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Trouble with #expr :(

I have this:

{{#expr:{{GEP|Plain pizza}}-({{GEP|Cheese}}+{{GEP|Pizza base}}+{{GEP|Tomato}})/143 round 0}}

It is supposed to get the price of a plain pizza (702) minus the prices of Cheese (204), Pizza base (276) and tomato (728) together, then divide that by 143 and remove all the digits after the decimal point. So can anyone see anything wrong with that code? Cause it returns 694 which is obviously incorrect.

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 11:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to say that just adding/minusing without dividing gives -506.

Is this better? You forgot two parenthesis.

{{#expr:({{GEP|Plain pizza}}-({{GEP|Cheese}}+{{GEP|Pizza base}}+{{GEP|Tomato}}))/143 round 0}}

-4 222 ^talk 11:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Are parenthesis these () ? Why would I need 2?

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 11:49, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Edit conflict They were missing here (bolded): {{#expr:({{GEP|Plain pizza}}-({{GEP|Cheese}}+{{GEP|Pizza base}}+{{GEP|Tomato}}))/143 round 0}} 222 ^talk 11:54, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

You need them because otherwise the arithmetic would work like this: Cheese+Pizza base+Tomato divided by 143 and then the plain pizza algorithm would be worked out last. i.e.

1. Cheese+Pizza base+Tomato
2. "The above" divided by 143
3. Then finally Plain pizza - "the above"

222 ^talk 11:54, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for getting that working. Now I can get back to writing my first GEMW calculator...

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 11:59, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)So what's wrong with this?

{{#expr:{{GEP|Plain pizza}}-({{GEP|Cheese}}+{{GEP|Pizza base}}+{{GEP|Tomato}})}}

{{Coins|Amount={{#expr:{{GEP|Meat pizza}}-({{GEP|Cheese}}+{{GEP|Pizza base}}+{{GEP|Tomato}}+{{GEP|Cooked beef}})}}}}

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 12:28, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Wut? What's happening to it? 222 ^talk 12:25, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Which gives

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 12:28, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I had the wrong code.

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 12:28, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why, but it appears

{{GEP|Cooked beef}}

is causing the expression error. 222 ^talk 12:33, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I realised. It's Cooked meat, not cooked beef you genius! See: −1,208222 ^talk 12:36, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

*facepalm*

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 12:46, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nubcake... 222 ^talk 06:31, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

If the price of the item is over 1000, you MUST do {{GEP|item|n}}. If you don't add the n, it will display the price with a comma, which will not work in expr parsers. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 03:10, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Now who's the nubcake, looking at Template:GEP, there is no unnamed parameter 2, and that "|n" does nothing!!! Nothing!!! Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 03:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, fail. 222 ^talk 05:11, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Notification of changes to RuneScape:Off-site/RuneHead

Is there a way a bot or something could leave me a message on my talk page any time RuneScape:Off-site/RuneHead is changed? That will allow me to keep up with updating the name changes as people post them.--Degenret01 12:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Can't you just follow the page? 222 ^talk 00:43, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I sure can. And it doesn't do me a bit of good since I look at followed pages once am month maybe. We may get a change once a week, or maybe once a month. I want a way to stay on top of it without wasting time.--Degenret01 20:07, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I get emails sent to me from Wikia whenever a followed page is edited. 222 ^talk 07:28, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

I check my email every 3-5 weeks. --Degenret01 07:42, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

... 222 ^talk 09:14, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Would a change of habit be easier than creating a bot script? 222 ^talk 08:31, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

You could try setting up a mail filter that forwards important emails to your mobile phone. I've done that for such things before. User:Kytti khat/sig 14:34, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Change of habit would be nigh impossible. How hard is a script?--Degenret01 08:39, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Do you actually use your watchlist? If not you can unfollow everything, follow just the RuneHead page (and a select few pages that you never check on your own) and then use Quarenon's watchlist notifier. It puts a message on the top of the page whenever a page on your watchlist is changed. Its not useful if you have dozens of pages on it, but if you only have a few important ones like I do, its really useful. You can find it listed here. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 08:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

That script is really useful. But the only down-side is that it leaves a message regardless if it's new or not. 222 ^talk 10:19, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

No, if you go to your watchlist and click the link of the changed page, the message will disappear. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 10:33, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, actually. I know it happens; every new page I go to will still display a message regardless of whether it is new or not. 222 ^talk 10:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I just did what I said and the message is gone... we seem to be at an impasse... *stares down 222* Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 11:02, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

It happened again! *Draws revolver...* 222 ^talk 11:07, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Your edit put it back, but now it's gone. My way works! *Takes out RPG...* Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 11:31, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

No, I can't see it now. *All your base belong to us* 222 ^talk 11:34, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Change on purge

Can anyone see why this doesn't work? It doesn't change when you purge\re-fresh.
1 2

<choose><option>1</option><option>3</option><option>5</option><option>7</option><option>9</option></choose> <choose><option>2</option><option>4</option><option>6</option><option>8</option><option>10</option></choose>

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 05:36, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

It does work! I don't know what the magic number of purges is but I spammed it 10 times! 222 ^talk 05:38, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh so it does. But the second one is lagging...?

