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Realms

Since there was previously no consensus regarding the matter, and the original discussion has already been closed, but we still have two articles regarding basically the same topic with one being significantly better formatted than the other, I decided to re-open the discussion to pitch in my opinion on the matter.

I would've reopened the discussion on the old page, since never in the past has there been two separate Request for Deletion pages for the same article, but since it is clearly stated that "Please do not modify [the archived debate]", this was the solution I came up with.

I would argue for the merging of the page Realms with Cosmology: after all, the latter is formatted better and has more up-to-date information than the latter. The article for Cosmology also goes to a greater detail on the lore of the universe than the article Realms does, and it would not require much effort to import all the information on Realms page to Cosmology.

The main argument for keeping the page "Realms" seemed to be based on semantics, on the account that the term "Cosmology" does not appear in the game (instead being coined by JMods during RuneFest) and therefore the article shouldn't be named. However, I would like to remind you that we already have the Wizardry page for the lore of magic, Lordship of the North Coast for the unnamed political entity in Northern Morytania and Eastern, Lunar, Northern, Southern and Western Sea for the hypothetical division of RuneScape's oceans, despite the fact that none of the article names are referred to anywhere in the game: in fact, all of them are inventions of the Wikia users.

Klenter's Pyramid was another example of an in-game object with no name being named by users of the Wiki in order to write about a location, only for the JMods to add the name to the game when Menaphos was introduced to the game: in fact, the namer of the article admitted that he should've used another name for the article, since the pyramid was not just for Klenter, but for all high priests.

So, if we do not want to look arbitrary and inconsistent in determining what articles can and cannot exist, and cause what is essentially headcanon by users of the olden days of the Wiki to be made canonical, we have three options: either A) make a policy which allows articles without in-game term like "Cosmology" or "Zarosian Empire" to exist, B) introduce a new template which adds a banner on top of the page, telling that the article's name is not "canonically confirmed" but the name is used to detail information of the topic we have available, or C) remove all the articles in the Wiki regarding topics with no canonical name.

Personally, I would prefer the option A), while B) is an acceptable compromise. Adopting policy C) actually causes a lot of problems: for example, if somebody would want to be an article about the Zarosian Empire, under the policy B) such article could not exist since the empire remains officially unnamed, despite the fact that there is a lot of information about the Zarosian Empire which has not been documented in the Wikia.

In fact, it seems to be a recurring theme on the Wiki that articles are only being made if we have an official name for the subject of the article, regardless of how much information we have about the subject. As mentioned before, it has resulted in a situation where subjects like Zarosian Empire or Bandos' race, which by all accounts should have their own articles, do not have an article because we have no canonical name for them, while there are pages for even the most obscure and insignificant things in the game, as long as they are named.

Merge - As nominator. AquaMage2459 (talk) 01:42, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

Comment - If you wish to discuss a change in policy, the Yew Grove is the place for that. https://i.imgur.com/xHR7zpA.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/6encXAo.png 01:46, September 22, 2018 (UTC)


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