RuneScape:Chat/Logs/09 June 2016

[2016-06-08 23:42:44] <Ozuzanna> build. the. wall.
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[2016-06-08 23:56:58] <Coelacanth0794> hi cook
[2016-06-08 23:57:33] <Coelacanth0794> did you see this yet? http://i.imgur.com/NV8hCr3.gifv
[2016-06-08 23:58:16] <Cook_Me_Plox> awwwwww
[2016-06-09 00:03:02] <Ozuzanna> lol ^
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[2016-06-09 01:14:40] <Elune_Anzu> Cook Me Plox is number one. That is all
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[2016-06-09 02:17:22] <Scuzzy_Beta> I need pictures
[2016-06-09 02:17:28] <Scuzzy_Beta> of spiderman
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[2016-06-09 04:48:36] <Speedbird003> hey Im a noob, Im doign he sheild quest, I need someone from the pheiox gang to help me out
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[2016-06-09 08:57:31] <Haidro> (qc) The current D&D that gives you an extra [[Treasure Hunter]] key is Circus.
[2016-06-09 08:57:35] <Haidro> (qc) The current location of the [[Circus]] is Gertrude|Gertrude's house.
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[2016-06-09 13:13:21] <Sojurnstrs> hi
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[2016-06-09 13:15:55] <Ozuzanna> jagex fucked up you can kill the catacomb abyssal demons in OSRS with no slayer level requirement
[2016-06-09 13:15:57] <Ozuzanna> gg whip prices
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[2016-06-09 13:22:56] <Ozuzanna> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13344554_285685715153039_5420019692587688873_n.jpg?oh=7973cc7d6ce4a81c93c04b0922b3d70e&oe=57D3EC3A
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[2016-06-09 13:26:58] <Scuzzy_Beta> hello
[2016-06-09 13:42:14] <Scuzzy_Beta> [[Heist]]
[2016-06-09 13:44:45] <Ozuzanna> cook i found a bug
[2016-06-09 13:45:12] <Ozuzanna> gaz
[2016-06-09 13:45:15] <Ozuzanna> how did dtm unban himself
[2016-06-09 13:45:18] <Ozuzanna> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dtm142
[2016-06-09 13:45:28] <Ozuzanna> oh wait it wasnt infinite was it
[2016-06-09 13:45:31] <Ozuzanna> never mind (fp)
[2016-06-09 13:46:28] <TonyBest100> Yeah, the chat ban log was something that expired today
[2016-06-09 13:46:41] <Ozuzanna> I wonder if he actually will come back
[2016-06-09 13:47:50] <Ozuzanna> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Dtm142#Hello
[2016-06-09 13:47:54] <Ozuzanna> ([[]]H)
[2016-06-09 13:50:23] <Ozuzanna> http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/2007scape/images/6/62/Durial_chathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20160606150910
[2016-06-09 13:51:09] <Scuzzy_Beta> im making a forum thread suggestion Heist improvements, anyone have any ideas?
[2016-06-09 13:56:53] <Scuzzy_Beta> [[Silverhawk boots]]
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[2016-06-09 14:31:24] <Sojurnstrs> how do i make one column sortable one not
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[2016-06-09 14:53:29] <Sojurnstrs> hi
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[2016-06-09 14:56:11] <Gaz_Lloyd> class="unsortable"
[2016-06-09 14:56:26] <Gaz_Lloyd> in the header cell for the column to not sort
[2016-06-09 14:56:50] <Gaz_Lloyd> class="sortable" in the table definition (so probably class="wikitable sortable"
[2016-06-09 14:57:23] <Sojurnstrs> a+
[2016-06-09 14:57:29] <Sojurnstrs> yeah got it
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[2016-06-09 15:10:04] <Coelacanth0794> hi
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[2016-06-09 15:11:19] <Spineweilder> hmm
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[2016-06-09 18:44:17] <Paul_Z> do you guys think we should include/change the names of the Barrows item sets to reflect their in-game names?
[2016-06-09 18:45:21] <Paul_Z> for example when you hover of a piece of Barrows equipment it'll say it's part of an item set. specific examples: Karil's Taint, Linza's Disgrace, Akrisae's Doom, etc.
[2016-06-09 18:45:45] <Paul_Z> hover over*^
[2016-06-09 18:46:06] <Jlun2> ?