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 05:40, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

OHHHHHH SO IT'S MEANT TO DO THAT!!!! Never mind...

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 05:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

^noobs these days... 222 ^talk 05:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Signature sorting

How big a deal is the sorting of signature pages in Category:Signatures? For example, the following pages are sorted as "Sig" rather than as their respective usernames.

User:C Teng/sig

User:Coaster4321/Sig

User:Ajraddatz/sig

User:Bryanqwert/sig

User:Ssswizmig/Sig

User:Dave Lopo/Sig

User:Wargodnavkri/Sig

User:Haloolah123/Sig

User:Kuma3/sig

I noticed the error in my own signature and updated Runescape:Signatures so other people don't make the same mistake. Then I noticed that other people had already made similar errors like the ones above. Then I noticed still other people seem to have made other errors. So, as I asked to begin, how big a deal is it? It could be a lot of bookkeeping work; plus it could be a bit intrusive. Suggestions? --User:Saftzie/Signature 14:26, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Just Not that big, categories are just nice for finding stuff, just go to the pages and replace {{SUBPAGENAME}} with {{BASEPAGENAME}}. Easy as that. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 00:53, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't carefully audited all 1000 or so. The ones above were a partial list. I did a few others, too, of what were easiest to find. Hopefully no one feels like toes got squashed. --User:Saftzie/Signature 01:31, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh crud... meant to say "Not that big", Idk where "just" came from . But fixing them is still nice. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 05:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I only picked the lowest-hanging fruit. I noticed you did some of the ones above. Interestingly, working from a snapshot of the category page, I noticed a few people fixed their own before I got to them, too. Anyway, I don't intend to touch any others. --User:Saftzie/Signature 12:14, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is this completed yet? 222 ^talk 03:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bot

If I wanted to make a fully-automated bot account, will I have to make a new AWB bot account? And what would it be called? 222 ^talk 06:24, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Uh... You would have to go though a YG discussion on the tasks that the bot would perform and when but I don't think you would need to make another account other than BrainBot. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 06:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, good to get the facts straight. Thanks, 222 ^talk 07:49, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple accounts + Req AWB bot flag

Hey there, I've been temporarly locked out of my main account, User:Matthew2602, and have been using my bot account, User:M2602Bot. Though it occured to me this morning, "Hey, don't we have a policy on having two accounts?". So do we? And am I allowed to use this account?

Also, my AWB recently got activated. If you want to edit rapidly with AWB, you have to get a second account, and request bot flag for it here. Now because I have nothin to do cause I got locked out of my main account, I thought I could work on stuff in AWB with my bot. I'd have to get it flagged. So my question is, can I request bot flag at RuneScape:AutoWikiBrowser/Requests while I'm in my bot account? M2602Bot 22:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

"locked out of my main account" Why? Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 22:57, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Contact Wikia and ask them to send a randomly generated password to the email address of your main account, assuming you can still access that.

1. REDIRECT User:C886553/sig 23:11, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I read 222's talk and saw, have you tried to connect using the regular log in and using your account name and facebook account's password? BTW I will never use facebook so I don't know how it works. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 23:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I have already contacted wikia. Though I can reset my password later today. Answer my question please. M2602Bot 23:14, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

If there is a policy saying you can have a AWB Account why would you not be able to use your AWB account? Saradomin^{Sign Me!} 23:18, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I meant like, using it outside of AWB. M2602Bot 23:20, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh about the questions, until you have been identified as User:Matthew2602's bot account you are treated as a normal user and since you have not been id'd as his/your/whatever bot account by Matthew2602 you can go about the day and edit like any other user who is <24 hours old. But if you vandalise, we will kill you . Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 23:22, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

DUDE MATTHEW2602 WOULD NEVER VANDALISE RSW on purpose. So is that a no then? M2602Bot 23:24, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ajr deleted this comment:It's a yes, you can just edit as if you were on User:Matthew2602. As for awb'ing, it would be best to wait until you can get on your main. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 23:26, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say keep the AWB account for AWB.

1. REDIRECT User:C886553/sig 23:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

You deleted my comment, you nub! Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 23:30, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yay for wikia glitches :D

1. REDIRECT User:C886553/sig 23:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh stupid wikia. Okay cool, thanks peeps. M2602Bot 23:32, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

To answer your question about "not allowing two accounts", see RS:SP. If multiple accounts are used to unfairly influence discussions, then it's a permban for both of them (well, at least that's what I would do). However, I think in your situation RS:UCS applies. Also note that on RS:RFAWB, I purposely added the note that one forfeits his rights to participate in discussions on the bot account to the agreement, though I don't think you've signed it yet. Otherwise, I'd say that multiple accounts are allowed only if they're used for purposes determined valid by consensus, namely bots and AWB. All other non-main accounts should be permblocked. --Liquid^Talk 23:43, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I haven't signed it yet cause they said above I should wait till I get my main back. M2602Bot 23:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

WAIT ARE YOU SAYING I SHOULD BE PERMBLOCKED? M2602Bot 23:47, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

“	However, I think in your situation RS:UCS applies.	”
	— Me, third sentence of previous paragraph.

