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Max hp

Isn't his max hp 1250? "1000; 1500 in battle healing at first 1/4 health back to 1/2 health."

1000 for starters, at 250 he goes back to 500, thus 1000+250? 213.93.147.160 15:57, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I made the description clearer; changed to "1000; 1250 in battle, healing back 1/2 health (500) when first time at 3/4 (750)."--Runerune239 13:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Race

Are you sure he is a human? He could be an elf knowing the Soul Wars Island is west of Tirannwn. His hood could also be covering his elf ears if he is an elf. --Tealclock^talk07:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Well there's no way of knowing because I doubt that Jagex will tell us. ≈ Dbzken _{(Talk)(Contribs)(Edits)} ≈ 08:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Think he looks anything like Darth Malak from KOTOR? :p http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3377/malakwut.jpg

Or a Juggernaut. Or a bomb squad member.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.png^Gone. 21:55, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think he looks extremely similar to [from Final Fantasy 9] - Anon

I think your silly Darth Malak looks similar to Nomad, but not the other way around. Coelacanth0794 01:06, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Title?

Is Nomad his title or his name? If the former, props to Jagex for a Crysis reference. :D WWTDD? 21:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Generaly a Nomad is a person who wanders from place to place insted of having a permanent home. I have never seen or heard anybody with the name nomad, so I am guessing thats his title. --Tealclock^talk07:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The Game Guide addresses him as Nomad, instead of the Nomad. WWTDD? 14:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Still, knowing he has a camp, it is very likely that he is A nomad and that he wanders from place to place. Besides Nomad isent even a name. --Tealclock^talk04:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

"When you first arrive on the island, you will encounter Nomad and his imp familiar. Nomad will offer you a quick tour of the field of battle along with a brief explanation, or a book that explains the basics of fighting in the Soul Wars. " ThatOneGuy 06:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Nomad isn't a proper name for someone, however, a parent can probably name their child anything they want (Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin for example) I wouldn't know why they'd name him Nomad though. Axearmour1 06:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Nomad is his name. It may be wierd, but with RuneScape, that shouldn't be much surprise. Or maybe he's evil and renamed himself like that, similar to Darth Vader or Darth Tyranus. --

Captain Sciz

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23:48, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's likely his real name is not Nomad, but that he has hidden his real name and everyone refers to him as Nomad. In the unlikely case it is his actual name, remember that there is no such thing as 'not a real name'. I'm trying to recall them at the moment so I can't say which exactly, but I think there was a case of an NPC in RuneScape that was known as one 'false' name at one point and then had their true name revealed. As a final thought, it could very well be his title and just that no one knows his actual name, so they use his title as if it were his name. - DarkenedDan

Chaos Elemental Suitcase

According to the people figuring out the new Chaos Elemental Suitcase in the Postbag from the Hedge, Nomad is mentioned in one of the hints:

Lucien -> You've been waiting for Lucien's whereabouts, Nomad is too frightened. [Blue Note deciphered using shorthand writing]

Nomad is frightened of what? Is he a Mahjarrat too? Is this why he's gathering souls.. to become stronger?

QFC: 16-17-157-59341543

Should this be mentioned in the article? --Madmarkx 10:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm also rather interested in the fact that Nomad may be a Mahjarrat. In the suitcase, the sheet of paper titled HARDENS SOUTH is signed zzz. Zimberfizz's signature, anyone? During the Soul Wars Tutorial, the imp tells us that Nomad is obsessed with getting as many souls as he can into the Soul Obelisk (which he built himself!) Nomad may indeed be gathering souls in preparation for the upcoming ritual. Also, the graphical update he just received makes him look more mysterious... more Mahjarrat-like.  Tien  14:24, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

i agree- perhaps the first hints of wgs part 2? wgs 1 hints started coming out years before the quest came out.

Week of January 11

The update for this week involves Nomad. Perhaps we'll finally get to see whether he is a Mahjarrat or not...  Tien  17:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Twitter hints ftw :P Frede^Talk 17:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait! Well I can, but still. Mattrius ^Talk 18:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm you 1 think, it is that you must fight him and he is lv 699 need to continue to know if he is a mahjarrat --I3igi3ob 18:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't beaten Nomad yet, but his rationale for his actions is that he went rogue from his 'Master' and needs to harness the souls gathered from Soul Wars in order to prepare for the day when his Master comes himself, instead of sending assassins and emmisaries. That offers no proof either way for Nomad being a Mahjarrat, but it does continue the implication. Cheers, Penderwyll 20:03, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I Honestly thing he's the majharrat Sliske After all he has extreme powers of souls which might be semi referring to powers of shadows.

