The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. The result was keep.

Slang dictionary

See Forum:Slang dictionary cleanup, Forum:Slang dictionary, and RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Slang Dictionary (Clean) for the previous discussions. --LiquidTalk 07:17, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Please, someone tell me why we need this. It is completely not RS:NPOV, as some people don't use slang and it's just all messy. As the page even says:

It is incomplete, and never will be complete because of RuneScape's constantly changing vocabulary and community

Does this sound NPOV to you?

Does this page even have to do with anything about RuneScape? I think not.

Also, who cares?

As Sparkles would say, Discusssssss

Delete - Haidro (talk) 07:10, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Strong keep. The slang dictionary is a very factual article dealing with a constantly changing topic, much like every other page on the wiki has evolved along with updates to RuneScape. It is an attempt at documenting what is used in RuneScape as slang, not an attempt to introduce terms. I do not see how the article does not have a neutral point of view. It is also very helpful to new players seeking the meaning of those confusing words the high-level players use.  a proofreader ▸  07:15, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep its useful for new players to to look up rs related slang, therefore see no reson to delete. That said, i think That everything that is not strictly related to rs such as "lag" or "L2________" should be removed.King Roald chathead King TALKWer den König nicht ehrt, ist nicht Lebenswert. 07:19, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

All of the stuff more suited to Urban Dictionary was removed per Forum:Slang dictionary cleanup. --LiquidTalk 07:20, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep - I believe we've already cleaned it up to remove the generic slang found everywhere else on the internets. The RuneScape-related slang is still useful to players, as RuneScape has a massive vocabulary (mostly abbreviations), and having a central, incomplete depository of terms can't hurt. 222 talk 07:23, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose - I can't see how this is non-NPOV. Not everyone uses slang in real life, but that doesn't make it messy? Some people who don't know what things mean would care. Does it have anything to do with RuneScape? It's about how some people can speak in the game. So I don't see any valid reason you have provided to delete it. Hunter cape (t) Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask 07:49, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep Slang Dictionary - I myself have used the Slang Dictionary a number of times, especially when i came back to play this time around after about a year and a half long hiatus. I would suggest that the Slang Dictionary is a useful tool for players and is therefore worth keeping. I think that a complete depository of all Runescape slang is a bit idealistic, the use of slang is a dynamic area of language and the Slang Dictionary reflects this. Raglough 07:59, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Strong keep - The slang dictionary is invaluable: players use a large number of acronyms, abbreviations, and various other shortenings of terms, and frankly, few can keep up with all these terms they use. I've met dozens of players who weren't even aware of what the commonly used "F2P" and "P2P" acronyms mean (and I wince every time someone uses them in a wiki article). If used in RuneScape, "P2P" is generally always referring to players holding membership, but outside of the game, can also commonly stand for "peer to peer", which has a vastly different meaning. Not to mention fairly few new players actually understand terms like "cls", "zs", "gwd", or "vwb", even though I hear them often passed around by players. Sure, the slang is unofficial, but it helps players drastically. I also fail to see any issues with the point of view. Hofmic Talk 01:53, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep - I fail to see how this is NPOV. It does not promote the use of one method over another. Also, the fact that it is incomplete and never will be does not mean it is not NPOV. Besides, what benefit would we obtain from removing it? As people have pointed out, slang is used, and while the list isn't complete it is by no means useless. Such as assist. It means to aid somebody, but in RuneScape it also means to use the assist system. Or CA, in global terms it refers to California but in RuneScape it refers to the Chaos Altar. That would be useful for pkers, and it shows up in the slang dictionary if searched for as it doesn't redirect to Chaos altar Template:Signatures/Ciphrius Kane 02:05, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

VERY STRONG KEEP - When I just started playing RS again after 2 months of inactivity, Free Trade was back and a lot more slang was made. I didn't know what L2 meant until I looked in there. I didn't know what tbh meant until I looked in there. I didn't even know what 1337 is until I looked in there and it linked me to the main article. and, I know I'm noob but, I didn't know what claws were until I looked in there. I just found out what a bcp was until a week ago. What if someone quit and just came back and didn't know any slang? They'll just have to look like a noob and ask someone and, what about the new players? the new players won't know ANY slang like L2 since that is not used out of RS. --Cake detailCaek iz ossumChocolate cake detail talk om nom 02:34, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT - And to your "as some people don't use slang and it's just all messy." It's supposed to be messy because, its slang and, 80% of people I talk to everyday use slang. Cake detailCaek iz ossumChocolate cake detail talk om nom 02:39, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Edit, yet again - I have collected results. 90% of people I saw use slang. One person was saying "Selling acp" and I didn't know what that was and again, I looked it up. I have a list of people:

907akwarrior - admitted
Goblebobble - selling something using slang
Obor Rvg - ^
ImBearGrills - ^
Hellscream6 - ^
Chaos Breed - ^
Xenfis - admitted he does not
GypC - selling something using slang
Ben Dingover - ^

Cake detailCaek iz ossumChocolate cake detail talk om nom 03:02, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep dat page - It is useful to have a slang dictionary, you don't hear Urbandictionary complaining because it can't and will never be complete.Tthe wiki itself can and never will be complete as long as JaGex keeps running the game so why even try to argue that as a point? Might as well delete the wiki. Although the page needs love, a lot of it. I had to write my own dictionary for Dungeoneering slang so that wikians could understand my DG Shorthand because this page lacked most if not all the current crucial slang. Floppyc5 03:20, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Super strong keep - This is the only way I learned RS slang, keep it for others to use too. And that isn't the only page that is RS:NPOV since it seems like a big reason you want it deleted, even though I think that is false. Wink Hair 03:32, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delete - I just wanted to be different.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Antinewb (talk).

Extremely Strong keep Anyone wanting to remove something like this and saying "What does it have to do with Runescape?" is not using the substance in their cranium henceforth known as a brain. SOME people may not use slang as SOME people don't know what it means and most likely confuses the individual and therefore to avoid head combustion avoid it all together. This is needed as it's vital to the community of Runescape. People who wish to type out "Rune ChestPlate" in it's full have issues they need to work out. Saying this page is not needed is like saying using abbreviations in text messages aren't needed. Why do we use abbreviations? to save texting space, and time. Enough said. Kthx.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk). 02:46, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Closed - X mark The overwhelming consensus is to keep the slang dictionary... User:Urbancowgurl777/Signature 03:13, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

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