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Delete page, and add a redirect to Cosmology when searching "Realm" or "Realms", due to the information provided there encompassing everything on this page. "Realm", "Dimension", and "Plane" " do not have currently defined terms in-game. Category:Realms also exists for those who wish to see each abyssal bubble. Currently the page serves no purpose.

Delete - As nominator. Elf of Seren (talk) 16:01, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Comment - is the term "cosmology" used anywhere in game? Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 06:41, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Cosmology does not seem like a term that actually comes from the game, while realms does (correct me if I'm wrong). Based on this realms would seem to be a better page name, and I'd argue that cosmology should be the page to be deleted. Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 22:08, August 22, 2018 (UTC)
Have you even checked each page and looked at their content, references, and Talk pages? Elf of Seren (talk) 23:59, August 22, 2018 (UTC)
MergeI have and I still am none the wiser about where Cosmology as a term came from, although perhaps that's because the original was apparently unsourced. However, I find the page to be better than realms while essentially tackling the same topic. I would therefore suggest merging the content into Cosmology, deleting Realms and then finding a better name for Cosmology (perhaps Multiverse?). I also have no idea where the image at the top of Cosmology came from - is it official? User:Cqm/Signature
Merging is essentially what I suggested, and I've been considering merging Multiverse as well, but wanted to see how this did first. The image is official, from RuneFest 2017. The video is hidden on YouTube for some unknown reason, according to Mod Raven https://discordapp.com/channels/303835144073248770/474586781803741184/482161201363812357 . There are some references to its content, however: https://old.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/72v3ex/tldw_350_the_lore_marathon/ Elf of Seren (talk) 12:29, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
None of the sources on the page mention the term "Cosmology". On the talk page of Cosmology there is a link to a TLDW of a RuneFest 2017 lore talk which had section titled "Cosmology of RuneScape". I asked because I thought you might know of a better source for the term than this; but if this is solely where the use has come from then I don't think that it's an acceptable thing to base the page name on.
Realms does not have sources, but the sources of the cosmology page mention the term realm/plane being used in game. As I said this would be the better page name and I think that the good content from Cosmology should be incorporated to the Realms page (i.e. remove the information about what cosmology is as it doesn't appear to be a concept in game) so that that page can be deleted. Looks like clean up is needed to fix some potential inaccuracies/add more sources based off the latest talk page. The lore talk is available on YouTube by the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3W3IeiJL0&list=PLMjuVhi1Lg6cEXxeMZ3vgcdBqhR6UW1By&index=7 around 35:45. Multiverse existing as a separate page is fine as well, it is an in-game term and there's sufficient information on it to merit a dedicated page. Obviously the pages should explain how these things are linked. Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 14:08, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
Cosmology deals with realms, planes, dimensions, the multiverse, the void, the abyss, the periphery runecrafting and divine energies, and the structure of the universe. Plugging it all into the realms page vastly deconstructs everything that it has, and would require the creation of several new pages to hold all of the information. Instead of creating three or more new pages, I'm suggesting merging two or three into one, with redirects, for clarity and ease of access. Le me reiterate a final time. Your solution of merging all of it into Realms would result in new pages having to be created. Either we merge realms into cosmology, or we leave them as is, and I rewrite the entire realms page. Thank you for the lore link. Elf of Seren (talk) 15:11, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

Oppose - I've checked the sources, and the only places where cosmology is actually used is either unverifiable second hand sources or fanmade terminology. Realms, dimensions and planes, on the other hand, are all used ingame Template:Signatures/Ciphrius Kane 12:05, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

Source is from RuneFest 2017 Lore Marathon. It is hidden on YouTube for some reason, according to Mod Raven https://discordapp.com/channels/303835144073248770/474586781803741184/482161201363812357. There are some remnants of it on reddit, however. https://old.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/72v3ex/tldw_350_the_lore_marathon/ None of the terminology on the page is currently fanmade. Elf of Seren (talk) 12:24, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
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