motive

what is his motive in Nomads Requiem? Toa vine 20:57, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nomad

Ok. I was thinking today about Nomad possibly being a Majharatt. A little bit of evidence:

-Even though he isn't mentioned in Zemouregal's notes, as Azzandra said: there could be many of us returning from different dimensions -Zemouregal didn't mension him, so he probably does not attend The Ritual, maybe the souls he collects could allow him to stay powerful (i.e. the soul obelisk is like the stone in the ritual) -"Sometimes he slips away and, when he comes back, his fingernails glow and he's got sparkles in his eyebrows, like he's been near summat magic." - Zimberfizz

--Compdude123 21:11, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Roflcopters. Him not being mentioned in Zemouregal's notes doesn't matter. It isn't hard to make up a name. 92.4.180.212 17:18, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Two years late, but what you just presented isn't evidence supporting him being a Majharratt; all it presents is evidence that shows he could possibly be one, which we already knew. Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 07:06, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Pikchures

Can we add a gallery to show his location and what he looked like before his update? http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af290/porp109/sig1.png Spam me w/ lolcats Is <insert name here> awesome? I don't know, let me check... 00:46, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Highest maximum hit

As Jad had the highest max hit in game for many years wouldn't it be trivia worthy that with the Nomad's Requiem update Jad was dethroned since Nomad can hit up to 98, sure it's only on people with 99 HP but it still might be worth mentioning.  Archmage Elune  ^Talk_HS fetus is my son and I love him. 12:37, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, as Jad can hit 98 with his range attack and 75 with his magic attack, and thats just with even casual attacks not special attacks, Jad is still the most powerful monster.

Not a majharatt

Taken from the main page: "Elite dark warriors are in the service of Surok Magis, and by extension the Mahjarrat Lucien, so it would make sense for them to be 'assassins' sent to kill him, if indeed Nomad is Bilrach in disguise."

Lucien would not send assassins to kill a Majharatt, he would capture them and sacrifice him during the ritual. I think this is the true evidence Nomad is not a Majharatt but simply someone who used an artifact similar to the Stone of Jas to gain godlike powers.-- Ruderion ^(Talk) 17:16, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

If he isn't Mahjarrat, then he simply betrayed Surok Magis. Remember when he looked exactly like those Elite dark mages? Inhaps ^talk 17:22, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe Nomad used to be an Elite Dark Mage under the service of Lucien, but after he somehow discovered what he intended to do with the Stone of Jas and the Staff of Armadyl, he quit from his servitude and was gathering souls to use their power to make himself more powerful to destroy Lucien. Nomad mentioned something about a "master" of his, perhaps it's just Lucien just that he's so powerful he still deserves some respect from him. That would explain why all those Elite Dark assassins were sent to kill Nomad, so he couldn't stop their master Lucien. When Nomad dies, he says something about "You have doomed the fate of this world", meaning now he's been defeated he's probably so weak that now nothing can stop Lucien from taking over the world or something. However, maybe he thought that we were so weak we wouldn't understand his goals, or just to protect us from Lucien--Jampolo 22:51, January 12, 2010 (UTC).

Yes, but Lucien is partnered with his cousin Zemouregal, who said "Bilrach is of average power for our kind. He seems willing to go along with what I suggest, so he will be useful for now." Why would Zemouregal not do anything when his cousin sent black knights? And there is a chance that they aren't even Lucien's, as he isn't the only one who control them. Lord Daquarius. http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af290/porp109/sig1.png Spam me w/ lolcats Is <insert name here> awesome? I don't know, let me check... 00:15, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe Daquarius sent them. BUT Lucien is NOT partnered with Zemouregal....yet. He just sent an OFFER to forge an alliance with him. Zemouregal rejected the idea at first, but after Defender of Varrock he says he will consider it, he NEVER explicitly says he accepted the proposal. And, if I haven't mentioned it before, I don't think Nomad is a Mahjarrat. He isn't even of "average" power for a Mahjarrat, he's way too powerful to fit with that description.--Jampolo 01:12, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Mahjarrat are supposed to be powerful. He's the only possible Mahjarrat we've fought, so we don't know exactly how strong the Mahjarrat are. Even the weakest Mahjarrat might be pretty strong.  Tien  02:18, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Remember upon freeing Hazeel, he is "extremely weak" but is a combat level of 297 or such? Perhaps nomad is "of average power". Coelacanth0794 01:09, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

OK then, he's powerful enough to match a Mahjarrat's average power, but that doesn't mean he's a Mahjarrat. And think about it, the fact that he may have used to work for Lucien fits perfectly, and way more than being a Mahjarrat himself--Jampolo 03:27, January 13, 2010 (UTC).

