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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. The result was Remove template, just use category.

:Template:Needs detailed item image/Template:Needs chathead

This template takes up a lot of space on 3500 item pages, and don't think it's actually calling anyone to action to take new DIIs. I would be okay keeping it either as a category or just a list in someone's userspace, but a huge "this page is bad" template at the top of the article for a nonessential improvement is overkill.

Probably do the same for Template:Needs chathead -- it looks like it's mostly used for either head slot items, or spuriously for NPCs.

Delete - As nominator. Riblet15 05:26, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Delete - I've disliked the template since its creation; DII's are nice to have, but it shouldn't be absolutely mandatory to have one added to an item page. -- Spined helm SpineTalkBook of knowledge 05:27, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Delete --Iiii I I I 06:03, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep - I am using both for taking images. Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 06:30, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Can't you keep a list in your userspace (or use a category)? I don't see how you using it justifies putting it at the top of all those pages. Riblet15 06:51, February 17, 2018 (UTC)
We could remove the messagebox and have the templates just add a category/hidden category? --Iiii I I I 08:54, February 17, 2018 (UTC)
Having it as just a category works for me :) Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 12:17, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Keep - and do what 7i suggests. --User:Saftzie/Signature 21:12, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep - but like Iiii said, a hidden category would be best as those messageboxes make the pages look terrible and don't actually call someone to take actions. Maximus Gugu of ArmadylQuick chat button: Your Friendly Neighborhood Artist. 21:40, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep - but only if made hidden as suggested above, if not made hidden then delete. Pernix cowl detail MAGE-KIL-R Zaros symbol 22:09, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep - but hide indeed, which can be done very easily. Hiding it makes sense since it's basically a maintance category, readers don't have to be bothered with it tbh. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 00:17, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Change into category, delete the template - Are the recent keepers actually suggesting specifically keeping the template, or replacing it with a category? Keeping around a template to hide its content but include the category doesn't really make any sense -- the template is already at the top of all these pages, and either way would be moved to the bottom in a maintenance job. We don't have any other templates whose sole purpose is to include a category. ʞooɔ 00:20, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, just replace the template on the pages with the category that's currently transcluded onto those pages by the template. Editors who add the image will need to make sure to remove the category as well. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 01:01, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Delete the visual template but keep the category - Would need to be monitored more when new dii's are added as a non-visible template would be easily forgettable. I would like the pages to be tracked via the infobox but that discussion led to the creation of this very template. User:Manhattan2/signature 00:29, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

They can't be tracked through the infobox since they are not part of the infobox which is indeed why these templates were created. Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) 01:01, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Change into category - A bit of an eyesore indeed, but useful to have the category. --User:KelseW/Signature 00:50, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Change into category - This is uglier than KelseW!! Category would still be useful. - Jr Mime (talk) [VSTF] 01:30, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Change into a category - I agree with the above-stated reasons to put it into a category. We would have to monitor it more closely but I believe that we could do that. User:Zafryna/Signature 19:41, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Closed - The templates will be removed and replaced with the categories they already put on the pages. User:TyA/sig 01:15, February 27, 2018 (UTC)


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