The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. The result was merge.23:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Fletching guild

This article does not describe a real piece of ingame content. It is not a real guild and is no longer even popular. There are hundreds of places on other worlds such as Seers' Village or pretty much any bank that are full of people standing around and fletching - this one is no more notable or significant. It is also listed and described as if it were actually a real guild, which it isn't. Dtm142 21:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete This thing never even existed.--Derilith 21:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - It doesn't officially exist. Especially should be deleted if its been going downhill since the GE was added. And, you never know, Jagex might actually add a Fletching Guild in the future (though I doubt it for some reason...). Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 22:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - even the very first draft of the article said this "guild" has diminished significantly. If it wasn't worth documenting at its peak, it certainly isn't worth documenting now. Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 01:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - as the picture shows, Yanille bank definately is a center of fletching. This article should be deleted and a note added on the Yanille page, on the section about banks. Excalo 23:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - This is a very important place for many people. Liferunebufar(talk)Death rune 01:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep -- Very strongly keep this in the wiki! While I would have to agree that no formal place that had a building and dedicated NPCs similar to the other skill "guilds" existed for fletching, this distinction of a place for fletching does have precedence on other fan websites and discussions on the Runescape Official Forums. This is an important part of Runescape history that needs to be preserved! In addition, if the guild were ever to be "officially" created by Jagex, this historical information is all that more important in terms of how the former "Fletching Guild" worked and how it would work under a Jagex-designed type of building. --Robert Horning 02:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

delete It is really no different than a clan of fletchers. And clan pages are not allowed. Keeping it opens the door for arguments in favor of clan pages.--Degenret01 03:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete. This was one of those player-made ideas, by some random guy out there. It sort of doesn't follow RS:PLAYERS. Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage 12:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep Two days ago I visited it on a moderately populated time of day. At least 10 fletchers were there--in comparison, the warriors' guild generally has no more than 10 people in it at any time, and unlike the fletching guild, this guild has rewards for the players using it. If a friendly, community-created guild has a similar amount of activity to a rewarding in-game guild, it clearly is notable, and has more meaning to dedicated fletchers than warriors that are grinding for a +5 strength bonus. Rollback crownearth(t)

Comment-Ten? Wow, when I got 99 fletching the day before the trade updates there was at least 100 people in there easily, many people achieved 99 flecthing or went there to alch, it's truely a shame to see what was once a bustling metropolis of players killed by those trade updates... 15:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment - Ten at peak time? Are you kidding me? Ten people at peak time is not nearly notable enough for an encyclopedia article. World 2, the player made members' trading world has no less than 1900 people on it as long as the world is online! And I don't think that world 2 deserves its own article either. We don't have an article about the actual building or the world, both being more notable than this "guild" in that they actually represent ingame content. I also find it strange that you consider fletchers to be "dedicated" while you find warriors to be "grinding for a +5 strength bonus". That is somewhat ironic and inconsistent... The Warriors' Guild is actually part of the game, the Fletching Guild is not. Dtm142 19:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment-This is exactly why i would have never suggested keeping it as is. In times past you would've seen a different reality, and the only people that can properly document it were the people that were there then.
  1. REDIRECT user:kytti khat/sig 20:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge While I don't think this deserves its own article, I think it should definately have a decent section in the Yanille article. We note that the blast furnace is popular on world 58, and while this isn't official, it ought to be kept in one way or another. Morian Smith 15:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - I think it should be merged into the Yanille article aswell. It seems like it was quite popular and the info should be kept. But personally I have never heard of it till now. Chicken7 >talk 15:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep/Merge - It is definately worth mentioning. Before the Grand Exchange, if you were to go to the Eastern Falador bank, in all but one of the 100-and-however-many worlds, it would usually have 0 to 10 people. In World 2, however, there would be hundreds of people there.

If you go to the Yanille bank in mosts worlds, there will only be a small group of people in the bank. In World 132, there will be a big crowd of people - doing what? - fletching and/or alching their fletchings. If it doesn't get it's own page, it still deserves a mentioning in either the Fletching, bank and/or Yanille article(s). Dragon helmChiafriend12Granite body (old)I have 12 friends. 00:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep / Rewrite - I do know that the GE and trade limitations had a significant impact on this unofficial "guild", however the fact remains that it was a very active part of RuneScape and as such should be kept for historical reasons alone. As such it should be rewritten to clearly show that it is not an official guild (no more than the Rogues' Den or the Monastery are official guilds).