I just found that one of the assassins sent to kill Nomad says "I'll give you a challenge, traitor!". I noticed he calls Nomad "traitor", making somewhat evident the fact that Nomad used to be one of them.--Jampolo 05:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Did u ever thinked on nomad beeing a creature fom other world? Like other dimension... and soul wars obelisk like a portal feeded by the souls that nomad colects. Maybe nomad is trying to open that portal so he can bring a powerfull lord or even a god so he wil save this world making Nomad like a guardian... that would explain the motive of collecting souls.92.250.83.205 19:36, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

'	This user follows Zaros.God of Mahjarrat and Ancient Magics.

92.250.83.205 19:36, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Heeyyyy, aren't we forgetting that there is another Mahragatt? Plus after ROTM Ali the Wise pretty much said that Bilrach is dead.Scarred Warrior 21:02, November 11, 2011 (UTC) 23:43, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

Not sure if worth mentioning but Nomand always reminds me of the Dr. Who monsters, the Sontaran, see pictures at [1]

--Uffa 64 22:49, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also, his throne reminds me of the core of the Tattered Spire in Fable 2. V0rtex64 15:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy

Added a strategy guide onto the page, of what i found to be the easiest way to fight him

TzTok-Gas ^talk 23:25, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Strategies

I think we need a strategies page, because the one on the article right now is very vague and for extremely high-levelled players only

Oh, and the ratio of brews:restores is 3:1, not 2:1

--Panama 1984 03:54, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's 2:1 as I was on about, 2 sips of a brew, and 1 of a super.

Muy 9th try when I finally won, I used 3.5 to 1--Degenret01 10:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Model Viewer Pic

I removed this: File:Nomadcache.jpg|frame|The nomad, as seen in the runescape cache. Under his scarf, appearing to have a beard and sharp teeth I am under the impression images from the cache are not permitted, as they break the runescape rules. Is this correct, or should it be added back in? Mikelid109 08:28, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I have put the speedy delete tag on it. It'll be deleted soon. Thanks. --Nup^(T) 08:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Original appearance

Nomad's look has radically altered since he was first introduced. We need to preserve a record of his original appearance. Someone has replaced it with the new look in BOTH the 2009 and 2010 infoboxes and elsewhere. Mamabear47 09:01, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? It's in the file history for File:Nomad.png. --Iiii I I I 00:10, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

I really hate the new Nomad, I liked the old one more though it didn't look like a quest monster. --

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Dwafcannon

Is a dwarfcannon able to hit him? Or will he destroy it like other boss monsters do?

When I tried setting up the cannon in there, it gave me some message about how the power of his throne interfered with it. Basicly, you can't set it up in there. V0rtex64 03:18, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ranged

Does Nomad actually use range? I beat him (105 combat, w00t), and I think he only used Magic and Melee. On another note, how certain are we that deflect magic doesn't do much? It seemed to work very well, but that may have just been sap magic.Long Live Armadyl 18:52, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

When I did the quests I checked all of his attacks, and I'm pretty sure he only uses magic and melee, so I changed it in the monster article. Brux ^Talk 17:36, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Strongest NPC?

The article says that he is the strongest NPC in game? Forgot about someone? Roflcopters? You don't fight Lucien. Someone else is also stronger than Lucien, if you count the fact that he's a god, whereas Lucien has god-like powers.

Think about this. Most people kill nomad by hiding (I did at 113) and thats how they succeed. To kill the only monster that surpasses it(not known if it does), the Corporeal Beast, you have no safe haven to eat or anything. so considering that, I believe if you were to melee or range Nomad without hiding, I'd say he's considerably tougher than the corp beast (considering his max hit, his different attack styles, and his berserk attack mode.) 19:45, July 29, 2010 (UTC)kuballer22

We don't know Lucien's combat level/HP *yet* Frede^Talk 17:33, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well considering Lucien can kill Turael, Ghommal and Cyrisus (all of which are lvl ~198) all 3 in 1 hit, has Stone of Jas and Armadyl Staff and Hazelmere's attack do nothing, i think it's pretty clear that Lucien is stronger regardless of his HP and Combat levels.

You're thinking about this from the standpoint of storyline, whereas we're thinking about it from available content. Lucien is not atackable, so he has an undefined strength. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 02:22, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

lucien is attackable during temple of ikov he is level 14 combat.

It's a monster....or is it?

Is the NPC the same as the monster? They look identical...Lord Captain Cecil Harvey 05:20, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they are the same, we just decided to split it into 2 pages, one for when he is a monster, and one for when he is a normal npc. PTVGYUM^rwojy 05:21, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

who Nomad might be.