[2016-06-09 18:46:06] <RSChatBot> Jlun2, Coelacanth0794 wanted to tell you @ 2016-06-08 21:42:08 UTC: so i remember you fixed the thing with the chocolate chick cannon gif... is the same issue happening like a hundred times on http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vanstrom_punch.gif ?
[2016-06-09 18:46:59] <Jlun2> !tell Coelacanth0794 does not seem like it at a glance
[2016-06-09 18:46:59] <RSChatBot> Jlun2: I'll tell Coelacanth0794 that the next time I see them.
[2016-06-09 18:47:08] <Paul_Z> what do you think jlun
[2016-06-09 18:47:24] <Jlun2> @paul
[2016-06-09 18:47:24] <Jlun2> move to in game name, and make old page redirect then
[2016-06-09 18:47:43] <Paul_Z> instead of calling it for example [[Linza the Disgaced's eqipment]] we would have "Linza's Disgrace" yeah?
[2016-06-09 18:47:58] <Paul_Z> woops
[2016-06-09 18:48:09] <Paul_Z> [[Linza the Disgraced's equipment]]
[2016-06-09 18:48:14] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Linza_the_Disgraced
[2016-06-09 18:48:19] <Jlun2> thats for the npc tho
[2016-06-09 18:48:38] <Paul_Z> ik but
[2016-06-09 18:48:46] <Paul_Z> look at the Barrows template
[2016-06-09 18:48:52] <Atheist723> Sounds like DCUO equipment sets' names, lol.
[2016-06-09 18:48:54] <Paul_Z> [[Template:Barrows]]
[2016-06-09 18:49:07] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Guthan_the_Infested%27s_equipment
[2016-06-09 18:49:08] <Jlun2> ?
[2016-06-09 18:49:10] <Jlun2> what about it
[2016-06-09 18:49:37] <Paul_Z> sec
[2016-06-09 18:51:23] <Paul_Z> https://gyazo.com/a479048a5dafb137920989b7ec758f7b
[2016-06-09 18:51:23] <Paul_Z> 
[2016-06-09 18:51:23] <Paul_Z> where it says the item set: "Karil's Taint", that'd be the "cannon" name for it instead of "Karil the Tainted's equipment"
[2016-06-09 18:51:44] <Jlun2> ah
[2016-06-09 18:51:50] <Jlun2> make redirect then
[2016-06-09 18:51:55] <Paul_Z> ok
[2016-06-09 18:52:01] <Jlun2> since this seems newish
[2016-06-09 18:52:04] <Paul_Z> yeah
[2016-06-09 18:56:19] <Paul_Z> if I move the pages and leave a redirect behind is that acceptable...?
[2016-06-09 18:56:45] <Paul_Z> eh but then there'd be double redirects
[2016-06-09 18:56:45] <Paul_Z> :S
[2016-06-09 18:57:55] <Jlun2> hm
[2016-06-09 18:58:09] <Jlun2> uh
[2016-06-09 18:58:20] <Jlun2> use [[Special:Whatlinkshere]] to fix i guess
[2016-06-09 18:58:35] <Jlun2> wont help with template transclusion redirects tho
[2016-06-09 18:59:53] <Paul_Z> can you specify what you mean by "template transclusion redirects"?
[2016-06-09 19:00:45] <Jlun2> example: if template:Barrows use a template, say "plink", and that also happens to link to a redirect
[2016-06-09 19:01:27] <Jlun2> it will (last time i tried) display all pages used
[2016-06-09 19:01:37] <Jlun2> and excluding transclusion option wont fix that
[2016-06-09 19:02:18] <Paul_Z> ok
[2016-06-09 19:08:54] <Paul_Z> hmm it seems golden barrows stuff also gets labelled as being part of the same item sets as their regular variants, and augmented stuff too
[2016-06-09 19:09:00] <Paul_Z> problem
[2016-06-09 19:09:39] <Jlun2> ?
[2016-06-09 19:09:44] <Jlun2> as in same in game name?
[2016-06-09 19:09:45] <Jlun2> uh
[2016-06-09 19:09:56] <Jlun2> <set> (Golden)
[2016-06-09 19:10:05] <Jlun2> <set> (Augmented)?
