only one image proposed. --User:Saftzie/Signature 20:46, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

Adding to Charms log marked as possible vandalism

As you can see in my recent contributions, my two charm log additions have been marked as possible vandalism. As I completely stand behind the figure I entered, I feel like they should be added to the charm log. It started with the Bloodvelds, and thinking it was a glitch, I did not post my charm log for the next few Slayer tasks until Black Demons. I think it is safe to say that whatever bot you use for this is a bit overreacting.

Cross my heart that I am not lying :^)


A possible vandalism warning is exactly that - possible. Your contribution was still added to the charm log, but just to be safe we logged it on the RS:CVU too. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 22:36, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

Slight issue on halberd pages

When I was changing some templates over yesterday, I noticed something on all of the halberd pages. Bronze halberd, for example. There's a redlink under the bonuses infobox, "Cetegory:Halberds". It's on all pages with "|type = halberd" except, the Exquisite halberd (that seems to have a separate issue, shared with other multi-tiered weapons like shark fist, in that certain attributes shared by all levels, such as type and range, don't show up at all).

It's definitely the type parameter that's causing it, but as I don't know how to edit that infobox any more, I can't fix it. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 12:12, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

The "cetegory"-typo has been fixed. But I haven't looked at the other one yet. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 12:34, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
Fixed switchfo bonuses Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 14:00, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Cadavaberry parasol

The price for Exchange:Cadavaberry_parasol does not appear to be working.

  1. REDIRECT User:Moonrise4/sig 08:05, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
I just updated the price manually. The Exchange page is working, the price just isn't being automatically updated by User:TyBot for whatever reason, so I've asked User:TyA to take a look. --Iiii I I I 16:47, August 26, 2016 (UTC)

"Offensive Language" block

Flippers McGraw has dialogue for Transcript:Bosun Higgs when on Whale's Maw. I'm however not allowed to make the edit as Flippers uses the word "sexy". I need an administrator to make the edit for me:

===Whale's Maw===
* '''Bosun Higgs:''' Well, this place is a dump.
* '''Player:''' Why, what's wrong with it?
* '''Bosun Higgs:''' There's nothing here {{nbsp}}{{sic}}it's just the world's saddest beach resort, scattered with a few shipwrecks, a few stupid turtles and some lecherous fishermen.
* '''Navigator Jemi:''' Yeah, they make me uncomfortable too.
* '''Quartermaster Gully:''' Urgh, tell me about it.
* '''Bosun Higgs:''' It's taking everything I've got not to stab their eyes out.
* ''(If [[Head of the Family]] has been completed:)''
** '''Lookout Ekahi:''' Eye, me too. It's not nice to stare.
* ''(If [[Flippers McGraw]] has joined the crew:)''
** '''Flippers McGraw:''' Well, I like it! It makes me feel sexy.

Thanks — Heaven Sent (talk) 17:04, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Flippers is not allowed to be sexy, obviously. Regardless, Coel made the edit. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 21:57, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

24 Oct 2016 color scheme

Idk where to put this complaint so ill put it here till some admin yells at me.

yesterday (10/23/16) the website was normal with white backgrounds and black words. all of a sudden today (10/24/16) the site was changed and now people who are colorblind or have other issues, can no longer read anything on the site.

the new color scheme needs to be changed a bit as pages are hard to read now and it is harder to see links without hovering the mouse over them. I understand making it more colorful, but I suggest only having the side banners be the new color scheme while reverting the actual pages to the normal white background, black words.

if you want to keep the purple pages, i suggest a different font color than white, as white is hard to read on a light colored background. or have an option to change background colors (so that people can either keep the dark color or go back to old colors)

you admins can delete this if it is in the wrong place. or move it to the proper place. don't really care as long as an admin sees this and knows that there is a problem.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 17:40, 24 October 2016‎.

I'm not color-blind, and I think Oasis is pretty unreadable now. It doesn't affect me too much, because thankfully it hasn't been applied to Monobook. I believe this change was in response to a survey in which apparently many people expressed a desire for a dark theme, calling dark text on a light background "boring." As much as I utterly despise the implementation of gadgets at Wikia, I think it would be better to make it a gadget, so it can be turned off. Or better yet, make it a gadget that is off by default. If people really want it, they can opt in. --User:Saftzie/Signature 21:44, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
Agreed, I've seen lots of people complain about this, even pm'ing me about it in-game. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 22:11, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
To calm the masses about someone thinking Saftzie's comment is correct, this is the Halloween theme for this year. Feedback has been heard and some changes have been made. User:TyA/sig 03:12, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
Now it's readable! =D Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 17:42, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
Except this is not readable still :(
Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 17:44, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Also see User:Heaven Sent/Sandbox#Arc berry cross-pollination diagramHeaven Sent (talk) 18:05, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Fixed and fixed --Iiii I I I 19:02, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

I tried to edit the sitenotice to mention that this is for halloween and if a user has a problem then to come here for instructions on how to edit their own css, but I no longer have access to it. Or I was on the wrong page. Could someone do that?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Degenret01 (talk) on 20:07, October 25, 2016 (UTC).