I'm guessing Nomad is going to be the majharrat sliske and the hood is hiding is forked tongue.

First, jagex has confirmed that the mahjarrat series will not unite with the nomad series, thus, he cannot be sliske as sliske is confirmed to be in the mahjarrat one. Imo, he is just a powerfull human mage who became deformed from the soul energy. But this isn't the place to discuss this, so please no futher questions/comments that dont have to do with improving the article. You may post on my talk page if you wish to continue.

3rd age farcaster

01:17, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

what players might think about the nomad

I disagree I think he is mahjarrat bilrach because no human can have that kind of power exept the avatar which in this case our rs players. Since the nomad capture souls I think he use those souls to summon the dungeoneerin monsters. Or mabye he has a score to settle with lucien. Nomad might also need the souls for the ritual to destroy lucien. And I think the proof about why the nomad is a mahjarrat is that after nomad's requiem, the nomad regenerated himself after he was killed.

Except for that big fact that Bilrach is in Daemonheim right now. Furthermore, the souls he ate likely were the reason for his 'regeneration'. Amascut ^{Ia Morte} 01:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to be rude but come on now, this isn't possible at all if you have read about Bilrach. If on the small chance he was a mahjarret, he would probably be (I can't think of the name) the Mahjarret who is thought to be sealed away somewhere, but it is unlikely. And human's can be extremely powerful, I mean, the player is human and it is possible to defeat Nomad.....and since players aren't mahjarret, they are also as strong or stronger than Nomad.

JeffGC64 (talk) 05:56, September 1, 2012 (UTC)JeffGC64

Is something wrong with this page?

I don't know if it's something with my browser or just a loading problem, but something seems seriously wrong with this page. The table of contents appears to be doubled (quadrupled for trivia), and much of the 'meat' of the article seems to be missing, ie the capabilities and strategies part. 76.104.166.9 10:05, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

And on that note I just saw the Normal/In Combat button, so nevermind. Tad confusing though. 76.104.166.9 10:07, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

His former Employer? + Sequal??

Who was his former employer... the assassins look like Zammy/Black knight guys... but that doesn't mean the head of the Black knight's was his former boss.

Btw, did Jagex say anything about a sequal? . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 20:26, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Disturbed Album Cover?

I know this may sound a little silly, but Nomad reminds me of the cover of the album "The Sickness" by Disturbed. It looks a little like this: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHCBLgLYXqVBJH73rW8R9pz79EIBs6jhQxZOlqbwBIU7qGG0DB

Please tell me I'm not the only one .-. https://i.imgur.com/UpVFu.pngGroudy 21:19, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed ;) {{SUBST:#ifexist:{{subst:Signatures/Leon Art}}|[[User:Leon Art|Leon Art]] ([[User talk:Leon Art|talk]])}} (talk) 13:38, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Raiders of the Lost Art Source

Not good at sourcing on articles, but the three source needed parts at the top of the history section are found within this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCASvEM2OZg around the 27 min mark. Elf of Seren (talk) 14:05, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

{{CitePodcast}} or {{CiteGeneral}} would probably be best. The bit you added about summoning Zzz is wrong though, so I've corrected that. :) Fswe1 15:30, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

At 27:16, you can clearly see Nomad summoning Zimberfizz. If we were using the Origins of Gielinor Elder Gods images as canon until retconned, it is only fair that this new canon is accepted as well. If you wish, you can change it to "Summoned, captured, and bound", but it appears the intention is that he was summoned from the Infernal Dimension, as that is how they were able to later return to the Kal'ger warmasters.Elf of Seren (talk) 15:41, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah er, a RuneFest video from the art team really can't be considered a more reliable source than actual in-game dialogue and a postbag, which clearly establish Nomad did not summon Zimberfizz from the Infernal Dimensions, but simply caught him using a magic box. The video can just be taken as artistic license. Fswe1 18:14, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Except the art team didn't make the lore up, they obviously got it from somewhere. Postbag's get retconned all the time. I'm going to take Osborne's lore given to the Art team within a year to be more accurate than a postbag. Elf of Seren (talk) 18:17, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't the older source more reliable a priori? :P Anyway, we have two official sources agreeing with one another, and then one semi-official source claiming something else. Mod Osborne's a fine man but he makes mistakes sometimes (e.g. when he accidentally said Chaeldar is a Guardian of Guthix and people went haywire, believing it). Fswe1 18:49, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

An unrelated comment, but I'm glad they finally explained the War yak tusk, Famine yak tusk, Pestilence yak tusk, and Death yak tusks that appeared in Quick Chat the same month the Pack mammoth was released! Neutralino_Talk? 19:18, October 29, 2017 (UTC)