[2016-06-09 19:10:06] <Paul_Z> yeah the item set name when hovering
[2016-06-09 19:10:13] <Paul_Z> good idea
[2016-06-09 19:25:57] <Paul_Z> now I'm getting Mol Man asking me to stop doing what I'm doing -______________-
[2016-06-09 19:26:48] <Paul_Z> halp
[2016-06-09 19:28:37] <Paul_Z> jlun pls
[2016-06-09 19:29:18] <Jlun2> idk
[2016-06-09 19:29:22] <Jlun2> show him the image i guess?
[2016-06-09 19:29:56] <Paul_Z> Please stop changing those articles to the names of the set effect. Those articles describe the equipment as a whole, whereas "Brother's <X>" is only one aspect of it."
[2016-06-09 19:30:04] <Paul_Z> ....
[2016-06-09 19:30:17] <Jlun2> your gazo link i mean
[2016-06-09 19:30:21] <Paul_Z> yeah
[2016-06-09 19:30:54] <Paul_Z> I mean when it says "Item Set: Karil's Taint" I think that's a pretty clear-cut name
[2016-06-09 19:31:32] <Jlun2> if it helps, mols in game and in discord chat atm
[2016-06-09 19:31:46] <Jlun2> https://discordapp.com/channels/177206626514632704/177206626514632704
[2016-06-09 19:31:48] <Jlun2> this i think
[2016-06-09 19:31:48] <Paul_Z> idk what the latter is
[2016-06-09 19:31:56] <Jlun2> its a browser based skype
[2016-06-09 19:31:59] <Paul_Z> eh
[2016-06-09 19:32:01] <Paul_Z> nty
[2016-06-09 19:32:30] <Paul_Z> am I clear to proceed here? we're sure I'm correct in renaming the pages?
[2016-06-09 19:32:59] <Paul_Z> https://gyazo.com/a479048a5dafb137920989b7ec758f7b
[2016-06-09 19:33:20] <Paul_Z> like what he called the set effect is actually the set bonus detailed at the bottom
[2016-06-09 19:33:26] <Paul_Z> I'm 90% on this
[2016-06-09 19:34:13] <TonyBest100> Item Set refers to the set effect that the full armour gives. It is not what the full set is actually called.
[2016-06-09 19:35:33] <Paul_Z> https://gyazo.com/4e7d0c5ce42674ae0c57a624d33a1632
[2016-06-09 19:35:42] <Paul_Z> tell what a Lumberjack effect is
[2016-06-09 19:36:47] <TonyBest100> It's just easier to have it as "Barrows brother's name" equipment, infact thats how it's been for years here, why change it
[2016-06-09 19:37:13] <Paul_Z> because it's incorrect
[2016-06-09 19:37:23] <Paul_Z> appeal to tradition fallacy pls
[2016-06-09 19:38:35] <Paul_Z> and I'd argue it's easier to have the cannon name
[2016-06-09 19:38:42] <TonyBest100> It's not technically incorrect, when people are searching for the set they're obviously going to search for [[Dharok the Wretched's equipment]], not the less common item set name that only became a recent addition to the game.
[2016-06-09 19:38:59] <Paul_Z> that's what redirects are for
[2016-06-09 19:40:05] <Paul_Z> also you seem to have admitted that the in-game names are the correct ones
[2016-06-09 19:40:25] <Paul_Z> "the less common item set name that only became a recent addition to the game"
[2016-06-09 19:40:34] <Paul_Z> yet it's the only official name
[2016-06-09 19:40:55] <Paul_Z> the old names for the pages were descriptors
[2016-06-09 19:41:00] <Paul_Z> not verbatim
[2016-06-09 19:41:43] <Paul_Z> do I not have a valid point here?
[2016-06-09 19:42:20] <Jlun2> well
[2016-06-09 19:42:27] <Jlun2> do you have other item sets for example?
[2016-06-09 19:42:32] <Jlun2> like uh
[2016-06-09 19:42:46] <Jlun2> skilling sets that also say "item set: <thing>"
[2016-06-09 19:42:53] <Paul_Z> sec
[2016-06-09 19:43:32] <Jlun2> and uh
[2016-06-09 19:43:34] <Jlun2> show that to mol
[2016-06-09 19:44:35] <Paul_Z> juicy stuff coming in 2 minutes
[2016-06-09 19:44:39] <Paul_Z> making a little montage
[2016-06-09 19:49:49] <Paul_Z> https://gyazo.com/98fe7869765edf7b47d7b5566c67275e
[2016-06-09 19:49:57] <Paul_Z> and I could show lots more
[2016-06-09 19:51:31] <Paul_Z> :D
[2016-06-09 19:51:58] <Paul_Z> is that proof enough?