Diffs are still unreadable, by the way. Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 20:18, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Have you not cleared your cache like all these other people, or are you just complaining about my choice of color? If it's the latter, you know you have the ability to edit MediaWiki pages, right? --Iiii I I I 23:48, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
I think it's cache, since diffs are fine for me. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 08:52, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
They may possibly be referring to the diff shown when undoing an edit, rather than the changes for a new edit - Rawny (talk) 19:17, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
Good catch. Didn't see that yet. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 19:20, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
Fixed, thanks --Iiii I I I 02:04, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
No worries ^_^ - Rawny (talk) 02:41, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
Halloween is over now, can we please change the color theme back to normal now ? sumone10154(talk) 21:41, November 1, 2016 (UTC)
I think the idea is to revert the theme when the 2016 Hallowe'en event leaves the game (7 November I believe). — Heaven Sent (talk) 22:56, November 1, 2016 (UTC)
Pls fix Template:Infobox Monster new [1] sumone10154(talk) 22:03, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
Someone might correct me, but I'm pretty sure those colours are deliberate. User:Cqm/Signature

Children of Mah talk page "un-redirect" request

Children of Mah is an important upcoming quest with major lore implications/story impact, but its talk page currently redirects to Dreams of Mah's talk page (since in 2014, it was just an incorrect name for the Mahjarrat and other Freneskae tribes).

I think it would be a good idea to give CoM back its talk page before it comes out. Thoughts?

Toa Neya (talk) 10:33, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Already dealt with Template:Signatures/Ciphrius Kane 10:52, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Halp with my userscripts

So, how do I move my userscripts, including its entire history, to the mediawiki domain? Now that Wikia has decided we need babysitting, I can't update [[User:Joeytje50/qc.js]] anymore, which is required, because the cross-domain AJAX request site has changed its url (it's /go instead of /get now). So yea, I want to do a little maintenance, but I can't. How do I fix this? I'm sure someone here knows how to do this. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 00:28, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Send in a message to Special:Contact/general and ask staff to move it. User:TyA/sig 01:08, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Wrong values

On the exchange pages, all the silver Jewellry have the wrong alchemy (low and high) and value prices. The right values is listed on the link the item, but on the exchange page is blatantly wrong. Here is an example:

Topaz ring and Exchange:Topaz ring

I don't know if it's the right page to post this, sorry if it isn't and thanks in advance =D. X_darKnight (talk) 05:27, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

You can actually correct that yourself - on the Exchange: page, click the "Edit exchange data" button at the top, and then change the number in the Value parameter like this. Alchemy values are tied to the item's value, so changing that will fix both high and low alch. --Iiii I I I 05:51, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
Oh, sorry about that, didn't see it. Thank you very much! =D. X_darKnight (talk). 05:58, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
Actually, there isn't a "Edit exchange data" at the top like in your print screen. Here: Missing in the red square. X_darKnight (talk) 06:07, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
Did you try another browser? It seems Javascript isn't adding the button like it's supposed to, although I'm not sure why it loads everything else. You can always edit that data directly (on Module:Exchange/Topaz ring, for example) by clicking the [info] link in the bottom left. --Iiii I I I 06:27, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
I didn't try it but I'm going to edit using the info, thanks! =p X_darKnight (talk) 06:53, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Problems when signing comments in a certain page

Hello. I am having problems when signing comments on the Wikian title's nomination page. The thing is, it uses the new editor for some reason. I have no problem adding the 4 characters or pressing the sign button on the old editor (which this page uses), but on the new one, it automatically adds nowiki tags to my tildes, and even if i manually remove them, it just adds them back again automatically. I spoke to some people and apparently many users have reported this, and it's on every wikia, not just here. If a fix can't be found, could there be a way to trigger the old editor in all pages that require signing, such as Talk pages and pages in the RuneScape: namespace? --Raven (blue).png Crowborn (Talk) 15:43, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
I always use the source code editor everywhere, you can choose it in your preferences. Other than that I wouldn't know what would trigger that other editor. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 15:46, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
But the auto-nowiki problem i described also happens in the source editor. It's a matter of the "old editor" as in the one that shows up when editing an image's file or creating a new section here, for example. ~~~~ (note how, now that the page is making me use the new editor, my signature didn't work)  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crowborn (talk) on 15:50, December 30, 2016 (UTC).
Have you perhaps tried to force the page to edit in source mode via the "Edit this page"/"Add topic" context menu?[2] I'm not able to reproduce the symptoms you're experiencing, but that might be a workaround for the time being. — Heaven Sent (talk) 20:27, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
Using the "source mode" of the Visual Editor is not the same as the source editor. Visual Editor (and before that the Rich-Text Editor, sometimes called the "classic" editor) have been the source (no pun intended) of may editing problems. They're mostly intended for people who just want to edit the words, not necessarily the format or other wiki-markup, on a page. As Salix says above, you can change your preference to the source editor, the real one. --User:Saftzie/Signature 23:52, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Moving Batwing robes to Batwing equipment

