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as a side note it should be realized that we have no evidence of Azzanadra being "evil" or a "villian" so to say, because No one truly knows wether Zaros was an evil god(as Zammy is) or if that is just how sara followers want him to be seen... take into account that it is not Azzanadra how attempts to kill you in Desert Treasure but its the zammorakians that try. Azzanadra is even so kind as to grant adventures some of the knowledge and power of his people, ancient magiks. Even if Azzanadra and Zaros are "evil" by our terms, in the only quest that adventurers encounter him in he is good, infact he is not a villain, but a victim... thus Azzanadra doesn't really belong in this catigory--

this statement was made by an ip address. It did not belong on the actual article. Me, The evil dude has pasted this statement onto the talk page. 20:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be announced that Zaros was the original god of evil and so Azzanadra is evil. However it is false to persume he is a villan as he has not done anything as a direct threat to good. While im at it Lucien should be removed from the Majharrat's nemesis list as no one knows which side he took during the rebellion. --Whiplash 19:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Jagex has not announced anywhere that Zaros is evil. However, in a postbag letter Azzanadra said that he's especially unfond of Lucien. Dtm142 20:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Communicating with Zaros


I watched a Desert Treasure quest guide to read the dialogs (has been two years ago), but what troubles me is that Azzanadra says: "My Lord? What has become of you? I cannot hear your voice in my mind anymore!" This would mean that although Zaros was defeated, he would still be able to communicate with his loyal Mahjarrat. Somehow they must have forgotten how to do this.


Moros Lantea
In The Temple at Senntisten it is shown that Azzanadra had a communication portal to Zaros. Phoenix316 01:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Article structure

The current structure of an intro then a timeline means that there is loads of duplicated information. I think they should be merged. Phoenix316 01:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

and i agree.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 97.114.136.40 (talk) on 18:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC).

Merge?

Does Dr. Nabanik really need his own article? He and Azzanadra are the same person, I say we merge the two articles. Mining cape The Last Pun Talk Aberrant Spectre Champion 23:19, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I support that. I added the merge template to the page. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk 02:01, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
Using your logic, Echned Zekin should be merged with Nezikchened, Dark Squall should be merged with Surok Magis, and Sumona should be merged with Amascut. --Armadyl symbol Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law 18:10, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
Well, they really should. They are the same people and there is no reason to have two articles on one person. Mining cape The Last Pun Talk Aberrant Spectre Champion 19:53, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
I see nothing wrong with that logic. They are the same NPC, even if their names do change. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk 02:32, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
Actually without even reading this I had suggested that both Nezikchened and Echen Zekin be merged, and it was deemed worthy of not even needing discussion as they are obviously the same NPC. [[File:Staff of armadyl.png]] Chaos knight Talk Skull (item) 09:30, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
The Wanderer and Amascut are the same article. If those are not separate pages, then Dr. Nabanik and Azzanadra certainly shouldn't be separate, either. As I said below, one of the first things that Dr. Nabanik does during The Temple at Senntisten is reveal his true identity. Bridger 16:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
Support Dr. Nabanik almost immediately reveals himself as Azzanadra to the player during their first conversation, and by the end of the quest, the NPC is referred to as Azzanadra even though he is still in the guise of Dr. Nabanik. This should be no problem. Bridger 17:14, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
But Nabanik also replies to two seperate letters in the postbag. Besides, what about RS:G? --Armadyl symbol Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law 19:01, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Support Seeing Dr. Nabanik and Azzanadra are the same, these articles should be merged. Make a topic of Azzanadra being Dr. Nabanik at Azzanadra's page and delete this one. --Quest point cape MrZaros357 Zaros symbol 10:46, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Support One character shouldn't really have two seperate pages, even if the character does appear differently at times. If this were merged into Azzanadra, though, the infobox and other information for Nabanik ought to be included in it, as there's still information here that ought to be brought over. I would support merging any two articles like this. I'm a huge supporter of RS:G, but that doesn't really fit this situation. Quest Morian Smith Saradomin crozier 23:59, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Support See Talk:Nezikchened for reason. [[File:Staff of armadyl.png]] Chaos knight Talk Skull (item) 09:30, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Support if I dressep up as a Mahjarrat, it's still me. And later, he will be named Azzanadra --Darth Stefan (Talk) 19:41, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comment/Oppose Alright, Echned Zekin/Nezikchened is a pretty minor character, so that wasn't the best example. But if you are going to Merge Nabanik and Azzanadra, you should also merge Dark Squall/Surok Magis and Sumona/Amascut. Besides, what about items like 2/3 cake? Should that be merged into Cake, since they are technically the same item in different proportions? --Armadyl symbol Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law 23:34, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
Dark Squall/Surok Magis and Sumona/Amascut should be merged, but 2/3 cake and 1/3 cake, etc, should not as they are two seperate items. They have two different icons, examines, GE prices, and they're simply two different items. Items don't really have anything to do with this situation, if they have a different name in game, they're seperate. But since Nabanik reveals himself to be Azzandra, AND later in the quest/after the quest, his character is renamed "Azzandra", they should for sure be merged. User:Lil diriz 77/Signatures 04:21, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Support Dr Nabanik is just as small a character as Echned Zekin, if not smaller. He is only referred to by that name for a few chat windows of conversation before he reveals that he is Azzandra. True, he did respond to a few letters, but we should go ahead and credit Azzandra with doing that. As for your suggestion of merging Sumona and Amascut if we want to use that logic, that would confuse players who just want her slayer assignments. Those two articles have different functions (one being for more of a utility purpose, and the other telling her involvement in the RuneScape plotline). To be honest, all of the articles being discussed could be merged, but some don't have to be. Wrathanet talk edits Guthix mjolnir 22:09, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Support - They are one and the same. Though, any information about Dr. Nabanik which seperates this Altar ego from Azzanadra should still be mentioned. Black cavalier Zenihdrol Tribal top (blue) 13:30, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Support - per all above Air rune Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune 22:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion (up to the "Merge?" heading) took place on the Dr Nabanik page, which per the community's decision has now been redirected to the Azzanadra article. I'm moving it here for future reference, should it be needed. Quest Morian Smith Saradomin crozier 03:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Image Request

I was wondering if someone would be able to nab a few high detail pics of Azzanadra (Dr. Nabanik) standing outside the Digsite Exam Center. He vanishes from this location after the quest so getting some pics has been troublesome for me. Leave me a message if you are interested!Lord Drakan 22:48, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Azzanadra's Power

I would just like to point out something Azzanadra said druing the Ritual of the Mahjarrat quest. When the Player tells him about Lucien, Azzanadra claims that he would be able to handle Lucien (wielding the Staff of Armadyl) without problem. Once the Player tells him about Lucien having the Stone of Jas however, Azzanadra says that he will revise his strategy. This is a pretty clear indication of how powerful Azzanadra is before the Ritual so if someone would like to add that, be my guest. Lord Drakan 02:43, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

18th ritual

Was he there too? . . . Yours, Void Knight banner Enquidou Talk Quest Icon Crest . . 09:08, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

he was there but he was only level 250 like many other mahjarrat (except lucien who was 750)

I believe he was actually 350, but I did the quest back thern too. Claire (talk) 00:42, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Appearance: Fate of the Gods

Azzanadra now uses the appearance from Children of Mah throughout Fate of the Gods. Examine text: "A devoutly Zarosian Mahjarrat." -- F-Lambda (talk)

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