[2016-06-09 19:52:12] <Jlun2> please post on mol's talk, since he's the one reverting, not people here :P
[2016-06-09 19:52:17] <Paul_Z> oki
[2016-06-09 19:53:30] <TonyBest100> Tbh, the page names themselves don't need changing, but there's nothing wrong with making redirects like [[Linza's Disgrace]] to go to said equipment page, as that link has already done
[2016-06-09 19:54:24] <Paul_Z> except Linza's Disgrace is the name that needs to talk precedence
[2016-06-09 19:54:57] <Paul_Z> take*
[2016-06-09 19:55:24] <TonyBest100> Yet we have [[Constructor]] redirect to Constructor's outfit, and the other set names redirect to their outfit/equipment pages for consistency, just seems unncessary to have it the other way round
[2016-06-09 19:56:17] <Jlun2> jagex names are annoying like that
[2016-06-09 19:56:34] <Jlun2> i think they changed for example mahogany dress box twice now
[2016-06-09 19:57:02] <TonyBest100> Yeah, I think they did too, and the same thing will soon happen to flatpacks when they get (flatpack) added to the end of them
[2016-06-09 20:00:23] <Battleben> In the case of the Barrows items specifically, "Dharok's Might" is definitely the name of the set effect, not the set
[2016-06-09 20:00:23] <RSChatBot> Battleben, Coelacanth0794 wanted to tell you @ 2016-06-08 21:40:19 UTC: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tomb_on_fire.png
[2016-06-09 20:00:23] <TonyBest100> Patch Notes preview livestream happening tomorrow :)
[2016-06-09 20:02:56] <Paul_Z> @ben if that's true, why is labelled as the item set, in the same way that all those other examples I showed in that gyazo are?
[2016-06-09 20:04:44] <Jlun2> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[2016-06-09 20:04:46] <Jlun2> :)
[2016-06-09 20:05:19] <Battleben> Because the others don't actually have named set effects like Barrows does
[2016-06-09 20:05:34] <Battleben> And IIRC the barrows set effect tooltip predates the others
[2016-06-09 20:05:44] <Jlun2> uh
[2016-06-09 20:05:47] <Jlun2> how about warpriest?
[2016-06-09 20:05:49] <Jlun2> or uh
[2016-06-09 20:05:54] <Jlun2> anything else with set effects
[2016-06-09 20:08:09] <Paul_Z> ^
[2016-06-09 20:08:46] <Paul_Z> @ben that still doesn't answer why the set effect would be listed as the actual item set
[2016-06-09 20:11:44] <Battleben> Because Jagex are super inconsistent.
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[2016-06-09 20:12:41] <Battleben> That and "Dharok the Wretched's equipment" wouldn't fit :P
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[2016-06-09 20:18:29] <Paul_Z> well I still stand by my opinion on the names
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[2016-06-09 20:34:50] <Jlun2> hm
[2016-06-09 20:35:01] <Jlun2> FA is so bad even the former staff/admins hate it
[2016-06-09 20:35:17] <Jlun2> not surprised someone went insider
[2016-06-09 20:35:18] <Jlun2> lol
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[2016-06-09 21:28:04] <Gaz_Lloyd> 7:^]
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[2016-06-09 21:43:49] <Jlun2> test
[2016-06-09 21:51:36] <Coelacanth0794> test cheat sheet
[2016-06-09 21:51:36] <RSChatBot> Coelacanth0794, Jlun2 wanted to tell you @ 2016-06-09 18:46:59 UTC: does not seem like it at a glance
[2016-06-09 21:51:46] <Coelacanth0794> ?
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[2016-06-09 21:59:09] <Jlun2> the gif you posted
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[2016-06-09 22:42:18] <Blue_PeaHat> hey guys, im trying to help update the wiki, but i don't know how to add stuff like templates to the pages like the gem token crown and necklace saying that it
[2016-06-09 22:42:22] <Blue_PeaHat> is discontinued
[2016-06-09 22:42:52] <Jlun2> ??
[2016-06-09 22:42:53] <Jlun2> oh
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