I tried moving batwing robes to batwing equipment as the set includes more than just armour, but the destination already exists as a redirect, so the system won't let me move the page. Is an admin able to move it? Logialian (talk) 07:16, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the same goes for imphide robes and spider silk robes. Logialian (talk) 07:19, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Done, and moved wizard robes too. --Iiii I I I 07:39, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Renaming corrupt ancient warriors' item images

Would an admin be able to rename images of corrupt ancient warriors' equipment? After the January 16 patch, the warriors' names in items are capitalised now. Logialian (talk) 06:52, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

They're on the to do list here. I've been slowly moving items by myself and it's a huge pain in the ass, especially when they have Exchange pages. It would be great if other administrators helped out (??????????) --Iiii I I I 07:15, January 24, 2017 (UTC)
Wow that's a huge list >.< Logialian (talk) 08:03, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Broken Links: Starting Out Guides

In the Starting Out Guides for new users, i.e. Runescape:Editing/Your First Edit, there are some links that no longer link to a wiki page. I am bringing this to administrator's attention to fix as I don't know what guide would be replacing this outdated link and this seems to me to be an administration fix? Thanks :)Wynn Andye (talk) 21:23, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Wymm Andye, thanks for the report! I believe that rather than them no longer linking to a wiki page, it is that the page hasn't been created yet. I believe IsobelJ is the person working on creating them, but simply hasn't gotten there yet. User:TyA/sig 21:34, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
Can confirm that this is the case :) Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 17:52, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Requesting a rename in Third Age item pages

I renamed some Third Age items and caused a lot of image red links (sorry). A list of the items is below.
What I did: third age -> Third Age.

--X-popek (talk) 14:30, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Just for future reference you can use the link to the page instead of the full URL. E.g. Drygore mace (Third Age) instead of the full URL. :) I'll take a look at the images if I7 didn't beat me to it yet. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 14:43, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
It seems Coel already moved some. :) Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 14:57, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Crossed off the ones that are moved. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 15:45, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I already knew that :P. I had the list to use on Discord as someone was already moving some images. They didn't answer me but I kept the list.--X-popek (talk) 16:08, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Done! I've moved all the images, luckily these items are untradeable, otherwise the GE pages would've needed to be moved as well :S Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 22:45, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Unlocking Throne of Miscellania Quick Guide

It looks like the quick guide for Throne of Miscellania was protected due to excessive vandalism ~2 years ago.

Perhaps we could consider opening it back up again? The page is lacking some basics like links and chat options, and has minor grammatical errors which could be fixed.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vividmind (talk).

Okay, I have unprotected it. :) User:TyA/sig 22:09, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Back to the freezer offensive error

Trying to create Back to the Freezer Quick Guide

I'm trying to save my back to the freezer quick guide but it won't let me because I'm "inserting offensive language" I've checked through what I'm trying to add and I can't find anything offensive. So... What should I do? :(

(I've got the whole code saved in a notepad so I've not lost any work by having this problem, just I can't create the guide if it thinks I'm being offensive....) Meeeeeeee39 (talk) 15:51, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

UPDATE: I'm not sure if it's possible to, but I can try and post the code here/message it to an admin if they want to check it and point out whatever it is that's causing this problem? Meeeeeeee39 (talk) 15:55, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

I don't know what was causing the issue, but I posted the guide on his behalf to get past it. Back to the Freezer/Quick guide Weird gloop.png @Gaz#7521 16:10, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Please revert CSS

... this edit at least an hour before reset Tuesday evening (Feb 28)/Wednesday morning (Mar 1). It breaks pengLocation tables (and the fix is not to add class="lighttable" to peng tables). Thanks. --User:Saftzie/Signature 07:43, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Now, please, anyone. --User:Saftzie/Signature 21:54, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
this should fix it Lily of the valley.png ThePsionic White Rabbit.png 22:25, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that works, too, with less to boot. Thanks. --User:Saftzie/Signature 22:36, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

File merge

File:Sliske_(Children_of_Mah).png needs merging onto File:Sliske TWW.png, page was apparently already edited to make way for the move a week ago. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 01:20, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