  1. REDIRECT user:kytti khat/sig 07:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment - The Monastery actually has been given official guild status by Jagex per their inclusion of it [ here]. Dtm142 02:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Never existed Buzz (Talk#P ) 07:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - there are a lot of banks that have certain specialties, and they are mentioned in respective articles. Why does this deserve its own article? I can't see it being expanded--all it warrants is a one-sentence note on the fletching article. Someone just decided to call it the Fletching guild. Furthermore, it doesn't follow the standard trend of guilds, which is that they are world-agnostic. Its inclusion on the guilds template will inevitably confuse users, tricking all of them into briefly thinking that there was a fletching guild that they didn't know about. It is also poorly structured, consisting of a few poorly-worded sentences and a huge ugly graphic. Endasil (Talk) @  21:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Not a real guild. Swordmagic24 21:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge per Morian Smith. It is a real guild, but one made by players, and never acknowledged by Jagex. It is important enough to be included in the Guilds or Yanille article, but not in its own. User:C Teng/sig 19:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletemisleading and confusing to players who aren't in-the-know. This came up in a help channel just last week, causing confusion and an argument. IMHO, this 'fletching guild' was an informal meeting place for players with similar interests (similar to world 2 marketplace in pre-ge days). Jagex pre-empted the use of guild for specific areas that have formal level requirements before a player can use the facility.Peacefulsage 00:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Confusing and not needed. So what if alot of people like to fletch, alch and talk there? The same thing happens in Varrock Square. FiremakingZeus 1131FiremakingContribs 03:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - per nom (Dtm142). This page is more suitable for the Fanon wiki Dragon chainbodyEmosworldSysop crown 10:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - per everyone else who voted to delete this article. Prayer-icon Sir Lenehan File:Smite old.png|25px 01:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - It's a player-made guild, so it shouldn't be listed alongside the Warrior's Guild. Put a mention in the Yanille page, if we really wanna keep this... Sir Revan125 21:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC) 5:41 ,14 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - Being a player made guild that was effectively killed by the trade updates it should not get it's own article, however it was still a very important place to any serious fletcher and is indeed a part of runescape's history and an important part of mine. I'd hate to see this deleted without there being a mention of it in the fletching, yanille, or guild articles. 15:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - As per Azaz129, this was a significant part of the Fletching community, and should be merged with Yanille. Magic potion (4)CFLM Talk # Sign 16:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - The people who are saying this isn't noteworthy enough FOR A SERIOUS BUSINESS ENCYCLOPEDIA make me lol. The Runescape Wiki is a fan site and should include points that are about the community (and it does have many articles about things that are only important to the community) as well as the game mechanics. I dunno if it deserves it's own article as the "fletching guild", but it should at least be merged into Fletching or Yanille as stated by others. Uselessinformation 01:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - Delete the article as it is not an actual piece of game content. However it can be noted in the Fletching article. --Whiplash 20:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep - This is an interesting article and it was part of RuneScape's history. Every article ehre that is obsolete was at one point part of the game. I am Nalyd Renrut and I approve this article. -Nalyd renrut, time unknown, 21 july 2008

Comment - I believe you've just contradicted yourself. You want to keep the article because every obsolete article was 'at one point part of the game. The fletching guild was never part of the game, ever. You should also sign your comments properly either by pressing the signature button (looks like this: button_sig.png) or by typing four tidles ~~~~ (hold shift then press

the button to the left of the 1 key). Dtm142 00:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Yanille - It's a player phemonenon kind of like Air Running. It's not an official skill, task or location but it does document player behaviour in the game so I think it deserves some sort of recognition. Pointy 14:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - If it's a player made guild, then it is personal. If this is allowed, where do we draw the line at personal stuff? Is it just a matter of the number of people? I wouldn't agree that it is like air running, since you don't actually need other people to do fletching, it's just more of a club. Hurston 11:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Yanille - I'm with Pointy on this one one. Steelhorse66 17:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Yanille - I believe that in game groupings that are like this should be noted in the details for a area. Mementh 02:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Yanille - As stated by the nominator: This article does not describe a real piece of ingame content. There are several pages on the wiki that do not describe real pieces of in-game content, rather backstory of either area's, characters, or previous events. None of this information is either found in game nor pertains to any recent events in game, yet is part of the game's history. The majority of it is uploaded by Morian Smith. Secondly, I feel that if the articles under the Riot page are allowed, which are nothing more than a large group of players gathering together for a similar cause, then this article should be more than welcome to stay. It is a piece of RuneScape history created by players, and even if the popularity has died down, an unofficial guild that was once popular doesn't deserve to be gone forever. Karlis (talk) (contribs)

16:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)I always forget the sig

Merge - Player-created guilds shouldn't have their own pages any more than a clan should; however, it seems reasonable to include a note about this on the page for Yanille, or fletching. troacctid 22:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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