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I think this should be deleted per the non-existent item because its fake. Not real. All it'd do is confuse players into thinking that there actually was a black party hat at one time or another. Would we shop a hypothetical dragon kiteshield and put it up? http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk
01:29, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
Weak delete - Per Psycho. ~
Sentry Telos Talk 01:39, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
Weak delete - However, it might work if we put a caption on it saying that it's fake/an artist's rendering/a party hat colored black on MS Paint. Besides, if someone reads the article they wouldn't be confused. But, since it would be weird to have images of most other nonexistant items (the exceptions being the soul tiara and talisman since those images were on the website via URL manipulation), I think this one should go. 
Kudos 2 U Talk! Edit count! Contribs! 02:09, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Strong Keep - If only due to the number of pages that use/link to this image. It won't confuse players at all, and it isn't being used as a vanity/personal image in the least. We already covered the topic of this image as an article.... which has already been merged into the more general party hat article. This is a highly sourced rumor/myth/legend and is something of note that also fits with RS:IAR. For the most part I agree that non-existent items should be deleted, but this is clearly an exception that proves the rule rather than the target of something that should go. --Robert Horning 08:23, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I really think that's absurd. Its fake. No one ever saw this image until someone posted it on the wiki. Furthermore, its 100% speculation. Its what someone thought a black partyhat might have looked like, but anyone who remembers the Grim reaper hood knows that Jagex's idea of "black" doesn't always truck with everyone else's. A hypothetical image showing what an item which never existed might have looked like is about the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen defended. And surely you're not going to tell me that we should keep it just because its used a lot? Do you know why its used a lot? Because its used someone's signature! So by changing the signature page, we'll get rid of almost all the uses. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk
17:19, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Strong keep - Per Robert. 
Oil4 Talk 15:01, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Keep - Per Oli. bad_fetustalk 15:05, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Keep - Though a notice that it's fake should be added to the description page. Tedjuh10 (Talk) 17:37, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Weak delete - per Psycho. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 05:13, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Delete - Per Psycho. 
Evil Yanks talk 07:20, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Stong delete - Can only serve to confuse people that dont read the article properly. --
Mercifull 
(Talk) 09:11, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Delete per Mercifull. Or, as the section speculates, take a red partyhat and turn the brightness down. But that's not really necessary. User:C Teng/sig 16:10, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Delete - Per Psycho 
• NnK Oliver • (600613) talk 16:13, November 15 2009 (UTC)
Delete Per above. By turning down my contrast on my computer..I can make a black fire rune. Should that get a page? 
Atlandy
22:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Keep - Per Robert 
Dindirindin!!! 16:29, November 16 2009 (UTC)
Neutral - Both Psycho and Robert bring up very good points, so I'm going to stay neutral here. ~ Sentry Telos Talk 18:49, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
Delete - If this is kept maybe we should all just draw randomly non-existent items and upload them (Sarcasm if you can't tell) this has as much of a right to be here as a theoretical picture of say..a dragon war hammer.. come to think of it I take that back the dragon war hammer would have more of a right to be here, it might exist one day, jagex itself stated there will be no more party hats and as this never existed there shouldn't be a picture of it. Chaos knight 08:00, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
Strong delete - All this image does is to confuse people who read the article (including me), making us believe at first glance that a nonexistant item existed at some point...which is confusing enough already. 
Lil cloud 9 Talk 18:28, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
Strong keep - It did use to be real once, it's historical!!! Don't we have a template for that?? 
Tehnoobshow101 16:40, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Strong delete —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fllour (talk) on 17:05, December 3, 2009 (UTC).
Strong keep The image may be faked, but it's a good fake, and makes the point better.
Strong delete - It's a personal image imo. A person made it themselves, and it has never existed, therefore is it non existant, and it is a personal image. It should simply be deleted. User:Lil diriz 77/Signatures 01:22, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
Strong keep As per Robert. --Liquidhelium 14:38, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
Delete There are very clearly no plans for this, and it does not and did not exist. Its like Sailing. Just Speculation~~Signed,Bulbear4444
~~ 16:09, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
Delete - Because its a fake, not an image of RS but of someone's paint skillz (this probably didnt even need photoshop). 
Tollerach hates SoF 
20:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
DELETE - It's 100% fake FredeTalk 20:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Comment - I would like to note that this image may in fact be from the game. The article about the black phat says that if one would have a red phat and then put their brightness on the lowest setting, it would appear black. So this may be from the game. Oil4 Talk 20:28, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
- "An image of a hypothetical black party hat". Hypothetical, so it isn't from the game. Evil Yanks talk 09:25, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
- I hate to say that changing brightness on a monitor won't work like that. Even if a monitor is set to having reds look like blacks, if a screenshot is taken, it would still look red on any normally-set screen. Chiafriend12Loon is best buttlord 05:28, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
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