So to make it clear, you want to replace TWW with CoM, but retain TWW's filehistory, correct? Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 08:56, March 14, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that is correct. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:15, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
Done! Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 12:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Offensive language alerts when adding interlanguage links

Hello. I am trying to add a PT interlanguage link to the Black hatchet page, and i am receiving an offensive language alert that is blocking me from saving my changes. This is happening because in Portuguese, "Black" is "Negro", which i understand is sometimes used as a racist insult in English. However black equipment was named like this in Portuguese. Could an admin do something? Crowborn (talk) 17:07, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Link added, but someone else will have to update the filter. Since it's a private filter, I can't see it, but I can easily imagine it's a pile of spaghetti. --User:Saftzie/Signature 17:19, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
From the filter's comments: "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THIS FILTER.". Are you ok with us just giving you rollback instead as a workaround? User:Cqm/Signature
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THIS FILTER. Seems like the admins need to talk about their regexes. --User:Saftzie/Signature 20:37, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
I think have have Suppa to thank for this particular mess of spaghetti. I started trying to list all the words it matches and got bored after the 64 variants of a word for male genitalia including w3n!z. I had no idea that was even a recognisable word.
I suspect there's some technical limitation that was there at some point, I have no idea of it's still there or what happens if you cross it. I'll probably have to find one of Wikia's devs to explain what it means and if it's still valid. User:Cqm/Signature
Well, since I can't see it, I just have to imagine that someone got paranoid that any edits would break most/all the regexes. Maybe adding something like & ! added_lines irlike "^[[\w\w:.+?]]$", although that allows [[pt:w3n!z]]. That would allow something that's only a language link. --User:Saftzie/Signature 00:43, December 8, 2016 (UTC)
It's laid out as two massive regexes, one for words that should never appear and ones that should not appear standalone. The difference in terms of regex, aside from the content, is that the latter is surrounded by \b. From there, it's checks whether if the user is not in any specified groups, whether the edit was to a selection of namespaces. Next it checks if the text is only in the added text, so avoid triggering for edits that edit a page with it in already and also applies the second regex to new or moved titles and new users.
The full warning for the filter is:
My guess is that Suppa came up against something he couldn't workaround and decided to leave the filter for the time being. After some research, I'm still clueless what the warning could refer to. It's not the condition limit as it's up to 77/1000 and it's not the text length which is 3k/65k if T21606 is correct. User:Cqm/Signature
Thanks for adding the link, but it would be nice to find a fix for the filter. There are many pages waiting to be created that come with that name, and having to request your attention at each case would be inconvenient. Crowborn (talk) 18:34, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
I know it's not a permanent solution, but until it's fixed, you can always request my help. :) Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 20:04, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Oh jeeze, I should probably respond to this. The filter is very much a mess, mainly thanks to me. The do not attempt to modify is because of a bug that existed in a previous version of MediaWiki that caused the filter to match every edit if the filter's length exceeded a certain threshold. That seems to have been fixed, so that shouldn't be an issue. It's been on my mind that the filters should all be reworked to be a) more modular, b) more accurate, and c) more legible. I'll give it a think over the next few days and see if I have any ideas. I'm open to suggestions, of course. Suppa chuppa Talk 21:09, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
I have a suggestion above that should work. Although it would allow edits that add only language links, which is not ideal, it would be better than now. --User:Saftzie/Signature 21:37, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that is true. I'm wonder how you could make it a bit more generic though. Suppa chuppa Talk 01:44, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Handing out rollback (which is exempt from the filter) is still the easier workaround which gives us much more time to figure out an overhaul. User:Cqm/Signature 07:59, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Except then you're handing out elevated privileges to work around a bug that has nothing to do with the privileges themselves. --User:Saftzie/Signature 21:47, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
I disagree. While the rights traditionally associated with rollback do not extend to exemption from abuse filters, that this filter includes such an exemption means we've implicitly created a new user right. If a trusted user has demonstrable need for a right, then they are given said rights. As we dont have a specific group for this, rollback is the next best option. User:Cqm/Signature
That's like saying "Just do everything as Administrator on a Windows machine." The ability to add language links shouldn't require additional privileges. Maybe we should just make everyone a rollback, then. --User:Saftzie/Signature 02:32, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
So... I think the best way to organize/clean up the filters themselves would be to separate them out into different filters by some subattribute of the filter. This way, we wouldn't have 1 massive filter that outright blocks any edit that is perceived to be bad, and it would also increase readability/ease of modifying the filters.
If we do this, we could additionally overhaul the way in which the filters use regex to match words, because it's pretty heavy handed right now, and is one of the main reasons that the filter seems to have many false positives. Suppa chuppa Talk 10:54, December 28, 2016 (UTC)
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