Use common sense. --Liquid^Talk 23:50, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that, but what you were saying was confusing me; I thought you kept changing your opinion. M2602Bot 23:51, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wanted Categories - Languages

For some reason templates located here as well as any tranclusions of them, are showing up with non-existent categories named "Swedish Users", "Finnish Users", etc. I cannot find why they cause this to happen, and AWB just skips them. If someone could fix this, please do. Thanks, 222 ^talk 07:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, I found a use for them. 222 ^talk 06:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, no I haven't. I was confused with another project I'm working on. Can someone remove these categories? 222 ^talk 08:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

What page has these? And did you try purging it? Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 08:05, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

They can be found here, all categories listed except for blog posts (which still haven't been dealt with). Yes, I have, multiple times. 222 ^talk 08:07, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok... wikia's server need to clear their cache for pages... which will eventually happen, until then you have 2 choices:

1. Edit every page in the categories, just changing it a little bit (even removing a single space) just so the page different or edit and undo that edit, either which will remove the page from the category page.
2. Ignore it; waiting for them to clear the cache.

Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 08:21, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing you have made some changes, because I have seen the cache at least twice since I started working on it. 222 ^talk 08:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I edited a few pages but only a tiny bit to see if that was the problem and it was. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 08:39, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

AWB issues

Hey there, I'm trying to edit in AWB with my AWB account, User:M2602Bot. Though every time I hit the start button I get told I have new messages. I have purged the bot's talk and checked the page for new messages like 7 times, and it's still not letting my continue. Can anyone help?

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 06:39, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

There should be a place in settings to not have it stop you if you get messages...not sure about that, but I could of sworn I found it a while back. User:Haloolah123/Sig 06:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

You have to log in on the wiki as the bot, click the "new message" thing, then you are good to go (log out and log in as Matthew2602 if you want). Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 06:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think it was caused by that annoying IP who added those Shutdown thingys. yey! my "Bot overheated" template got used! 222 ^talk 06:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)(Second edit conflict) Oh ok, thanks! He hasn't posted shutdown things on mine...

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 06:50, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I have now! mwhahah 222 ^talk 07:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Namespace edit count

Is there a way for me to see how many edits I have made in a certain namespace?

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 06:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Special:EditCount/Matthew2602 222 ^talk 06:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes, thanks. OH YES! RIGHT NOW I HAVE ENOUGH FILE EDITS TO GET INTO THE NEW USERGROUP!

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 06:58, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

That excludes edits done in the Exchange and Update namespace and their talk, the almighty Q made this neat edit report thing here that does incluse those edits among other things. BTW, calm down . Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 07:02, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

No it doesn't, I have Exchange and Update namespace edits displayed. And yes, calm down Matt. 222 ^talk 07:04, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have update but I don't have exchange. And uhh....

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 07:07, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thats probably because you haven't edited the Exchange namespace. 222 ^talk 07:08, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I don't remember ever editing it.

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 07:15, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Issue with span tag

On my userpage I have the code:

:<span style="color:blue; font-size:150%;">I ALSO NOW EDIT WITH [[RS:AWB|<span style="color:blue; font-size:150%;">AWB</span>]]. I USE MY AWB ACCOUNT, [[User:M2602Bot|<span style="color:blue; font-size:150%;">M2602BOT</span>]]. DO YOU NEED A LONG, REPETITIVE TASK DONE ON THE WIKI? CONTACT ME ON MY TALK PAGE AND I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.</span>

which gives this:

I ALSO NOW EDIT WITH AWB. I USE MY AWB ACCOUNT, M2602BOT. DO YOU NEED A LONG, REPETITIVE TASK DONE ON THE WIKI? CONTACT ME ON MY TALK PAGE AND I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

I want all the text the same size, and it should be. But I can't figure out why the links are bigger than the rest of the text. All of the font-size values are the same. Can someone help?

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 6:17 pm, Today (UTC+10)

The way you have it set up, the links are 150% the size of the text they are surrounded with. Just remove font-size from the link span tags. The reason you have to add color with a separate tag is because the links are ordinarily a different color. You must override this with a separate span tag. Links are not given their own font size however, and therefore they will always be the same size as the text that surrounds them. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 6:21 pm, Today (UTC+10)

Ohhhhh. Thanks.

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 6:23 pm, Today (UTC+10)

Just a question about infoboxes

Very commonly on articles I see this:

{{some infobox

|name=some name
}}

You see the gap between the start of the template and the first parameter? Usually I remove it thinking it's excess space. Though it's becoming so common I'm starting to wonder "Does it actually have a purpose?"

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 03:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its probably there after being copy pasted, and it can be easier to edit with a gap. 222 ^talk 03:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's from RTE edits, there is a bug where it may add a gap at the beginning of the template, those do nothing but are excess space so feel free to remove them. Evil1888 ^{Talk A's L} 01:15, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.

1. REDIRECT User:-Matt/sig 04:52, September 29, 2010 (UTC)